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Problems with the Mi Max?

Hi, I'm thinking about getting the Mi Max and I'm hoping you would be able to answer some of my questions.
1. I heard there are some connectivity issues.
2. Does is have gorilla glass 3 or 4?
3. Does it bend?
4. Is the build quality good?
5. How durable is it?
Are the any more issues that are not listed on here?
Cheers,
Jeff

What exactly do you mean by "Does it bend"? Is there any phone that does that by design? How can a phone made of metal possibly bend & still work? If I'm reading this right, you need a belt pouch for this phone, if thats what you are asking. Keeping this phone in the pocket is not a great idea. Although I dint find any difficulty so far except when getting in & out of my jean pockets when inside the car.
I kept reading & hearing about these connectivity issues but never experienced it right from day one. When you get an android phone just do a factory reset, if possible twice.
Read my detailed comparison review over @ http://c.mi.com/in/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10869&page=1&extra=#pid149561
Forget the gorilla 3/4/5 nonsense. I'd say just get it esp the 64 or 128GB Helium instead of the 32GB Hydrogen.
Its a steal for the performance & battery combo that this phone gives you. Tempered glass is not easily available atleast in India but easily procured online via ebay or aliexpress or gearbest.
The only issue on this phone is VoLTE(works only on MIUI so far) & MIUI itself regardless of whether 7, 8 or 9. So far I found RR5.7.3 to be the most stable & best performer followed by CM13-6.0.1(other than the few reboots i experienced while navigating via Maps/Waze/Here, its pretty stable). VoLTE works only on MIUI which sucks donkeys balls & has too many usability issues & bugs to be a daily driver. Its a great phone all around. I got around the VoLTE issue by using a modem which can route my calls & data via an app & happily use RR5.7.3. If I have to use VoLTE on the phone then I'll put it on sMIUI8 on my Kenzo. MIUI, while it has its good parts & moments, is too ****ty & downright irritating overall to be put on my dear Hydrogen.
P.S. I'm buying a Helium next. Its better to stock up on this phone. Such good hardware is hard to come by. Since Kenzo also has official CM support, its only a matter of time before hydrogen/helium also makes it to the official list. After that its gonna be RR or AICP all the way to never look back again.

What's the difference between helium and hydrogen?

romdroid. said:
What's the difference between helium and hydrogen?
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Common, read some please.

veerragavan.n said:
What exactly do you mean by "Does it bend"? Is there any phone that does that by design? How can a phone made of metal possibly bend & still work? If I'm reading this right, you need a belt pouch for this phone, if thats what you are asking. Keeping this phone in the pocket is not a great idea. Although I dint find any difficulty so far except when getting in & out of my jean pockets when inside the car.
I kept reading & hearing about these connectivity issues but never experienced it right from day one. When you get an android phone just do a factory reset, if possible twice.
Read my detailed comparison review over @ http://c.mi.com/in/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=10869&page=1&extra=#pid149561
Forget the gorilla 3/4/5 nonsense. I'd say just get it esp the 64 or 128GB Helium instead of the 32GB Hydrogen.
Its a steal for the performance & battery combo that this phone gives you. Tempered glass is not easily available atleast in India but easily procured online via ebay or aliexpress or gearbest.
The only issue on this phone is VoLTE(works only on MIUI so far) & MIUI itself regardless of whether 7, 8 or 9. So far I found RR5.7.3 to be the most stable & best performer followed by CM13-6.0.1(other than the few reboots i experienced while navigating via Maps/Waze/Here, its pretty stable). VoLTE works only on MIUI which sucks donkeys balls & has too many usability issues & bugs to be a daily driver. Its a great phone all around. I got around the VoLTE issue by using a modem which can route my calls & data via an app & happily use RR5.7.3. If I have to use VoLTE on the phone then I'll put it on sMIUI8 on my Kenzo. MIUI, while it has its good parts & moments, is too ****ty & downright irritating overall to be put on my dear Hydrogen.
P.S. I'm buying a Helium next. Its better to stock up on this phone. Such good hardware is hard to come by. Since Kenzo also has official CM support, its only a matter of time before hydrogen/helium also makes it to the official list. After that its gonna be RR or AICP all the way to never look back again.
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Thanks for the reply.

OK. After a few months, I've one more gripe, with the Mi Max, is its sun light visibility which leaves a lot to be desired in bright sunlight even in winter. Ok forget the winter sunglare, even fluorescent light is causing a reflection. I dint notice it at all but after I recieved the Kenzo its become very apparent although not debilitating its hard to miss or not notice or feel the difference in visibility between the kenzo & hydrogen. I still standby my earlier post though. This is the only phone that can blast though the day with almost everything switched on including mild hotspot usage, it'll still get you though the day. Without hotspot you've to slowcharge it either through the night or fastcharge it in the morning. Thats how good this phone's battery backup is. I use navigation everytime i get into the car. So my GPS is always on while travel{navigating} except perhaps when I'm travelling by cab. So Helium is next in the list but only when they release the Global Dev version though.
With the sad demise of sMIUI, Now the only solution/option is xiaomi.eu if you want VoLTE. I want call record & autosync with cloud more than anything. VoLTE is just a bonus. So any Xiaomi phone I unlock ASAP & move to xiaomi.eu or GlobeROM(mi-globe.com) [which is based of xiaomi.eu BTW].

Why Redmi 5 Plus is my last Xiaomi phone ever ?

After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough.
Once i had Redmi 3S, Redmi 4X, then Redmi 5 Plus. I don't think i will buy a new one and here's why.
1) Well, they had great specs for their price, but they compromise durability by using cheap, weak and low-series aluminum to make their phones. That's why Mi5 and Redmi Note 3 failed Jerry's durability test. Basically, these are one drop phones. Europe is used to durable phones like Nokia, LG or Sony.
2) Software. My Redmi 3s had MIUI 7 out of the box, so i disabled some google poop i don't use and then updated to MIUI 8, unexpectedly bricking my phone for next 3 days until i was allowed to unlocked the bootloader, which was necessary to re-flash the device. MIUI 8 was great, had alot of features and MIUI 9 made things faster, but... My annoyance level is similar to dealing with Meizu phones. Some themes make unwanted changes to my home screen layout. Messenger notifications are quiet, just silent pop sound instead of normal messenger sound when screen is locked and off. On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.

JakeCherry97 said:
2) On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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I don't have any problem with YouTube
Also not have those ads on system apps. Maybe it's something from 3rd party app...
About themes app is something about new laws on European Union. Not have to keep region changed. Change to download and apply theme and then change it back to your country.

Actually, the Redmi 5 plus passed the bend test. Also I don't see any ads on mine, maybe you have the china version?

I do not see any of those issues as well. Also, if you have a problem with MIUI, you can always count on the great community and install an AOSP rom. It is your choice how you use your phone.

JakeCherry97 said:
After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough ....
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.

Miui is cool. I have R5+ with xiaomi.eu rom, rooted with adaway app, and it's without any of these things.
Just read dude, it's not complicated to setup phone.
Other roms are also good choice, why not.

Only semi valid point is one, it's a freaking $ 150 dollars phone, so come on...
2. It's your fault for not learning to use settings properly, none of these problems are problems per se. Just you not getting used to your phone.
3. There are like 2apps that put ads on the system apps, and totally removable, even from the settings
4. Really? You just posted the solution to that problem.

lmao so instead of embracing the value Xiaomi devices and understand compromises you move over to an officially dead phone OS?

Redmi Note 5 is my first Xiaomi phone, and i can say that my next phone will 100% be Xiaomi again, why ? Because i had a Sony phone which i dropped from half a meter and the whole screen came out, couldn't be rooted and nobody bothered to make good roms for it. My note 5 has been dropped 3-4 times on hard cement, just the plastic part got scuffed. I haven't seen an AD during my use with stock MIUI , haven't had any freezes and i could give a rats booty about the theme app.

And now even we have got SOC 710 at 18000 price mi8se :fingers-crossed: :silly: which is seriously awsome :*)

You can deactivate the ads of the system in his settings on apps and system. Look tutorials in Xiaomi officcial forums.

DarthJabba9 said:
The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?

aurocha said:
A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?
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At the moment, Liquid Remix or crDroid. When Validus settles down on Vince, and SlimROM moves to Oreo, then my eventual preferences would be (1) SlimROM, (2) Validus.

Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing

fede01_8 said:
Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing
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Vince is perfectly okay for the price. The problems he is experiencing are mainly with miui. Yes, the components are cheap - but you get what you paid for. For me, it is a brilliant phone. And so is mido. You just need to adjust your expectations. There is no point in having a champagne taste on a coca cola budget.

DarthJabba9 said:
The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.

Talwinder8872 said:
thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.
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Yes, that is the way to do it.

Redmi Note 3SD, Redmi Note 4X, and now Redmi 5 Plus. Just awesome devices for the price! No problem whatsoever!

I think one of the main reasons I bought a xiaomi phone was to get a very decently specced phone at budget prices, unlock the bootloader of a xiaomi phone > install a custom rom > get a phone that's miles better than the competition at the same price range
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Yes, that is the way to do it.
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Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.

Mordar said:
Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.
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Yep. You don't want to go with the "other" SoC that Xiaomi often uses. I had about 5 different Xiaomi phones with that SoC, and their custom ROM support sucks big time (mainly due to lack of kernel sources).

Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro - still a good phone ?

Hi all,
I'm thinking buying Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro and wondering if it still a good phone, since Mi 11 came out today. this would be my first Xiaomi phone so hoping there are stable ROMs around (recommendation welcome!) which let you use all the phone's features and helps remove all those annoying ads. My usage is pretty light weight generally but I'm gonna go for the 8 gig RAM.
Should I still go for this phone? Anything else to keep in mind? any to watch out for? I'm still go thru all the threads/comments but feel free to reply since I wanna buy and root asap
Also how long does Xiaomi release OS updates and security patches for and does it actively block rooting like OPPO?
Cheers in advance!

What comes on your phone depends on the version. The global version I have has had no ads at all and no annoying pre-installed apps. It did aggressively close apps at first, but that seems to have settled down so I don't notice it any more. The most annoying thing: on Android 10 gestures worked with any launcher. Now with Android 11 gestures are only available with the stock launcher - and Xiaomi.EU still has this problem as it's based on MIUI.
There are only just custom roms appearing, mostly on Telegram. Don't know why it's taken this long. Rooting is possible once you've unlocked your bootloader, which you have to request from Xiaomi and usually have to wait something like 6-20 days. Whether you can still pass safetynet and allow banking apps seems a bit variable.
I'm very happy with the phone otherwise. The global version is a bit slower getting updates than CN or EU. Global just got Android 11 about a a week ago.

There's no ads in global and eea version. Unlocking is not blocked, you just have to wait 168 hours like for almost every other xiaomi phone. There are stable roms (pe, fluid, evox), but development seems slow because only few people know what they're doing, others just kang stuff...
As for xiaomi updates, it should cover at least 1 more year of updates, but you'll never know with them...
Only thing that matters is that camera isnt that great. It's good, don't get me wrong, just not exceptional which I expected at that price range... Gcam fixes a lot, though...

chisnz said:
What comes on your phone depends on the version. The global version I have has had no ads at all and no annoying pre-installed apps. It did aggressively close apps at first, but that seems to have settled down so I don't notice it any more. The most annoying thing: on Android 10 gestures worked with any launcher. Now with Android 11 gestures are only available with the stock launcher - and Xiaomi.EU still has this problem as it's based on MIUI.
There are only just custom roms appearing, mostly on Telegram. Don't know why it's taken this long. Rooting is possible once you've unlocked your bootloader, which you have to request from Xiaomi and usually have to wait something like 6-20 days. Whether you can still pass safetynet and allow banking apps seems a bit variable.
I'm very happy with the phone otherwise. The global version is a bit slower getting updates than CN or EU. Global just got Android 11 about a a week ago.
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Thank you so much for your reply!
So, I bought the phone and loving it! I'm on currently on MIUI Global 12.0.5 and have an update to update to MIUI V12.1.1.0.RJDINXM, should I update to this ? I don't want my gestures to stop working since the 'what's new' says 'Stable MIUI based on Android 11' or is it just a UI update and nothing to do with bases OS. I'm currently on Android 11.
Cheers!

calinorg said:
There's no ads in global and eea version. Unlocking is not blocked, you just have to wait 168 hours like for almost every other xiaomi phone. There are stable roms (pe, fluid, evox), but development seems slow because only few people know what they're doing, others just kang stuff...
As for xiaomi updates, it should cover at least 1 more year of updates, but you'll never know with them...
Only thing that matters is that camera isnt that great. It's good, don't get me wrong, just not exceptional which I expected at that price range... Gcam fixes a lot, though...
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Cheers mate! I do like MIUI overall, I don't see any ads but i did revoke authorization for msa so unsure it's cause of that. my current versions is MIUI Global 12.0.5.
I love the fact I can game of it without zero lag!
thanks for helping me buying an awesome phone!

fulecha said:
Cheers mate! I do like MIUI overall, I don't see any ads but i did revoke authorization for msa so unsure it's cause of that. my current versions is MIUI Global 12.0.5.
I love the fact I can game of it without zero lag!
thanks for helping me buying an awesome phone!
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Don't update to a11 just yet, wait for next update, this one is buggy as hell

calinorg said:
Don't update to a11 just yet, wait for next update, this one is buggy as hell
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Well I did it cause I got trigger happy, so on android 11 and MIUI V12.1.1.0.RJDINXM - noticed some lag/lock screen freezing issues occuring randomly, nothing too bad. I think with my limited knowledge it's the launcher ****ing it up! but I could be wrong.

Question Which ROM to replace?

I think until now, everyone that has received the F3 and use it for at least a couple days to weeks will agree with me that this phone is a joke. The hardware pretty much top tier, and this is the reason we buy it. However, the software is a real piece of crap. I have never used a phone with so many "irritating features" like this one: weak vibration, weird proximity sensor, brightness-dimming is just not working properly, notification error, and the list goes on...
I do not know if POCO will work on fixing anything anything in the near future, or if they care about this at all (correct me if the company speaks or addresses about any of the issues). In my opinion this is not a cheap ass phone (I paid around $400), therefore it should be finished better, not negligently like what we experience.
So back to the question which ROM is a good replacement for the MIUI 12 (I'm on 12.0.3 global) until let's say (if) MIUI 13 fixes some problems. I feel like this phone brought me back to the old days when I had to install custom ROM to escape the mediocre default one.

Hải Hay Ho said:
I think until now, everyone that has received the F3 and use it for at least a couple days to weeks will agree with me that this phone is a joke. The hardware pretty much top tier, and this is the reason we buy it. However, the software is a real piece of crap. I have never used a phone with so many "irritating features" like this one: weak vibration, weird proximity sensor, brightness-dimming is just not working properly, notification error, and the list goes on...
I do not know if POCO will work on fixing anything anything in the near future, or if they care about this at all (correct me if the company speaks or addresses about any of the issues). In my opinion this is not a cheap ass phone (I paid around $400), therefore it should be finished better, not negligently like what we experience.
So back to the question which ROM is a good replacement for the MIUI 12 (I'm on 12.0.3 global) until let's say (if) MIUI 13 fixes some problems. I feel like this phone brings me to the old days when I had to install custom ROM to escape the mediocre default one.
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Go for Hos

arifqur said:
Go for Hos aka HentaiOS
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HOS is not open source and has been banned from XDA. Part of this is due to the rude developer in charge of it. Personally I recommend Havoc OS (however I'm biased having built it and shared it). However, crdroid, pixel extended and pixel experience are all good.

Robert314 said:
HOS is not open source and has been banned from XDA. Part of this is due to the rude developer in charge of it. Personally I recommend Havoc OS (however I'm biased having built it and shared it). However, crdroid, pixel extended and pixel experience are all good.
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Does Havoc OS have gcam pre installed??

choobs95 said:
Does Havoc OS have gcam pre installed??
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Not yet. However I'm planning on adding it in the next release. I'm currently using this one: https://1-dontsharethislink.celsoazevedo.com/file/filesc/MGC_8.1.101_A9_GVw_snap_libs.apk and it's fine (It's by BSG)

Hải Hay Ho said:
I think until now, everyone that has received the F3 and use it for at least a couple days to weeks will agree with me that this phone is a joke. The hardware pretty much top tier, and this is the reason we buy it. However, the software is a real piece of crap. I have never used a phone with so many "irritating features" like this one: weak vibration, weird proximity sensor, brightness-dimming is just not working properly, notification error, and the list goes on...
I do not know if POCO will work on fixing anything anything in the near future, or if they care about this at all (correct me if the company speaks or addresses about any of the issues). In my opinion this is not a cheap ass phone (I paid around $400), therefore it should be finished better, not negligently like what we experience.
So back to the question which ROM is a good replacement for the MIUI 12 (I'm on 12.0.3 global) until let's say (if) MIUI 13 fixes some problems. I feel like this phone brought me back to the old days when I had to install custom ROM to escape the mediocre default one.
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Miui 12 sucks ass the haptic is week is eu.rom better or not

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Miui 12 sucks ass the haptic is week is eu.rom better or not
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im on the latest weekly xiaomi.eu rom and its the same but now i dont even have the haptic strength slider to try adjusting it.

metalspider said:
im on the latest weekly xiaomi.eu rom and its the same but now i dont even have the haptic strength slider to try adjusting it.
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On the stock rom was the haptic storong or not

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On the stock rom was the haptic storong or not
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it was very weak when i was on the stock 12.0.3 global too.didnt have any grinding noises but i could hear the haptic motor sometimes if i was in a very quiet room.

Hải Hay Ho said:
I think until now, everyone that has received the F3 and use it for at least a couple days to weeks will agree with me that this phone is a joke. The hardware pretty much top tier, and this is the reason we buy it. However, the software is a real piece of crap. I have never used a phone with so many "irritating features" like this one: weak vibration, weird proximity sensor, brightness-dimming is just not working properly, notification error, and the list goes on...
I do not know if POCO will work on fixing anything anything in the near future, or if they care about this at all (correct me if the company speaks or addresses about any of the issues). In my opinion this is not a cheap ass phone (I paid around $400), therefore it should be finished better, not negligently like what we experience.
So back to the question which ROM is a good replacement for the MIUI 12 (I'm on 12.0.3 global) until let's say (if) MIUI 13 fixes some problems. I feel like this phone brought me back to the old days when I had to install custom ROM to escape the mediocre default one.
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I replaced the Global Rom with Indonesia Rom and I am happy with it because it has mi phone app and mi messaging app instead of google apps.

i believe haptics was stronger on stock. EU rom bit weaker

Question OnePlus 9 Pro worth buying in August 2022?

Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.

Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.

Hey guys,
Just received a used 9 Pro LE2123 and I got it without any battery juice.
I am using the warp charger that is from this model and I noticed that the charging is super slow.
It came with Android C61 and I let it update to C62, if this plays any role.
Any ideas about what is happening?

Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.

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Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.
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Why to do this?
The device was factory resetted when I got it.

Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.

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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.
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Making Custom ROMs isn't my issue. The problem with 10 pro for me is not be able recover if got hardbricked (which I will do eventually) . We don't have any official stores in our country. And online services isn't really my thing. 10 Pro is 10$+ then 9 pro here. Still want to buy 9 pro over 10 pro cz of MSM mostly.

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Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.
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I guess after unlocking the bootloader and the full erase of data it should be fine.

op9pro could be a good phone for people living on social-media (nowadays the street-price is half of official price)
if you are flashotic or privacy-caring it's better thinking a bifferent device

Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.

AndyC76 said:
Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.
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what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?

Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?
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Current device is still OnePlus 9Pro 8gb. LE2123 c62. (UK)

Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.

RASTAVIPER said:
Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.
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Don't use Gmail app. I personally use Sugar mail and never missed any emails.

The 9 Pro continues to hold its own! Actually it's still pretty popular!

Personally in the US its one of the few options left available for those who like to really customize their devices. With spectacular battery life on customs (I've had mine about a month and get 8h SOT with some light gaming casually). I mean it doesn't get much better than this! Sure during heavy tasks it can get a little hot but that is slightly improving with OOS12 firmware. It will still reach those peak temps but seemingly not as fast. I got mine from Amazon as well for about $750 USD quite the deal! Using this device has be quite the pleasure. I'm definitely happy on Crdroid with BluSpark kernel. And since OOS has dropped the ball it means that OOS12 based custom roms will get nice custom kernel support which isn't normally there for a long time. Looking forward to the future of this phone!

No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)

davidfarah2003 said:
No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)
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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).

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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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Pixels have lacking support compared to what it used to be with the Nexus line up. There is some interest but it's mostly unofficial support that doesn't last for long and its nothing that you can rely on like with the OnePlus phones

MJPollard said:
Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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The biggest problem that puts people off the Pixels right now is the Samsung SoC and modem. Stupid decision on Google's part.