Apart from having to add gapps and some Chinese bloat, is there any other downside to sticking with the Chinese ROM?
What upsides are there if any?
Thanks.
Can anyone reply please? I've found one at an excellent price and want to snag it before it goes.
You can keep using the chinese one and have it fully functional, but some polish is missing and some aspects of MIUI will be chinese even with the language set to english. The biggest one I noticed is the theme and wallpaper store - it's always chinese, and even the same themes downloaded under the chinese theme store are different (I think the chinese store doesn't allow icon packs?). Searching for themes by their english name doesn't work on the chinese theme store either.
There's also a lot more china-specific settings and services that are just gone in the actual global ROM, the global ROM is much more barebones (uses less memory too) than the chinese ROM and not everything can simply be uninstalled in the chinese rom without root, just hidden. The global ROM basically just comes with google play services and common google apps, MIUI replacements for AOSP basic apps like calculator/calendar/weather/browser/music/etc and is as bland as possible to appeal to a larger audience.
Global rom is definitely a better experience, but you CAN use the chinese ROM just fine. I did for awhile until the global ROM came out, flashed it immediately because I wanted a cleaner OS with ~10 less random chinese apps sitting in the app drawer.
Just buy it and flash Global Rom on it
Elanzer said:
You can keep using the chinese one and have it fully functional, but some polish is missing and some aspects of MIUI will be chinese even with the language set to english. The biggest one I noticed is the theme and wallpaper store - it's always chinese, and even the same themes downloaded under the chinese theme store are different (I think the chinese store doesn't allow icon packs?). Searching for themes by their english name doesn't work on the chinese theme store either.
There's also a lot more china-specific settings and services that are just gone in the actual global ROM, the global ROM is much more barebones (uses less memory too) than the chinese ROM and not everything can simply be uninstalled in the chinese rom without root, just hidden. The global ROM basically just comes with google play services and common google apps, MIUI replacements for AOSP basic apps like calculator/calendar/weather/browser/music/etc and is as bland as possible to appeal to a larger audience.
Global rom is definitely a better experience, but you CAN use the chinese ROM just fine. I did for awhile until the global ROM came out, flashed it immediately because I wanted a cleaner OS with ~10 less random chinese apps sitting in the app drawer.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not particularly bothered by that stuff, I just want regular ota updates and miui 9. I've heard that some notifications have a problem on the Chinese rom and Google contacts has a problem syncing. Did you find that?
Vennesch said:
Just buy it and flash Global Rom on it
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I don't really want to mess around with the phone at all. I'm not a flash/mod disciple.
My Mix 2 has Chinese rom and I find it OK after I installed the Google installer app. I stopped all Chinese roms that I do not need. With 256 GB, I do not worry about the stopped Chinese roms eating into the memory.
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My Mix 2 has Chinese rom and I find it OK after I installed the Google installer app. I stopped all Chinese roms that I do not need. With 256 GB, I do not worry about the stopped Chinese roms eating into the memory. I heard that Chinese rom gets update more quickly.
Thanks for the replies. I've ordered it with the Chinese ROM.
Just a quick update to say that the Chinese rom is perfectly ok for me. No glaring issues at all.
Everything OK
Twotems said:
Just a quick update to say that the Chinese rom is perfectly ok for me. No glaring issues at all.
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I have the same experience after a week using the China ROM on my Redmi 5 Plus
With China ROM I was able to delete 80% of china bloatware and everything else runs just fine and smooth, calls, GPS, email, etc. (with Gapps) so if you never flashed a ROM before, I recommend to keep the China ROM instead of the Global
Haha, many Chinese flash the global rom just for the clean OS and the AOSP notification bar.
If I was to get the device with the Chinese ROM installed is it simply a case of downloading the global ROM from the mini website and installing it via the updater app or will the bootloader need to be unlocked? Seen a couple of good deals but all for the Chinese version.
nigelm77 said:
If I was to get the device with the Chinese ROM installed is it simply a case of downloading the global ROM from the mini website and installing it via the updater app or will the bootloader need to be unlocked? Seen a couple of good deals but all for the Chinese version.
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its not so easy, you need to get a unlock approval from xiaomi, then you need to wait to unlock the bootloader, and then you can flash whatever you want.
From getting the approval to the finished unlocked bootloader, it will take about 3-5 days
i am looking to purchase mi 9 once it is released in china, but how long does it take for the MIUI 10 global rom available to download?
Twotems said:
Apart from having to add gapps and some Chinese bloat, is there any other downside to sticking with the Chinese ROM?
What upsides are there if any?
Thanks.
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I think I mightve flashed the chinese rom, not sure. Are you able to change the region in Settings? I cant... (screenshot)
GWARslave119 said:
I think I mightve flashed the chinese rom, not sure. Are you able to change the region in Settings? I cant... (screenshot)
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I don't use the phone any more (gave it to my son) but I never changed the region and it didn't make any difference. Phone ran and still runs flawlessly.
Twotems said:
I don't use the phone any more (gave it to my son) but I never changed the region and it didn't make any difference. Phone ran and still runs flawlessly.
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Well I'm wondering if that's why my phone keeps trying (and failing) to contact/activate my sim card when trying to use Mi Cloud..
GWARslave119 said:
Well I'm wondering if that's why my phone keeps trying (and failing) to contact/activate my sim card when trying to use Mi Cloud..
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Ah ok. You need to deactivate your Xiaomi account for the phone. Registering throws up all sorts of stuff including ads etc. After that you should be good to go.
It's just bugging me that I can't use something that is part of the phone. I also can't use the Mi PC Suite either, it doesn't detect my phone. Not that it's dire, just the fact that it won't work irks me ;p I'm using Havoc rom atm anyways, but knowing me I'll be switching around a lot
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Hi,
I've been looking at buying this phone because my current one (Honor 5x) is a bit slow for my tastes but I just have a few questions.
1. If I buy the device from a Chinese vendor on AE/Ebay then will I need to use this guide to flash the global ROM to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/installing-twrp-locked-bootloader-t3406501
I'm quite content to flash it myself since my last experience with proper Chinese phones (Elephone P7000) wasn't exactly a positive one and I would prefer an official Xiaomi ROM over anything custom. I also wouldn't want a rooted or BL unlocked handset and in any case Xiaomi's BL unlock authorisation process sounds painful.
2. Does the official Global ROM have full support for Google apps, DRM protected content, banking apps etc?
3. Does the official Global ROM contain any left over Chinese or is it 100% localised? I recall that my Elephone retained a Chinese bootloader and using the recovery menu when I needed to was extremely difficult. I can read quite a lot of Japanese but I don't know any Chinese and whilst a lot of the characters are the same, many others don't exist in Japanese at all or carry a different meaning.
4. Can I use Google Now over the MIUI?
Thanks in advance.
BloodRose said:
Hi,
I've been looking at buying this phone because my current one (Honor 5x) is a bit slow for my tastes but I just have a few questions.
1. If I buy the device from a Chinese vendor on AE/Ebay then will I need to use this guide to flash the global ROM to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/installing-twrp-locked-bootloader-t3406501
I'm quite content to flash it myself since my last experience with proper Chinese phones (Elephone P7000) wasn't exactly a positive one and I would prefer an official Xiaomi ROM over anything custom. I also wouldn't want a rooted or BL unlocked handset and in any case Xiaomi's BL unlock authorisation process sounds painful.
2. Does the official Global ROM have full support for Google apps, DRM protected content, banking apps etc?
3. Does the official Global ROM contain any left over Chinese or is it 100% localised? I recall that my Elephone retained a Chinese bootloader and using the recovery menu when I needed to was extremely difficult. I can read quite a lot of Japanese but I don't know any Chinese and whilst a lot of the characters are the same, many others don't exist in Japanese at all or carry a different meaning.
4. Can I use Google Now over the MIUI?
Thanks in advance.
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2. Yes, it has full support for Google Apps, DRM, Protected Content, Banking Apps, etc.
3. No chinese leftover in Global ROM
4. Yes, you can use Google Now on MIUI
paarkhi said:
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2. Yes, it has full support for Google Apps, DRM, Protected Content, Banking Apps, etc.
3. No chinese leftover in Global ROM
4. Yes, you can use Google Now on MIUI
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Those were the exact answers that I was hoping for. Thanks.
You can use Google Now, but not now on tap.
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BloodRose said:
Those were the exact answers that I was hoping for. Thanks.
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After reading the link you posted the answer to your first question is also yes, that's the guide you'll need to follow to flash the stock rom and twrp recovery (only if bootloader is locked else if it's unlocked then instead of edl mode, you can boot in fastboot mode)
re Question #1
if you buy a Helium model (64/128gb) the official global rom isn't out yet. It'll probably come out in August from what I can see. http://en.miui.com/download-302.html#446
However the China Dev Rom for MIUI 8 isn't thaat bad. Once you get through 10 mins of pain first installing gapps and installing an english keyboard you won't see that much chinese and most chinese apps can be uninstalled. It'll do you OK until a global rom is out.
Ulver said:
You can use Google Now, but not now on tap.
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I'm sorry, what does that mean?
bobert135 said:
re Question #1
if you buy a Helium model (64/128gb) the official global rom isn't out yet. It'll probably come out in August from what I can see. http://en.miui.com/download-302.html#446
However the China Dev Rom for MIUI 8 isn't thaat bad. Once you get through 10 mins of pain first installing gapps and installing an english keyboard you won't see that much chinese and most chinese apps can be uninstalled. It'll do you OK until a global rom is out.
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I've gone for the 32GB/3GB version because the bigger versions were more than I wanted to spend really. Apparently the seller I've ordered it from are shipping them with the official Global ROM out of the box now so it should hopefully be OK to just pick up and go when it arrives.
Is there a global 64/3 version rom for the miui 7?
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
BloodRose said:
I'm sorry, what does that mean?
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Now on Tap is a feature which Google has released with Marshmallow where you can long press the home button on any screen and Google will show the details related to the subject which is on your screen. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THIS FEATURE ON MIUI.
google said:
You can hold down your Home button to get information about what's on your screen using Now on Tap
Now on Tap is available for Android devices with both:
Android 6.0 (Android M)
Language set to English, Japanese, German, Spanish, Italian, French, Korean, Portuguese, or Russian
On any screen, touch and hold the Home button.
Google uses what's on your screen to show you related info, apps, and actions
Ways to use Now on Tap
Restaurants: Find restaurants and other points of interest mentioned on screen.
Movies: See reviews and info about a cast using the film name.
Music: Get details about a song or artist from within your app.
People: Learn about famous people and celebrities in the news.
Images: Get info about artwork, product logos, landmarks, and more.
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https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6304517?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-start-using-google-now-on-tap-in-android-marshmallow/
paarkhi said:
Now on Tap is a feature which Google has released with Marshmallow where you can long press the home button on any screen and Google will show the details related to the subject which is on your screen. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THIS FEATURE ON MIUI.
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6304517?co=GENIE.Platform=Android&hl=en
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-start-using-google-now-on-tap-in-android-marshmallow/
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Thanks. That is actually a slight positive for me because my current phone (Honor 5x) has that feature and I hate it.
Ive just received my Mi Max from Top-One.
It is the S652, 3gb ram, 64gb storage
It has Miui 7.3.14.0.0
How do I update it to the latest stable MIUI version?
thank you
(when i use the in built updater it tells me that there are no updates available )
I think only the 32gb 650 has a global rom at the moment. I have the 652 4gb 128gb Max and am waiting for that global rom to come. Check on en.miui.com in the download section for the Max.
In the meantime, check if your ROM is legit. Actually, I'd unlock the bootloader and flash a new ROM to be sure.
Register a Mi account and apply for bootloader unlocking. Doesn't matter if you're outside of China and use a non Chinese number and state your reason in English. Takes a few days.
I bought a Mi5, Max, and Redmi Pro then made three new accounts and unlocked each one within 4 days.
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
Also tinker the app notifications. Enable notification light, lock screen notification, floating etc.
You might also want to "lock" apps in the memory so they won't reload or stop after you switch apps. To do that press the menu button and swipe down to.the app you want to be locked in memory. Then press the lock key.
kinghu said:
In the meantime, check if your ROM is legit.
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ramy911us said:
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
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How?
Vendor ROMs
Most Xiaomi devices that are bought through unofficial channels (grey market) come with this type of ROM. It has multiple languages and Google Play Store, but often also adware and bloatware, which are annoying and slow the phone down. This ROM is also buggy and unoptimised, so some things might not work (e.g. battery showing negative percentage or the rear LED not working at all), you might encounter issues and inconsistencies (e.g. freezing, lagging) and because of these attributes it is not safe to use. You can get rid of this ROM by flashing another ROM, usually via MiFlash. If your bootloader is locked, you can only flash official ROMs and only via EDL mode (see here).
Spotting a vendor ROM
It has system languages available other than Chinese and English
It has Google Play Store
Below Settings > About phone, MIUI version is fake (e.g. V7.00.99.00, V7.0.7.0.0 or 7.91.8.0) and the letter code afterwards has 'CN' or 'CL' in it
So what are the steps necessary to get this onto the latest stable official miui rom?
First thing you want to do is to get rid of the vendor ROM on your phone. En.miui.com has some tutorials on how to do it.
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
panyan said:
Ive just received my Mi Max from Top-One.
It is the S652, 3gb ram, 64gb storage
It has Miui 7.3.14.0.0
How do I update it to the latest stable MIUI version?
thank you
(when i use the in built updater it tells me that there are no updates available )
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don brian said:
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
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I think im going to wait until ajsmsg78 updates his excellent ROM with the OFFICIAL stable global ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
You can still install Google services apk's from legit sites like apk mirror if you want to stay on the China ROM. Or check out xiaomi.eu's ROM.
Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk
you can flash your mi max with bootloader locked
you need boot on EDL mode (vol+ and vol - and power) and flash fastboot rom with miflash beta
tuto here
fastboot rom miui 7.5 global official here /!\ FOR 64/128Gb ONLY
rcd1030 said:
you can flash your mi max with bootloader locked
you need boot on EDL mode (vol+ and vol - and power) and flash fastboot rom with miflash beta
tuto here
fastboot rom miui 7.5 global official here /!\ FOR 64/128Gb ONLY
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That sounds very similar to using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/guide-install-global-miui8-root-t3435594
And then I can flash this right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
panyan said:
That sounds very similar to using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/how-to/guide-install-global-miui8-root-t3435594
And then I can flash this right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698
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Ah nice I did not see this tuto,
Yes you can flash twrp with miflash and then install this rom in twrp (don't forget wipe factory reset before)
rcd1030 said:
Ah nice I did not see this tuto,
Yes you can flash twrp with miflash and then install this rom in twrp (don't forget wipe factory reset before)
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what is the point of unlocking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
panyan said:
what is the point of unlocking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
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EDL mode (Emergency Download Mode) allows to bypass the locked bootloader, but xiaomi can disable this edl mode with a simple update (e.g. mi5 since MIUI 7.3.x.x )
with bootloader unlocked your phone is totally open
panyan said:
what is the point of locking the bootloader if you can still flash custom roms with a locked bootloader? (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max/development/rom-miui-8-global-t3439698)
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Corrected...
Honestly I think you have a greater shot at bricking your phone after flashing a custom rom if it's locked. Or flashing the wrong firmware from a different model. I didn't have to do a battery pull after I flashed the wrong firmware on my Helium when I first got it. It's probably because I was already unlocked. I don't know why anyone here wouldn't wanna unlock.
ajsmsg78 said:
Honestly I think you have a greater shot at bricking your phone after flashing a custom rom if it's locked. Or flashing the wrong firmware from a different model. I didn't have to do a battery pull after I flashed the wrong firmware on my Helium when I first got it. It's probably because I was already unlocked. I don't know why anyone here wouldn't wanna unlock.
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they don't wanna lose their warranty?
Just an update. Finally got rid of the vendor ROM after Xiaomi released the official global ROM for helium devices.
My Mi Max 'Pro' (it is now called Mi Max 'Prime') is now on official MIUI 8 Global ROM using the procedure in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-...vendor-rom-t3471329/post69173471#post69173471
don brian said:
I have the exact same phone model (Mi Max Pro 3GB RAM, 64GB ROM) and the exact same
ROM: MIUI 7.3.14.0.0 Global as you have. Got my phone from a Chinese ebay vendor with very good
to excellent reviews.
Been using this 'unofficial vendor ROM' for quite sometime now and in fairness to whoever made the 'custom'
vendor ROM (I believe it is derived from the official global ROM of the 32GB Mi Max), the vendor ROM is very stable
and working very well for me. No reboots, forced closes/crashes or major problems with any of my 130+ apps:
Google apps (Gmail, playstore, newsstand, etc.), 10+ paid apps and 100+ free apps. The good thing about the ROM
is it has ZERO Chinese characters or apps in it. Just choose 'English' as default language and you're good to go.
I have decided to wait for the OFFICIAL global rom for the Mi Max Pro 64GB since the official Chinese ROM is
no good - it doesn't have playstore installed and installing playstore from third party sites is just as risky and tricky as having
a vendor/custom rom in the first place since you will be sideloading the playstore app, play services (and other supporting apps)
anyway. If you don't understand Chinese, how can you trust the sources of those sideloaded playstore apps? I'd rather
trust my vendor ROM as it comes from a seller with very good ebay rating (they care a lot about positive and negative feedback).
A Mi Max phone from a vendor selling the phone with malware and adware infested ROM will be bombarded with negative feedback.
Besides, I have not noticed any malicious apps, unusual ads or bloatware on this vendor ROM (MIUI 7.3.14.0.0) and
I trust it is the best option for me until such time the OFFICIAL global ROM for MI MAX PRO 64GB is released.
If you decide to go official, download the Chinese ROM but don't install playstore. Installing it from dubious sources
can introduce bloatware and malicious apps as well if you are not familiar with the Chinese app market or don't understand
a single Chinese character.
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ramy911us said:
Most important is to probably make sure you're not on a vendor rom.
Also tinker the app notifications. Enable notification light, lock screen notification, floating etc.
You might also want to "lock" apps in the memory so they won't reload or stop after you switch apps. To do that press the menu button and swipe down to.the app you want to be locked in memory. Then press the lock key.
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Can you explain this more please
Hello,
I will getting the Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus tomorrow.
What are some of the first things I should be doing? I feel like I will not like the MIUI too much as I have used stock android on my old Nexus and more recently Cyanogen on my OPO. I plan to install Cyanogenmod on the phone as soon as they release it.
I believe I should do the following to prepare for that so that I do not need to start from scratch in the future (unsure of order and how to do it, some advice and guides here would be helpful, as well as an explanation of the purpose of each step):
- install custom recovery (I'm 99% certain I need to do this to install another ROM)
- root the phone (I don't think this is necessary, but allows me to do other things e.g. use Greenify)
- unlock bootloader (not sure what the purpose of this is)
Are there any other steps I should take?
Thanks in advance!
Unlock bootloader-twrp-miui eu rom - bingo
No need for greenify
Also ex Nexus use here
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
kojoti75 said:
Unlock bootloader-twrp-miui eu rom - bingo
No need for greenify
Also ex Nexus use here
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
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Can you please explain what you mean a bit more?
No need to root?
What is mi ui EU rom? I have intl version of the device (Hong Kong). Does this make a difference?
Thanks!
Without unlocking the bootloader, you can't install any custom recovery or custom ROM, just the official Xiaomi releases.
The eu version have less chinese apps and some minor changes compared to the global version. You can check the differences in their website.
Once you have unlocked the bootloader and install twrp, becoming root is pretty easy.
mtbkule said:
Without unlocking the bootloader, you can't install any custom recovery or custom ROM, just the official Xiaomi releases.
The eu version have less chinese apps and some minor changes compared to the global version. You can check the differences in their website.
Once you have unlocked the bootloader and install twrp, becoming root is pretty easy.
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I can't find any TWRP version for Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Where can I find it?
kojoti75 said:
Unlock bootloader-twrp-miui eu rom - bingo
No need for greenify
Also ex Nexus use here
Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk
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I have Global Rom, is it different from MIUI EU ROM? Needed the change?
I live in Italy
Mi 5s Plus Forum
claudioita said:
I have Global Rom, is it different from MIUI EU ROM? Needed the change?
I live in Italy
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MIUI EU here
en.miui.com/forum-116-1.html
I also use Xiaomi EU. It works great. If you want the UI to look slightly more like a Nexus or Pixel try the "Pixel N" or "Android N" themes.
flipp0 said:
I also use Xiaomi EU. It works great. If you want the UI to look slightly more like a Nexus or Pixel try the "Pixel N" or "Android N" themes.
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Is it much better than the standard Rom?
Link?
Grillox said:
I can't find any TWRP version for Xiaomi Mi5S Plus. Where can I find it?
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It should be here:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=385035244224387312
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claudioita said:
I have Global Rom, is it different from MIUI EU ROM? Needed the change?
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If you are talking about xiaomi.eu, yes it's different.
It's based on official China ROM and as you can see the release of official Global ROM is lagging behind china rom for both mi5s versions. For example stable for Plus is 8.0.4.0 for Global (I guess just one release) while it's 8.2.2.0 for China.
It's cleaned from Chinese apps, it contains many European languages (including Italian) and gapps.
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claudioita said:
Is it much better than the standard Rom?
Link?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/forums/xiaomi-mi5s-plus.149/
I'm on 8.0.4.0 of Global Rom and I must admit that this is the first phone which makes me so satisfied. I'm gonna stay close to later products from Xiaomi as long as they keep doing this way. :laugh:
I don-t understand the different ROM-s.
I now have 8.0.4 Global Stable.
It seems tha a 8.2.2 Global Stable should come out since 20 February (but did not come out)
Then there is a 7.3.9 Global Beta released March 10
http://en.miui.com/thread-534687-1-1.html
But why Beta is a LOWER number (7.3.9 to 8.0.2)???????????
Very confusing
claudioita said:
I don-t understand the different ROM-s.
I now have 8.0.4 Global Stable.
It seems tha a 8.2.2 Global Stable should come out since 20 February (but did not come out)
Then there is a 7.3.9 Global Beta released March 10
http://en.miui.com/thread-534687-1-1.html
But why Beta is a LOWER number (7.3.9 to 8.0.2)???????????
Very confusing
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beta ver number show date of release year.month.day
hello guys. im am strongly considering buying this phone and i just wanted to know if you guys think its worth it to get the 6gb version or is 4gb ram more then enough? i do play alot of games of my phone but on my current one i never seem to use that much ram honestly. please give me your honest opinions
DrTorretz1 said:
hello guys. im am strongly considering buying this phone and i just wanted to know if you guys think its worth it to get the 6gb version or is 4gb ram more then enough? i do play alot of games of my phone but on my current one i never seem to use that much ram honestly. please give me your honest opinions
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4GB is a lot of Ram in my opinion.
Think if you need 64 or 128 of storage in your phonbe, and make your decision based on that.
As far as I know, for my usage (and I am a heavy user) 4GB of RAM is enough nowadays
I am on global ROM. I cannot send MMS picture messages! I have allowed permission in Gallery. Before vthat it said "unable to send as too many unsent multimedia messages", now it says failed after trying to send for a few minutes. Can anyone help. I have been on to my provider, 3 in Ireland and they say all VPN's correct and must be a otobky with the phone. Can someone help me please?
Siocha said:
I am on global ROM. I cannot send MMS picture messages! I have allowed permission in Gallery. Before vthat it said "unable to send as too many unsent multimedia messages", now it says failed after trying to send for a few minutes. Can anyone help. I have been on to my provider, 3 in Ireland and they say all VPN's correct and must be a otobky with the phone. Can someone help me please?
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I can't helop on the subject, there is a particular reason you send MMS, nowadays it seems surpassed by tons of apps that do a better job (whatsapp and the like)
Problem sending MMS picture messages on Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus
claudioita said:
I can't helop on the subject, there is a particular reason you send MMS, nowadays it seems surpassed by tons of apps that do a better job (whatsapp and the like)
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Thanks for trying to help. I have now resolved the problem!. The reason phone was not sending was because of 3G signal only at my home. When I tried in a 4G area not far from my location a picture message flew through. Many thanks re whats app .I use same and there is no difficulty sending pictures on it as I Have good broadband 240 megabytes boosted to almost double that with an Asus rt -87 u router and an Asus AC -66 extender. Regards!
I've been a longtime Huawei user, always very satisfied, and with my contract renewal coming up, I thought of getting a new Huawei phone. However, the big, fat notch that pretty much al P40 series and Mate 40 series phones have now really bothers me a lot, so I looked for alternatives.
I eventually came to the Mi 10T Pro, which has good hardware, and many good reviews, so I decided to pick it up instead.
My old Mate 20, which I had before, didn't have that many Google apps, and all except for 4 could be uninstalled. Those last 4 could be deactivated (including the main "Google" app), and they never bothered me again.
I expected the same from the Mi 10 T Pro... but it's WAY worse. The Mi 10 T Pro is literally DROWNING in a ludicrous amount of Google bloatware, and I ended up with 15 (!) Google apps, which can't be uninstalled!
What's even worse, none of those 15 apps can be deactivated! So they pretty much do whatever they want, keep downloading stuff, keep updating themselves behind my back - unless I turn off WiFi. I can only stop their mobile data usage/background data usage, not their WiFi usage.
A good amount even keeps constantly restarting, after I stop them, they always autostart (impossible to configure autostart for Google apps), all Google apps are exempt from battery saving with no way to change it, some are clawing back privileges after I revoked them... just plain awful.
I'm starting to feel regret that I didn't take a P40 or Mate 40, and just lived with that awful notch... but at least I would've had a great experience without Google bloatware. MIUI seems a bit strange as well...
What would be the best way to get rid of this Google plague?
Would it be possible to flash a China rom on my EU version Mi 10 T Pro? If so, can I just put it into the "downloaded_rom" folder, and update from there? Or must I go through the whole ordeal of having to unlock, then flashing TWRP, and flashing from fastboot, and whatnot?
Would it be possible (or advisable) to use the China dev rom? I read that one gets more frequent updates.
I would be very grateful for any help!
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I've been a longtime Huawei user, always very satisfied, and with my contract renewal coming up, I thought of getting a new Huawei phone. However, the big, fat notch that pretty much al P40 series and Mate 40 series phones have now really bothers me a lot, so I looked for alternatives.
I eventually came to the Mi 10T Pro, which has good hardware, and many good reviews, so I decided to pick it up instead.
My old Mate 20, which I had before, didn't have that many Google apps, and all except for 4 could be uninstalled. Those last 4 could be deactivated (including the main "Google" app), and they never bothered me again.
I expected the same from the Mi 10 T Pro... but it's WAY worse. The Mi 10 T Pro is literally DROWNING in a ludicrous amount of Google bloatware, and I ended up with 15 (!) Google apps, which can't be uninstalled!
What's even worse, none of those 15 apps can be deactivated! So they pretty much do whatever they want, keep downloading stuff, keep updating themselves behind my back - unless I turn off WiFi. I can only stop their mobile data usage/background data usage, not their WiFi usage.
A good amount even keeps constantly restarting, after I stop them, they always autostart (impossible to configure autostart for Google apps), all Google apps are exempt from battery saving with no way to change it, some are clawing back privileges after I revoked them... just plain awful.
I'm starting to feel regret that I didn't take a P40 or Mate 40, and just lived with that awful notch... but at least I would've had a great experience without Google bloatware. MIUI seems a bit strange as well...
What would be the best way to get rid of this Google plague?
Would it be possible to flash a China rom on my EU version Mi 10 T Pro? If so, can I just put it into the "downloaded_rom" folder, and update from there? Or must I go through the whole ordeal of having to unlock, then flashing TWRP, and flashing from fastboot, and whatnot?
Would it be possible (or advisable) to use the China dev rom? I read that one gets more frequent updates.
I would be very grateful for any help!
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You must unlock the bootloader.
Choose a rom here
Use this method for the fastboot rom or twrp for the zip rom.
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This program for debloatware.(without root).
NOSS8 said:
You must unlock the bootloader.
Choose a rom here
Use this method for the fastboot rom or twrp for the zip rom.
or
This program for debloatware.(without root).
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There's no China rom for Mi 10T Pro there... should I pick the Taiwan rom? But that one's not at 12.5 yet.
What about the China dev rom? Would it be possible to use as main rom, or is it too buggy?
Does this "debloatware" allow me to remove all the Google garbage? How does it work?
Momoko-hime said:
There's no China rom for Mi 10T Pro there... should I pick the Taiwan rom? But that one's not at 12.5 yet.
What about the China dev rom? Would it be possible to use as main rom, or is it too buggy?
Does this "debloatware" allow me to remove all the Google garbage? How does it work?
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K30 s ultra is the same except camera.(most recent rom)
i dont no about Taiwan
Indonesien rom is not interesting
For debloatware.
Just connect to the pc with usb debug active(Not all google/aaps/services)
Try you will be able to see the list of uninstallable or deactivable apps and services
Thanks again.
I looked around and found this guide on how to remove the excessive Google bloatware (and other bloatware) on Xiaomi:
Xiaomi Bloatware List | Remove Bloatware on MIUI 14/13/12
Find the list of safe-to-remove Xiaomi and MIUI bloatware. Learn how to uninstall system apps on MIUI 14, 13 & 12 via Xiaomi ADB/fastboot tools.
technastic.com
It doesn't require root, unlocking or anything else, so I think I'll try this first.
I'm sharing the link, in case this is interesting for others as well.
Momoko-hime said:
Thanks again.
I looked around and found this guide on how to remove the excessive Google bloatware (and other bloatware) on Xiaomi:
Xiaomi Bloatware List | Remove Bloatware on MIUI 14/13/12
Find the list of safe-to-remove Xiaomi and MIUI bloatware. Learn how to uninstall system apps on MIUI 14, 13 & 12 via Xiaomi ADB/fastboot tools.
technastic.com
It doesn't require root, unlocking or anything else, so I think I'll try this first.
I'm sharing the link, in case this is interesting for others as well.
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You haven't found anything new since it's the same program shown in my 1st post above.
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You haven't found anything new since it's the same program shown in my 1st post above.
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Yes, but just throwing me the program, without any guide or explanation, wasn't very helpful.
Also, saying something like, "try which apps you can remove, and if you remove the wrong apps and brick your phone, it's your fault" - that wasn't very helpful either.
The guide I posted shows how to remove the bloatware apps, and which are safe to remove, none of which was pointed out by you, and that's why I posted the link.
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Yes, but just throwing me the program, without any guide or explanation, wasn't very helpful.
Also, saying something like, "try which apps you can remove, and if you remove the wrong apps and brick your phone, it's your fault" - that wasn't very helpful either.
The guide I posted shows how to remove the bloatware apps, and which are safe to remove, none of which was pointed out by you, and that's why I posted the link.
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Even with this tool, you will not have the result of a Chinese rom,especially the features.
(At worst by removing everything, nothing works but it does not destroy the phone.)
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Even with this tool, you will not have the result of a Chinese rom,especially the features.
(At worst by removing everything, nothing works but it does not destroy the phone.)
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Yes, I know, but Chinese 12.5 rom for Mi 10T Pro / K30s isn't out yet, so I have to wait for it, and might just as well try this debloating in the meantime.
The guide tells you which bloatware is safe to remove, so no worries there.
Momoko-hime said:
Yes, I know, but Chinese 12.5 rom for Mi 10T Pro / K30s isn't out yet, so I have to wait for it, and might just as well try this debloating in the meantime.
The guide tells you which bloatware is safe to remove, so no worries there.
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China MIUI 12.5 V12.5.1.0.RJDCNXM STABLE
Recovery and Fastboot.
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This AOSP rom have a vanilla version.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/official-nusantaraproject-v3-0-11-06-2021-android-11.4250491/
NOSS8 said:
China MIUI 12.5 V12.5.1.0.RJDCNXM STABLE
Recovery and Fastboot.
or
This AOSP rom have a vanilla version.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/official-nusantaraproject-v3-0-11-06-2021-android-11.4250491/
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Oh, good. The download site you gave before didn't have 12.5 China rom.
Background Info -
I purchased my 16GB x 512GB Mi MIX Fold from a reputable supplier on Alibaba. It was claimed that he was capable of making it have a "Global" ROM (a 5 - 7 day process is how long it took him). All Google services and apps were preloaded, just like my first Xiaomi Global phone I purchased 1.5 years ago. As well as only some of the Xiaomi Global apps. Now that I have the phone, I am running into a fair bit of issues (in this post I am only focusing on one). I did bring these all up to the supplier (of course including updating the ROM issues), all without much help. All he gave me was he said the ROM on my phone is actually the EEA version that was modified, and of I need any updates, go on www.xiaomi.eu. So not much help, because come to find out, they don't support the Mi MIX Fold and that there is no ROMs available. Including the current ROM my phone has right now - V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global").
What is nice about my phone is that all the system apps are the Global versions. But what's not so great is the System Apps Updater does not work at all. It shows there are update(s) available for my Global apps, but when I update them, they are indefinitely suck at "Connecting 0%". I also tried Xiaomi's "Get Apps" while switching my Region to "India", it too showed updates, and would not update them no matter what I tried. So, I search online for each individual system app, and update each manually (yes, the whole process is a pain).
So Where I Need Some Help (The Purpose Of This Post...Updating the ROM) -
So, I am in the process of trying to update my phone's ROM, to get the best MIUI has to offer for the Mi MIX Fold. I have searched all over the internet and the only ROMs I can find are "China" versions.
My current ROM version is V12.0.11.0.RJTCNXM ("Global"). I know the most up to date ROM is V12.0.21.0.RJTCNXM (but it's the "China" version). I would like to have the current ROM, but I have a strong feeling that I will loose all functionality of all my Global system apps. The Xiaomi Updater app unfortunately does not work at all. When checking for an update, it says "No updates available". When tapping "Download latest package", it says "Can't download update...Wait a minute or two and try again". When I tap "What's new", it says "You don't have permission to access the update log...". Please see screenshots for all of this. I even tried to update it another traditional Xiaomi way by using Mi PC Suite, which it couldn't even detect my phone when connected. So that doesn't work either.
So my attempts are as follows (at least 20 attempts). I downloaded every Stable Recovery ROM version as listed in the XDA Mi MIX forum titles "MIUI Updates Tracker (Mi MIX Fold)" I also downloaded every ROM version from a couple other sources. I tried to update the ROM (from the newest version to the oldest) using the Xiaomi Updater app through Recovery Mode. Every time it failed saying "Current version is invalid. You can only flash the latest stable ROM", or "Can't verify update...Can't install official ROM". So then I downloaded the ROMs directly from mirror links to Xiaomi's server. I did the same update procedure, they all failed. Does that mean I have to do it via Fastboot?
Last Thoughts -
I included some screenshots showing what the ROM is on my phone (and the outdated Android security update), and what message comes up with each update attempt.
Could you guys point me in the right direction and help me figure out how I can update my Mi MIX Fold to the most current ROM, preferably the EEA version (if possible), since there really is no such thing as a Global version? I would be extremely appreciative if someone can shed some light!
Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Hi my suggestions is to backup your data firstly from there download the latest fastboot stable of the rom. From there before anything make sure oem unlocked is there inside your phone if not you need to wait 167 hours to fastboot flash the rom. Guides of unlocking is online you can search for that. After that, download the miflash.exe file, that can also be found online and from there flash it with it to the latest Rom . Hope that helps. If you are still unsure , you can always search online of "Flashing with fastboot xiaomi Rom"
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Thank you very much for your response!
OK, so it looks like I will have no choice but to get rid of the custom "Global" ROM for the China version. I do wonder though if I am going to lose out on anything as far as the Global system apps (but won't update, unless manually), or all the Google apps & services, or anything else. There of course are many benefits switching to the China ROM.
I'm just a little reluctant because of it being a China ROM being used on a phone in the US. And having features that only work in China and is not optimized for the Global market. As well as features usually found on a Global Xiaomi phone, would be missing or can't work at all. Maybe I am overthinking it all. Another concern is if the China ROM would have English as a language that can be choses. I assume so, but it would be a plus to know 100% before I make the plunge.
Only if I could play around with a Mi MIX Fold with a fresh install of the China ROM. See how different it really is compared to what I currently have. See what it comes with (apps & all) & what is or isn't compatible. My previous, & only Xiaomi phone, was the Global version of the Mi Note 10 Pro. So I have, I guess you can call it, a Xiaomi Global mindset. My Mi MIX Fold is my daily driver, I can't play too much around. Also if I do flash it with China ROM, I can't revert it back to the ROM it has now, since it seems to be custom. Unless I can somehow backup absolute everything, ROM and all.
I know this is a simple question, but what and how is the very best method to back everything up? To not only make sure no data is lost, but also to make the whole process faster when restoring everything.
Do you have any other suggestions or advice? I would appreciate it!
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
bom Dia, como consigo essa rom global?
Obrigado
anasmhds said:
The custom global rom is not official and you will never get update.
I recommend you to mi flash the chines rom, but you will lose everything.
Google will be available the chines ROM.
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Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
JazonX said:
Hey Anas,
Since you tried both Roms, which one would you recommend?
For UAE, does VoLTE work?
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Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
anasmhds said:
Chinese rom, yes VoLTE works
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Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
JazonX said:
Superb, Thanks a lot for the confirmation.
Im in discussion with a friend to buy one.. What do you use as your daily now?
Im bored with the current devices, and samsung fold is too common. So planning to take this.
Let me know which link you used for the Flash .. (The Rom)
Your response and support is much appreciated !
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Sold my mix Fold and replaced with Samsung fold 3 as the software of Samsung is better, but both are suitable only for office use not a daily driver.
I am using xiaomi 12 pro as a daily driver and planning to move to s22 ultra soon .
Did you find any solution to install Global ROM in Mi Mix Fold?
hello every one
i have Xiaomi Mix Fold 2 with chines rom how can to convert it to global rom ?