After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough.
Once i had Redmi 3S, Redmi 4X, then Redmi 5 Plus. I don't think i will buy a new one and here's why.
1) Well, they had great specs for their price, but they compromise durability by using cheap, weak and low-series aluminum to make their phones. That's why Mi5 and Redmi Note 3 failed Jerry's durability test. Basically, these are one drop phones. Europe is used to durable phones like Nokia, LG or Sony.
2) Software. My Redmi 3s had MIUI 7 out of the box, so i disabled some google poop i don't use and then updated to MIUI 8, unexpectedly bricking my phone for next 3 days until i was allowed to unlocked the bootloader, which was necessary to re-flash the device. MIUI 8 was great, had alot of features and MIUI 9 made things faster, but... My annoyance level is similar to dealing with Meizu phones. Some themes make unwanted changes to my home screen layout. Messenger notifications are quiet, just silent pop sound instead of normal messenger sound when screen is locked and off. On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.
JakeCherry97 said:
2) On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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I don't have any problem with YouTube
Also not have those ads on system apps. Maybe it's something from 3rd party app...
About themes app is something about new laws on European Union. Not have to keep region changed. Change to download and apply theme and then change it back to your country.
Actually, the Redmi 5 plus passed the bend test. Also I don't see any ads on mine, maybe you have the china version?
I do not see any of those issues as well. Also, if you have a problem with MIUI, you can always count on the great community and install an AOSP rom. It is your choice how you use your phone.
JakeCherry97 said:
After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough ....
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
Miui is cool. I have R5+ with xiaomi.eu rom, rooted with adaway app, and it's without any of these things.
Just read dude, it's not complicated to setup phone.
Other roms are also good choice, why not.
Only semi valid point is one, it's a freaking $ 150 dollars phone, so come on...
2. It's your fault for not learning to use settings properly, none of these problems are problems per se. Just you not getting used to your phone.
3. There are like 2apps that put ads on the system apps, and totally removable, even from the settings
4. Really? You just posted the solution to that problem.
lmao so instead of embracing the value Xiaomi devices and understand compromises you move over to an officially dead phone OS?
Redmi Note 5 is my first Xiaomi phone, and i can say that my next phone will 100% be Xiaomi again, why ? Because i had a Sony phone which i dropped from half a meter and the whole screen came out, couldn't be rooted and nobody bothered to make good roms for it. My note 5 has been dropped 3-4 times on hard cement, just the plastic part got scuffed. I haven't seen an AD during my use with stock MIUI , haven't had any freezes and i could give a rats booty about the theme app.
And now even we have got SOC 710 at 18000 price mi8se :fingers-crossed: :silly: which is seriously awsome :*)
You can deactivate the ads of the system in his settings on apps and system. Look tutorials in Xiaomi officcial forums.
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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?
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A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?
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At the moment, Liquid Remix or crDroid. When Validus settles down on Vince, and SlimROM moves to Oreo, then my eventual preferences would be (1) SlimROM, (2) Validus.
Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing
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Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing
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Vince is perfectly okay for the price. The problems he is experiencing are mainly with miui. Yes, the components are cheap - but you get what you paid for. For me, it is a brilliant phone. And so is mido. You just need to adjust your expectations. There is no point in having a champagne taste on a coca cola budget.
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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.
Talwinder8872 said:
thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.
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Yes, that is the way to do it.
Redmi Note 3SD, Redmi Note 4X, and now Redmi 5 Plus. Just awesome devices for the price! No problem whatsoever!
I think one of the main reasons I bought a xiaomi phone was to get a very decently specced phone at budget prices, unlock the bootloader of a xiaomi phone > install a custom rom > get a phone that's miles better than the competition at the same price range
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Yes, that is the way to do it.
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Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.
Mordar said:
Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.
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Yep. You don't want to go with the "other" SoC that Xiaomi often uses. I had about 5 different Xiaomi phones with that SoC, and their custom ROM support sucks big time (mainly due to lack of kernel sources).
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exist or are planned, custom rom for this smartphone? miui is great but stock Android is very very optimized
Cyanogen?
OmniRom?
thx
So i'm not the only one who are searching a MIUI alternative.
I've made a search on the web but nothing for the moment.
Same here, found, that MIUI isn't my cup of coffee...
So we will see...
Sent from my HM 1SW using XDA Free mobile app
The problem is the MIUI community.
They're sweet but... we can't talk about anything else except MIUI so it will be good if we can regroup a few users here to maybe interest some devs.
PS : I'm sorry for my poor english.
Also interested in this, I have got no developing experience, but I am willing to beta test, who knows maybe one day ill teach myself and cook a rom for it.
BennyBron said:
Also interested in this, I have got no developing experience, but I am willing to beta test, who knows maybe one day ill teach myself and cook a rom for it.
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Same. But if I can do anything to help I'll do my best.
As far as I have been able to find out, no sources are out = no AOSP roms for us, unless we write everything from scratch
MIUI Developers never release sources code = No custom rom, that's reason why we don't have MIUI custom on XDA.
-XDA has most skilled developers.
-If you take closer look MIUI it combines all Samsung IOS HTC and some custom Mods from XDA developers into one without permissions. It's Chinese Way, i have no comment on this.
Really exist one Cyanogenmod on Xiaomi Mi2/Mi2S... http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=16834&highlight=cyanogenmod
But in Redmi 1S right now nothing of nothing ...
facepalm for me... Miui sucks everywhere....
We just need to wait a bit...
And I guess this Cyanogen can't be used on 1S because of Qualcomm processor...
Can u guys help?
IMO, Xiaomi has pretty good hardware packed inside, but this same happened when i thought of buying Mi 3.
But i have 1 question though. I am planning to by REDMI 1S for my dad, can u help me to choose or reject this phone?
PS - He's a total novice when it comes to smartphones. request you to give your opinion accordingly.
Hi,
The MIUI interface is really easy to use.
The only negative point is the 4G unsupported in the Redmi 1S.
So I guess you can buy it, it's a really good product for the price.
Someone is working on CM11 for our Redmi 1s!!!
Check HERE
I hope it will be out soon :cyclops:
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Someone is working on CM11 for our Redmi 1s!!!
Check HERE
I hope it will be out soon :cyclops:
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The link seems to redirect to something else now. Shucks man.
Hi guys, i wanna ask. I'm planning to buy this phone in near months when it launches in my country. However, despite all the great stuff found on this phone - like its processor, GPU, sharp display, amazing cameras, etc - there are many complaints about its battery life and gaming performance - with games like Asphalt 8 running laggy in full graphics. I know that the custom ROM of stock Android for this phone hasn't come out yet until new given that it's a new phone, but i wanna know is there any way to improve its battery life and gaming performance.
I heard that MIUI of this phone consumes a lot of RAM and only leaves around 200MB of RAM. Does this phone allow users to deactivate the pre-loaded apps in order to free some RAM, thus making its battery last longer and performance much faster especially for gaming?
Please, answer my question guys. I'm in desperate for answers here because Xiaomi is about to launch its phones in my country soon and i don't want to be left behind in purchasing this phone given Xiaomi's flash sales.
Everyone?
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Everyone?
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dont know about games
what i can tell is that i have the phone for 2 months now,
and i havent got any problems with it
great phone for the price but u have to like the miui
Root acces was standard, so it isnt difficult to remove some apps.
On topic:
On cyanogenmod forum there is a request page for the 1S
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/95500-request-cyanogenmod-for-xiaomi-redmi-1s-snapdragon-400/
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dont know about games
what i can tell is that i have the phone for 2 months now,
and i havent got any problems with it
great phone for the price but u have to like the miui
Root acces was standard, so it isnt difficult to remove some apps.
On topic:
On cyanogenmod forum there is a request page for the 1S
http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/95500-request-cyanogenmod-for-xiaomi-redmi-1s-snapdragon-400/
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Thanks for your reply dude. Hopefully, when this phone receives the MIUI 6, it will improve its performance and battery life. This phone is about to arrive in the next few weeks in my country soon. Hopefully, i manage to buy it because the price of this phone at other retailers is just insane!!
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Thanks for your reply dude. Hopefully, when this phone receives the MIUI 6, it will improve its performance and battery life. This phone is about to arrive in the next few weeks in my country soon. Hopefully, i manage to buy it because the price of this phone at other retailers is just insane!!
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Performance and battery life are in my opinion allready good, remember it's not an high-end phone, a good mid range
martijnn2 said:
Performance and battery life are in my opinion allready good, remember it's not an high-end phone, a good mid range
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Yes, i know that. But i heard that even moto e or moto g can last about 6 hours for intensive gaming without resting the screen. So i think xiaomi should be similar in term of battery life wite moto phones given their similar specs.
Hi, I'm Eduard!
So, I have a few questions about Xiaomi MI 5s Plus and this brand, in general. I want to buy a new phone for myself because my Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus is a bit old right now!
#1: What is your experience with this brand, in general? Is it really that good as 'internet' says?
#2: What is your experience with this phone, in general? Is it performant? Can I install custom ROMs ? There is a Global ROM available or only the Chinese ROM version?
#3: Can you recommend a good seller for this phone? I'm from Romania. Can this websites be trusted? : xiaomi-mi*dot*com , xiaomidevice*dot*com
Thank you very much for your time!
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Hi, I'm Eduard!
So, I have a few questions about Xiaomi MI 5s Plus and this brand, in general. I want to buy a new phone for myself because my Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus is a bit old right now!
#1: What is your experience with this brand, in general? Is it really that good as 'internet' says?
#2: What is your experience with this phone, in general? Is it performant? Can I install custom ROMs ? There is a Global ROM available or only the Chinese ROM version?
#3: Can you recommend a good seller for this phone? I'm from Romania. Can this websites be trusted? : xiaomi-mi*dot*com , xiaomidevice*dot*com
Thank you very much for your time!
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Hello Eduard
#1: My xiaomi experience is : 4 redmi note 2 prime, 2 mi4c, 1 redmi and 3 Mi 5s (children, friend and me). All products work 's fine. I replaced screen on redmi note 2 & mi4c without issues.
#2 Mi 5s is my daily phone (4gb/128). I come from nexus 5 (3 years old) and galaxy s7 (1 month with it, really bad phone (my opinion)).
Mi 5s is really good, just missing qi charging (for my car...)
If you want a international rom (custom) you can see mi-globe.com (bootloader unlock needed).
#3 all my xiaomi are ordered from smartophone.com . Really trusted seller.
Sorry for my english (French)
Bets regards
Christophe
boulete said:
If you want a international rom (custom) you can see mi-globe.com (bootloader unlock needed).
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Is this a pre-rooted rom or have to install root separately?
edit By the way Eduard Mi5S is very good hardware, I dont like MIUI (personal preference) so waiting on vanilla or CM. But at least the hardware is well worth the price I can guarantee that.
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Is this a pre-rooted rom or have to install root separately?
edit By the way Eduard Mi5S is very good hardware, I dont like MIUI (personal preference) so waiting on vanilla or CM. But at least the hardware is well worth the price I can guarantee that.
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I have few Xioami phones and I'm really happy with the hardware and if you are not very picky MIUI will be good for you. Currently I'm using Mi5s and it works OK, however I would like to geta global ROM o CM ROM.
From Xiaomi i just have a router, Miwifi X-R1D...
I could assure you, they build inovative hardware, they pay atention to details and quality even under the wood (where generally no one look).
Software is where they suck. They know how to program, designed a complete inovative interface for their routers, and a set of programs/plugins/addons to extend funcionallity (torrents, cloud, mobile app, etc).
But i love freedom, first freedom of speech, they release everything in chinese, you have to use google translate or use a someone's translated version of firmware and mobile app, etc... (yes i know they are chinese vendors only)
Second, freedom to use whatever i think is better, for example, you install their torrent addon, your are stick to their client ("thunder" whatever).
Third, security, no one shoud trust personal data with this kind of "automated" router. I'm not saying they're stealing i just cannot trust on a beatiful interface doing something under the surface.
I'll give you an example, i've installed their mobile app, one day after my mobile photos are on router's hdd.
Of course we can assume this is an app option and have positives, but hey, disabled or not this thing it's also connected to their "kingsoft cloud"!
The solution was to install a tomato firmware where you really take control of everything.
With Xiaomi mobiles we are almost at the same page, you buy a phone without released sources, locked bootloader and a Chinese/English Miui Rom with an app store of their own.
Of course we could always install google play store, and if we could wait a Global Miui Rom (multilanguage) is generally available.
If we want something different, we have to request authorization to unlock the bootloader, then wait 6 months to a not guaranteed released source and then a power user with time and knowledge to a maybe CM official rom.
There are so much maybes that i think It would be better to assume they want this as Miui only, and if you buy it you should agree with.
BPSoft said:
From Xiaomi i just have a router, Miwifi X-R1D...
I could assure you, they build inovative hardware, they pay atention to details and quality even under the wood (where generally no one look).
Software is where they suck. They know how to program, designed a complete inovative interface for their routers, and a set of programs/plugins/addons to extend funcionallity (torrents, cloud, mobile app, etc).
But i love freedom, first freedom of speech, they release everything in chinese, you have to use google translate or use a someone's translated version of firmware and mobile app, etc... (yes i know they are chinese vendors only)
Second, freedom to use whatever i think is better, for example, you install their torrent addon, your are stick to their client ("thunder" whatever).
Third, security, no one shoud trust personal data with this kind of "automated" router. I'm not saying they're stealing i just cannot trust on a beatiful interface doing something under the surface.
I'll give you an example, i've installed their mobile app, one day after my mobile photos are on router's hdd.
Of course we can assume this is an app option and have positives, but hey, disabled or not this thing it's also connected to their "kingsoft cloud"!
The solution was to install a tomato firmware where you really take control of everything.
With Xiaomi mobiles we are almost at the same page, you buy a phone without released sources, locked bootloader and a Chinese/English Miui Rom with an app store of their own.
Of course we could always install google play store, and if we could wait a Global Miui Rom (multilanguage) is generally available.
If we want something different, we have to request authorization to unlock the bootloader, then wait 6 months to a not guaranteed released source and then a power user with time and knowledge to a maybe CM official rom.
There are so much maybes that i think It would be better to assume they want this as Miui only, and if you buy it you should agree with.
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Well explained mate
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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In reality I have not suggested any devices ?
Nokia could be a good choice for what I remember about its Zeiss Camera lenses, I could appreciate it on my Nokia Lumia which now it's gone to paradise.
I honestly am tempted to take the pixel 3a but I live in Brazil and here it is more expensive due to the importation taxes.
The K20 if I'm not wrong, is a bit strange to my eyes because it has a lifting camera jumping from the outside of the chassis.
The choice is not so easy also because the old Zuk-Z2 is working extremely well
niyonsv said:
There was a small discussion in the AEX 6.7 thread started by @mcalistri asking for a suggestion to replace his Zuk Z2 Plus with another one. His suggestion was Pixel 3A and Nokia 7.2. I too asked if the OnePlus 6T is a good option. @selvarajrajkanna and @GopalKaul answered both of us and suggested K20 Pro and Pixel 3A. Since it is not good to discuss this in AEX thread I'm continuing that discussion here.
My suggestions and the summary of the discussion:
- OnePlus 7 (but the development is not in a good position; I read a few threads there. Also the 7T is on the way so buying a new one would not be a better idea I think)
- OnePlus 6T (if you want to stay on stock rom because oxygen os is good. - suggested by selvarajrajkanna. I found a few pre-owned 6Ts and also my friend has one, that's why I suggested it)
- Pixel 3A (have better camera and if camera is the only priority - suggested by selvarajrajkanna and mcalistri)
- Redmi K20 Pro (suggested by GopalKaul and selvarajrajkanna because it has latest chipset, 3.5mm jack, bigger battery, etc.)
- Nokia 7.2 (suggested by mcalistri)
- Poco F1 (if on a tight budget - suggested by GopalKaul)
Also please tell if you have any other good options or suggestions in this list. I'll update this post if anything relevant is posted. Our Z2 Plus started with 6.0 and went through 7.0, 8.0 and 9.0 without any serious performance issues. So I think Android Q will also work flawlessly. But if any Z2 Plus owner who like to replace it with another one and also expect a legend like Z2 this post may/should help. Thanks for taking the time to read this long post. ?
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
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If you want to try a new phone after the Zuk Z2, try buying either Pixel 3, or even 7 is a very good option[seeing the development of other one plus phones, 7's development should soon emerge]
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Thanks. I can get a OnePlus 6T phone (pre-owned, 6-128, still in warranty) for about 75% of that of a new OnePlus 7's price. So, which one would be better? OnePlus 6T or 7? Or any other?
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IMHO we should consider first the device as it we find it from the factory, with its default software and O.S., I mean we should consider if it can or can't be ROM customized as second requirement.
For example, for my personal user case, I purchased my ZukZ2 with Chinese ROM, than the decision to flash a custom ROM on it has been almost mandatory.
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
I would defenately go to k20 pro
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Thanks. My thought is just opposite. I like almost-stock-ROMs with additional features and the factory OSs never attracted me except for some of their features or something. I flashed the custom ROM the day I got Z2. Before buying it I searched about many devices in XDA which had better custom ROM development support. Also Z2 was a device with almost high-end spec then and I got a huge discount then. That's why I'm looking for a device identical to Z2 of that time.
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Stock OS as the pure Android running on a Google Pixel phone, from what I've heard have everything we need to forget about custom ROM.
Our device, thanks to its hardware is still pretty good to offer brilliant service for years to come.
The maior lacks, I IMHO can resume for Z2 are:
1 - A not superlative camera, beside its hw specs which are not the top of the market, probably has not been achieved the very best in terms of firmware and software to manage it at a better level.
2 - A not superlative sound in terms of loudness
Regards,
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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manishgkasera said:
I don't see any reason to change the device.
Charge the ROM, chahe the screen guard and change the cover or add a skin.
That's the new device for you.
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That's how I used my Z2 bro. It has a unique design (all phones where curved then) and it always stayed different from others. But there's one thing that I changed thrice and it was a bit more costly - battery. Also my phone is becoming slow and slow each day. Tried different ROMs, reduced number of apps. The phone is not performing well too. It is taking ages to click a photo. Also the earpiece speaker now started distorting, I've to use headset always for talking. There are other reasons here and there, so I think it is better to change my phone. That's why I asked for suggestion.
I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I'm also looking for an upgrade to this phone. I bought the ZUK about 3 years ago with the intention of only keeping it for under 12 months. But I ended up sticking with it since I couldn't find a suitable upgrade at the time. After a lot of use it seems the ZUK is starting to show signs of slowing down. It's taking time to open apps and the storage is incredibly slow as prooven by benchmark testing.
Unfortunately my choice for a replacement is limited because I get eyestrain and headaches when looking at AMOLED screens with PWM flickering. The Asus Zenfone 6 looks perfect with an IPS panel, but it is too expensive at £450 here in the UK. The upcoming Realme 5 Pro seems good with SD712, 6GB RAM and 128GB UFS 2.1 storage for a much more reasonable £190. But I worry about whether this phone will recieve good custom ROM support. There's also the Redmi Note 7 Pro with SD675 but it has a horrible ugly U-shaped notch. Maybe the upcoming Redmi Note 8 will also be decent.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I haven't heard of this AMOLED flickering issue till now. Is it a serious issue to consider?
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
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I'm a bit surprised about hear some buddies have the need to replace the battery in their ZukZ2.
My battery, after years of usage looks like brand new, it doesn't presents any sign of longevity.
Furthermore I can't understand how the device appears running slower! We have not any mechanical disk inside it, neither a Windows XP is running here! If your device is slow then try to clean flash after performing a factory reset.
Sirs, are you violenting yours smartphones? Are you using it extensively with gaming and repetitive charging during usage?
May be you should have been more respectful and conservative using the phone now you have to pay the bill!
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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But I changed the batteries thrice, all from Lenovo official service center. I always go to stock ROM between each ROM changes, and clean flash between each updates. It's a bit time consuming sometimes but I know its better. Only a very few times I dirty flashed.
I used it for gaming only in the first year of purchase, now I'm not interest in that, that's why. Also I was always respectful to my phone, since it is the only device I have.
The phone is speedier with old stock ROMs and nougat ROMs, but not that speedier than then. So if I need to use newer version of ROMs and apps I should switch to a newer phone rather forcing Z2 to do all new stuffs.
I remember only a few phone models were capable of taking photos with GCams and Z2 was there in the list right after getting camera2API. Also it took and processed photos very fast. But now it is taking a lot of time even to click a photo.
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I really don't know why you had to replace your battery trice, I think it is a very seldom occurrence, nor I can say it happened due your usage, most likely it could be due you purchased a defective device.
About slowing down after time, I agree about the SSD consideration made by our buddy participating to this discussion because I recently red something about SSD since I'm going to replace my laptop HDD but also this kind of issue I believe it's happening seldom in smartphones.
I won't to cause frustrations writing that I've not noticed any slowness on my Zuk Z2 so far, just a little bit when I flashed Nameless kernel which was an EAS kernel.
Now on AEX 6.7 I'm using the default kernel which is giving to the Z2 an extremely fast responsiveness and smooth usability too.
I think I will try to run the SSD performance test suggested by our buddy (sorry I didn't wrote your name to mention it but you sent interesting comments indeed).
I'm sure that there are not many users affected by problems you are facing about slowness and battery, or better, it would be interesting to make a survey here on XDA to know how many people have such problems on their ZukZ2.
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Well it only affects a small minority of people, I heard about 10% of users can experience these symptoms with AMOLED panels. It just means you are more sensitive to the flickering than other people. Sadly, the only way to find out is to purchase an AMOLED phone and try it for yourself. That's what happened with me.
I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
In regards to battery performance, mine still gives about 4 hours of SOT but that is disappointing when it used to last for 7 hours and 30 minutes. I always allow my phone to run completely out of battery which I heard isn't good for for in the long-term. So perhaps bad charging habits have caused more degradation.
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Very much interesting comments!
I think I will try to run the SSD benchmark but before I would like to ask you why you say that your results are bad?
Did you compared with another ZukZ2 user running similar environment?
About the battery we also have to take in account the adjustment we could have done to applications (running in background or not) the screen stby after X seconds, the charger we use, in fact there are plenty of chargers around that are not good for our battery but that are being used normally.
In any case your SOT looks very normal to me.
Regards,
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I was of the understanding that flash storage can degrade over time in smartphones. I probably didn't do mine any favours by constantly flashing ROMs and copying files to it over the course of 3 years. I did some storage benchmarks and I'm only getting 33MB/s sequential write speeds. Random write 4K is even worse at 1.3MB/s average. Surely that's not normal.
https://files.catbox.moe/e1wu3r.png
Can anyone compare against my scores? The app is called CPDT Benchmark in the Play Store.
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Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
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Here is my CPDT benchmark result which looks quite aligned with your, so I think that SSD performance has nothing to do with the slowness of the responsiveness of your Zuk Z2.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saplin.CPDT
Regards,
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Sorry, the result of my benchmark is not visible externally so I'm attaching the screenshot here.
Regards,
Hi, I am planning to upgrade to Poco F3(Mi 11X) however, while ordering on Amazon(in) I found too many 1 star reviews mostly for heating and touch related issues. Do this model still has serious heating and touch/ other problems. I root all my devices and move to custom rom and will do the same if I get this phone. After reading the reviews, I am confused and need some honest opinions from users owning the device. I am a moderate user ( YouTube, whatsapp, genshin impact , pubg etc.).
The update to fix such issues will soon hit the Indian variant of the Poco F3 (Mi 11x).
However, I don't think they will be able to fully fix any heating issues, this is because the heat of the device is fully defendant on the ambient temperature.
In the case of India, it's hot there. Almost all devices are bound to overheat unless you are in a air conditioned environment at all times when using the device especially for gaming.
If you're just using it for daily apps, you'll should be fine once they push the global fixes to the Indian variant.
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The update to fix such issues will soon hit the Indian variant of the Poco F3 (Mi 11x).
However, I don't think they will be able to fully fix any heating issues, this is because the heat of the device is fully defendant on the ambient temperature.
In the case of India, it's hot there. Almost all devices are bound to overheat unless you are in a air conditioned environment at all times when using the device especially for gaming.
If you're just using it for daily apps, you'll should be fine once they push the global fixes to the Indian variant.
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so the Heating , Touch and Dimming will all be eventually fixed with future updates. Do I go ahead and order the phone?
I can't say what you are looking for in a phone, but so far all the issues you mentioned that were given one star reviews on Amazon India have been pretty much fixed globally.
Since the Indian variant was the last one to be released, I fully expect the same fixes to be pushed to the Indian variant in future updates.
As an alterntive since you metioned custom roms, you can just unlock the phone and install Xiaomi.EU rom and not have deal with any of the problems you mentioned above...
Nemix77 said:
I can't say what you are looking for in a phone, but so far all the issues you mentioned that were given one star reviews on Amazon India have been pretty much fixed globally.
Since the Indian variant was the last one to be released, I fully expect the same fixes to be pushed to the Indian variant in future updates.
As an alterntive since you metioned custom roms, you can just unlock the phone and install Xiaomi.EU rom and not have deal with any of the problems you mentioned above...
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Thanks Nemix, I was really wary of getting this phone after looking at all those reviews, however as most of the issues are software related I am ordering the phone.
hellnoob said:
Thanks Nemix, I was really wary of getting this phone after looking at all those reviews, however as most of the issues are software related I am ordering the phone.
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I have an unboxed piece with brand new nilkin case and nilkin tempered glass. Let me know if interested. Phone has not been used.
After using it for a few weeks I haven't had any screen dimming (global software). In pubg it got warm, but not uncomfortable after some use. I haven't played genshin. The only real issue mine has is the green tint/uneven screen at low brightness. But that's not really bad. it's only visible in a dark room with grey backgrounds.
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After using it for a few weeks I haven't had any screen dimming (global software). In pubg it got warm, but not uncomfortable after some use. I haven't played genshin. The only real issue mine has is the green tint/uneven screen at low brightness. But that's not really bad. it's only visible in a dark room with grey backgrounds.
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Yes, I have seen posts about green tint. Hopefully this too will get fixed with future updates.
MIUI 12.5 Stable Beta released for Mi 11x:
Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com
You probably need to signed up for MIUI beta testing account (I don't know how to do so) or you can just unlock the bootloader and install using Mi Flash? (I don't know much about rom installation on the Indian variant).
the is fine, iuse as my daily driver, not kindo of the "gamer" one, but it work really good on all apps i used
the camera ...well it's good (still under RN10P) but since not photo lover so (for me) i say it's fine.
as for the heat, it will be warm (outdoor) when playing high res gaming, & i encounter some lag on extreme graphic set on some game...
the only problem for me is that gesture navigation doesn't work on 3rd party launcher & i think xiaomy will never fix that problem...
Nemix77 said:
MIUI 12.5 Stable Beta released for Mi 11x:
Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com
You probably need to signed up for MIUI beta testing account (I don't know how to do so) or you can just unlock the bootloader and install using Mi Flash? (I don't know much about rom installation on the Indian variant).
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I got this phone and also received 12.5.1 stable update. Didn't get a chance to use it extensively. Unlocked bootloader and waiting for 168 hours.
hellnoob said:
I got this phone and also received 12.5.1 stable update. Didn't get a chance to use it extensively. Unlocked bootloader and waiting for 168 hours.
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This phone is a bomb!
Lets talk frustrated people who spend their bucks for a top High end.
I am a low to moderate user and have upgraded all the way from Redmi 8 to Mi 11X. Din't use the handset for 20 days as I had planned to sell it after finding that it doesn't have Mi dialler and messaging apps. But 15 days later found out that Miui EU ROM has those. Applied for bootloader unlock and installed Miui EU 12.5.2.0 and now updated to 12.5.3.0. Since my basic usage is calls, WhatsApp, Facebook & Twitter via chrome browser and nothing else, I haven't faced any issues as such. I have already 40 third party apps installed like for travelling, banking, food ordering, etc. Haven't faced any issues so far. Don't know about heating as I never user it to the extent.
arcaddiction said:
I have an unboxed piece with brand new nilkin case and nilkin tempered glass. Let me know if interested. Phone has not been used.
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Where do you live and what case is it exactly?
theoalex50 said:
Where do you live and what case is it exactly?
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From India. It's a nilkin frosted shield ultra..
I have already bought the phone. Please close the thread. Thanks.
Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.
Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.
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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.
Hey guys,
Just received a used 9 Pro LE2123 and I got it without any battery juice.
I am using the warp charger that is from this model and I noticed that the charging is super slow.
It came with Android C61 and I let it update to C62, if this plays any role.
Any ideas about what is happening?
Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.
abhijithpyd said:
Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.
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Why to do this?
The device was factory resetted when I got it.
Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.
MJPollard said:
I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.
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Making Custom ROMs isn't my issue. The problem with 10 pro for me is not be able recover if got hardbricked (which I will do eventually) . We don't have any official stores in our country. And online services isn't really my thing. 10 Pro is 10$+ then 9 pro here. Still want to buy 9 pro over 10 pro cz of MSM mostly.
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Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.
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I guess after unlocking the bootloader and the full erase of data it should be fine.
op9pro could be a good phone for people living on social-media (nowadays the street-price is half of official price)
if you are flashotic or privacy-caring it's better thinking a bifferent device
Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.
AndyC76 said:
Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.
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what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?
Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?
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Current device is still OnePlus 9Pro 8gb. LE2123 c62. (UK)
Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.
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Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.
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Don't use Gmail app. I personally use Sugar mail and never missed any emails.
The 9 Pro continues to hold its own! Actually it's still pretty popular!
Personally in the US its one of the few options left available for those who like to really customize their devices. With spectacular battery life on customs (I've had mine about a month and get 8h SOT with some light gaming casually). I mean it doesn't get much better than this! Sure during heavy tasks it can get a little hot but that is slightly improving with OOS12 firmware. It will still reach those peak temps but seemingly not as fast. I got mine from Amazon as well for about $750 USD quite the deal! Using this device has be quite the pleasure. I'm definitely happy on Crdroid with BluSpark kernel. And since OOS has dropped the ball it means that OOS12 based custom roms will get nice custom kernel support which isn't normally there for a long time. Looking forward to the future of this phone!
No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)
davidfarah2003 said:
No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)
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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
MJPollard said:
Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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Pixels have lacking support compared to what it used to be with the Nexus line up. There is some interest but it's mostly unofficial support that doesn't last for long and its nothing that you can rely on like with the OnePlus phones
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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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The biggest problem that puts people off the Pixels right now is the Samsung SoC and modem. Stupid decision on Google's part.