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Hi guys,
Here's a detailed review about the HTC Touch Pro2.
It's in Dutch, but even if you can't read it (or perhaps use Google Translator) you'll enjoy looking at the pics.
There are three demo videos showing the interface and multimedia, and the proof that the AC T110 TV out cable will work (the original Touch Pro cable).
Link to the review.
Awesome! Thanks for the tip!
heres the link for the englis translation via google
http://translate.google.com/transla...opic.php?t=80&f=9&sl=nl&tl=en&history_state0=
Thanks great review!
pretty good review. Handles almost 90% of the things I wan't to know about the phone
informative review...keep them coming!
hey, check out this video in case you want to see the sprint mogul vs the TP2:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5a7p20
1280x720 @ 60fps! make sure you can handle the playback!
now w/ Youtube HD link! (only 30fps though)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwqaGumWJgQ
There is no info about the FM radio??? It seems missing in the TP2
ed_bracam said:
There is no info about the FM radio??? It seems missing in the TP2
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Radio or not, man, I want this phone and I will go buy it if it's available tomorrow. So fast and smooth. Sounds great too! I can do without the radio.
2 questions....
1. In that review, it said it comes with ultra clear screen protector. do you really think it will come with one or will i have to buy one separately?
2. Question about the accelerometer. when you pull the keyboard out the screen switches to landscape mode. Do you think if you just turn the phone sideways that the screen will turn to landscape mode (with the keyboard closed)????
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2 questions....
1. In that review, it said it comes with ultra clear screen protector. do you really think it will come with one or will i have to buy one separately?
2. Question about the accelerometer. when you pull the keyboard out the screen switches to landscape mode. Do you think if you just turn the phone sideways that the screen will turn to landscape mode (with the keyboard closed)????
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1. Yes for sure. All my HTC phones came with screen protectors.
2. No, you will need a tweak to switch the home screen to landscape mode by turning the phone. Some software will work by turning the phone but not the home screen.
That's stupid that they advertise it has a accelerometer since you have to open the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. i bought the htc tilt when it first came out for at&t and I'm pretty sure that it didn't come with a screen protector. You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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That's stupid that they advertise it has a accelerometer since you have to open the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. i bought the htc tilt when it first came out for at&t and I'm pretty sure that it didn't come with a screen protector. You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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Huh? what do you mean? In what way would landscape mode be USEFUL with the keyboard not open? I don't understand. In the browser, with the keyboard closed, you should be able to rotate the phone and the screen will rotate...also with photos, and anything else you need to do in landscape...but a landscape switch for TouchFlo3D without the keyboard out is kinda pointless, no?
I don't mean to start a massive fight about it, but I don't want my phone rotating touch flo like crazy just because I am holding the phone a certain way. What if I am gesturing towards something with the TouchPro2 in my hand and when I bring my hand back, everything is all landscape and I have to wait for it to rotate back?
I don't think this is dumb, and I feel it can easily be fixed with just a software tweak. Shouldn't be hard at all...although I do not understand what you would need it for.
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That's stupid that they advertise it has a accelerometer since you have to open the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. i bought the htc tilt when it first came out for at&t and I'm pretty sure that it didn't come with a screen protector. You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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No...Your idea is more stupid. like NeoDMD said, I dont want my home screen rotating everytime I move. It is useful for certain applications but definitely not the home screen.!
hopefully the transition between home screen and landscape mode is very fast, hopefully no load time
so like some applications will take you into landscape mode even if you have the keyboard closed like it you played a video or went into camera mode right or even internet browser?
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You said all your htc phones did? Did you buy the tilt?
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Nope. I don't have the TILT, but my P3600i and HD came with one. I know the TD2, Cruise and Cruise 2 also comes with one. So I presume most of them will. Maybe they didn't give it to you or it was stolen from your box
BTW, I saw the video on the TV-Out part and there was some flickering near the end of the movie where they were using coreplayer. Does anyone know what he is talking about and why it is flickering like mad?
Many thanks!
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Huh? what do you mean? In what way would landscape mode be USEFUL with the keyboard not open? ... but a landscape switch for TouchFlo3D without the keyboard out is kinda pointless, no?
I don't mean to start a massive fight about it, but I don't want my phone rotating touch flo like crazy just because I am holding the phone a certain way.
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I believe the point would be to be able read it comfortably while holding it in landscape. Why would I need the keyboard open to use TF3d? And why wouldn't I want to use TF3D in landscape mode? I'm going to be reading, watching vids, and browsing in landscape mode. Do I have to rotate back to portrait every single time I go back into TF3D?
I don't understand. In the browser, with the keyboard closed, you should be able to rotate the phone and the screen will rotate...also with photos, and anything else you need to do in landscape...
What if I am gesturing towards something with the TouchPro2 in my hand and when I bring my hand back, everything is all landscape and I have to wait for it to rotate back?
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Isn't that still a problem for other apps? Like the browser etc. If you're willing to accept the problem there, what's so crazy about someone else being willing to risk it everywhere?
I don't think this is dumb, and I feel it can easily be fixed with just a software tweak. Shouldn't be hard at all...although I do not understand what you would need it for.
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Honestly what'd I like more than accelerometer detection is the ability to fix everything in landscape (although I could stand the phone app being in portrait) permanently. Portrait is next to useless to me. I'm new to winmo, but do you think someone will/has tweak(ed) it that way? Or is there a control panel setting?
I am too a bit disappointed that the homescreen landscape choice isn't there from the factory (without the kb open)
How do we use this phone in the car in a holder while using it also as an GPS device. I would have to use a holder that can hold it kb out or then i'd need a rotating holder to flip it every time i go out of the GPS. Not a big pain, but still.
How about a button (on the screen) to make it flip to landscape (similar to the one that triggers the phone when the kb is open)
Hey everyone. I was using the camera app the other day, and it got me thinking that it would be incredibly convenient and practical to be able to use the volume rocker to take pictures instead of the optical trackpad. I've done a bit of searching, and I haven't seen anything about this in the Incredible forum, so if anyone has a solution or idea, feel free to let me know!
I agree. The optical jog is terrible. Almost impossible to hold the camera steady and use it.
marcmarshall said:
I agree. The optical jog is terrible. Almost impossible to hold the camera steady and use it.
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Ditto.
Maybe even be able to rotate the camera app so the volume buttons are in the traditional location of the shutter button.
its like one of three things i miss about my blackberry storm. the camera button, the way that profiles and settings were consolidated into one space, and batch actions for messages (delete all, mark all unread, etc)
i hope that someone comes up with something for this. especially allowing camera to rotate would be great.
Camera zoom fx
Check it out in the android market
It works great.
yujikaido79 said:
Check it out in the android market
It works great.
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Check what out?
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Check what out?
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its in the title of his post, which doesn't show up in most places except the main forum....camera zoom fx i think it was?
Hello Everybody,
I'm developing an android application which uses the front camera.
As the Android SDK doesn't supoprt it natively, I need to fint the register name which tells the system to use the front camera. Unfortunately, I do not know how this parameter is called. Does anyone can help me?
btw, As I do not have an HTC Evo If anybody can help me by testing my app on its HTC evo, it will helps me a lot.
Many thanks in advance,
Best regards.
ill test if you tell me what the app does/is for
chikenkilr said:
btw, As I do not have an HTC Evo If anybody can help me by testing my app on its HTC evo, it will helps me a lot.
Many thanks in advance,
Best regards.
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All I could think of was some of the CraigsList replies I get that want my item shipped to Africa.
GL with your app, hope it's a fun one, not enough stuff uses the front camera yet.
Hi,
many thanks for your answer and your help.
My app is quite simple, it acts as a mirror by displaying the front camera in full screen (it crops left and right parts of the picture in order to maximise the picture surface.
My app is avaiblable in the android market under the name : MagicMirror-Lite
I get some feedbacks that my app does work on Evo devices.
Before adding other features (such as zoom and so on), I would like to get first quite a reliable app which works on most of terminals (which have a front camera of course).
Pao23 said:
GL with your app, hope it's a fun one, not enough stuff uses the front camera yet.
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I think the same, but as there is no explicit command in the android SDK which allows to use the front camera, I first need to get a reliable way to use front cams.
chikenkilr said:
Hi,
many thanks for your answer and your help.
My app is quite simple, it acts as a mirror by displaying the front camera in full screen (it crops left and right parts of the picture in order to maximise the picture surface.
My app is avaiblable in the android market undre the name : MagicMirror-Lite
I get some feedbacks that my app does work on Evo devices.
Before adding other features (such as zoom and so on), I would like to get first quite a reliable app which works on most of terminals (which have a front camera of course).
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I like that bro im in on that! Givein that app a go thanx!!
Sent from my 1.2 HP EVO
explicit command in the android SDK which allows to use the front camera
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The Cyanogen team has the front facing commands figured out.
Also, these guys do too http://www.popcrowd.com/
Maybe one would be willing to share or you could take a peak at their code.
Hi everybody,
Many thanks for your inputs.
If I made everything right, my application should now work on Sprint devices.
I uploaded a new version of the application. So, if you can test it on yours, it will be very helpful for me.
Cheers!
It uses the main camera on the EVO not the front one like you want.
Sorry.
Image is also turned 90 degrees...
For the rotation this is normal as the rear camera is rotated to 90° compared to the front camera (in order to use the rear camera in landscape mode and the front camera in portrait mode).
Ok well it still uses the wrong camera.
Looks promsing though.
Many thanks,
and before adding more sexy-features (like pinch zoom, or picture grabbing...) I want first to make sure my app is compatible with most mobile devices.
(If you have features ideas, do not hesitate )
Cool.
I'll test it again once you see about using the front camera.
I think I found what was wrong,
in the manifest file, I added:
<uses-library android:name="com.sprint.hardware.twinCamDevice" android:required="false"/>
I hope that this will make the things goes right for Sprint users without generating bugs for non-Sprint users.
how about make a video chat app that works all the time
chikenkilr said:
I think I found what was wrong,
in the manifest file, I added:
<uses-library android:name="com.sprint.hardware.twinCamDevice" android:required="false"/>
I hope that this will make the things goes right for Sprint users without generating bugs for non-Sprint users.
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It works with the front camera now but you still need to rotate the image 90degress. I don't see why anyone would want a mirror that the reflection is sideways!
You're completely right, if picture is rotated, it is completely useless. ^^
What is that for the samsung Epic, picture owns the right orientation.
Futhermore, picture should be distorded on your Evo device?
Last question, I must rotate picture in clockwise or in counter-clockwise?
It works on my evo
You need to rotate image 90 degrees clockwise...no matter how I turned the phone the imageit displayed was turned facing 9 o'clock...
Keep working at it!
Swyped from an HTC Evo on MetroPCS...
Yep, me too. The top of my head points to the left no matter how I hold the camera. It 'IS' working with the front camera though.
I'm just beginning to test the front facing camera on my Evo too with some code. I 'think' I read that the Sprint library has to be included in the manifest (to enable the front camera); however, they say the app will not load on phones that don't have this library. that seems pretty severe. Anyone tested that out ?
It would be nice to make apps that use the front camera if possible but still use the regular cam if the front one's not available.
Hi rufus,
Yes the library must be loaded, but, as I mentioned above, you must add the :"android:required="false". So if the library exists, it will be loaded and if not, it doesn't mattre. But you need to add in your source a test to check if the library exists or not. It is explained in the sprint sdk.
Ok I'll add a test on my program add add a rotation if detected phoe is an HTC evo.
Is the ratio of the picture ok or not?
The ratio of the picture is good, but I assume once it's rotated 90 degrees, it wont' be. It's still rotated 90 counterclockwise...the top of my head is at the left.
Will the play be getting face unlock via ics or is there a gingerbread version of it anywhere?
Probably yes, the problem is that this feature can be cheated by simply scanning a picture of you on facebook or a paper photograph. Makes the app quite useless in my opinion.
Depends on what you want. If the security is to keep out casual snoopers then it's good. If you keep nuclear secrets on your phone owning an xperia play was probably the wrong choice.
Thankfully for me I don't and I don't hand out free photographs of my face so it's sufficient. Then again I also use the swipe pattern which is even easier to crack then face unlock. Each to their own really.
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Also with the poor resolution on the front facing camera it would be pretty hard to unlock your phone in dark places.
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Also with the poor resolution on the front facing camera it would be pretty hard to unlock your phone in dark places.
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This. ^
I used to have an app that required your face to unlock an app, you need great lighting.
Cl8rs said:
This. ^
I used to have an app that required your face to unlock an app, you need great lighting.
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The app was called Visidon App Lock
And you need light lighting or sunlight to get it to reconize anything, so I would assume the ICS Face Unlock feature will be the same.
A way around the picture scanning thing would be to unlock the phone with a stupid expression. As for the light...don't know
Sent from my Xperia Play
The only reason we would not get it is if Sony Ericsson think it may challenge their beloved Arc which has no Front facing camera.
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Will the play be getting face unlock via ics or is there a gingerbread version of it anywhere?
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I just downloaded an app called "FaceRecog PhoneLOCK" i will try it out and report back with what i find.
**UPDATE: It seems to work, but you do need pretty good lighting, and if you wear glasses, you will have to take them off, or the app wont be able to find your eyes.**
I recently upgraded to 4.2.1(ParanoidAndroid 2.9.9) and the new camera(which I assume is the standard Google 4.2 camera) is very basic, and very weak compared to what I had. The old camera(which was also Google stock) had a lot of filters built in, and some hilarious distortions such as "Big Eyes" and "Big Head". My kids LOVE those. They are now gone, as is most of the awesome functionality I had. In it's place is Photo Spheres which I personally consider useless. Is there a way to get my old camera back? I don't want to be stuck on 4.1.1 forever but I hate this new camera!
Landara said:
I recently upgraded to 4.2.1(ParanoidAndroid 2.9.9) and the new camera(which I assume is the standard Google 4.2 camera) is very basic, and very weak compared to what I had. The old camera(which was also Google stock) had a lot of filters built in, and some hilarious distortions such as "Big Eyes" and "Big Head". My kids LOVE those. They are now gone, as is most of the awesome functionality I had. In it's place is Photo Spheres which I personally consider useless. Is there a way to get my old camera back? I don't want to be stuck on 4.1.1 forever but I hate this new camera!
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You can install camera ICS from the market. The layout isn't exactly the same ( I assume it's mimicking the ICS camera layout) but it will give you back the filters, funny faces. And yes I wondered the same thing why did google remove them. Kids get tonnes of laughs out of those. I'd love to know how those decisions are made... 'Hey you know those features we've had in the wild for over a year? Yeah let's remove them'
my exact thoughts also, when i had the 16gb nexxy i updated and was VERY annoyed to find the effects deleted, so much it was one of the "cons" that pushed me into refunding for a non-updated 32gb version
im still 4.1 now lol i seriously dont understand why google would :
A: release nexus 7 without a camera app.....(yea i do know why but lame excuse)
B: when you update to 4.2 it deletes any camera app and replaces it with dah dah duh daaaaa a broken one with non-working photosphere.....wtf?
sooooooo mmmmm yeah ill remember this thread when i come to updating
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B: when you update to 4.2 it deletes any camera app and replaces it with dah dah duh daaaaa a broken one with non-working photosphere.....wtf?
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Removing those "cute" functions is one thing, but how is the 4.2 camera "broken"?
khaytsus said:
Removing those "cute" functions is one thing, but how is the 4.2 camera "broken"?
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Well I assume he meant the PhotoSphere which as best I can tell is not functioning correctly. I have not yet gotten it to work at all.
How come i didn't get a camera? I'm on PA 2.99 beta 6.
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Well I assume he meant the PhotoSphere which as best I can tell is not functioning correctly. I have not yet gotten it to work at all.
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Because it's not supported for front facing cameras? That's not broken, that's design.
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Because it's not supported for front facing cameras? That's not broken, that's design.
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First of all, the app doesn't know which way your camera is facing, nor does it care. Second, I didn't even try it on my Nexus 7, I tried it multiple times on my Galaxy Nexus. Still broken. Never got a decent result. You may say it's operator error, but that's a ridiculous statement as well because it's pretty self explanatory.
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Because it's not supported for front facing cameras? That's not broken, that's design.
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ok so look basically it would be very stupid putting diesel into a petrol as it wouldn't work......
acer made it to remove any cam app we had previously then installed a app exactly the same but without the working effects, .... only 1 broken one..photosphere,
saying that its supposed to only work with a front face cam....well then why go to the trouble of jacking our old app and putting one with a feature we cant use......? :good:
Just saying, the app does know which way the camera faces... I assume something in the data for the camera tells the app its front facing. This is probably useful for apps such as Skype too.
When you try photo sphere, it says sorry not supported with front camera.
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Element515 said:
Just saying, the app does know which way the camera faces... I assume something in the data for the camera tells the app its front facing. This is probably useful for apps such as Skype too.
When you try photo sphere, it says sorry not supported with front camera.
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the strange thing is, you would think panoramic shot wouldnt work, yet in the cam effects pre-4.2 you can use panoramic efect albeit frontcam only, it did work thou.
i think photsphere from front cam, while your in the middle of the shot with the world spinning around you would be a great effect anyways.
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ok so look basically it would be very stupid putting diesel into a petrol as it wouldn't work......
acer made it to remove any cam app we had previously then installed a app exactly the same but without the working effects, .... only 1 broken one..photosphere,
saying that its supposed to only work with a front face cam....well then why go to the trouble of jacking our old app and putting one with a feature we cant use......? :good:
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You lost me at "Acer". And I hope you realize this is a general "4.2 Google Apps" statement, not something Asus did.