I just got my 9pro for 3 days and as an curiosity I have diagnosed my device with oneplus care app and it shows that the battery is faulty should I ask for a replacement based on this results?
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That's disconcerting message.
What's the ambient temperature and how hard is it running? If it's not running a heavy cpu load and the ambient temperature is below 85°F, it shouldn't be as hot as 104°F
While Li's can tolerate up to 150°F operating temperatures in general, in phones a 104° battery temp reading is hot.
It's at the point where I would power off the phone.
Does it still have a good run time?
Once an Li gets below 80% of its original capacity it's not a bad idea to replace it.
Li's can form Li dendrites over time that can short out a cell, which be a very bad event. This is rare though. Any signs of or physical damage are grounds for immediate replacement as they can fail violently.
Replacements are generally cheap. Even my difficult to repair Note 10+ battery replacement cost is only $30.
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That's disconcerting message.
What's the ambient temperature and how hard is it running? If it's not running a heavy cpu load and the ambient temperature is below 85°F, it shouldn't be as hot as 104°F
While Li's can tolerate up to 150°F operating temperatures in general, in phones a 104° battery temp reading is hot.
It's at the point where I would power off the phone.
Does it still have a good run time?
Once an Li gets below 80% of its original capacity it's not a bad idea to replace it.
Li's can form Li dendrites over time that can short out a cell, which be a very bad event. This is rare though. Any signs of or physical damage are grounds for immediate replacement as they can fail violently.
Replacements are generally cheap. Even my difficult to repair Note 10+ battery replacement cost is only $30.
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The ambient temperature is 84 degree F, and the CPU isn't under any load as i am not doing any task,.
Salilsarkar said:
The ambient temperature is 84 degree F, and the CPU isn't under any load as i am not doing any task,.
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I think they all show overheat in that app. Mine shows overheat in the ACCA app as well. Probably doesn't mean anything. I wouldn't worry about it.
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The ambient temperature is 84 degree F, and the CPU isn't under any load as i am not doing any task,.
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Replace it. It may only be a temperature sensor failure, hopefully in the battery.
Li's aren't worth taking a chance on as a runaway at the very least it will destroy the phone.
If it's discharging more than 2%@day with the phone power off completely replace it asap and do not attempt to charge it.
Never charge an Li that is near freezing... as it can trigger a firery runaway event.
Charging below 80F can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Never use water on a lithium fire as it reacts to water like burning magnesium, violently. Another reason they can be nasty if they explode near your skin. Not WP bad, but bad enough.
Agree, that app might be giving false alarm overheating scenario's...
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Replace it. It may only be a temperature sensor failure, hopefully in the battery.
Li's aren't worth taking a chance on as a runaway at the very least it will destroy the phone.
If it's discharging more than 2%@day with the phone power off completely replace it asap and do not attempt to charge it.
Never charge an Li that is near freezing... as it can trigger a firery runaway event.
Charging below 80F can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Never use water on a lithium fire as it reacts to water like burning magnesium, violently. Another reason they can be nasty if they explode near your skin. Not WP bad, but bad enough.
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I believe "overheat" is a simple bug. Mine shows the same at all times and battery temp is just fine.
Salilsarkar said:
The ambient temperature is 84 degree F, and the CPU isn't under any load as i am not doing any task,.
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WTF? All of this model is like this?
Note, if it is running at 104F you can certainly feel that. No sensor needed.
Below is a nominal reading for my Note 10+ in 72°F or so ambient temperature.
Same thing here with CPU-Z and I didn't have a single overheating problem, I think it's a bug.
Hypnoz69 said:
Same thing here with CPU-Z and I didn't have a single overheating problem, I think it's a bug.
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CPU-Z is known for doing stuff like that.
If it's the phone's app it's a different story.
I'm sorry the app is not available on the Play Store so I can't test with it.
Mine also shows the same with one plus care app. I think its a bug. Nothing to worry about.
DevChek gives a comprehensive temperature sensor readout of all sensors.
galaxys said:
Agree, that app might be giving false alarm overheating scenario's...
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Not just OnePlus care app ,devcheck ,cpu-z every app is showing the same overheating notification ,but in actuality the device isn't even slightly warm on touch .
nickporwal said:
Mine also shows the same with one plus care app. I think its a bug. Nothing to worry about.
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Mine shows this too ,is it happening with all the 9pro device?
Salilsarkar said:
Not just OnePlus care app ,devcheck ,cpu-z every app is showing the same overheating notification ,but in actuality the device isn't even slightly warm on touch .
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That's not good. If it's across the board for this model it's a bad product flaw.
If those readings are used during the charge cycle it could really screw things up.
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I'm sorry the app is not available on the Play Store so I can't test with it.
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Here you go:
blackhawk said:
That's not good. If it's across the board for this model it's a bad product flaw.
If those readings are used during the charge cycle it could really screw things up.
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Maybe continuously declaring the battery as an overheat condition allows OnePlus more control over its charging in the Android OS? Have no idea. Just a random guess. It's likely a bug, but the "overheat condition" that is set could possibly be on purpose. Regardless, it shouldn't be showing the word overheat obviously.
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That's not good. If it's across the board for this model it's a bad product flaw.
If those readings are used during the charge cycle it could really screw things up.
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I have contacted some people who own this device and it seems all the 9 pro devicies are behaving the same ,most of them are giving the overheating battery status across various apps like cpu-z, devcheck, OnePlus care etc.
bulletbling said:
Maybe continuously declaring the battery as an overheat condition allows OnePlus more control over its charging in the Android OS? Have no idea. Just a random guess. It's likely a bug, but the "overheat condition" that is set could possibly be on purpose. Regardless, it shouldn't be showing the word overheat obviously.
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It could cause charging to disengage or not engage at all. If it has fast charging it could completely skew the charging profile if that temperature input is used and could damage the battery. At lower temperatures (>50-72°F*) fast charging must not engage.
It could also trigger thermal throttling prematurely.
I would keep a close eye on it...
*not sure of the exact temperature that is the normal preset. Minimum of 82°F start charge temperature is best practice even when slow charging. It's an electrochemical reaction that needs heat to properly work.
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Hello,
I recently noticed that the phone is overheating after a prolonged use, especially during a HD game like dungeons defenders). So, the phone is quickly burning and unusable.
Maybe someone else has this problem ?
Thanks
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Tolcantor said:
Hello,
I recently noticed that the phone is overheating after a prolonged use, especially during a HD game like dungeons defenders). So, the phone is quickly burning and unusable.
Maybe someone else has this problem ?
Thanks
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Is the game performance being interfered by it?
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Why the winking smiley? Is this a joke..?
wilkomints said:
Why the winking smiley? Is this a joke..?
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Paranoid much?
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Paranoid much?
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Paranoid? Not really, no. Just found it odd that someone would ask a fairly normal question and then wink at the end. It's like asking someone if they'll fix your car and then winking at them - they'd be wondering whether you meant it as some sort of weird euphemism!
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hey'd be wondering whether you meant it as some sort of weird euphemism!
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Is your phone overheating?
All phones heat up a bit when gaming, especially these newer 3D games. Does it overheat? No. If it did, trust me you'd know lol.
djolebih said:
All phones heat up a bit when gaming, especially these newer 3D games. Does it overheat? No. If it did, trust me you'd know lol.
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If the heating interferes with the performance i'd call it overheating.. lets let him answer that.
eeeeeee said:
Is the game performance being interfered by it?
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No, the game runs fast in high quality, even if the phone is overheating.
But, the battery's temperature increases to 55°C.
My fingers burn when I'm playing a game :'(
PS : Idle temperature is 30-35°C.
Tolcantor said:
No, the game runs fast in high quality, even if the phone is overheating.
But, the battery's temperature increases to 55°C.
My fingers burn when I'm playing a game :'(
PS : Idle temperature is 30-35°C.
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55?
I would go ask for a replacement
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55?
I would go ask for a replacement
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You're probably right, but the phone is normally not released yet
But, I will ask for a replacement next week.
Apparently, it's not an isolate case : i saw on french forums that other people have the same problem.
We'll see next week if it's a problem appeared just on a few series, or not, when the phone will be sold in other countries...
funny thing, i heard One S is overheating as well
This doesn't sound like a reasonable complaint!! Its a full kitchen; a monster phone with a monster SoC; 4 full-speed cores + 12 GPU cores. Of course it'll heat up if you light it all up! LOL!
My advice is just don't push the performance envelope while you're charging the phone. The combined heat from the battery + the SoC can create some unpredictable results. I killed an HTC Diamond, a Sensation, and my HD2 screen TWICE doing just that (gaming hard while charging and once running IGo GPS for 4 hours while charging).... the end result is invariably unhappy
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This doesn't sound like a reasonable complaint!! Its a full kitchen; a monster phone with a monster SoC; 4 full-speed cores + 12 GPU cores. Of course it'll heat up if you light it all up! LOL!
My advice is just don't push the performance envelope while you're charging the phone. The combined heat from the battery + the SoC can create some unpredictable results. I killed an HTC Diamond, a Sensation, and my HD2 screen TWICE doing just that (gaming hard while charging and once running IGo GPS for 4 hours while charging).... the end result is invariably unhappy
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Weired.. I have the HD2 oced to 1.5Ghz, I almost always play heavy games while I charge it.. yet it has survived for more than 2 years..
Is this April fools or a serious issue? Can u share a screenshot of 55
dexteral said:
Is this April fools or a serious issue? Can u share a screenshot of 55
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If he wanted to fool us he would edit it anyway..
I really don't think it's even good as an april fools..
I'm quite sure 55 would leave permanent trace on the phone, both physically and performance wise.
Playing heavy games while charging will result in additional overheat. I have most of today's phones since I own a retail dealership and I know what I'm talking about.
I'm quite dubious about believing that the phone could ever possibly reach this kind of temperature.
I'm only running on the nexus one for now until i get my ONE X through, but still smashing games whilst charging the phone quickly gets up to 40 degrees C however at that temperature throttling kicks in.
The highest iv ever seen my N1 go is 42 degrees, now if they have shoved all the power under the hood in the new ONE X i find it hard to believe that they would not have any kind of throttling to prevent overheating
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This doesn't sound like a reasonable complaint!! Its a full kitchen; a monster phone with a monster SoC; 4 full-speed cores + 12 GPU cores. Of course it'll heat up if you light it all up! LOL!
My advice is just don't push the performance envelope while you're charging the phone. The combined heat from the battery + the SoC can create some unpredictable results. I killed an HTC Diamond, a Sensation, and my HD2 screen TWICE doing just that (gaming hard while charging and once running IGo GPS for 4 hours while charging).... the end result is invariably unhappy
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but 55 is too hot to handle.. well, not really, but still pretty uncomfortable..
i cant imagine alighting from the bus or train, locking my phone and slotting it into the pocket of my jeans, all while it is at 55.. that might not fry my legs, but still, not very cool..
fi3ry_icy said:
but 55 is too hot to handle.. well, not really, but still pretty uncomfortable..
i cant imagine alighting from the bus or train, locking my phone and slotting it into the pocket of my jeans, all while it is at 55.. that might not fry my legs, but still, not very cool..
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I can't imagine you alighting from a bus or train having been simultaneously gaming and charging. And frankly, in the absence of any evidence, I don't believe anybody's phone hit 55 or anywhere near, unless we're talking fahrenheit. ;-)
Basically I've had a Sprint Galaxy Nexus since it launched and I've been plagued with heat issues under even light load, but under heavy load its so bad that it is thermal throttling about 90% of the time after only 2 minutes of use.
And by that I mean it is running at 65c after less than 2 minutes of any 3D game, where it begins thermal throttling to control the temperature, and every game becomes unplayable. The device can easily heat to 60c by simply scrolling a webpage but 65c is the threshold where the device is simply unusable. I know we should expect some heat due to passive cooling rather than active cooling, but in this state, my phone is only good for email and music.
So I'm ready to take it into my own hands and modify my phone. I have no idea what type of heatsink is in this thing as I have not taken it apart yet. I am hoping the issue is simply that the heatsink didn't have proper thermal compound on it and I can just treat it like a PC, but if thats not the problem, I'm wondering if this is going to be beyond my ability.
Are there improved heatsinks for phones on the market? I don't even know where to start
ExEvolution said:
Basically I've had a Sprint Galaxy Nexus since it launched and I've been plagued with heat issues under even light load, but under heavy load its so bad that it is thermal throttling about 90% of the time after only 2 minutes of use.
And by that I mean it is running at 65c after less than 2 minutes of any 3D game, where it begins thermal throttling to control the temperature, and every game becomes unplayable. The device can easily heat to 60c by simply scrolling a webpage but 65c is the threshold where the device is simply unusable. I know we should expect some heat due to passive cooling rather than active cooling, but in this state, my phone is only good for email and music.
So I'm ready to take it into my own hands and modify my phone. I have no idea what type of heatsink is in this thing as I have not taken it apart yet. I am hoping the issue is simply that the heatsink didn't have proper thermal compound on it and I can just treat it like a PC, but if thats not the problem, I'm wondering if this is going to be beyond my ability.
Are there improved heatsinks for phones on the market? I don't even know where to start
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I'm pretty sure smartphones especially this phone don't have heatsinks lol
If you're going to modify, just try out some kernels. Most, if not all custom kernels have Smartreflex control to calculate how much voltage the CPU needs in order to run a certain frequency at the lowest possible stable voltage. Undervolting will help some heating issues.
Remember, this phone can take heat up to 100+ Celsius before needing to reboot automatically to cool down. And the TI-OMAP is not the most heat efficient processor to begin with. It is from 2011.
Really disappointed with under volting after spending 4 hours rooting my device and putting paranoid android my temps have only gotten worse. 75c after 3 minutes of a game
ExEvolution said:
Really disappointed with under volting after spending 4 hours rooting my device and putting paranoid android my temps have only gotten worse. 75c after 3 minutes of a game
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I think his problem is the hardware itself. He said this was a problem see he got the phone from launch. I'm scratching my head as to why he still kept the phone and didn't have it replaced. My phone runs around 55 Celsius on higher load so I think the phone's cooling isn't working right and he should have gotten a replacement.
DroidOnRoids said:
I think his problem is the hardware itself. He said this was a problem see he got the phone from launch. I'm scratching my head as to why he still kept the phone and didn't have it replaced. My phone runs around 55 Celsius on higher load so I think the phone's cooling isn't working right and he should have gotten a replacement.
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Actually it depends mine, with a TPU cover and 35 degrees outside, heats up pretty quickly. Right now i'm indoor with air conditioned, Gnex undervolted and fixed at 350MHz, only playing some music + usb charging, and CPU temp hovers around 41C. I'll try to play with it once at home and see if the undervolt actually helped.
Also noticed that some well programmed games (such as Mini Motor Racing), despite the great smooth graphic, they heat up the phone very little. On the other hand, simple card games made my Gnex almost untouchable, go figure.
Here. Also attached is the temperature reading from TempMonitor right after closing the game in the top left
Ok so after being completely unimpressed with paranoid android, I'm torn on which rom I should try next. I had no data on PA but got that fixed thanks to a topic on here
Feimitsu, which kernel are you running? I'm using what I guess is franco kernel that came with PA
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Ok so after being completely unimpressed with paranoid android, I'm torn on which rom I should try next. I had no data on PA but got that fixed thanks to a topic on here
Feimitsu, which kernel are you running? I'm using what I guess is franco kernel that came with PA
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I'm on A.S.K.P. and my gnex is much cooler...
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ExEvolution said:
Basically I've had a Sprint Galaxy Nexus since it launched and I've been plagued with heat issues under even light load, but under heavy load its so bad that it is thermal throttling about 90% of the time after only 2 minutes of use.
And by that I mean it is running at 65c after less than 2 minutes of any 3D game, where it begins thermal throttling to control the temperature, and every game becomes unplayable. The device can easily heat to 60c by simply scrolling a webpage but 65c is the threshold where the device is simply unusable. I know we should expect some heat due to passive cooling rather than active cooling, but in this state, my phone is only good for email and music.
So I'm ready to take it into my own hands and modify my phone. I have no idea what type of heatsink is in this thing as I have not taken it apart yet. I am hoping the issue is simply that the heatsink didn't have proper thermal compound on it and I can just treat it like a PC, but if thats not the problem, I'm wondering if this is going to be beyond my ability.
Are there improved heatsinks for phones on the market? I don't even know where to start
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What is the average temperature in your country ? Because 60 degrees while scrolling a webpage is impossible for me to recreate. These temperatures you are having is not strange when the average ambient temperature is around 30 degrees. If that's not the case then try Slimbean alpha 3.1 which comes with LeanKernel 8.0. Make a full wipe if possible !
DroidOnRoids said:
I think his problem is the hardware itself. He said this was a problem see he got the phone from launch. I'm scratching my head as to why he still kept the phone and didn't have it replaced. My phone runs around 55 Celsius on higher load so I think the phone's cooling isn't working right and he should have gotten a replacement.
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Zanera said:
What is the average temperature in your country ? Because 60 degrees while scrolling a webpage is impossible for me to recreate. These temperatures you are having is not strange when the average ambient temperature is around 30 degrees. If that's not the case then try Slimbean alpha 3.1 which comes with LeanKernel 8.0. Make a full wipe if possible !
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I'd say the average outdoor temperatures are around 75f or 24c in the summer,
Okay so I came across this stuff while surfing through and it caught my attention. Supposedly a breakthrough product set to increase the battery life by up to 3 times and also improves recharge time and usage. Now I'm very very skeptical about this and honestly think its a load of crap but who am i to judge. I'm interested to know if any of you have tried it before. Check out the link to their website.
http://www.akkufresh.com/en/
Edit : Here are some of their claims from the official website. You can see the technical jargons they put as well on the site.
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Raises charging ability of the battery
Offers more talk time and a longer stand-by-time
Shortens charging time up to 40% / Reduces the charging frequency
Recovers worn or deteriorated batteries. / Restores the original performance
Installed in seconds
Stops further battery deterioration
Prolongs the total battery life span with up to 200% longer lifetime (total charging cycles)
Protects the battery from electrical variations by regulating and filtering the current
Saves money by delaying the need to purchase new batteries
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Okay so I came across this stuff while surfing through and it caught my attention. Supposedly a breakthrough product set to increase the battery life by up to 3 times and also improves recharge time and usage. Now I'm very very skeptical about this and honestly think its a load of crap but who am i to judge. I'm interested to know if any of you have tried it before. Check out the link to their website.
http://www.akkufresh.com/en/
Edit : Here are some of their claims from the official website. You can see the technical jargons they put as well on the site.
Raises charging ability of the battery
Offers more talk time and a longer stand-by-time
Shortens charging time up to 40% / Reduces the charging frequency
Recovers worn or deteriorated batteries. / Restores the original performance
Installed in seconds
Stops further battery deterioration
Prolongs the total battery life span with up to 200% longer lifetime (total charging cycles)
Protects the battery from electrical variations by regulating and filtering the current
Saves money by delaying the need to purchase new batteries
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Looks like a load of bologna.
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Looks like a load of bologna.
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If it were true then I think they have successfully defied one of the most well known laws of physics.
So a sticker on the battery is supposed to do all that? Sigh... The sad thing is some people will actually buy it, and I'm sure some will even swear it works. Probably the same people who bought those stick on antenna boosters from years back. I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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So a sticker on the battery is supposed to do all that? Sigh... The sad thing is some people will actually buy it, and I'm sure some will even swear it works. Probably the same people who bought those stick on antenna boosters from years back. I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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But, but, but... the infomercial said it would work wonders!
_MetalHead_ said:
So a sticker on the battery is supposed to do all that? Sigh... The sad thing is some people will actually buy it, and I'm sure some will even swear it works. Probably the same people who bought those stick on antenna boosters from years back. I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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According to that picture, it's not even a sticker on the battery, but on the back of the phone...ridiculous.
Edit: I looked at the site and it is indeed on the battery. Not sure why the iPhone picture looks like that.
I also love this bit "Several charging cycles (5-10) are required for noticeable improvement in battery life"
I haven't laughed out loud at work in a while ....thx!!!!
PsychDrummer said:
According to that picture, it's not even a sticker on the battery, but on the back of the phone...ridiculous.
Edit: I looked at the site and it is indeed on the battery. Not sure why the iPhone picture looks like that.
I also love this bit "Several charging cycles (5-10) are required for noticeable improvement in battery life"
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It's because the iPhone doesn't have a removable battery so you have to put the sticker on the back of the phone instead. That's how amazingly powerful these things are, they work through a metal phone body. This is serious technology guys.
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I am slowly but surely losing all faith in humanity.
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LOL. Here's a quote from Einstein you may have heard:
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
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Comon guys with a website like that its hard not to take em serious at some point
Meme worthy lol.
The sad part is, people will actually buy them and under placebo say it actually does something.
Hello,
I have 4 stickers and I am testing them on the EEE 701 pc battery that has 4 lithium cells. so one stickers for each cell.
they were near to be death, 10 minutes charge. Now the pc does stay on for 1 hour after 5 cycles.
and they're not even covering 80% as they suggest to do.
nanotechnology is something you should never undervalue, and it is the only reason I looked at it and got to test.
I have other 'ancient' lithium battery to test and will do it.
Niko-16 said:
Hello,
I have 4 stickers and I am testing them on the EEE 701 pc battery that has 4 lithium cells. so one stickers for each cell.
they were near to be death, 10 minutes charge. Now the pc does stay on for 1 hour after 5 cycles.
and they're not even covering 80% as they suggest to do.
nanotechnology is something you should never undervalue, and it is the only reason I looked at it and got to test.
I have other 'ancient' lithium battery to test and will do it.
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Yeah and just because it's supposed "nanotechnology" doesn't mean it does a damn thing. Use your noggin, it's a sticker. Calling it nanotechnology is just an easy marketing trick, just like calling things HD. Ignorant consumers bite, hook, line, and sinker. If this miracle tech was baked INTO the battery, that's one thing, but again, it's just a sticker. Don't you think if it was real that battery manufacturers would have jumped all over it? It's a scam.
So I have been playing with Advanced Charging Controller for 1 week now and I am trying to find a good setup for it specifically for this phone. I have seen dev's recommendations on github (limit to 3920mV up to 60% and 4100mV up to 75%) but I wanted to know your opinions on this. Maybe add cooldowns too (stop charging for 1 minute to lower the temperature).
Personally I use ACCA (from Magisk "store") since ± 1year (on OnePlus 6 previously) in order to keep my battery in the healthiest shape.
My regular settings is to stop charging when reaching 80% and restart at 75%; but also to avoid to go lower than 20% and to use the fast charger provided in the box only exceptionally.
michelD said:
Personally I use ACCA (from Magisk "store") since ± 1year (on OnePlus 6 previously) in order to keep my battery in the healthiest shape.
My regular settings is to stop charging when reaching 80% and restart at 75%; but also to avoid to go lower than 20% and to use the fast charger provided in the box only exceptionally.
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Why would you restart at 75%? You wouldn't really be advised to go over 75% let alone letting it restart charging at 75% (when you plug it overnight for example).
stavrosbin said:
Why would you restart at 75%? You wouldn't really be advised to go over 75% let alone letting it restart charging at 75% (when you plug it overnight for example).
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In fact, I recharge quasi exclusively during the night, and with 75%, I'm sure that, in the worst case, I start my day with 75% which is in general largely enough for my usage.
I hope it clarifies.
This being said, temperature is also very destructive for batteries, it's why I tuned ACCA to keep it below 45°C.
shutdown capacity 35%, cool down capacity 20% resume capacity 50%, pause capacity 55%
cool down temp 35°C
cool down ratio 20 10
cool down current 100
maximum current 400
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michelD said:
In fact, I recharge quasi exclusively during the night, and with 75%, I'm sure that, in the worst case, I start my day with 75% which is in general largely enough for my usage.
I hope it clarifies.
This being said, temperature is also very destructive for batteries, it's why I tuned ACCA to keep it below 45°C.
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I get what you mean. It sounds interesting but for my case I won't really sweat it for that extra 5% (recharging from 70 to 75%) because I don't really use it at work and it has like 0.5%/hour discharging rate overnight.
pl1992aw said:
shutdown capacity 35%, cool down capacity 20% resume capacity 50%, pause capacity 55%
cool down temp 35°C
cool down ratio 20 10
cool down current 100
maximum current 400
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Do you have it plugged all the time? How isn't your battery dropping under 45%?
stavrosbin said:
Do you have it plugged all the time? How isn't your battery dropping under 45%?
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Phone had long time on standby. Didn't use phone much.
Charge when it drop below 50% and accessible to power.
pl1992aw said:
Phone had long time on standby. Didn't use phone much.
Charge when it drop below 50% and accessible to power.
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Oh I see. This is probably too much Hussle for me. I guess I will try to use your other options (cool down and stuff).
stavrosbin said:
Oh I see. This is probably too much Hussle for me. I guess I will try to use your other options (cool down and stuff).
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Make sure you know what each parameter means and does.
You need to have a bit knowledge of physics.
The settings posted previously will significantly slow down the charging speed. It will stop charging at 55%. Phone will shutdown at 35%.
After configuration set, reboot to see the effect.
pl1992aw said:
Make sure you know what each parameter means and does.
You need to have a bit knowledge of physics.
The settings posted previously will significantly slow down the charging speed. It will stop charging at 55%. Phone will shutdown at 35%.
After configuration set, reboot to see the effect.
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Wouldn't setting most of those settings from AccA work without rebooting?
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Wouldn't setting most of those settings from AccA work without rebooting?
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The change of "current" need reboot to take effect.
This information is written by the author in his README file.
pl1992aw said:
The change of "current" need reboot to take effect.
This information is written by the author in his README file.
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Well yeah that's why I said most. Hopefully I can make the calculation so that I can let it go up to 75% since I don't want it just charging to 55%. Maybe trial and error will work for that I guess. If you have any insights on that feel free to help I guess. My ideal charge would be 25-75%.
Right now I have set a 750mah charging limit with 4100mV limit so that it finally reaches around 75% but I haven't really implemented any cooldowns at all. But, I am pretty sure the 4.1V cap makes the cooldown redundant. What do you think?
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Well yeah that's why I said most. Hopefully I can make the calculation so that I can let it go up to 75% since I don't want it just charging to 55%. Maybe trial and error will work for that I guess. If you have any insights on that feel free to help I guess. My ideal charge would be 25-75%.
Right now I have set a 750mah charging limit with 4100mV limit so that it finally reaches around 75% but I haven't really implemented any cooldowns at all. But, I am pretty sure the 4.1V cap makes the cooldown redundant. What do you think?
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The charging indication will not change rapidly while cooldown.
You need some apps to observe the current change,
ampere app for example.
Personally did not set voltage limit, so those are blank.
pl1992aw said:
The charging indication will not change rapidly while cooldown.
You need some apps to observe the current change,
ampere app for example.
Personally did not set voltage limit, so those are blank.
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Yeah I have been using Ampere to check the temps and V. I guess I will have to play with things. Thanks a lot man!
pl1992aw said:
shutdown capacity 35%, cool down capacity 20% resume capacity 50%, pause capacity 55%
cool down temp 35°C
cool down ratio 20 10
cool down current 100
maximum current 400
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LMAO, that's calling taking battery health conservation to the extreme.
Live a little and use your phone...nothing lasts forever.
Nemix77 said:
LMAO, that's calling taking battery health conservation to the extreme.
Live a little and use your phone...nothing lasts forever.
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Well, recently always in front PC. Larger screen better. So phone stay mostly standby for phone calls.
That's the reason set that profile.
Hello!
so, I don't know why i didn't post my problem before but, here I am.
I have two xiaomi mi a2 lite international version bought in argentina, one with android stock fully upgraded and the other with havoc.
the problem is:
sometimes the battery charges at like 1400ma (or something along those lines) and the majority of the time charges at 500ma and sometimes 0ma or even -100ma (this info is taken mostly from accubattery)
I've already changed the charging board on both(for other reasons) but this didn't solve the problem
I have 3 chargers (each with its own cable) and all of them behave the same.(i could have tree ****ty cables? could be, the cables are not the expensive ones)
here some screenshots: accubattery and at the bottom of the lock screen on the havoc ROM
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for what i see accubattery always is a lot lower on the mA compared with the lock screen
if anyone have a solution or troubleshooting process to check whats happening i will appreciate it.(this is going for like for 3 months)
(I'm comfortable with disassembly and probing with multimeter if necessary / rooting / formating)
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sometimes when it shows negative numbers and on those cases does not charge or does very slowly
sometimes the phones charge like 5% on 2 hours or so, and this happens most of the time on the stock firmware phone, the havoc one always has been more reliable even before installing havoc
thank you in advance
PS:sorry for bad english c:
You understand that you won't get full charge rates with the screen on? The power controller ramps down the battery charge current as soon as the display is on to protect the battery.
Accubattery will momentarily display the off rate for about a second after you turn on the display; it's sampling rate is once a second. Battery history gives roughtly accurate screen off charge amount and time.
Many fast chargers will not engage if the battery start temperature is too low. Best start temperature for Li's is 82-90F, 72F minimum.
If battery temperature gets too high fast charging will disengage.
The brick and cable must support fast charging by meeting that device's protocols.
If it's a graphene battery it's low temperature parameters are likely similar.
blackhawk said:
You understand that you won't get full charge rates with the screen on? The power controller ramps down the battery charge current as soon as the display is on to protect the battery.
Accubattery will momentarily display the off rate for about a second after you turn on the display; it's sampling rate is once a second. Battery history gives roughtly accurate screen off charge amount and time.
Many fast chargers will not engage if the battery start temperature is too low. Best start temperature for Li's is 82-90F, 72F minimum.
If battery temperature gets too high fast charging will disengage.
The brick and cable must support fast charging by meeting that device's protocols.
If it's a graphene battery it's low temperature parameters are likely similar.
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yes, i know that, but as i mention on the post, sometimes it shous even negative numbers and on those cases does not charge. and i forget to mention, sometimes the phones charge like 5% on 2 hours or so, and this happens most of the time on the stock firmware phone, the havoc one always has been more reliable even before installing havoc
Use know good brick/cable.
Consider a battery failure if capacity has diminished significantly especially quickly.
Any swelling is a battery failure.
Otherwise a charge port pcb or mobo failure.
If happening on more than one device, is the brick getting clean AC? Hot/neutral vs hot/ground wires are correct on wall socket? Voltage correct? Generally they are fairly insensitive to voltage fluctuations but if it falls too low they will charge slowly.
A power surge may have damaged one or more chargers but normally they are just dead when that happens.
blackhawk said:
Use know good brick/cable.
Consider a battery failure if capacity has diminished significantly especially quickly.
Any swelling is a battery failure.
Otherwise a charge port pcb or mobo failure.
If happening on more than one device, is the brick getting clean AC? Hot/neutral vs hot/ground wires are correct on wall socket? Voltage correct? Generally they are fairly insensitive to voltage fluctuations but if it falls too low they will charge slowly.
A power surge may have damaged one or more chargers but normally they are just dead when that happens.
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capacity its ok
not swelling
port pcb changed recently
mobo maybe
for what i know on my house, hot-neutral are inverted(yeah idk what was thinking the dude that wire this place) this could be a problem?
will try charging with an stabilizer and check if voltage fluctuation is a problem.
PS: thank you a lot
thiagosch said:
capacity its ok
not swelling
port pcb changed recently
mobo maybe
for what i know on my house, hot-neutral are inverted(yeah idk what was thinking the dude that wire this place) this could be a problem?
will try charging with an stabilizer and check if voltage fluctuation is a problem.
PS: thank you a lot
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Inverted is the same for the charger.
Makes you wonder about who did the wiring though. Might not be a bad idea the check the main breaker box sometime.
Something putting high frequency spikes on the line might mess with it.
Try another circuit in the house.
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Inverted is the same for the charger.
Makes you wonder about who did the wiring though. Might not be a bad idea the check the main breaker box sometime.
Something putting high frequency spikes on the line might mess with it.
Try another circuit in the house.
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sometime ago i checked the box for this particular reason, i was measuring earth(because some home appliances were shocking me, yep also some grounds were disconnected and thrown inside a junction box) and found out that they were inverted, and its from the main breaker input, i could fix it but i don't trust that no one is going to flip the outside main switch on while i have a wire on my hand.
oh... high frecuency spikes could come from a fridge without ground? I've never checked the fridge socket because is behind it, may well be running without ground...
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just checked, fridge has ground
thiagosch said:
oh... high frecuency spikes could come from a fridge without ground? I've never checked the fridge socket because is behind it, may well be running without ground...
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Probably not. Try a different circuit though.