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[Q] Nandroid back up/Titanium backup questions

So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?

Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
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techdude54 said:
Nandroid is more like creating an image backup of your operating system, it backs up both your rom and apps. Titanium just backups app, their data and if you choose system settings.
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1
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In what situation would i use titanium back up with a rooted evo?

Titanium backs up your app and data from your phone. I am rooted and I use it when I need it, when I want to re install apps when I switch roms.
Using my HTC Evo phone which I'm using Xda app to post

evo4gfan said:
So what is the different between a nandroid backup and a backup using titanium backup? What is being saved with either? I hear using titanium back up is a "full" backup. What is titanium backup used for if you are already rooted...wouldn't you already have a custom recovery like amon ra or cwm?
If I do a nandroid back up on stock 2.2 rooted, can i do the same back up while I'm on a custom ROM? Where is this "backup" being saved to? Can i have multiple backups for different ROMS?
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Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.

honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?

evo4gfan said:
okay that makes sense. So whenever i flash a new rom, do I need to download titanium back (or MybackupPro) again on the new rom to get the data back? I can't locate the saved file from my sd card?
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Yes
Swyped from my EVO running CyanogenMod 6.1 RC 1

honeyBfly said:
Think of Nandroid Backup as a system restore point you would create on your PC and if for some reason you installed something on your PC and it makes your PC unstable, you can do a system restore and go back to when your PC was acting perfectly. (So for your EVO...you create a nandroid...messed around with your phone and screw everything up...Power up into bootloader (or reboot into recovery)...go into recovery and restore your nandroid backup)
Titanium is for you to back everything to your SD card right before you decide to WIPE DATA, CACHE & DALVIK/CACHE to flash a NEW ROM. After you flash the NEW ROM...your phone will be like a new phone you just received out of box...you have to set everything up on it. So instead of spending hours, you swill only spend a few minutes doing everything. 1st and foremost, sign back into Google Market, download Titanium and tell it to restore all apps...data, etc. Not sure if Titanium backups home and system stuff, I use Mybackup Pro and it does...it has everything configured the way I originally had it on the previous ROM...all I do is set up all my POP mail accounts and sign back into Twitter...Facebook...etc.
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I use Titanium Backup for backing up data and restoring it on a new ROM a lot. Before I flash a new ROM I always do a complete Titanium Backup and a nandroid backup. If the flash fails I restore from my nandroid backup and if the flash works I load my apps back with Titanium Backup (that way all my saved data on things like games is there and I don't have to start over).
I will caution against doing a restore of everything on a new ROM though (mostly a problem if you're going from something like a stock Evo based ROM to a AOSP ROM). I've had some issues when I restored a few system files (accounts database for example). If you stick with installable applications you shouldn't run into any trouble though (also I've had no problems restoring my call log and text message database).

When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.

Tuffgong4 said:
When you are in Titanium Backup, when you hit menu and select more you can create a flashable .zip so that after flashing a new rom or resetting the device you don't have to log into the market to reinstall. Makes life a lot easier.
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I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.

Titanium Backup

Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.

devcager said:
Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.
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When I do a full wipe for a new ROM, google/market will reinstall all the apps I had and I just restore the missing apps/games that I had settings or saves for. I'd recommend to do a full backup and try yourself to see what works for you.

do not make a system backup cause it'll give you only loads of fc. Backup only installed apps. You don't have to restore app by app if you have a titanium backup pro or donate than it's doing everything for you.

If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
I haven't used system yet but i'm guessing you could restore some of you system setting if you do a factory reset?

You can always use something like appbrain to sync you apps again, then use titanium backup just to restore the data.

venomrat said:
If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
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I do this after each full wipe and new rom - it's a single click batch operation using the free version of Ti.

[Q] Google Talk no longer functions after titanium restore

I swapped out Roms (went from Stock 4.0.4 to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4 to AOKP v25 4.0.3 and then back to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4) and then restored from a titanium backup, and now google talk will no longer function.
The whole reason I left the AOKP rom is because gtalk wasn't working, so I assumed it was an issue with the ROM.
I've tried uninstalling it (root uninstaller) and restoring it, I've tried wiping the data, deleting the cache, etc. Unfortunately, it's not available on the market, so the only way I can reinstall it is via my single titanium backup. Anyone have any ideas?

Why did you restore app and data when all you had to do was flash gapps? Especially gapps from different versions nevertheless.
Yeah, it isn't the rom but user error so it seems.

The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?

apols said:
The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?
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"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.

Well I just said screw it, and restored from a nandroid backup I had taken instead of the Titanium version and everything is working fine.

Geezer Squid said:
"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.
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Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!

apols said:
Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!
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You can restore apps + app data, but its really never a good idea to restore system data, especially as a batch restore. If you must restore them, you should be a little more selective.
TiBU restore can be useless for a lot of things, especially on something like Google Talk, where you get it automatically with a GAPPS flash and it restores everything for you when you sign in.

Pretty simple actually, if a restored app is problematic, DON'T restore... especially not gapps like gtalk....
Everyone told you the same thing and I was the first. somehow that offended you at first, ungrateful egoist sunflower in a greenhouse with a fragile emotional issues being butthurt over nothing more like it.

Backup When Going to New ROM?

I'm moving to the R4 release of Eugene's CM7 (From Jugg 5.0), and was wondering what the best way to backup my current data would be. Previously, I was forced to revert to Jugg 5.0 when multiple errors came up after trying to restore from TB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Medikay said:
I'm moving to the R4 release of Eugene's CM7 (From Jugg 5.0), and was wondering what the best way to backup my current data would be. Previously, I was forced to revert to Jugg 5.0 when multiple errors came up after trying to restore from TB. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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To backup your emails and contacts the best way is to use your gmail account. when you flash a new ROM it will ask you to sign in with your account and you will get all your emails and contacts back.
To get all your text messages and call logs back I use an app called SMS Backup +. It backs up all your SMS and MMS messages and call logs to your gmail account. After you flash a new ROM just press restore and they will all be back again.
To back up your user apps with data I use Titanium Backup and select the option to backup all user apps. This will back up all the apps you have downloaded with data included. Do not backup system apps with data because this may cause problems when flashing a new ROM. Once new ROM is flashed go back to Titanium backup and restore all apps with data.
You should be good to go.

Chochiwpg said:
To backup your emails and contacts the best way is to use your gmail account. when you flash a new ROM it will ask you to sign in with your account and you will get all your emails and contacts back.
To get all your text messages and call logs back I use an app called SMS Backup +. It backs up all your SMS and MMS messages and call logs to your gmail account. After you flash a new ROM just press restore and they will all be back again.
To back up your user apps with data I use Titanium Backup and select the option to backup all user apps. This will back up all the apps you have downloaded with data included. Do not backup system apps with data because this may cause problems when flashing a new ROM. Once new ROM is flashed go back to Titanium backup and restore all apps with data.
You should be good to go.
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Nandroid backups do this entirely however youb might experience issues with importing data such as applications. So of you just wanna keep a backup in case if emergency just do a nandroid, burbif you wanna carry over data from just do what Chochi suggested
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iLeopard said:
Nandroid backups do this entirely however youb might experience issues with importing data such as applications. So of you just wanna keep a backup in case if emergency just do a nandroid, burbif you wanna carry over data from just do what Chochi suggested
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As iLeopard said, always make a nandroid first. It will backup everything from the current ROM you are running. Just in case the new ROM doesn't work out for you or things don't run properly, just restore your nandroid and you are back to where you were before flashing the new ROM.

Chochiwpg said:
As iLeopard said, always make a nandroid first. It will backup everything from the current ROM you are running. Just in case the new ROM doesn't work out for you or things don't run properly, just restore your nandroid and you are back to where you were before flashing the new ROM.
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Doesn't making a full user apps + system data Titanium Backup do the same thing?

Medikay said:
Doesn't making a full user apps + system data Titanium Backup do the same thing?
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No, when you backup system data you are backing up everything on your system. All the widgets, wifi settings, gps etc etc. You only want to backup the apps you downloaded. If you backup system data it could conflict with settings in the new ROM when you try and restore.

Chochiwpg said:
No, when you backup system data you are backing up everything on your system. All the widgets, wifi settings, gps etc etc. You only want to backup the apps you downloaded. If you backup system data it could conflict with settings in the new ROM when you try and restore.
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Indeed. Personally I don't even recommend restoring applications. To ensure that you don't get any erros I suggest you download apps fresh from the play store

Titanium Backup will not restore from Nandroid backup. HTC One m9 Nougat, Rooted

I cannot restore any apps from my nandroid backup onto my phone using Titanium Backup.
It opens the Nandroid backup correctly, and i can select apps to restore
It than says "Processing" for a while, and then skips to the last app and then says "Restore completed successfully", but no apps have been restored.
I cannot find this issue anywhere
Any help is welcome

Same issue

Depends what your selecting vs what you have permissions to do. Rooted? S-off? Restoring system apps? Restoring system settings?. Some things are not allowed to be restored.
Deselect all system apps, system settings, google apps and htc apps. You might have better luck.
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shivadow said:
Depends what your selecting vs what you have permissions to do. Rooted? S-off? Restoring system apps? Restoring system settings?. Some things are not allowed to be restored.
Deselect all system apps, system settings, google apps and htc apps. You might have better luck.
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Rooted
Trying to restore regular user apps
Nandroid Manager restores the apps but without data for some reason

Im willing to pay someone for a solution. I think this problem is device related in some way.

rodman55 said:
Im willing to pay someone for a solution. I think this problem is device related in some way.
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The simplest way I found, make a TWRP backup of your current ROM, restore your nand-backup, from there make backups of the apps you need, then restore the TWRP backup of current configuration. From there u will be able to restore needed apps.
Or submit this bug to TB team and wait for a fix.

Fain11 said:
The simplest way I found, make a TWRP backup of your current ROM, restore your nand-backup, from there make backups of the apps you need, then restore the TWRP backup of current configuration. From there u will be able to restore needed apps.
Or submit this bug to TB team and wait for a fix.
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My nandroid backup is half corrupted... The backup of the apps inside it are fine tho.

Not working for me either, which is a disappointment. Any solutions?

cjkbarnett said:
I cannot restore any apps from my nandroid backup onto my phone using Titanium Backup.
It opens the Nandroid backup correctly, and i can select apps to restore
It than says "Processing" for a while, and then skips to the last app and then says "Restore completed successfully", but no apps have been restored.
I cannot find this issue anywhere
Any help is welcome
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Try to install different versions and everything will turn out ® Titanium Backup - {Mod edit: Link deleted. Oswald Boelcke}

Hi all, i never found a solution to the issue.
I assume by some huge coincidence that both of my backups (nandroid and Titanium backup) were both corrupt. I cut my losses and started fresh, and uses older backups where necessary

cjkbarnett said:
Hi all, i never found a solution to the issue.
I assume by some huge coincidence that both of my backups (nandroid and Titanium backup) were both corrupt. I cut my losses and started fresh, and uses older backups where necessary
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after changing from cm13 to 14.1 Titanium wasn´t able to restore any regular app .... i´ve saved the apk-files from /data/app... installed them...reboot...then TitaniumBackup recognized them...restore only DATA . .. everything fine....