Almost all custom Roms are not even updated since last year. The custom Rom or Android development for Honor 8 Pro is totally off? Why is that?
Even after oreo release, feels like no one interested.
update: Honor released kernel source for honor 8 pro
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro-honor-9-android-oreo-kernel-source/
personally, i feel that this is due to the fact that:
* many are happy for stock ROM
* stock ROM has got a lot of features and options for all sorts of ppl
* in terms of optmisation and efficiency, modern day version of Android don't really drain that much.
* battery tech has improved and we see phones packing bigger battery. so, ppl no longer than concerned abt battery life
* limited user-base -- so ROM developers are better off spending their time on phones with larger user-base, thus getting better feedback and attention
mydragoon said:
personally, i feel that this is due to the fact that:
* many are happy for stock ROM
* stock ROM has got a lot of features and options for all sorts of ppl
* in terms of optmisation and efficiency, modern day version of Android don't really drain that much.
* battery tech has improved and we see phones packing bigger battery. so, ppl no longer than concerned abt battery life
* limited user-base -- so ROM developers are better off spending their time on phones with larger user-base, thus getting better feedback and attention
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You are right, Thanks.
Just After honor ditch us, no chance of Getting future android experience ?
Honor left honor 8 pro.
Honor is fully focused on AI based honor view 10, the selected developer were given free honor view 10 handsets for its support and development of rom's in future. Honor has ditched the honor 8 pro.
The developers started working on honor view 10 and developed treble lineage os 15.1 rom based on Oreo 8.1 for kirin 970 devices.
Even the magisk and substrantum support is given for honor view 10.
I think this is my last honor device ??.
mukeshreddy1994 said:
Honor is fully focused on AI based honor view 10, the selected developer were given free honor view 10 handsets for its support and development of rom's in future. Honor has ditched the honor 8 pro.
The developers started working on honor view 10 and developed treble lineage os 15.1 rom based on Oreo 8.1 for kirin 970 devices.
Even the magisk and substrantum support is given for honor view 10.
I think this is my last honor device .
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personally, i dun expect much since honor 8 Pro is a one year old device (using China's V9 as the actual launch). honor already launched a replacement device and if they actually continue to promote older device, then there's something not right with their strategy. so, it's only right that they get support for newer device instead, which is the View 10.
and the Q is... do i need custom rom? nope. i dun think i need it. and do i think it's needed for even View 10? nope... dun think it's needed.
many reasons why i dun think custom rom needed is in my first reply above.
mydragoon said:
personally, i dun expect much since honor 8 Pro is a one year old device (using China's V9 as the actual launch). honor already launched a replacement device and if they actually continue to promote older device, then there's something not right with their strategy. so, it's only right that they get support for newer device instead, which is the View 10.
and the Q is... do i need custom rom? nope. i dun think i need it. and do i think it's needed for even View 10? nope... dun think it's needed.
many reasons why i dun think custom rom needed is in my first reply above.
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I heard yesterday, Honor had removed Kernal sources for Honor 8 pro(or V9)[after its launched] that's a big problem also for custom roms.
Even in their own website the stock firmware is not available, no even it's name.
Stock rom might ne good, but Many people seeks for Future taste of Android. Honor already ditch us, The only way we could have taste Android p or Android Q using custom roms and now that also not possible.
Where as they are making sure Honor view 10 get erd party development supports.
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I heard yesterday, Honor had removed Kernal sources for Honor 8 pro(or V9)[after its launched] that's a big problem also for custom roms.
Even in their own website the stock firmware is not available, no even it's name.
Stock rom might ne good, but Many people seeks for Future taste of Android. Honor already ditch us, The only way we could have taste Android p or Android Q using custom roms and now that also not possible.
Where as they are making sure Honor view 10 get erd party development supports.
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i bought the honor 8 Pro because it is a good phone. great specs at affordable price. i din get it so i could get the latest version of Android. to me, so long as it works and it's patched (and while it's inconsistent but the updates have been coming from Honor), i'm fine with it.
and based on the above, honor 8 Pro is still a good phone. i don't really care about the latest Android version. what is more important is that i'm using the smartphone for what it can do -- connecting me. and it's doing a great job at that.
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i bought the honor 8 Pro because it is a good phone. great specs at affordable price. i din get it so i could get the latest version of Android. to me, so long as it works and it's patched (and while it's inconsistent but the updates have been coming from Honor), i'm fine with it.
and based on the above, honor 8 Pro is still a good phone. i don't really care about the latest Android version. what is more important is that i'm using the smartphone for what it can do -- connecting me. and it's doing a great job at that.
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U r right, It will still be a very good phone with good specs nod doubt.
Everyone has their own view.
Some people's like custom development.
And Huawei doing open source for view 10 and removing 8pro(v9)'s kernal sources is really disappointing.
When honor8pro was launched, Huawei/Honor out up a show like this is device is going to get all the required attention and care. Instead they struggled with patches itself. Not even updates, fhey couldn't make working patches.
They looked for market and found one. That's it. US market is unreachable at least for an year or two, so a new strategy is to push as many devices as they can in current markets while lobbying for US market.
Honor tried or picturized a Xiaomi like strategy but went Samsung ish. Hardware wise 8pro is matchless in its tier but then there isn't much you can boast about it on realtime usage. They nerfed battery when some issues started its that bad.
It's a compromise device that has been further compromised. I feel honor is a sinking ship. They're severely dependent on marketing than letting phones prove themselves. They have paid Android authority and even Xda well to keep featuring posts or reviews about their phones. So that neo nerds or spec hungry guys can devour these devices and guys like these are usually the ones that are looked up or called up by less nerdy or less tech literates for their next best phone.
Such fake image doesn't hold long and easily shatters. Just like one plus which promised big things and promised support and longevity unlike google... and then just ditched all that, Honor too promised devices with better specs and better support but well... at this rate honor 10view will bite the dust soon as well, or if things keep going bad for honor/Huawei they might loop back.
Only time will tell. But for now it sure is bleak for Honor8pro. There isn't a way to jump to custom roms either. So when **** hits the cieling this phone will be a glorified remote control.
In Nutshell, most of us in india got this device with buyback from flipkart, 1st week march that awaited period start. Time to switch back to some soft-support team with decent hardware, ASAP. My bid is back to moto. whats others planning ?
Regards,
sunilnair007 said:
In Nutshell, most of us in india got this device with buyback from flipkart, 1st week march that awaited period start. Time to switch back to some soft-support team with decent hardware, ASAP. My bid is back to moto. whats others planning ?
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I didn't took buyback guarantee ?:crying:
Honor 8 pro is the most neglected so called "Flagship killer" of 2017/18.
Shortly after the release of 8 pro, they had taken down all official firmware sources.
View 10 is view 10 all over the globe. 8 pro is just a 128 GB variant of V9. So it has been completely neglected.
When Honor was questioned as to why firmware sources were removed, they gave a dumb reply saying it was HQ decision and they have least control over it.
This is like being in Apple ecosystem. Very sad to see such a potential device being neglected completely.
Honor has suddenly started focusing on lower budget segment in India after 8 pro's launch. Devices like 9 lite are starting to see updates for Face Unlock and yester year Flagship 8 pro is still with buggy Oreo update which they cannot fix.
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Honor 8 pro is the most neglected so called "Flagship killer" of 2017/18.
Shortly after the release of 8 pro, they had taken down all official firmware sources.
View 10 is view 10 all over the globe. 8 pro is just a 128 GB variant of V9. So it has been completely neglected.
When Honor was questioned as to why firmware sources were removed, they gave a dumb reply saying it was HQ decision and they have least control over it.
This is like being in Apple ecosystem. Very sad to see such a potential device being neglected completely.
Honor has suddenly started focusing on lower budget segment in India after 8 pro's launch. Devices like 9 lite are starting to see updates for Face Unlock and yester year Flagship 8 pro is still with buggy Oreo update which they cannot fix.
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Honor is a dumb ass!! ?
Go to honor view 10 thread and flash RR OS. Works flawlessly on honor 8 pro. Just some glitches here and there. What custom ROM support do you guys want more?
kumar akarsh said:
Go to honor view 10 thread and flash RR OS. Works flawlessly on honor 8 pro. Just some glitches here and there. What custom ROM support do you guys want more?
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How is it working?
Is it because of project treble support?,
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How is it working?
Is it because of project treble support?,
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its working quite good for me. yes it is because of treble.
kumar akarsh said:
its working quite good for me. yes it is because of treble.
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Then maybe With a bit of modification developers can port those rom to H8p.
Just No one will be interested:crying:
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Then maybe With a bit of modification developers can port those rom to H8p.
Just No one will be interested:crying:
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lol. why port an already working ROM. it works like a charm with only few issues:
1. some animations are choppy(doesn't concern me much)
2. no volte(i don't need it)
3. no stock camera(will be added soon)
4. minor graphical glitches. (doesn't affect the overall interface)
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lol. why port an already working ROM. it works like a charm with only few issues:
1. some animations are choppy(doesn't concern me much)
2. no volte(i don't need it)
3. no stock camera(will be added soon)
4. minor graphical glitches. (doesn't affect the overall interface)
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VOLTE is a big concern for me. Atleast in India.
Ok, lets not call it port----, fixing those glitches.
And jst turn of animation scale?, no problem of transitions.
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VOLTE is a big concern for me. Atleast in India.
Ok, lets not call it port----, fixing those glitches.
And jst turn of animation scale, no problem of transitions.
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next aosp build by oldDroid will be much stable. but volte will take some time. we now have same rates on all operators. switch to some other.
6 devices in a year ?
Hope this starategy does not affect the speed of main OTA releases for all devices in the future. I cannot imagine myself tolerating an expensive stock android-like device getting late updates.
OnePlus wants to cover full spectrum of devices
I'm really disappointed on the lack of development for the n10 5g. Wish I'd checked it out before buying
One plus is only committing to one update on the Nord N10 5G. Android 12 beta is about be released and I'm still on Android 10. Not very impressed with my first One plus.
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One plus is only committing to one update on the Nord N10 5G. Android 12 beta is about be released and I'm still on Android 10. Not very impressed with my first One plus.
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This a cheap phone as one plus phones go. If we had purchased a one plus 8 or nine we would not be disappointed. I've previously had the flagship phones, but bought this on because of the price, so this is what we get.
For under $300.00 it's a outstanding piece of hardware. There may be more development when the updates stop. Keep in mind the nonnords don't take SD cards. Beyond that, finding something you can unlock this easily.
Finally got my Nord N10 5G updated to Android 11 last night.
Hi, i want to buy this phone for my father, is it still worth to buy this phone in 2021?
Does this phone have google or miui dialer, call recording is necessary for him?
It is still a great phone and really really value for the price. Especially during these Big Billion sales the prices have come down to bare minimum I would say. Plus yes, it does have miui dialer and messages hence call recording and even auto call recording are there.
But one thing to note is that Poco is not providing many updates to the phone and at present the miui 12 with android 11 on phone is stable with only minor bugs but I cannot be sure with the upcoming updates will it break or not. Hence I would strongly recommend a Realme or other brand since it's for your dad. He will be better of staying away from miui.
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It is still a great phone and really really value for the price. Especially during these Big Billion sales the prices have come down to bare minimum I would say. Plus yes, it does have miui dialer and messages hence call recording and even auto call recording are there.
But one thing to note is that Poco is not providing many updates to the phone and at present the miui 12 with android 11 on phone is stable with only minor bugs but I cannot be sure with the upcoming updates will it break or not. Hence I would strongly recommend a Realme or other brand since it's for your dad. He will be better of staying away from miui.
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I am new to these forums. I was wondering if I buy this phone now, will it come with google dialer ?
(Just like, some laptop companies have announced that their old models will come with Windows 11 Pre Installed) ?
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I am new to these forums. I was wondering if I buy this phone now, will it come with google dialer ?
(Just like, some laptop companies have announced that their old models will come with Windows 11 Pre Installed) ?
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It will have Miui dialer. Google dialer has not been added to poco m2 pro till date hence it won't be added.
My OP 6 is slow as hell because of the bad (update) support from OP with updates and the screen just cracked so I am looking to buy a new phone. With the upcoming OP10 and the review from jerryrigseverything I will not spend my money on that thing because my phone will lay everywhere and will be in every pocket. Although the bad reputation OP is getting themselves in {Mod edit} I am not ready to leave the brand yet (Samsungs get slow as hell as well after a few years and other brands ask way above 1k as well for a phone). Thinking about getting the 9 Pro after the 10 is out to get it for cheap but I noticed that de Nord 2 CE is out as well. Is this a better phone (or close to the 9 Pro) in terms of performance and all or not?
Would it be better to get the Nord 2 CE instead of the 9 Pro?
Totally different goals for each device. OP9 Pro has a flagship SoC and Nord CE 2 is focused on average users. The hardware doesn't replicate the same premium features (the body is covered with plastic, the screen isn't so bright and the refresh rating reaches up to 90Hz).
Look at the 9RT else the Iqoo 9 / 9 Pro. The new Mi series is also good. Nord 3 might release soon. My OP6 was working fine but needed a new phone so sold that and got the 9RT. It's good enough.
If the price is close 9 Pro. Just better.
10 Pro Global is still young in OxygenOS, still got some bug's...
How many Major OS update will receive this Phone? Is there a clear plan for Update ZTE phones?
Asked them this Question and got this:
Dear Valued RedMagic Customer,
Thank you for your patience,
Sorry, we have no definite information on this, please pay attention to the update on the official website.
Generally, lately, they tend to release security updates/fixes for a bit and 1 platform update (red magic 6 pro got update from 11 to 12) idk if 6 pro will get update to 13 or if 7 pro will get it but generally if i had to make predictions i predict 7 pro will get updated to 13 6 pro might get lucky and get 13 but might not and as far as 8 pro at the very least i imagine it will get 14 and we shall see afterwards
Red generally usually was about explosive specs/latest android and good price at the moment of release and not much after
Only thing that's a shame is lack of rom development on these phones but I'm guessing red just didn't release necessary stuff for that to happen