I've been a longtime Huawei user, always very satisfied, and with my contract renewal coming up, I thought of getting a new Huawei phone. However, the big, fat notch that pretty much al P40 series and Mate 40 series phones have now really bothers me a lot, so I looked for alternatives.
I eventually came to the Mi 10T Pro, which has good hardware, and many good reviews, so I decided to pick it up instead.
My old Mate 20, which I had before, didn't have that many Google apps, and all except for 4 could be uninstalled. Those last 4 could be deactivated (including the main "Google" app), and they never bothered me again.
I expected the same from the Mi 10 T Pro... but it's WAY worse. The Mi 10 T Pro is literally DROWNING in a ludicrous amount of Google bloatware, and I ended up with 15 (!) Google apps, which can't be uninstalled!
What's even worse, none of those 15 apps can be deactivated! So they pretty much do whatever they want, keep downloading stuff, keep updating themselves behind my back - unless I turn off WiFi. I can only stop their mobile data usage/background data usage, not their WiFi usage.
A good amount even keeps constantly restarting, after I stop them, they always autostart (impossible to configure autostart for Google apps), all Google apps are exempt from battery saving with no way to change it, some are clawing back privileges after I revoked them... just plain awful.
I'm starting to feel regret that I didn't take a P40 or Mate 40, and just lived with that awful notch... but at least I would've had a great experience without Google bloatware. MIUI seems a bit strange as well...
What would be the best way to get rid of this Google plague?
Would it be possible to flash a China rom on my EU version Mi 10 T Pro? If so, can I just put it into the "downloaded_rom" folder, and update from there? Or must I go through the whole ordeal of having to unlock, then flashing TWRP, and flashing from fastboot, and whatnot?
Would it be possible (or advisable) to use the China dev rom? I read that one gets more frequent updates.
I would be very grateful for any help!
Momoko-hime said:
I've been a longtime Huawei user, always very satisfied, and with my contract renewal coming up, I thought of getting a new Huawei phone. However, the big, fat notch that pretty much al P40 series and Mate 40 series phones have now really bothers me a lot, so I looked for alternatives.
I eventually came to the Mi 10T Pro, which has good hardware, and many good reviews, so I decided to pick it up instead.
My old Mate 20, which I had before, didn't have that many Google apps, and all except for 4 could be uninstalled. Those last 4 could be deactivated (including the main "Google" app), and they never bothered me again.
I expected the same from the Mi 10 T Pro... but it's WAY worse. The Mi 10 T Pro is literally DROWNING in a ludicrous amount of Google bloatware, and I ended up with 15 (!) Google apps, which can't be uninstalled!
What's even worse, none of those 15 apps can be deactivated! So they pretty much do whatever they want, keep downloading stuff, keep updating themselves behind my back - unless I turn off WiFi. I can only stop their mobile data usage/background data usage, not their WiFi usage.
A good amount even keeps constantly restarting, after I stop them, they always autostart (impossible to configure autostart for Google apps), all Google apps are exempt from battery saving with no way to change it, some are clawing back privileges after I revoked them... just plain awful.
I'm starting to feel regret that I didn't take a P40 or Mate 40, and just lived with that awful notch... but at least I would've had a great experience without Google bloatware. MIUI seems a bit strange as well...
What would be the best way to get rid of this Google plague?
Would it be possible to flash a China rom on my EU version Mi 10 T Pro? If so, can I just put it into the "downloaded_rom" folder, and update from there? Or must I go through the whole ordeal of having to unlock, then flashing TWRP, and flashing from fastboot, and whatnot?
Would it be possible (or advisable) to use the China dev rom? I read that one gets more frequent updates.
I would be very grateful for any help!
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You must unlock the bootloader.
Choose a rom here
Use this method for the fastboot rom or twrp for the zip rom.
or
This program for debloatware.(without root).
NOSS8 said:
You must unlock the bootloader.
Choose a rom here
Use this method for the fastboot rom or twrp for the zip rom.
or
This program for debloatware.(without root).
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There's no China rom for Mi 10T Pro there... should I pick the Taiwan rom? But that one's not at 12.5 yet.
What about the China dev rom? Would it be possible to use as main rom, or is it too buggy?
Does this "debloatware" allow me to remove all the Google garbage? How does it work?
Momoko-hime said:
There's no China rom for Mi 10T Pro there... should I pick the Taiwan rom? But that one's not at 12.5 yet.
What about the China dev rom? Would it be possible to use as main rom, or is it too buggy?
Does this "debloatware" allow me to remove all the Google garbage? How does it work?
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K30 s ultra is the same except camera.(most recent rom)
i dont no about Taiwan
Indonesien rom is not interesting
For debloatware.
Just connect to the pc with usb debug active(Not all google/aaps/services)
Try you will be able to see the list of uninstallable or deactivable apps and services
Thanks again.
I looked around and found this guide on how to remove the excessive Google bloatware (and other bloatware) on Xiaomi:
Xiaomi Bloatware List | Remove Bloatware on MIUI 14/13/12
Find the list of safe-to-remove Xiaomi and MIUI bloatware. Learn how to uninstall system apps on MIUI 14, 13 & 12 via Xiaomi ADB/fastboot tools.
technastic.com
It doesn't require root, unlocking or anything else, so I think I'll try this first.
I'm sharing the link, in case this is interesting for others as well.
Momoko-hime said:
Thanks again.
I looked around and found this guide on how to remove the excessive Google bloatware (and other bloatware) on Xiaomi:
Xiaomi Bloatware List | Remove Bloatware on MIUI 14/13/12
Find the list of safe-to-remove Xiaomi and MIUI bloatware. Learn how to uninstall system apps on MIUI 14, 13 & 12 via Xiaomi ADB/fastboot tools.
technastic.com
It doesn't require root, unlocking or anything else, so I think I'll try this first.
I'm sharing the link, in case this is interesting for others as well.
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You haven't found anything new since it's the same program shown in my 1st post above.
NOSS8 said:
You haven't found anything new since it's the same program shown in my 1st post above.
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Yes, but just throwing me the program, without any guide or explanation, wasn't very helpful.
Also, saying something like, "try which apps you can remove, and if you remove the wrong apps and brick your phone, it's your fault" - that wasn't very helpful either.
The guide I posted shows how to remove the bloatware apps, and which are safe to remove, none of which was pointed out by you, and that's why I posted the link.
Momoko-hime said:
Yes, but just throwing me the program, without any guide or explanation, wasn't very helpful.
Also, saying something like, "try which apps you can remove, and if you remove the wrong apps and brick your phone, it's your fault" - that wasn't very helpful either.
The guide I posted shows how to remove the bloatware apps, and which are safe to remove, none of which was pointed out by you, and that's why I posted the link.
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Even with this tool, you will not have the result of a Chinese rom,especially the features.
(At worst by removing everything, nothing works but it does not destroy the phone.)
NOSS8 said:
Even with this tool, you will not have the result of a Chinese rom,especially the features.
(At worst by removing everything, nothing works but it does not destroy the phone.)
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Yes, I know, but Chinese 12.5 rom for Mi 10T Pro / K30s isn't out yet, so I have to wait for it, and might just as well try this debloating in the meantime.
The guide tells you which bloatware is safe to remove, so no worries there.
Momoko-hime said:
Yes, I know, but Chinese 12.5 rom for Mi 10T Pro / K30s isn't out yet, so I have to wait for it, and might just as well try this debloating in the meantime.
The guide tells you which bloatware is safe to remove, so no worries there.
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China MIUI 12.5 V12.5.1.0.RJDCNXM STABLE
Recovery and Fastboot.
or
This AOSP rom have a vanilla version.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/official-nusantaraproject-v3-0-11-06-2021-android-11.4250491/
NOSS8 said:
China MIUI 12.5 V12.5.1.0.RJDCNXM STABLE
Recovery and Fastboot.
or
This AOSP rom have a vanilla version.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/official-nusantaraproject-v3-0-11-06-2021-android-11.4250491/
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Oh, good. The download site you gave before didn't have 12.5 China rom.
Related
Ive just received my Mi Max from Top-One.
It is the S652, 3gb ram, 64gb storage
It has Miui 7.3.14.0.0
How do I update it to the latest stable MIUI version?
thank you
(when i use the in built updater it tells me that there are no updates available )
I think only the 32gb 650 has a global rom at the moment. I have the 652 4gb 128gb Max and am waiting for that global rom to come. Check on en.miui.com in the download section for the Max.
In the meantime, check if your ROM is legit. Actually, I'd unlock the bootloader and flash a new ROM to be sure.
Register a Mi account and apply for bootloader unlocking. Doesn't matter if you're outside of China and use a non Chinese number and state your reason in English. Takes a few days.
I bought a Mi5, Max, and Redmi Pro then made three new accounts and unlocked each one within 4 days.
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
Also tinker the app notifications. Enable notification light, lock screen notification, floating etc.
You might also want to "lock" apps in the memory so they won't reload or stop after you switch apps. To do that press the menu button and swipe down to.the app you want to be locked in memory. Then press the lock key.
kinghu said:
In the meantime, check if your ROM is legit.
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ramy911us said:
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
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How?
Vendor ROMs
Most Xiaomi devices that are bought through unofficial channels (grey market) come with this type of ROM. It has multiple languages and Google Play Store, but often also adware and bloatware, which are annoying and slow the phone down. This ROM is also buggy and unoptimised, so some things might not work (e.g. battery showing negative percentage or the rear LED not working at all), you might encounter issues and inconsistencies (e.g. freezing, lagging) and because of these attributes it is not safe to use. You can get rid of this ROM by flashing another ROM, usually via MiFlash. If your bootloader is locked, you can only flash official ROMs and only via EDL mode (see here).
Spotting a vendor ROM
It has system languages available other than Chinese and English
It has Google Play Store
Below Settings > About phone, MIUI version is fake (e.g. V7.00.99.00, V7.0.7.0.0 or 7.91.8.0) and the letter code afterwards has 'CN' or 'CL' in it
So what are the steps necessary to get this onto the latest stable official miui rom?
First thing you want to do is to get rid of the vendor ROM on your phone. En.miui.com has some tutorials on how to do it.
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
panyan said:
Ive just received my Mi Max from Top-One.
It is the S652, 3gb ram, 64gb storage
It has Miui 7.3.14.0.0
How do I update it to the latest stable MIUI version?
thank you
(when i use the in built updater it tells me that there are no updates available )
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don brian said:
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
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I think im going to wait until ajsmsg78 updates his excellent ROM with the OFFICIAL stable global ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
You can still install Google services apk's from legit sites like apk mirror if you want to stay on the China ROM. Or check out xiaomi.eu's ROM.
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
you can flash your mi max with bootloader locked
you need boot on EDL mode (vol+ and vol - and power) and flash fastboot rom with miflash beta
tuto here
fastboot rom miui 7.5 global official here /!\ FOR 64/128Gb ONLY
rcd1030 said:
you can flash your mi max with bootloader locked
you need boot on EDL mode (vol+ and vol - and power) and flash fastboot rom with miflash beta
tuto here
fastboot rom miui 7.5 global official here /!\ FOR 64/128Gb ONLY
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That sounds very similar to using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/guide-install-global-miui8-root-t3435594
And then I can flash this right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
panyan said:
That sounds very similar to using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/guide-install-global-miui8-root-t3435594
And then I can flash this right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
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Ah nice I did not see this tuto,
Yes you can flash twrp with miflash and then install this rom in twrp (don't forget wipe factory reset before)
rcd1030 said:
Ah nice I did not see this tuto,
Yes you can flash twrp with miflash and then install this rom in twrp (don't forget wipe factory reset before)
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what is the point of unlocking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
panyan said:
what is the point of unlocking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
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EDL mode (Emergency Download Mode) allows to bypass the locked bootloader, but xiaomi can disable this edl mode with a simple update (e.g. mi5 since MIUI 7.3.x.x )
with bootloader unlocked your phone is totally open
panyan said:
what is the point of locking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
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Corrected...
Honestly I think you have a greater shot at bricking your phone after flashing a custom rom if it's locked. Or flashing the wrong firmware from a different model. I didn't have to do a battery pull after I flashed the wrong firmware on my Helium when I first got it. It's probably because I was already unlocked. I don't know why anyone here wouldn't wanna unlock.
ajsmsg78 said:
Honestly I think you have a greater shot at bricking your phone after flashing a custom rom if it's locked. Or flashing the wrong firmware from a different model. I didn't have to do a battery pull after I flashed the wrong firmware on my Helium when I first got it. It's probably because I was already unlocked. I don't know why anyone here wouldn't wanna unlock.
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they don't wanna lose their warranty?
Just an update. Finally got rid of the vendor ROM after Xiaomi released the official global ROM for helium devices.
My Mi Max 'Pro' (it is now called Mi Max 'Prime') is now on official MIUI 8 Global ROM using the procedure in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...vendor-rom-t3471329/post69173471#post69173471
don brian said:
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
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Click to collapse
ramy911us said:
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
Also tinker the app notifications. Enable notification light, lock screen notification, floating etc.
You might also want to "lock" apps in the memory so they won't reload or stop after you switch apps. To do that press the menu button and swipe down to.the app you want to be locked in memory. Then press the lock key.
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Can you explain this more please
Apart from having to add gapps and some Chinese bloat, is there any other downside to sticking with the Chinese ROM?
What upsides are there if any?
Thanks.
Can anyone reply please? I've found one at an excellent price and want to snag it before it goes.
You can keep using the chinese one and have it fully functional, but some polish is missing and some aspects of MIUI will be chinese even with the language set to english. The biggest one I noticed is the theme and wallpaper store - it's always chinese, and even the same themes downloaded under the chinese theme store are different (I think the chinese store doesn't allow icon packs?). Searching for themes by their english name doesn't work on the chinese theme store either.
There's also a lot more china-specific settings and services that are just gone in the actual global ROM, the global ROM is much more barebones (uses less memory too) than the chinese ROM and not everything can simply be uninstalled in the chinese rom without root, just hidden. The global ROM basically just comes with google play services and common google apps, MIUI replacements for AOSP basic apps like calculator/calendar/weather/browser/music/etc and is as bland as possible to appeal to a larger audience.
Global rom is definitely a better experience, but you CAN use the chinese ROM just fine. I did for awhile until the global ROM came out, flashed it immediately because I wanted a cleaner OS with ~10 less random chinese apps sitting in the app drawer.
Just buy it and flash Global Rom on it
Elanzer said:
You can keep using the chinese one and have it fully functional, but some polish is missing and some aspects of MIUI will be chinese even with the language set to english. The biggest one I noticed is the theme and wallpaper store - it's always chinese, and even the same themes downloaded under the chinese theme store are different (I think the chinese store doesn't allow icon packs?). Searching for themes by their english name doesn't work on the chinese theme store either.
There's also a lot more china-specific settings and services that are just gone in the actual global ROM, the global ROM is much more barebones (uses less memory too) than the chinese ROM and not everything can simply be uninstalled in the chinese rom without root, just hidden. The global ROM basically just comes with google play services and common google apps, MIUI replacements for AOSP basic apps like calculator/calendar/weather/browser/music/etc and is as bland as possible to appeal to a larger audience.
Global rom is definitely a better experience, but you CAN use the chinese ROM just fine. I did for awhile until the global ROM came out, flashed it immediately because I wanted a cleaner OS with ~10 less random chinese apps sitting in the app drawer.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not particularly bothered by that stuff, I just want regular ota updates and miui 9. I've heard that some notifications have a problem on the Chinese rom and Google contacts has a problem syncing. Did you find that?
Vennesch said:
Just buy it and flash Global Rom on it
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I don't really want to mess around with the phone at all. I'm not a flash/mod disciple.
My Mix 2 has Chinese rom and I find it OK after I installed the Google installer app. I stopped all Chinese roms that I do not need. With 256 GB, I do not worry about the stopped Chinese roms eating into the memory.
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My Mix 2 has Chinese rom and I find it OK after I installed the Google installer app. I stopped all Chinese roms that I do not need. With 256 GB, I do not worry about the stopped Chinese roms eating into the memory. I heard that Chinese rom gets update more quickly.
Thanks for the replies. I've ordered it with the Chinese ROM.
Just a quick update to say that the Chinese rom is perfectly ok for me. No glaring issues at all.
Everything OK
Twotems said:
Just a quick update to say that the Chinese rom is perfectly ok for me. No glaring issues at all.
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I have the same experience after a week using the China ROM on my Redmi 5 Plus
With China ROM I was able to delete 80% of china bloatware and everything else runs just fine and smooth, calls, GPS, email, etc. (with Gapps) so if you never flashed a ROM before, I recommend to keep the China ROM instead of the Global
Haha, many Chinese flash the global rom just for the clean OS and the AOSP notification bar.
If I was to get the device with the Chinese ROM installed is it simply a case of downloading the global ROM from the mini website and installing it via the updater app or will the bootloader need to be unlocked? Seen a couple of good deals but all for the Chinese version.
nigelm77 said:
If I was to get the device with the Chinese ROM installed is it simply a case of downloading the global ROM from the mini website and installing it via the updater app or will the bootloader need to be unlocked? Seen a couple of good deals but all for the Chinese version.
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its not so easy, you need to get a unlock approval from xiaomi, then you need to wait to unlock the bootloader, and then you can flash whatever you want.
From getting the approval to the finished unlocked bootloader, it will take about 3-5 days
i am looking to purchase mi 9 once it is released in china, but how long does it take for the MIUI 10 global rom available to download?
Twotems said:
Apart from having to add gapps and some Chinese bloat, is there any other downside to sticking with the Chinese ROM?
What upsides are there if any?
Thanks.
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I think I mightve flashed the chinese rom, not sure. Are you able to change the region in Settings? I cant... (screenshot)
GWARslave119 said:
I think I mightve flashed the chinese rom, not sure. Are you able to change the region in Settings? I cant... (screenshot)
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I don't use the phone any more (gave it to my son) but I never changed the region and it didn't make any difference. Phone ran and still runs flawlessly.
Twotems said:
I don't use the phone any more (gave it to my son) but I never changed the region and it didn't make any difference. Phone ran and still runs flawlessly.
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Well I'm wondering if that's why my phone keeps trying (and failing) to contact/activate my sim card when trying to use Mi Cloud..
GWARslave119 said:
Well I'm wondering if that's why my phone keeps trying (and failing) to contact/activate my sim card when trying to use Mi Cloud..
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Ah ok. You need to deactivate your Xiaomi account for the phone. Registering throws up all sorts of stuff including ads etc. After that you should be good to go.
It's just bugging me that I can't use something that is part of the phone. I also can't use the Mi PC Suite either, it doesn't detect my phone. Not that it's dire, just the fact that it won't work irks me ;p I'm using Havoc rom atm anyways, but knowing me I'll be switching around a lot
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
alejandromujica.rsm said:
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
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Do you have a list of the differences ? I'm interested
I guess via recovery (Maybe only flashing)
alejandromujica.rsm said:
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
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There's a OTA for 11.0.2.0 to up to 11.0.6.0. Two ways to install:
1 via TWRP wiping dalvik cache, cache, data, system and flash.
2 regret MIUI 11.0.2.0 via fastboot like mine video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk48aPvu5vU
Link for OTA and recovery MIUI versions:
https://www.getdroidtips.com/miui-11-0-6-0-redmi-note-8-pro/
I hope help you
alejandromujica.rsm said:
My device seems to be Europe due to the default OS that came with the device, I have never unlocked the bootloader or done changes to the ROM, however I'd like to move to Global because it's said to have differences among the EUROPE version? If so, how and if I can move to the global version?
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Words of advise, just do not attempt to do anything without UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER FIRST!!
You simply cannot switch regions before taking that first preliminary step.
That's the way it goes.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Successfully moved from 11.0.3 EU to 11.0.6 Global, no issues, however, I can't seem to install Magisk cause I end up in a bootloop.
alejandromujica.rsm said:
Successfully moved from 11.0.3 EU to 11.0.6 Global, no issues, however, I can't seem to install Magisk cause I end up in a bootloop.
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link pls... tnx..
alejandromujica.rsm said:
Successfully moved from 11.0.3 EU to 11.0.6 Global, no issues, however, I can't seem to install Magisk cause I end up in a bootloop.
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How?
Did you have to unlock the bootloader? Or you just manually push the update trought the update app?
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Mik_Chester said:
Did you have to unlock the bootloader? Or you just manually push the update trought the update app?
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Always have to unlock bootloader, did it through TWRP, also rooted the phone as well, installed Dolby and Viper4Android as well, everything working smoothly.
what are the main differences between the roms ?
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what are the main differences between the roms ?
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I asked the same question, because i am on the global euro firmware, and my phone is not detecting my NAVIGO transit card through NFC. I was wondering if the global international was better regarding this matter.
I've moved from EEA to GLOBAL with Xiaomitool 2, it changes my firmware to 11.0.2 GLOBAL without unlocking the bootloader, and then I manually push the full upgrade through the update app. Then I restore my phone for a full restoration.
Working smooth without issues.
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checkflow said:
I asked the same question, because i am on the global euro firmware, and my phone is not detecting my NAVIGO transit card through NFC. I was wondering if the global international was better regarding this matter.
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Well, I can only tell few details, the major one being better battery life.
checkflow said:
Do you have a list of the differences ? I'm interested
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what are the main differences between the roms ?
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checkflow said:
I asked the same question, because i am on the global euro firmware, and my phone is not detecting my NAVIGO transit card through NFC. I was wondering if the global international was better regarding this matter.
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Well, I can only tell few details, the major one being better battery life.
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When I am unsure what the real differences are because I think HW is the same for both Global and Eu phones, I am pretty sure Laws regarding privacy of users are more strict in EU and there are probably some alteration of bundled software to abide with them.
Those privacy laws are the main reason why neither of those Roms have default MIUI dialer + recording and Messaging, because Xiaomi collects quite a lot of data. Not saying Google does not, but they already had to abide with those Rules and Regulations, so was probably way easier to bundle default android apps, rather than patching their own apps and doing so ending up having 2 versions of the same app.
Besides that, I am pretty curious too what really are the difference between EEA and Global versions with same number. Of course if we compare two different versions of MIUI, we will always find something different.
I am not sure where we can find an official info.
UPDATE:
As I was suspecting looks like main differences are related to ads and how/what datas can be collected or not.
From this post here where users were speaking about it too, differences seems to be summarized to those main differences:
EEA is a Global Rom specially designed for Europe - which basically is just saying they are taking GDPR seriously. You won't get ads and you will need to accept a prompt on every instance where they would collect data (unlike standard Global one).
Global ROM:
This is the official worldwide ROM for all countries except China
The Global ROM has also a Beta Program
The Global ROM receives updates every 1 to 2 months
EEA ROM:
This ROM was specifically designed for EU countries
During the first setup, one can disable all ads inside Mi Apps globally, whereas in the Global ROM, one needs to do that in the Apps themselves
The EEA ROM doesn't have a Beta program
Updates seem to be slower
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Hope this helps and is accurate.
Regards.
Mik_Chester said:
I've moved from EEA to GLOBAL with Xiaomitool 2, it changes my firmware to 11.0.2 GLOBAL without unlocking the bootloader, and then I manually push the full upgrade through the update app. Then I restore my phone for a full restoration.
Working smooth without issues.
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How?
jarp20 said:
How?
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Use xiaomitool v2 to change from EEA to global stable.
Just search it at xda forum, download it, and follow the instruction o both screen, PC and phone.
I had change the rom without unlocking the bootloader, no problems at all. But do it with your own responsability. I made it following the instructions from the forum of the Xiaomi Mi 9, that someone make it without unlocking bootloader. So I think than on ours phone, it was the same thing.
I delete my gmail account and the rest of account, then I follow the instruction. Clickin on My phone works correctly and i want to mod it, when Xiaomitool v2 ask me what i want to do. Then, click on global, the program itself download global rom 11.0.2 and then install via fastboot. Then i initialised the phone, put the full update global 11.0.6 zip in the phone storage, then go to update app, touch ten times miui 11 logo, and then, tap on the tree dots, manual upgrade, select the update zip. The phone installa the update and you will get your Redmi Note 8 Pro EEA 11.0.3 rom moved to Redmi Note 8 Pro GLOBAL 11.0.6.
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EEU Roms really dont have ads ?
vergilz18 said:
EEU Roms really dont have ads ?
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Personally after I have debloated the phone using Saki tools (I was not aware of that 'option' to disable ads within the settings) I dont get those MIUI ads everywhere. Of course that does not remove the 'Free' applications ads from the 3rd party application you may install (freemium games and such). Adaway might deal with those, or patch of culprit app with Luckpatcher or such. Or just dont install Adware apps.
I also did not really read what was asked of me when I first started the phone, but as a general rule I answer NO to every thing
For example an other girl friend of mine, who has no computer skills and just started the phone out of the box gets ads everywhere.
An other example the MIUI app installer, which I thought was essential to run the OS, adds ads for every apk installation. You get rid of that, you fall back on regular android stock installer and it has no ads.
Basically all MIUI apps shipped with the phone en EEA has ads. So if you have no use for them, get rid off them.
Once you have removed/disabled all of those, you'll get considerably less ads showing for sure
Hope this helps.
Regards,
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I'm on miui 11.0.3 indian stable. I have successfully installed root via magisk in my device.
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Whenever i boot into twrp, all my folder names of internal storgae are shown with absurd names as you can check in photo. While in all other folders, like sd card and others, name are being displayed correctly. Don't know why twrp is not able to read folders of my internal storage.
I didn't have space on sd card so I tried to movie zip file in my otg pen drive and then tried to flash zip "
miui_BEGONIAININGlobal_V11.0.4.0.PGGINXM_8f956c6413_9.0.zip" but as usual received this error message.
Now don't know what to do. Please help.
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I'm on miui 11.0.3 indian stable. I have successfully installed root via magisk in my device.
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Whenever i boot into twrp, all my folder names of internal storgae are shown with absurd names as you can check in photo. While in all other folders, like sd card and others, name are being displayed correctly. Don't know why twrp is not able to read folders of my internal storage.
I didn't have space on sd card so I tried to movie zip file in my otg pen drive and then tried to flash zip "
miui_BEGONIAININGlobal_V11.0.4.0.PGGINXM_8f956c6413_9.0.zip" but as usual received this error message.
Now don't know what to do. Please help.
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Man I already answered your question in that other thread where you asked it.
Please refrain from posting duplicate question (even less when that one was already answered!) in different threads that you dont even own and which are not quite related to your own issue.
Regards.
Greetings guys, i want to install custom rom, and i've searched all over the forum and didn't find any stable release of rom, for Xiaomi Redmi 9 Pro (International) version.
If someone could guide me what ROM should i install i'd be thankful!
Thanks in advance!
bxlogic said:
Greetings guys, i want to install custom rom, and i've searched all over the forum and didn't find any stable release of rom, for Xiaomi Redmi 9 Pro (International) version.
If someone could guide me what ROM should i install i'd be thankful!
Thanks in advance!
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I run the MIUI 12.0.2 by xiaomi.eu. It is perfectly stable and everything works. No other ROM could convince me so far. I really love Havoc OS but the comments indicate that there are still a few problems with Joyeuse.
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I run the MIUI 12.0.2 by xiaomi.eu. It is perfectly stable and everything works. No other ROM could convince me so far. I really love Havoc OS but the comments indicate that there are still a few problems with Joyeuse.
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is it better than official miui rom? I like eu rom but I mostly use google apps that's why I haven't moved yet!
i agree with @kennymaster. although i cant wait till the day i can get rid of MIUI, for the time being feel like i should still stick to the stock ROM considering the the issues. Havoc, RR had their share of users but still cant convince myself to jump the ship. little old now for this ROM hopping business maybe
Are their any changes in the last days/weeks? I'm also looking for a good working ROM. Mostly, i want to get rid of MIUI but in first, the most important is to get the most functions working without Bloatware and Ads.
After many years with Xiaomi phones and custom ROM's I have reverted to stock MIUI ROM - debloated with ....
XiaomiADBFastbootTools.jar
.... and find it the best compromise for battery life, optimisations, lack of bugs etc etc etc
Yeah thats what i done yesterday after the phone arrived -> i have set it up so minimal like it was possible, then debloated it but got after debloating maximal issues with camera, system freezes and unexpected restarts/shutdowns instead of just kill the mi browser, video and all that stuff
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Yeah thats what i done yesterday after the phone arrived -> i have set it up so minimal like it was possible, then debloated it but got after debloating maximal issues with camera, system freezes and unexpected restarts/shutdowns instead of just kill the mi browser, video and all that stuff
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Sorry to hear that. My setup is totaly stable so I attach a screenshot of what I left enabled ....
PS I am unlocked, but not rooted and standard recovery.
HiQual said:
Sorry to hear that. My setup is totaly stable so I attach a screenshot of what I left enabled ....
PS I am unlocked, but not rooted and standard recovery.
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Are the rest disabled or also uninstalled please?
hasim65 said:
Are the rest disabled or also uninstalled please?
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I disbled them first, to test it was stable. After I found it was stable I uninstalled them.
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I disbled them first, to test it was stable. After I found it was stable I uninstalled them.
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Thank you for the answer mate!
I'm amazed that the situation has not moved on at all since I first got this device over a year ago now I think?
So to be sure, is it still a bit dodgy to even just debloat the device as yet?
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I'm amazed that the situation has not moved on at all since I first got this device over a year ago now I think?
So to be sure, is it still a bit dodgy to even just debloat the device as yet?
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Honestly im surprised as well. I bought this phone so early assuming the attention it would get (and i have a track record of pumping out ROMs for my devices but regardless. Im certain there will eventually be bug free builds its the lack of interest and probably with all the other crap going on in the world XDA in general has been kind of slow so on that hand i shouldn't be surprised. Regardless
Il dont mean to come across in a bragging way so excuse me if it comes across like that because i barely consider myself a dev lmao but all my past devices i had dozens of separate threads with at least weekly releases (daily was killing me lol) so i was ready to give our device the same treatment! I just didn't think they were going to raise the specs to what they are now for a PC that can compile the builds
I think that the best Note 9S ROM is the AOSiP port, at least the Curtana version which I am using. I went through four or five of them in a month, starting with Lineage, and had various and sundry issues. Tried going to Resurrection and stuck in a bootloop even. Went to AOSiP and it Just Worked™. Fast and bug free in my experience, too. Rooted with Magisk, extensions to tame the usual (battery life, charging limitation, etc.) and it's my daily driver now.
I'm using Extended, it's a good ROM, stable and with good battery life. It have miui camera and a lot of customisations.
It's my daily ROM.
I tested PE, Havoc, but the best is Extended.
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Yeah thats what i done yesterday after the phone arrived -> i have set it up so minimal like it was possible, then debloated it but got after debloating maximal issues with camera, system freezes and unexpected restarts/shutdowns instead of just kill the mi browser, video and all that stuff
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I think its becouse you are trying to open files without third party applications installed. When you trying to open video, for exaple, OS will search the memory to find applications that can open this video, if it does not find it, it opens it via a default application which is MiVideo but it is not there because it has been uninstalled, OS does not know what to do next so it repeats the script and again and again and so on, this is why the phone freezes or resets, so to fix it you need to install e.g. VLC and give it permission when you first time run that app (NOPE for Localization always!xD)
TL;TR: If you remove an application that is pre-installed then you need to install an alternative for that application.
In the picture you can see what's left of the preinstalled apps on my phone (they can't be removed or are not 100% safe to remove or simply I use them) and I've never had freezes and other such problems.
PS: I removed preinstalled Game Turbo its "com.xiaomi.glgm" and I downloaded (apkpure, fdroid, aurora) and installed it manually because I was afraid that the pre-installed one uses cleanmaster which I removed.
PS2: sry for my english
Do I understand correct that no one is posting links to the Roms they us, cause these roms are not on XDA forum?
Than where to look?
Sincerely
Julian
I'm using secret technique called "Google Jutsu It" and I can't tell how to do it. But I can tell you BlissRom looks good too
argonaut459 said:
Do I understand correct that no one is posting links to the Roms they us, cause these roms are not on XDA forum?
Than where to look?
Sincerely
Julian
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Im using a port just now. One os. Pretty stable. I have joyeuse. There's alot of roms out there. Both a10 and a11. And miui modded roms.
Howcome there's no official TWRP for RN9Pro?
Background Info -
I purchased my 16GB x 512GB Mi MIX Fold from a reputable supplier on Alibaba. It was claimed that he was capable of making it have a "Global" ROM (a 5 - 7 day process is how long it took him). All Google services and apps were preloaded, just like my first Xiaomi Global phone I purchased 1.5 years ago. As well as only some of the Xiaomi Global apps. Now that I have the phone, I am running into a fair bit of issues (in this post I am only focusing on one). I did bring these all up to the supplier (of course including updating the ROM issues), all without much help. All he gave me was he said the ROM on my phone is actually the EEA version that was modified, and of I need any updates, go on www.xiaomi.eu. So not much help, because come to find out, they don't support the Mi MIX Fold and that there is no ROMs available. Including the current ROM my phone has right now - V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global").
What is nice about my phone is that all the system apps are the Global versions. But what's not so great is the System Apps Updater does not work at all. It shows there are update(s) available for my Global apps, but when I update them, they are indefinitely suck at "Connecting 0%". I also tried Xiaomi's "Get Apps" while switching my Region to "India", it too showed updates, and would not update them no matter what I tried. So, I search online for each individual system app, and update each manually (yes, the whole process is a pain).
So Where I Need Some Help (The Purpose Of This Post...Updating the ROM) -
So, I am in the process of trying to update my phone's ROM, to get the best MIUI has to offer for the Mi MIX Fold. I have searched all over the internet and the only ROMs I can find are "China" versions.
My current ROM version is V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global"). I know the most up to date ROM is V12.0.21.0.RJTCNXM (but it's the "China" version). I would like to have the current ROM, but I have a strong feeling that I will loose all functionality of all my Global system apps. The Xiaomi Updater app unfortunately does not work at all. When checking for an update, it says "No updates available". When tapping "Download latest package", it says "Can't download update...Wait a minute or two and try again". When I tap "What's new", it says "You don't have permission to access the update log...". Please see screenshots for all of this. I even tried to update it another traditional Xiaomi way by using Mi PC Suite, which it couldn't even detect my phone when connected. So that doesn't work either.
So my attempts are as follows (at least 20 attempts). I downloaded every Stable Recovery ROM version as listed in the XDA Mi MIX forum titles "MIUI Updates Tracker (Mi MIX Fold)" I also downloaded every ROM version from a couple other sources. I tried to update the ROM (from the newest version to the oldest) using the Xiaomi Updater app through Recovery Mode. Every time it failed saying "Current version is invalid. You can only flash the latest stable ROM", or "Can't verify update...Can't install official ROM". So then I downloaded the ROMs directly from mirror links to Xiaomi's server. I did the same update procedure, they all failed. Does that mean I have to do it via Fastboot?
Last Thoughts -
I included some screenshots showing what the ROM is on my phone (and the outdated Android security update), and what message comes up with each update attempt.
Could you guys point me in the right direction and help me figure out how I can update my Mi MIX Fold to the most current ROM, preferably the EEA version (if possible), since there really is no such thing as a Global version? I would be extremely appreciative if someone can shed some light!
Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Thank you very much for your response!
OK, so it looks like I will have no choice but to get rid of the custom "Global" ROM for the China version. I do wonder though if I am going to lose out on anything as far as the Global system apps (but won't update, unless manually), or all the Google apps & services, or anything else. There of course are many benefits switching to the China ROM.
I'm just a little reluctant because of it being a China ROM being used on a phone in the US. And having features that only work in China and is not optimized for the Global market. As well as features usually found on a Global Xiaomi phone, would be missing or can't work at all. Maybe I am overthinking it all. Another concern is if the China ROM would have English as a language that can be choses. I assume so, but it would be a plus to know 100% before I make the plunge.
Only if I could play around with a Mi MIX Fold with a fresh install of the China ROM. See how different it really is compared to what I currently have. See what it comes with (apps & all) & what is or isn't compatible. My previous, & only Xiaomi phone, was the Global version of the Mi Note 10 Pro. So I have, I guess you can call it, a Xiaomi Global mindset. My Mi MIX Fold is my daily driver, I can't play too much around. Also if I do flash it with China ROM, I can't revert it back to the ROM it has now, since it seems to be custom. Unless I can somehow backup absolute everything, ROM and all.
I know this is a simple question, but what and how is the very best method to back everything up? To not only make sure no data is lost, but also to make the whole process faster when restoring everything.
Do you have any other suggestions or advice? I would appreciate it!
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
bom Dia, como consigo essa rom global?
Obrigado
anasmhds said:
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
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Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
JazonX said:
Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
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Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
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Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
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Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
JazonX said:
Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
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Sold my mix Fold and replaced with Samsung fold 3 as the software of Samsung is better, but both are suitable only for office use not a daily driver.
I am using xiaomi 12 pro as a daily driver and planning to move to s22 ultra soon .
Did you find any solution to install Global ROM in Mi Mix Fold?
hello every one
i have Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 with chines rom how can to convert it to global rom ?