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Can the maximum voltage be removed(3.7v)

Elephone has limited the battery voltage to 3.7, I'm not 100% sure if that limits the charging too. If it does limit charging, is it possible to remove the limit as a big battery needs a lot of charging time, mine takes 3 hours with a 2A 5V samsung charger and about 4 with elephone charger.

I'm not sure if the voltage limit can be removed, but considering how big the battery is, I'd say 3 hours isn't bad at all to charge from very low to 100%.

SponTen said:
I'm not sure if the voltage limit can be removed, but considering how big the battery is, I'd say 3 hours isn't bad at all to charge from very low to 100%.
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Elephone advertised it can be fully charged in 90 minutes, of course I don't expect my phone to do 0-100 in 90 minutes but it should be able to do less than 3 hours(double the time advertised)

abubakar486 said:
Elephone advertised it can be fully charged in 90 minutes, of course I don't expect my phone to do 0-100 in 90 minutes but it should be able to do less than 3 hours(double the time advertised)
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To be fair Elephone advertised that you gain 10% in 10 minutes ... which is true if we're talking about 5%-15% (try it), but not true if we're talking about 90%-100%

abubakar486 said:
Elephone advertised it can be fully charged in 90 minutes, of course I don't expect my phone to do 0-100 in 90 minutes but it should be able to do less than 3 hours(double the time advertised)
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REALLY?? Wow I don't remember reading this anywhere! I just assumed 3 hours was decent, although I'm coming from a ~3 year old HTC One that seemed to almost be on its last legs.
Do you remember where you read it? Cause I'm curious now...

SponTen said:
REALLY?? Wow I don't remember reading this anywhere! I just assumed 3 hours was decent, although I'm coming from a ~3 year old HTC One that seemed to almost be on its last legs.
Do you remember where you read it? Cause I'm curious now...
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Sorry my bad, must of been another phone I was looking into at the time of buying my P8000

They have set that charging rate for the fastest most reliable,any higher could cook the battery?
This phone has a whopping battery and for most is more than adequate for daily use,unless your awake 24/7,then your a zombie maybe.

Oneplus 3 battery issue

I ordered my oneplus 3 on 14th june and it arrived on 16th june. For quite a time the battery was working good but from past one month, phones battery has been degrading quite quickly and it takes a littke longer time to charge like earlier is used to take about an hour to charge completely and now it takes 1 hour and 12 minutes plus earlier it used to charge about 75-79% in half an hour but now it charges only 69%
So what ahould I do?

jaasirusman said:
I ordered my oneplus 3 on 14th june and it arrived on 16th june. For quite a time the battery was working good but from past one month, phones battery has been degrading quite quickly and it takes a littke longer time to charge like earlier is used to take about an hour to charge completely and now it takes 1 hour and 12 minutes plus earlier it used to charge about 75-79% in half an hour but now it charges only 69%
So what ahould I do?
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That's normal i guess
Sent from my OnePlus3 using XDA Labs

If it was normal then i wouln't have posted it

60% in 30min is common with dash charge.
charging gets slower the more ur charging level already is.
72min for a full charge is pretty good tbh

If i accept that then whats the reason for the degradation of the battery

jaasirusman said:
If i accept that then whats the reason for the degradation of the battery
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There can be many reasons really can't find exact one
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Should I get the battery replaced?

jaasirusman said:
Should I get the battery replaced?
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since ur battery behaves as normal, no.
mine takes with dash
92% (5% to 97%) = 67min
95% (4% to 99%) = 70mins
and so does yours, consider that a different charging level or usage while charging changes the charging behaviour.
even the room temperature might change the charging speed.

Whats the reason behind quick degradation of battery then?

jaasirusman said:
Whats the reason behind quick degradation of battery then?
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It had nothing to do with battery degradation. Your phone consumes energy a dwell when charging. An empty freshly wiped phone will charge faster then one bombed with apps. Nothing to worry about.

jaasirusman said:
Should I get the battery replaced?
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Yeah., that's right. I think the battery is causing your problems.

That I get it but what about battery degradation

jaasirusman said:
That I get it but what about battery degradation
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Every post of yours contains the term "battery degradation". But apart from the minor difference in charging time (which seems to be normal), you have not explained what you mean by "battery degradation".
Do you mean to say that your charged battery does not last as long as it used to? Or something else?

Battery charging

Is there any app which speeds up the charging?

sbejjankimobile said:
Is there any app which speeds up the charging?
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Nop.

Until and unless kernel modifications are done, theres no way to charge fast..

The Golden Rule...
sbejjankimobile said:
Is there any app which speeds up the charging?
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Hello..
It's a 5v/2a.. and there is nothing that is going to change that.
If you stick with the charger that came with the device, you should have no issues simply charging it whenever you slumber.
It will not "Overcharge" and shorten the life of your battery.
The biggest mistake users make is trying to force a higher V/A charger down their deivices throat..
If you employ some of the features available to you via Power Saving options.. unless you are a Heavy gamer / movie watcher, you should be making it through a day... I'm averaging 7 SOT in 16 h powered up.. I'm @ 3h 41m SOT and 68% battery for example right now..

RaiderWill said:
Hello..
It's a 5v/2a.. and there is nothing that is going to change that.
If you stick with the charger that came with the device, you should have no issues simply charging it whenever you slumber.
It will not "Overcharge" and shorten the life of your battery.
The biggest mistake users make is trying to force a higher V/A charger down their deivices throat..
If you employ some of the features available to you via Power Saving options.. unless you are a Heavy gamer / movie watcher, you should be making it through a day... I'm averaging 7 SOT in 16 h powered up.. I'm @ 3h 41m SOT and 68% battery for example right now..
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And how does one change the position of notification bar icons (battery, signal etc.) as yours appear in the screenshots?

why the phone doesnt really "Super Charge ?"

we all know that one of the benefits of A70 is it's so called "Super Fast Charging"
well...as super fast as the claim, its super fast in dissapointing as well
TTHE PHONE IS CAPPED AT 15 WATTS ONLY !!!!!
as soon as u charge the phone it jups to 32 watts, so, its not the outlet that have the issue which is decent, then u wait a couple of seconds annnnnnnd....its stuck at below 1000ma with 14.4 watts of power
i dont get it, why the heck it doesnt stick to the 25 watts promise ? am i doing something wrong ?
i am using franko kernel app to measure the watts

From what I gather it will only 'fast charge' when the phone is in standby. I.e. The screen is off and phone not being used ....
But I agree it is a poor fast charge.
My honor note 10 which is a 22w super charge on a 5000mah battery charges way faster even with the screen on and phone being used.
Maybe it's Samsung just being cautious with there batteries.... [emoji848]

Rixil 1 said:
we all know that one of the benefits of A70 is it's so called "Super Fast Charging"
well...as super fast as the claim, its super fast in dissapointing as well
TTHE PHONE IS CAPPED AT 15 WATTS ONLY !!!!!
as soon as u charge the phone it jups to 32 watts, so, its not the outlet that have the issue which is decent, then u wait a couple of seconds annnnnnnd....its stuck at below 1000ma with 14.4 watts of power
i dont get it, why the heck it doesnt stick to the 25 watts promise ? am i doing something wrong ?
i am using franko kernel app to measure the watts
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With screen off, 0-100 in 1 hr 40 minutes. If the screen is on it'll charge normally. This is to prevent overheating and damage to the battery

devilhunter47 said:
With screen off, 0-100 in 1 hr 40 minutes. If the screen is on it'll charge normally. This is to prevent overheating and damage to the battery
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well my friend, i doubt it, cause i have rooted my A70 and used ACC (advanced charging control) to completely disable the cooldown thingy to fast charge, well, nothing helped, stuck at 14.4 watts for eternity
i mean...assuming your theory IS true, i tried leaving my phone screen off for 15 minutes, then opened it and checked the wattage from the notification...aaaaaand its still 14.4 watts, i mean, if what you say is true i should probably find it at like 25watts and it drops down 2 sec after i open the screen, but it NEVER reaches this 25 watts thingy, and the ampere app is stuck at 1200 max mAh

I think trying to work this out while running a custom kernel is a fool's errand. We have no idea how charging work with custom kernels yet, so you dont know if it's a kernel problem or a hardware problem. Since you dont seem to have tested this prior to switching the kernel, you have no baseline to compare it to other than what other people who are running official firmware are telling you..So not much help then.
I'll say this though, I checked mine with a power meter and not a software readout: 25w screen off, 10ish screen on. That's below 80% charge, anyway, at which point the consumption drops.

I think my A70 charges pretty fast and I'm okay with how fast it is, no matter the watts.

James.Miller said:
I think trying to work this out while running a custom kernel is a fool's errand. We have no idea how charging work with custom kernels yet, so you dont know if it's a kernel problem or a hardware problem. Since you dont seem to have tested this prior to switching the kernel, you have no baseline to compare it to other than what other people who are running official firmware are telling you..So not much help then.
I'll say this though, I checked mine with a power meter and not a software readout: 25w screen off, 10ish screen on. That's below 80% charge, anyway, at which point the consumption drops.
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i am already running the stock kernel, its just i patched it using magisk and that's it, so i believe there is no issue from my side as i am using the stock kernel

Mine is charging pretty fast, no issues on my part.

Question Thermal throttling

After 2 days of trial and error, it's thermal throttling due to battery temp.
It hits 96.20f on the battery and goes from 2.8mah at 15w to 8-900mah at 6w
Full charge speed comes back as soon as it's under 94f
This is something I never dealt with with my OnePlus phones....
6000mah always, no issues 40 minutes to full..
With my testing, I've found that,
While charging
Power saving mode with CPU throttle, screen rate throttle, Bluetooth off doesn't help keep it from throttling...
Charging, I can play a YouTube video slid to the side off the screen and browse the internet and after a good 10 minutes or so it's bouncing in and out of fast charging
Playing a game while charging get me around 400mah charging lol
Takes 10 minutes for a single percent when gaming when it gets up in temps
I'm a business owner and a heavy user when I'm using it.
I atleast now understand how it works and what the limits are.
Brightness is half way and on auto.
I would be fine with it getting a bit warmer to keep the fast charging going for sure...
Now I set it in front of the AC if I need some quick charging lol
Slight edit.. it even throttles charging when closed and not being used...

You telling me this phone I paid almost 2 grand for throttles like a baby after a little light use? I noticed today that Enhanced processing has been removed and the option to change the screens resolution has also been removed. I swear my note 20 ultra still kicks this phones butt

It's give or take, it doesn't like charging,
I was playing genshin impact when it got warm and dead lol, but when charging it's straddling the throttle on and off if your using it for sure, download battery charging monitor pro and watch for yourself
She games well I love it, I'm sure I'll be able to manage it, but just coming from a one plus it's mehh

Samsung has limited the charging speed while its in use since their old models blasted some time ago left and right. That is the reason samsung no longer gives faster charging speeds like other brands. We are stuck with 25w charging plus slow charging while using the mobile
It only hits full speed when the screen is off

eswar539 said:
Samsung has limited the charging speed shile its in use since their old models blasted some time ago left and right. That is the reason samsung no longer gives faster charging speeds like other brands. We are stuck with 25w charging plus slow charging while using the mobile
It only hits full speed when the screen is off
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Incorrect, I can take a screen recording. If the batter stays below 96f it won't throttle.
Like I said my fix is to put the phone in front of my ac for a minute flat for like 15 minutes of play while charging at full speed.
It has nothing to do with the screen being awake.. it's all on the battery temp.
I tested it by putting my phone in front of the AC when warmed up and as soon as it drops below 94 it's back to full speed.
Yes it's Samsung, but they will learn someday when other phone companies start pushing into the US like OnePlus has

Smittyzz said:
Incorrect, I can take a screen recording. If the batter stays below 96f it won't throttle.
Like I said my fix is to put the phone in front of my ac for a minute flat for like 15 minutes of play while charging at full speed.
It has nothing to do with the screen being awake.. it's all on the battery temp.
I tested it by putting my phone in front of the AC when warmed up and as soon as it drops below 94 it's back to full speed.
Yes it's Samsung, but they will learn someday when other phone companies start pushing into the US like OnePlus has
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pushing a battery thats charging full power is asking for a fire to happen. This is EXACTLY why Samsung and other manufacturers put these safety measures into play. Users think they know better when they don't and create safety hazards. Like dude please learn basics about batteries before you start a fire.

xlylegaman said:
pushing a battery thats charging full power is asking for a fire to happen. This is EXACTLY why Samsung and other manufacturers put these safety measures into play. Users think they know better when they don't and create safety hazards. Like dude please learn basics about batteries before you start a fire.
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For starters, I came from a one plus with 2x the charging speeds. What makes them so special to have it down?
And on top of that, I deal with lithium polymer batteries on a daily basis. Owning rc cars I've handled 100s of those "house burning down" batteries.
The phone doesn't even get warm.
I'm sorry your just used to following Samsung and what they say is the fastest standard for something lol
They gotta lack somewhere

I understood those limitations are for battery life. But you can be unhappy about it.
That's understandable and personally I don't care if the charging speed is not blazingly fast.

I remember my Note 7 well.