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480p is nominally 640x480 (4:3), but if you look on Youtube, for example, you're not going to find many 480p videos that aren't 16:9, meaning 854x480 (Wikipedia lists that as a valid 480p resolution among several).
Is there a way to either change what 480p is in the camera menu or add a 480p (16:9) selection?
The other resolutions, 720p and 1080p, are 16:9, of course, but I don't always want to squander that much space when the quality isn't needed.
The answer to your question would be no. All of your video would be either sqaushed or stretched.
720 & 1080 are native 16:9 formats. They can be down converted to fit 4:3 and if it was filmed properly it will still look good because the camera man protected 4:3 boundaries while shooting 16:9.
If youve ever seen a 16:9 movie on an old 4:3 tv you will notice that its letter boxed and down converted to fit the screen.
Most consumer and prosumer cameras are 16:9 by default now because all of the displays on the market can show that content properly.
I don't follow your first sentence. I can understand the phone simply not being capable of doing it (I'm still hoping that's not the case, since 3rd-party ROMs often can do wonders), but if it could, then I don't see what the problem would be recording 16:9 480p (854x480). I would even think that it would be more popular than 4:3 480p.
Also, I have to think that 16:9 480p is quite common, since how else can so many 480p videos on Youtube be 16:9 (and these are often videos that top out at 480p, so they're not down-converted from something higher)? Phones are by far the most common video recorders, yet I can't recall the last time I saw vertical black bars on Youtube (what you get with 640x480).
So when using the Slimport adapter with the Nexus 7, the 1920x1200 16:10 image is scaled down to a 1728x1080 16:10 image.
The 1728x1080 image is displayed on a 1080p 16:9 TV with black "pillars" on the left and right sides.
For me, this is completely undesirable.
I am hoping that there is a custom rom out there that offers more slimport output options.
Such as:
-Changing the Android workspace to 1920x1080. Letter boxing on the tablet and pixel perfect on the TV.
-Changing the Android workspace to 1920x1080. Vertical stretching on the tablet and pixel perfect on the TV.
-Retaining the Android workspace at 1200p. Vertically squashing the TV image to 16:9 for a 1080p image with distorted aspect ratio with no black bars. (distorted AR can be reversed with many Video player apps and Picture viewer apps).
Any of those is more desirable to a 1728x1080p pillar boxed output. Any help on the issue would be greatly apreciated.
I've posted a feature request on google groups, asking them to consider adding more output resolution options to Android. http://productforums.google.com/forum/?hl=en+#!category-topic/mobile/android-devices/cgKZEwu4CZg
Downscaling 1920x1200 to 1728x1080 involves un-even averaging of pixels on both the horizontal and vertical. Out of the many other ptotential options for display output, this has to be the worst.
I agree with you guys, there should be a better solution.
I have a 1920x1200 monitor, which is perfect for 1:1 direct output, but the N7 2013 still output at 1728x1080. It does not look good, especially when watching videos. The downsizing also causes a visible performance drop, there is a slight lag when interacting with the UI.
Found this while having the same issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45005807&postcount=25
CooperC said:
Found this while having the same issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45005807&postcount=25
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Awesome, thanks!
I tried screenshots in Album; Video; & MX Player Pro using different codecs & 4K videos and all, but all came out in 1080p.
Not sure if it was supposed to be in 4K though.
So, how can we be sure that 4K content is being correctly?
Thanks.
The screen is 1080p by default, so if you take a screenshot, it will be a 1080p image displayed.
If there are sufficent pixels to push either in image or video format however, the device will push them up to 4K.
For example, if you find an image or video with at least 3840 × 2160 pixels, it will be shown in that resolution. View them via the Album, or Video apps (I'm not sure about third party apps).
If you do a Google image search for 4K wallpapers, you can try...
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
slayerz said:
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Android 5.1 Lollipop DOES NOT support 4K natively. The system can't therefore produce 4K screenshots, and thus 1080p. The reason why it's not 2k res on the screenshots like Galaxy Note 5 is because Sony chose that the system should run on 1080p and not 2K.
slayerz said:
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Doh!
That's the problem. You are taking a screenshot in 4K mode... the screenshot is not taken in 4K resolution however, it is a 1080 screenshot, so it will obviously show as 1080.
You just have to take it on trust that 4K content is screened in 4K. You convert it back to 1080 when you take a screenshot of it though
@KbaB.BroS Thanks, I was reading about that limitation yesterday. Guess I'll need to wait for Android M! @nobnut I'm specially concerned about custom roms breaking the 4K functionality! Can't really trust 'em!
P.S.
I'm running RomAur btw, it's superb, except for some random reboots.
There's a kernel which restores DRM-tied functions as well, for unlocked bootloaders.
Your eyes may not be able to tell the difference. Basically, in album app, when you open an image, it'll be 1080p and after about 1-3 seconds, it'll crossfade into 4K. It's easier to spot with small text and on eyes.
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Your eyes may not be able to tell the difference. Basically, in album app, when you open an image, it'll be 1080p and after about 1-3 seconds, it'll crossfade into 4K. It's easier to spot with small text and on eyes.
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@CLShortFuse There is no 'crossfade' with Image Enhancements off, at least on my end. Can't be sure if it's because of the switch.
slayerz said:
@CLShortFuse There is no 'crossfade' with Image Enhancements off, at least on my end. Can't be sure if it's because of the switch.
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. With or without X-Reality, you should see a change. Take a look at the sample photos by Yu Takae. The text on the bottom right should look clearer after a few seconds when 4K kicks in. When you swipe to change picture, it renders are 1080p. After a few seconds you should see things clearer.
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. With or without X-Reality, you should see a change. Take a look at the sample photos by Yu Takae. The text on the bottom right should look clearer after a few seconds when 4K kicks in. When you swipe to change picture, it renders are 1080p. After a few seconds you should see things clearer.
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I don't think the difference is FHD -> 4K transition, because you can clearly see the text even on a standard 1080p screen. I think the phone loads a light preview (the one used in the gallery?) and after that it loads the full image. It can be for being fast when you scroll pics. I made some tests with my old Z3 and default pictures of the Z5p.
And, btw, if you swipe between pictures it always reload like that. But if I'm in gallery it should be 4K always, no need to change the res.
Not as clear as when it switches to 4K. You don't need a second phone to test, just use another image app like Google Photos.
Take a look at this:
https://youtu.be/kEMmKu4tYWI
Skip to 2minutes in.
The way you know if 4k videos are working is to press play on the 4k video then 'pinch zoom' once and you'll see the quality (you can do this with any videos anyways)
Also the 4k logo in album in the bottom corner means the video is 4k. And the battery will drain more playing a 4k video then a normal 360p 540p 720p and 1080p video (because 4k bit rate is higher - hence more processing)
SocketMix said:
The way you know if 4k videos are working is to press play on the 4k video then 'pinch zoom' once and you'll see the quality (you can do this with any videos anyways)
Also the 4k logo in album in the bottom corner means the video is 4k. And the battery will drain more playing a 4k video then a normal 360p 540p 720p and 1080p video (because 4k bit rate is higher - hence more processing)
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But even in Lollipop is possible to watch videos in 4K?
I want the videos both YouTube and non-YouTube, to be able to use the notch space as in iPhone X. Are there any settings that I have overlooked that needs to be tweaked to get what I need?
You have to "zoom" with two of your fingers into the video
You must do it like if you zoom into a normal picture.
Iphone screens is 18:9
A2 Lite screen is 19:9
so videos will never use 'full' notch screen
(This works only on YouTube)
1.You need to have installed Android Pie (Gsi)
2.Open some YouTube video
3."Zoom" with two fingers on the video
I tried changing aspect ratios but it doesnt help/make the picture bigger
I saw a thread that someone recommended to use samsung internet video player but I am unable to play netflix
Any suggestions how to get the best out of content for the fold 4? I know you can pinch and zoom but it cuts out so much that might as well not watch as you miss so many details
Maybe somehow hack the custom res?
Thanks
mentalpositivity said:
I tried changing aspect ratios but it doesnt help/make the picture bigger
I saw a thread that someone recommended to use samsung internet video player but I am unable to play netflix
Any suggestions how to get the best out of content for the fold 4? I know you can pinch and zoom but it cuts out so much that might as well not watch as you miss so many details
Maybe somehow hack the custom res?
Thanks
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unfortunatly no. only way is zooming in which will eat half of the video. the aspect ration is a hige draw back for consuming media on fold series
eswar539 said:
unfortunatly no. only way is zooming in which will eat half of the video. the aspect ration is a hige draw back for consuming media on fold series
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I hoped someone figured out a way to make it better besides cutting half the video to fill lol
And now you know how we felt in the early 2k's when 16:9 became a thing and we still had our 4:3 CRT's. Letterbox is annoying.
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And now you know how we felt in the early 2k's when 16:9 became a thing and we still had our 4:3 CRT's. Letterbox is annoying.
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yes, any workaround?
Not a lot you can do, making something that's 16:9 sit nicely on a 4:3 display has never been pretty, but if you enable flex panel mode on Netflix, and only use the top half of the display it fills that.
Other than that just ignore the black unused areas, still getting a decent size playback area after all, and oled, so black uses no energy...
Run Netflix in pop-up mode, make it fill the width of your screen and adjust the height to fit the image, then use the rest of your screen for another app
You really can't without making things worse IMHO.
It's like owning a 4:3 TV and using a pan/scan simulator so the screen is filled.
You just cut off too much!
You get used to the bars, I still prefer this format for everything else!
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You really can't without making things worse IMHO.
It's like owning a 4:3 TV and using a pan/scan simulator so the screen is filled.
You just cut off too much!
You get used to the bars, I still prefer this format for everything else!
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thanks a lot
To me, this could be simple to solve if the zoom/pinch have 2 or more levels because the single zoom level avalizable is just too much and results in a heavily cropped imagem, but, with intermediate zoom levels, one can control how much screen space is used to content and who much image is cropped out...
I've been watching all of my locally stored media files on an app called SVplayer. It has an option called "black bars outer lighting". This will fill in the black bars of your display, if the video does not match the aspect ratio of your device . This effect is most commonly used on social media and vertically shot videos that are shown on news broadcasts. I then zoom into the video about 25 to 30%. which makes the top and bottom lighting bars less apparent. In my opinion, this is the best compromise and is honestly the only reason why I ended up buying a Galaxy Fold 4. I couldn't enjoy videos with such prominent black bars on everything I watch.
Wiki page of the app and feature. https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:Outer_lighting
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I've been watching all of my locally stored media files on an app called SVplayer. It has an option called "black bars outer lighting". This will fill in the black bars of your display, if the video does not match the aspect ratio of your device . This effect is most commonly used on social media and vertically shot videos that are shown on news broadcasts. I then zoom into the video about 25 to 30%. which makes the top and bottom lighting bars less apparent. In my opinion, this is the best compromise and is honestly the only reason why I ended up buying a Galaxy Fold 4. I couldn't enjoy videos with such prominent black bars on everything I watch.
Wiki page of the app and feature. https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:Outer_lighting
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ye I dont have much locally stored video files, mostly youtube or streaming services or str8 from the browser