Making sure I buy a rootable fire tv - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to get the mantis fire tv to root. But while looking on Ebay I see 2 different boxes of the same 2nd generation fire tv is there a way for me to know which one is mantis before I actually open the box so I can buy the proper fire tv?

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Help please... New to Kindle, i want to install Android OS...

I just picked up a Kindle Fire HD 7" 2nd gen I believe. It shows 12.2GB in storage model number x43z60, I want to put Android OS on it. Ive never done this before, and i see ALOT of info on here about it. Basically, im sure there is already a thread that will tell me everything i need with download resources.... just asking, can someone direct me to a link, with everything i will need to do this without a Boot cable, and include a stable version of the Android OS, something in the 4.x series.
I dont care if its the stock rom, or a custom rom, prefer a debloated custom rom made to run great, without any bugs or so.... Im confused by everything going on, its alot to take in when your not up to date on whats been going on. Thanks everyone!
This is the kindle fire 2 forum so you should look for the right forum first so that you are sure to get the right info for your device. Read everything you can before you do anything so that you can minimize the risk
jamminjon82 said:
This is the kindle fire 2 forum so you should look for the right forum first so that you are sure to get the right info for your device. Read everything you can before you do anything so that you can minimize the risk
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Im sorry i thought this was the right forum, i dont know anything about Kindle i thought since it was 2nd gen then it was the kindle 2. ill look again.
robles4242 said:
Im sorry i thought this was the right forum, i dont know anything about Kindle i thought since it was 2nd gen then it was the kindle 2. ill look again.
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you see the version of the kindle by: Wipe down >More>Device> About >Version : ???
I have a Pull down notification bar> More>Device>About:
System Version : Current Version 7.5.1_user_51700200
Serial Number: D025 A0A0 2356 05LS
Wifi MAC address:
Bluetooth MAC address:
It has "MODEL No. X43Z60" written on the back in the bottom center under the Amazon logo.
I did research and believe its the Kindle Fire HD 7" 2nd Generation.
Is that correct?
I dont know Kindle's at ALL. This is my first tablet i only bought it because it was a good deal.
robles4242 said:
Im sorry i thought this was the right forum, i dont know anything about Kindle i thought since it was 2nd gen then it was the kindle 2. ill look again.
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Its not definitely a second gen, they names of the kindles can be very confusing which can be dangerous if your flashing stuff and dont know exactly what tablet you have!
The first and second gen kindle fires look exactly the same on the outside and nether are HD models, then there's the kindle fire HD, there's first and second gen of that and so on for each of the different models.
So you see, the first and second gen does not identity the different kindle models but the different incarnations of each model!
I have attached a chart on how to identity each model and generation, its all about the type of lock screen and the unlock tab you have (look closely at them some differences are subtle) and then what other features are on your tablet, ignore the actual images of kindles in the chart and follow the information, the images are wrong, for example it shows a kindle fire 1st gen as looking slightly different to the 2nd when in fact they are cosmetically identical but the 2nd gen kindle fire looks different to the kindle fire "HD" 1st gen!
Its super confusing at first but you will figure it out, just don't flash anything untill you are 100% sure as flash the wrong file and your kindle is a paperweight!
Another way to I'd your kindle is by connecting it via USB to your PC and running fastboot and seeing what its listed as under devices, the kindle fire 1st gen for example Is called an "otter" and the kindle fire 2nd gen is a "otter2"
Hope this helps a little.
Steve.
Thank you for the help. I also was able to find this:
Check the Serial Number
You can find this sixteen digit code in the box your Kindle came in or when you click on Settings and go to Device Info. Find your specific generation or type based on the first four characters.
Kindle 2: B002, B003
Kindle DX: B004, B005, B009
Kindle 4: B00E, B023, 9023
Kindle 5: B012
Kindle Keyboard: B006, B008, B00A
Kindle Paperwhite (2012): B024, B01B, B01C, B01D, B01F
Kindle Paperwhite (2013): B0D4 or 90D4
Kindle Touch: B00F, B010, B011
Kindle Fire (2011): D01E
Kindle Fire (2012): D026
Kindle Fire HD 7(2012): D025 and D059
Kindle Fire HD 7(2013): 00D3 and 00D2
Kindle Fire HD 8.9: B0C9, B0CA, B0CB, and B0CC
Kindle Fire HDX 7: D0FB, 00FB, 00FC, 0072, 00FD, 00FE, 0073, 006C, 006D, 006E
Kindle Fire HDX 8.9: 0018, 0057, 005E, 00F3, 0019, 0058, 007D, 007E, 007F
Note the Appearance and Size of Your Kindle
Inspect the keyboard and interface. Another helpful indicator would be the size of your Kindle. Here are a few key traits.
Kindle 2 & Kindle DX - While both look very similar and have a keyboard, the Kindle DX has a larger screen, 9.7” diagonally compared to the Kindle 2’s 6” display. The Kindle DX also supports simple PDF files.
Kindle 2 & Kindle Keyboard - Refer to the serial number by selecting Settings > Device Info. The Kindle 2’s first four digits will be B002 or B003. The Kindle Keyboard’s will be B006, B008, or B00A.
Kindle 4 & Kindle 5 - Both the Kindle 4 and Kindle 5 have a 5 way controller, as opposed to the keyboard of the earlier versions.
Kindle Paperwhite and Kindle Touch - While both don’t have the same 5 way controller that other Kindle models have, the Paperwhite’s defining feature is its built-in light that can be adjusted manually.
Kindle Fire & Kindle Fire HD - The Kindle Fire HD has a micro HDMI connection and its headphone and charging ports are located on the bottom of the device. The original Kindle Fire HD from 2012 also has a front-facing camera. The updated 2013 version of the Kindle Fire HD does not have a front-facing camera.
Kindle Fire (2011) & Kindle Fire (2012) - While they look the same on the outside, one main thing to look out for is the operating system that the Kindle runs on. The Kindle Fire 2011 runs on an Android 2.3-based operating system, while the 2012 version runs on a 4.0-based operating system.
Kindle Fire HD (2012) & Kindle Fire HDX (2013) - Released in 2013, the Kindle Fire HDX looks very similar to HD but it's smaller, 5" wide compared to the older HD's 5.4" width. The HDX 8.9, also released in 2013, differentiates itself from the HD 8.9 by having a rear-facing camera.
Mine is "D025" which that table tells me it is a "Kindle Fire HD 7(2012)".
So, what would that make it? 1st generation? Or would generations not apply to this or something?
I'm going to try to find the correct forum. I would still like to proceed with my Android OS conversion. - in your opinion, what's better? A rooted factory kindle, or the Kindle with a full Android OS?
robles4242 said:
"D025" which that table tells me it is a "Kindle Fire HD 7(2012)".
So, what would that make it? 1st generation? Or would generations not apply to this or something?
I'm going to try to find the correct forum. I would still like to proceed with my Android OS conversion. - in your opinion, what's better? A rooted factory kindle, or the Kindle with a full Android OS?
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Its probably a 1st gen but I would still use the chart I attached to compare other features like front and rear cameras ect, YOU CANNOT BE TOO CAREFULL!!!
Interesting how the info you posted talks about the kindle 2 having a keyboard, not sure what they mean there, the kindle fire 2 does not have a physical keyboard, just the onscreen one that all tablets have. Hmmmm.
I am so lost. Ill check your guide when i get home. Another one i followed by describing details with item specific pictures led me to what i thought the first time. I guess it was wrong too or i messed up somewhere along the lines. This is way too much for trouble just to even find out what exactly i own lol,
robles4242 said:
I am so lost. Ill check your guide when i get home. Another one i followed by describing details with item specific pictures led me to what i thought the first time. I guess it was wrong too or i messed up somewhere along the lines. This is way too much for trouble just to even find out what exactly i own lol,
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Lol, is a nightmare ain't it!
If yours is a kindle fire HD for definate at least your half way there to identifying the exact model!
If you have a camera on the device its not a kindle fire 1st or 2nd gen, the original kindle fire did not have one but it seems from the chart I posted that the kindle fire HD 1st gen has a front camera but the kfhd 2nd gen does not its sondam confusing its unreal!
I've actually got a kindle fire 2nd gen and a kindle fire "HD" 1st gen so I've taken a couple of really poor photos using my other tablet and hope it helps at least clear up what tablet its definitely not. In my pics the kindle fire "HD" 1st gen is on the left and the original kindle fire 2nd gen is on the right.
Im just about 100% sure it is a Kindle Fire HD 7" 2nd Gen.
You have one of these right? Front camera in center, Two ports on the bottom in the center, one is a micro USB and the other is a micro HDMI i think... 1/4 of the way on the back from the bottom there is a darker black strip with speaker slots on the ends and Kindle written on the right side in that darker strip.....
ill try to post a pic...
Can you help lead me to a way to get Android OS on it? I got a Fastboot cable for it..
I think i found out what it is. I think its a Kindle Fire HD 7" 2012 (2nd gen). Here are some pics...... IF that is it, can you help direct me to a tutorial on installing ANDROID OS on it?

[Q] Hardware update/refresh anytime soon?

I'm thinking about picking up another Fire TV box to put in the family room (to consolidate to a single device for Netflix, Amazon, watching local movie files, etc)
I realize that Amazon's goal with the Fire TV is not to make money on the hardware, but to drive people towards their content and services... but in the back of my mind I'm thinking, the Fire TV box hardware has been on the market for a while, and now they are looking at/working on Fire OS 5, so will Amazon update the hardware any time soon?
From the articles I've read on Fire OS 5, it appears the Dev Preview is for tablets only at this time. So its anyone guess how long it will be before its available for the Fire TV box or stick.
Have there been any hints on a new hardware revision of the Fire TV box?
If I don't desperately need a Fire TV box (my Bluray player does Netflix and local movies, and my TV does Amazon Prime and Youtube), is it worth waiting, or is it fine to get one now?

Are the Kindle fire 2 and the Kindle Fire (7"/Non-HD)?

Pretty straightforward.. I just bought the base level Kindle Fire from amazon for the Black Friday special, the newest model. It wasn't labeled with a Generation as far as I can tell.... Is this the same as what this forum refers to as "Kindle 2", for second gen. Here is the link for the model I bought: http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Display-...F8&qid=1449868242&sr=8-1&keywords=kindle+fire
I just want to make sure any modding I do matches to the right forum. Thanks!
I own a kindle fire 2, and I can tell you that one is newer, the second gen has no camera and it doesn't hace any button besides the power. Its serial number begins with D026.

Rbox in,,can firestick's bootloader be unlocked as 1st gen fire tv box?

Hi Rbox,
I'd like to ask if you think firestick's bootloader can be unlocked as 1st gen fire tv box?
If there is possibility, I like to donate to make this happen sooner.
I think many guys who are interested in also what to join.

How to identify newest Amazon devices before buying?

Hello everybody,
I probably have a stupid question, but how do I know which stick generation to buy from amazon now? Is it mantis or bueller? Is that Generation 2 or 3? I don't get it... Amazon doesn't list any informations about device names.
Thx in advance
koboltzz said:
Hello everybody,
I probably have a stupid question, but how do I know which stick generation to buy from amazon now? Is it mantis or bueller? Is that Generation 2 or 3? I don't get it... Amazon doesn't list any informations about device names.
Thx in advance
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Connect with adb, type adb shell and watch out for the name
Stick names from first gen to last, montoya, tank, mantis
First gen box is bueller, 4k second gen is sloane.
The 4k stick currently sold is mantis, the third gen.
the non 4k is the second gen tank
Sus_i said:
Connect with adb, type adb shell and watch out for the name
Stick names from first gen to last, montoya, tank, mantis
First gen box is bueller, 4k second gen is sloane.
The 4k stick currently sold is mantis, the third gen.
the non 4k is the second gen tank
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Thx for your answer
I know how to do that after I bought the device, I meant how to find out what the devices are named before buying them from Amazon.
At that moment Amazon lists a normal Fire TV Stick, a Fire TV Stick 4K and a Fire TV Cube. Mantis is which one?
koboltzz said:
Thx for your answer
I know how to do that after I bought the device, I meant how to find out what the devices are named before buying them from Amazon.
At that moment Amazon lists a normal Fire TV Stick, a Fire TV Stick 4K and a Fire TV Cube. Mantis is which one?
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As I said earlier, mantis is the third generation FireTVstick, i.e. the current 4k stick.
That 'normal' stick is the second gen stick, called 'tank', i.e. the current Fire TV Stick without 4k.
Sus_i said:
As I said earlier, mantis is the third generation FireTVstick, i.e. the current 4k stick.
That 'normal' stick is the second gen stick, called 'tank', i.e. the current Fire TV Stick without 4k.
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I thank you again, but you must forgive me. I didn't expect Amazon to offer different generations at the same time. With the fire tablets, only one generation is offered at the same time and next year, when the Fire 7 FullHD comes out, the old one disappears from the shop overnight. So I thought that there are two current fire sticks, a FullHD and a 4K variant and not that the first one would be the old one. There are still a lot of FullHD TVs out there.
koboltzz said:
So I thought that there are two current fire sticks, a FullHD and a 4K variant and not that the first one would be the old one. There are still a lot of FullHD TVs out there.
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Yeah, they sell different stick versions... as of today the second and third generation.
There are two second Gen Stick versions out (stick without 4k), one with and one without alexa (I think the one without alexa is called international version), but both are 'tank' devices.
If you wan't the newest stick, go for the 4k fireTVStick, called mantis.
Sus_i said:
Yeah, they sell different stick versions... as of today the second and third generation.
There are two second Gen Stick versions out (stick without 4k), one with and one without alexa (I think the one without alexa is called international version), but both are 'tank' devices.
If you wan't the newest stick, go for the 4k fireTVStick, called mantis.
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But per OP, no way to identify the model Amazon will actually ship you I assume.
ldeveraux said:
But per OP, no way to identify the model Amazon will actually ship you I assume.
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Nope Of course you can identify the Stick model, i.e. decide which variant you buy...
like I said, only the new stick is 4k capable (QFHD), you see this in the amz. offer and ofcourse that stick is a bit more expensive than the older FullHD variant.
For identify the older FullHD stick, the 'basic' or 'international' version is imho the variant without alexa... slightly cheaper than the normal FullHD fireStick with alexa (and a better remote).

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