Older Front Cam Sensor vs Newer: Differentiate? - Redmi Note 8 Pro Questions & Answers

Is there any way to differentiate between the devices having older and newer front cam sensor?

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Hi all,
I read everywhere that the phablet has a 12 MP primary sensor with f/2.2 lens and a secondary 5 MP with f/2.0 aperture for background blurring.
But what brand and model is it?
Could it be compatible to the pixel camera software as is that of the note 4?
thanks.
12MP Camera from Sony sensor
5MP camera from Samsung sensor
20MP front camera from Sony sensor
sensors dont that much when it comes to image quality in phone cameras. Its the software optimization that is more important. You could make the note 5 pro camera much better if say google developed the camera software for it like the pixel. Just the spec or sensor vendor does not indicate image quality,
adfds said:
sensors dont that much when it comes to image quality in phone cameras. Its the software optimization that is more important. You could make the note 5 pro camera much better if say google developed the camera software for it like the pixel. Just the spec or sensor vendor does not indicate image quality,
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I agree. in fact I was looking for information about the camera model to do targeted searches such as "camera model + pixel camera".
since someone has succeeded in modifying the camera driver of the note 4, I hope they succeed even for the 5 camera
EDIT: however, it would seem that the pixel camera driver are more related to the type of CPU rather than to the camera.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
SunilSuni said:
12MP Camera from Sony sensor
5MP camera from Samsung sensor
20MP front camera from Sony sensor
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to be precise they would seem:
rear: Sony IMX486 - 12 mpx - f/2.2 - pixel 1.25 µm + Samsung – 5 mpx – f/2.0 – pixel 1.12 µm
front: Sony IMX376 – 20 mpx – f/2.2
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Low Resolution in Front Camera Issue

So i think everyone of you have come across this annoyance that third party cameras on Redmi Note 5 Pro (Note 5 China) cannot use the full 20mp resolution in front camera. Only 5mp resolution is utilised.
So can anyone point out what exactly is the reason for that and is there any fix possible for the issue, as this is a major reason for me to not flash custom roms as even gcam doesn't use full resolution of front camera.
Replies appreciated.
I tried the Nokia camera port and it works. It Utilizes full 20 mp front sensor.
sharmasrb said:
I tried the Nokia camera port and it works. It Utilizes full 20 mp front sensor.
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yeah i have tried nokia cam too, it utilities full 20mp front. But the quality is nowhere close to google camera and that's why i want the gcam to utilize full 20mp front.

Fake rear second camera?

Daisy should have second rear 5MPx camera but I dont think that is even used, it feels like just a hole. Doesnt help for bokeh, in low ligh, for zooming. If I covered it image was the same. Anyone knows when this camera take any effect?
same problem, bad front camera experience
itsaazim said:
same problem, bad front camera experience
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next time please read post before you write some unrelated text
I think so too
It is definitely not fake.
You can test by going to dialer and typing *#*#64663#*#*
In that test mode you can test each camera lens ( finger over lens) and that will verify both cams do in fact "work"
Not saying the software actually uses both, but the cams are in fact real
hossman said:
It is definitely not fake.
You can test by going to dialer and typing *#*#64663#*#*
In that test mode you can test each camera lens ( finger over lens) and that will verify both cams do in fact "work"
Not saying the software actually uses both, but the cams are in fact real
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Im not so sure in my case:laugh::laugh::laugh:
edit:same for dual back camera
With the stock camera app, it does work correctly. Perhaps you should contact warranty...
The portrait mode that focus only on what is close must be a proof that the second camera works, right?
If you cover the second camera in potrait mode in stock cam app, you will see that it is not working properly anymore
the 2nd camera only there to enhance DOF information
not to actually take a picture.
front camera is also able to fake the DOF but its slower and not so accurate when compared to the rear camera
hossman said:
It is definitely not fake.
You can test by going to dialer and typing *#*#64663#*#*
In that test mode you can test each camera lens ( finger over lens) and that will verify both cams do in fact "work"
Not saying the software actually uses both, but the cams are in fact real
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This works for me! Thanks. I don't know why others doubt their smartphones
i also use this model and i think that secondary dual cam is just for show off it does not do any thing. its a mimic only for branding purpose.
So many people have no idea what they bought.
The first sensor is a 12MPx Sony sensor (bottom one) that captures standard photos, in focus.
The second sensor is a 5MPx Samsung sensor (top one) that analyzes the whole frame and returns RAW depth data for the camera app to process, to bring a better blur effect for the portrait mode.
This is a bonus to the classic software portrait mode, it helps. It's not useless, and it's not for show off.
The fact that it doesn't work as good in dark environment is because the Samsung sensor is cheap and can't give enough data in darkness.
Now, let's see when both cameras work at the same time (not applicable on this device):
- when the secondary sensor is black and white, this helps the pictures get more dynamic range
- when the secondary sensor is the same as the other sensor, this is used for 3D imaging (chech HTC 3D)
Now when 2 modules work independently and can be switched via software:
- when the main lens are normal and the other lens are wide lens
- when the main lens are normal and the other lens are zoom lens
Now, our device doesn't fit in either of the above categories and the best way to use the Portrait mode is to use a ToF sensor, but baring in mind the price of our device the ToF sensor was replaced with a standard, low quality camera sensor from Samsung.

Front camera question

So I upgraded from the g6 and on the g6 the ffc has 2 camera options standard and the wide angle.
Handling the g7, I do not see those opens when I use the ffc. Am I missing something? Phone is on latest update.

32 MP GCam ?

Does anyone have by any chance found a way to produce 32 MP shots using GCam ? I can't Invision the amount of details that would appear in the picture ,I searched everywhere and I am desperate for such mode ,even if the picture is just interpoalted
Thanks in advance ,have a nice day ?
Everybody Needs GCam For A70.
Everyone who have A70, needs GCam with proper cameras.
Rear : 32MP
Front: 32MP
Somebody says that samsung and other phones like Xiaomi, Oneplus, Realme etc. are using 4x technology. Means rendering image at 4x.
Redmi 7 Note Pro has 48 MP but it actually has 12MP camera means 4x12= 48MP.
Same case in other phones. Like realme 3 pro has 16MP camera but click 64mp ultra pic too.
Listen, If we are thinking like this 4x technology. Then Gcam shows rear camera = 8MP means 4x8=32MP. Means it's true.
But But But... In case of front camera why it shows 5.1 MP? means 5.1X4 =20.4 MP ? Strange!!!!!!!!
If 4x is used then why front camera shows 5.1 MP even it's also 32MP.
I am very sad because there is no developer, who shows interest in custom ROMS, Mods, GCam, TWRP etc. for Samsung A70.
I will wait for some days and then try to sale my A70.
Thanks.
If I'm not mistaken the camera has 4x8MP sensors and the gcam can only see one of them , the front camera is another issue and it mainly has to do with the way gcam is made. If anyone knows better please inform us.
8MP on the front, 5MP depth sensor, 8MP ultrawide and 32MP regular on the back. The 32MP sensor is a Samsung ISOCELL sensor that uses 2x2 pixel binning (basically 4 cells = 1 pixel) to produce a binned 8MP image.
Samsung's 12MP mode is curious, it's not really needed. Gcam produces better images at 8MP than Samsung's own camera software does at 12MP. Samsung's app is garbage, basically.
Samaung dont make all their camera modes available in public APIs and until that changes gcam will likely never fully support any Samsung phone.

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