Hi Everyone
Considering that the only difference between the devices is the camera, I own a Mi 10t, and the stabilization is very bad. Do you think it is possible to do this hardware upgrade by buying the sensor of the mi10 t pro?
damiano.trimarchi said:
Hi Everyone
Considering that the only difference between the devices is the camera, I own a Mi 10t, and the stabilization is very bad. Do you think it is possible to do this hardware upgrade by buying the sensor of the mi10 t pro?
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You would be better off selling your 10T and upgrading then.
You would run into a lot of issues because the 108mp sensor firstly won't fit the 10T and then there are multiple issues because of this,also the software,
There is no software for such a hybrid device
I went for the Pro version personally and it's great,no issues.
I've watched and compared some teardowns of Mi10T and Mi10TPro and the camera modules are 100% identical (the 64mp camera has some plastic around it to be the same size as the 108mp sensor). Also, they share the exact same software. A camera swap should be possible. Just replace the whole camera module + the camera lenses.
draand28 said:
I've watched and compared some teardowns of Mi10T and Mi10TPro and the camera modules are 100% identical (the 64mp camera has some plastic around it to be the same size as the 108mp sensor). Also, they share the exact same software. A camera swap should be possible. Just replace the whole camera module + the camera lenses.
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What about OIS.
Has anyone tried this?
Muradra said:
Has anyone tried this?
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Did it work?
Does anyone have try it to change the camera?
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005003463271506.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.47585vlU5vlU2P&browser_id=c51e555e04e247089c4e2f2cbed6560f&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=00117e1c833b0e10164508664d4c9d6246af132016&gclid=
Here is for 24$ USD and should be the same size.
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https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005003463271506.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.47585vlU5vlU2P&browser_id=c51e555e04e247089c4e2f2cbed6560f&aff_trace_key=&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=00117e1c833b0e10164508664d4c9d6246af132016&gclid=
Here is for 24$ USD and should be the same size.
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Did you try to change the module? Did it work? Do you need to change the firmware?
Muradra said:
Did you try to change the module? Did it work? Do you need to change the firmware?
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I didn't try it but I think is possible without any problems.
damiano.trimarchi said:
Hi Everyone
Considering that the only difference between the devices is the camera, I own a Mi 10t, and the stabilization is very bad. Do you think it is possible to do this hardware upgrade by buying the sensor of the mi10 t pro?
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Hi, if you are still looking to do this, I have tried this with mixed results. The ois works, but the camera is capped at 64 mp. The software only allows you to select 64mp in pro mode. I am wondering if I can get my hands on the 10t pro app or firmware. Will keep you posted.
I saw a pro module for 10$, so no-brainer for me just for the ois. Hopefully someone will find what to change to get all 108mpx, firmware is the same for nonpro+pro, so there is only some switch inside?
I have fw 12.5.12. (global)
I did put pro camera module inside (easy just remove rear cover and few screws).
Photos in 64mpx mode are now 108mpx (picture 3).
When you take a picture you have white bar at the bottom (picture 2), it is only in preview of regular photo mode, video/night/64mpx are ok. Photo is saved fine, no white bar.
You can zoom-in in playback more than with 64mpx, it will tell you it is 108 and show a square of zoom section in bottom right.
On picture 4 is 64mpx at 600% on left, 64mpx at 100% in the middle, and 108mpx at 600% on the right, you can compare details.
OIS is not working in photo nor video, that was why I decided to do an upgrade, I am sad now.
It should work since the rom package is the same.... did you tried to clean flash rom? (were you using global or chine/xiaomi.eu?)
I am using global, now it offered update to 13.0.2.0, but no change, I will try to update to latest MIUI 13 22.4.6
so after clean upgrade to MIUI 13 22.4.13 everything is the same, line in camera app, ois not working
jokolo said:
I have fw 12.5.12. (global)
I did put pro camera module inside (easy just remove rear cover and few screws).
Photos in 64mpx mode are now 108mpx (picture 3).
When you take a picture you have white bar at the bottom (picture 2), it is only in preview of regular photo mode, video/night/64mpx are ok. Photo is saved fine, no white bar.
You can zoom-in in playback more than with 64mpx, it will tell you it is 108 and show a square of zoom section in bottom right.
On picture 4 is 64mpx at 600% on left, 64mpx at 100% in the middle, and 108mpx at 600% on the right, you can compare details.
OIS is not working in photo nor video, that was why I decided to do an upgrade, I am sad now.
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I had the same results, i had posted about it but not in detail. Any luck so far? I think there might be some hardware difference built in that is preventing ois to work, even if the rom is same and everything. but I might be wrong.
mishra1390 said:
I had the same results, i had posted about it but not in detail. Any luck so far? I think there might be some hardware difference built in that is preventing ois to work, even if the rom is same and everything. but I might be wrong.
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Have you tried custom ROM? Also for 10t pro rom?
n00b_dr0id said:
Have you tried custom ROM? Also for 10t pro rom?
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not a custom rom yet, no. I know little about roms. I could not find any stock rom exclusive to 10t pro either. I can try with a custom rom and update you. Any recommendation for custom rom?
Has anyone else tried? , I have both cameras and I want to install the 108 mp to the motherboard that has the 64 mp
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I am really sorry if this is not a place to post this but I couldn't find it.
The forum description says that this is for redmi note 5 with 20MP front camera.
I have version with 13 MP front camera and dual primary camera. Is there even a subforum for my version of device?
Sorry for the confusion?
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I am really sorry if this is not a place to post this but I couldn't find it.
The forum description says that this is for redmi note 5 with 20MP front camera.
I have version with 13 MP front camera and dual primary camera. Is there even a subforum for my version of device?
Sorry for the confusion?
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You're in the correct forum.
batman1950 said:
I am really sorry if this is not a place to post this but I couldn't find it.
The forum description says that this is for redmi note 5 with 20MP front camera.
I have version with 13 MP front camera and dual primary camera. Is there even a subforum for my version of device?
Sorry for the confusion?
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This forum has all the RN5 [SD 636] roms. Basically,all roms can be used in any RN5 devices
thank you
im on redmi note 5 ai 13mp front camera and use redmi note 5 pro rom , everything working fine.
Well...is it true that Redmi Note 5 AI (global version) use OV sensor in its front camera?
wa.ratna said:
Well...is it true that Redmi Note 5 AI (global version) use OV sensor in its front camera?
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Correct.
wa.ratna said:
Well...is it true that Redmi Note 5 AI (global version) use OV sensor in its front camera?
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yes it's true, but just because the indian version has sony sensor on the front cam doesn't mean it's better.
imo the global version is brighter (f/2.0 1.12µm) compared to f/2.2 1µm.
I mean yes the indian version has a lot more resolution, but that's not how it works to judge how good the camera is.
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yes it's true, but just because the indian version has sony sensor on the front cam doesn't mean it's better.
imo the global version is brighter (f/2.0 1.12µm) compared to f/2.2 1µm.
I mean yes the indian version has a lot more resolution, but that's not how it works to judge how good the camera is.
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I am curious, if global vers have OV sensor, will i have problem when i use google cam?
wa.ratna said:
I am curious, if global vers have OV sensor, will i have problem when i use google cam?
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some gcam mods are working for the global vers.
I tested MGC 5.1.018 Urikill.
The front camera is working fine except the HDR+.
I don't know if it's my settings or just the mod.
My advice is just try it all, you'll never know if you don't try. Make sure to enable the camera2api
Hello Could someone with the global/CN version of this device (the f/1.9 aperture) post some comparison between the stock and gcam photos? I'm especiallly curious about how much it helps in low light situations. I've seen some comparison on youtube, but unfortunately the guy had Indian version of this device which has different camera.
Thank you in advance!
I would like to see this as well. Also, I wonder how google camera on Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro compares to Xiaomi Mi A2 (performance/quality-wise)
Last one is in low light, the rest it seems are better detailed in gcam, also MIUI cam has trouble with red colors. Not a very big difference, not like kenzo with gcam.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wq9KWrXPDc5vYezh8
Saicoth said:
Last one is in low light, the rest it seems are better detailed in gcam, also MIUI cam has trouble with red colors. Not a very big difference, not like kenzo with gcam.
*link*
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Thank you very much, but I have to disagree there with you - many of the photos look a day and night difference to me, especially the chocolate rabbit; the stock camera sample is a grainy mess while GCAM turned it into a very decent photo. The petunia photo also shows much more details on the leaves and daylily looks just gorgeous on the gcam.
Thanks again, much appreciated :good:
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Thank you very much, but I have to disagree there with you - many of the photos look a day and night difference to me, especially the chocolate rabbit
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Glad I could be of help.
Yes the low light photo has less noise than MIUI cam, I was mostly referring to the daylight photos. I own a Redmi Note 3, compared to stock MIUI camera, gcam on redmi note 3 takes 2-3 times better photos.
On RN5 the difference isn't as big as on RN3.
Have a look at these, some of them have even better details than RN5, in low light RN5 wins though. There's no need to tell which ones are from stock camera.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZZCs5xezcS3sD4Q38
Which Gcam version good for whyred?
irfan.shikarpuri said:
Which Gcam version good for whyred?
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Hi, try them out see what's working best for you, I'm using CameraX-v2 from alone_in_dark https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-alone_in_dark/
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Hi, try them out see what's working best for you, I'm using CameraX-v2 from alone_in_dark https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-alone_in_dark/
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Thank you very much for the link
Hi, was wondering if anyone could do a Mi max 2 Gcam HDR+ vs Mi max 3 Gcam HDR+ front and rear camera comparison? I would like to see the maximum potential of these two cameras to see how much it has improved and whether I should get this or just keep the Mi Max 2? Thank you!
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Hi, was wondering if anyone could do a Mi max 2 Gcam HDR+ vs Mi max 3 Gcam HDR+ front and rear camera comparison? I would like to see the maximum potential of these two cameras to see how much it has improved and whether I should get this or just keep the Mi Max 2? Thank you!
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Only a few people may have both of these phones and even fewer probably use gcam on them so I would not be to optimistic about someone posting a comparison. I have used the gcam mod on many different devices from Xiaomi and the results has more or less been the same. I would guess that Max 2 and Max 3
produce very similair results when using the gcam mod. Photo quality from smartphones are like 90% software optimization and 10% camera hardware quality.
flipp0 said:
Photo quality from smartphones are like 90% software optimization and 10% camera hardware quality.
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Should be 90% hardware & 10% software, I think
dinhvtai said:
Should be 90% hardware & 10% software, I think
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Not with Google Cam.
dinhvtai said:
Should be 90% hardware & 10% software, I think
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Not at all. I owned a Redmi 5 Plus and Huawei Mate 10 at the same time. I prefered the low light photos from 5 Plus with gcam even tough Mate 10 has way better camera hardware.
flipp0 said:
Only a few people may have both of these phones and even fewer probably use gcam on them so I would not be to optimistic about someone posting a comparison. I have used the gcam mod on many different devices from Xiaomi and the results has more or less been the same. I would guess that Max 2 and Max 3
produce very similair results when using the gcam mod. Photo quality from smartphones are like 90% software optimization and 10% camera hardware quality.
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It's true, I guess it was worth a shot. I'm only asking because I checked the mi max 3 vs pixel 2 gcam comparison on XDA the other day, and IMO the mi max 3 was better than the pixel 2 in almost all the shots, I was shocked myself, so I wanted to know if it improved by a lot when compared to the mi max 2.
FangXIII said:
It's true, I guess it was worth a shot. I'm only asking because I checked the mi max 3 vs pixel 2 gcam comparison on XDA the other day, and IMO the mi max 3 was better than the pixel 2 in almost all the shots, I was shocked myself, so I wanted to know if it improved by a lot when compared to the mi max 2.
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In January I posted a comparison between Redmi 5 Plus and Mi 5S, using the ported gcam app on both phones.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/albums/72157692005458944
Even though Mi 5s has a "much better" image sensor, the photo quality was very close IMO. The reason? As I said earlier, the photo quality from smartphone cameras is mostly about software optimizations.
IMO all phones produce more or less the same results when using Gcam and HDR+. You may find minor differences here and there, but not any large differences.
I'm waiting Max 3 6G/128G. As I know Max 3 has all Samsung camera sensors which are more compatible with GCam so result will be better. HDR+ processing speed also improved on higher performance Max 3
I got both phone. And also the third one, the mi max prime, first of all! ^^.
All are rooted. But i'm in vacation. So... You need to wait. But I can allready said that mi max 3 cam is more more capable that cam of the mi max 1...
pystolero said:
I got both phone. And also the third one, the mi max prime, first of all! ^^.
All are rooted. But i'm in vacation. So... You need to wait. But I can allready said that mi max 3 cam is more more capable that cam of the mi max 1...
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Do you refer to the stock camera or the gcam mod with hdr+?
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Do you refer to the stock camera or the gcam mod with hdr+?
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The stock one. I have trouble with magisk module and i'm unable to install camera2api...
I have both Mi Max 2 and 3, both with GCam installed (but different versions)
The Max 3 has more/different GCams available (that don't crash), and thus has better quality
PianoMonkey said:
I have both Mi Max 2 and 3, both with GCam installed (but different versions)
The Max 3 has more/different GCams available (that don't crash), and thus has better quality
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Do I need root to install them on Mi Max 3?
AdamSanJuan said:
Do I need root to install them on Mi Max 3?
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To enable camera2 api yes, which let's you use functions like HDR
PianoMonkey said:
To enable camera3 api yes, which let's you use functions like HDR
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Is it worth it to just wait for the impending update that will enable the Camera2 Api?
AdamSanJuan said:
Is it worth it to just wait for the impending update that will enable the Camera2 Api?
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You should do yourself a favor and install a custom OS anyways, and have your phone rooted
One of the reasons I prefer Android is rooted apps that give me a more pleasant experience, like Adblock, custom keyboard add-ons, Xposed
It also takes 1 second to apply the Gcam patch if your phone is rooted
PianoMonkey said:
You should do yourself a favor and install a custom OS anyways, and have your phone rooted
One of the reasons I prefer Android is rooted apps that give me a more pleasant experience, like Adblock, custom keyboard add-ons, Xposed
It also takes 1 second to apply the Gcam patch if your phone is rooted
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What roms offer a similar feature to Xiaomi's Second Space? I feel like I would lose more features when I use a custom rom.
AdamSanJuan said:
What roms offer a similar feature to Xiaomi's Second Space? I feel like I would lose more features when I use a custom rom.
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No, it is a unique feature of MIUI...
AdamSanJuan said:
What roms offer a similar feature to Xiaomi's Second Space? I feel like I would lose more features when I use a custom rom.
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MIUI is getting alot better these days with all those extra features too.
we pretty much only need a custom kernel to squeeze more juice / performance from it and that's it.
Hi guys, on youtube Teardown video it looks like that Redmi Note 8 pro has OIS (optical image stabilization) for main 64MP chip???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLQ0qh2YBtE
Well camera chip is moving for sure, but is it enaught for OIS?
On Kimovil write that phone dont have optical stabilization..
Generaljan said:
Hi guys, on youtube Teardown video it looks like that Redmi Note 8 pro has OIS (optical image stabilization) for main 64MP chip???
Well camera chip is moving for sure, but is it enaught for OIS?
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This is a different phone.. you see on the start when he pull off sim card tray and memory card. He have two , I have only one..
tze_vitamin said:
This is a different phone.. you see on the start when he pull off sim card tray and memory card. He have two , I have only one..
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I had no idea there are more version. But on others teardowns camera module looks the same. :good:
Generaljan said:
I had no idea there are more version. But on others teardowns camera module looks the same. :good:
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I also didn't know.. until I didn't saw that he have a two slots..one for sd card ..i think and second for sim cards.. that is maybe Chinese version,but we all should then have a OIS..?
I can't understand what is this?
tze_vitamin said:
This is a different phone.. you see on the start when he pull off sim card tray and memory card. He have two , I have only one..
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That's Indian variant which has a dedicated SD Card slot instead of NFC
AlphaBravo said:
That's Indian variant which has a dedicated SD Card slot instead of NFC
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They again make a different phone for India?
First was with Redmi note 7 and 48MP camera, that they never got,instead they got less pixels..
Now with Redmi note 8 pro, why do they remove NFC? And put one slot more?
Also about OIS, we saw on video that main camera have image stabilization, but did Global version have it also? I have Global version with EU ROM.. do I have optical stabilization?
Generaljan said:
Hi guys, on youtube Teardown video it looks like that Redmi Note 8 pro has OIS (optical image stabilization) for main 64MP chip???
Well camera chip is moving for sure, but is it enaught for OIS?
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This is what I found out from moderators from Mi community:
Redmi Note 8 Pro released for India has dedicated microSD slot. Though the camera can move, it doesn't mean it has OIS, there is another mechanical movement which is for auto-focus.
It has no OIS. The lens still have to move for AF.
Any news from porting Gcam to S20 ultra? Thanks!
Would also like to know since the camara atm on this phone is trash!!
Check out: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
larryk said:
Check out: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
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Thanks but none there yet for this phone at least at 108Mpx mode
TF1920 said:
Thanks but none there yet for this phone at least at 108Mpx mode
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That's true I also wasn't able to find anything.
This is a similar cam forum https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-10/themes/gcam-t4005605 but still no 108Mpx Gcam
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Any news from porting Gcam to S20 ultra? Thanks!
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Doesn`t the normal SD chipset work for everyone not on the exynos chip?
Holding my fingers crossed for a Exynos port of the Gcam for the Ultra. Even with the camera update it seriously smears the texture on photos and have had some horrible portrait photos as a result.
Most annoying part is that if you use the pro mode you get excellent results without any smeared skin tones but using the main camera set on auto without bixby scene detection and 12mp binned photos it sure looks like **** most of the time.
I think Samsung REALLY needs to improve a lot on the camera or it will be the biggest camera failure in the last 10 years....
So unless you mainly post to instagram and actually want to print pictures I suggest you use the 108mp setting and give it a quick sharpening in snapseed (or lightroom for some much needed defringing and sharpening)
So I´m holding out hope for a Gcam port for us stuck with the Exynos chipset that seems to produce slightly worse then the Snapdragon powered Ultra.
Other then that, I love the S20 Ultra and a worthy upgrade from my old S8+
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Most annoying part is that if you use the pro mode you get excellent results without any smeared skin tones but using the main camera set on auto without bixby scene detection and 12mp binned photos it sure looks like **** most of the time.
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So why do you use auto?
Waiting for this as well
dazed1 said:
So why do you use auto?
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Obviously because you get no HDR while in Pro mode...
costindaemon said:
Obviously because you get no HDR while in Pro mode...
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The need for HDR in bright daylight is almost non exsistent.
I cant understand. I have oneplus 6.... crapy photie... I gave up and bought S20 Ultra... even crappier photos..... what is going on?????
With gcam one plus 6 photos almost looks great...
Should I sell S20 and buy Xiaom 10?
Hardware in S20 should be much better than in mi 10... but looks like software is crap??
Thank you for suggestions
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I cant understand. I have oneplus 6.... crapy photie... I gave up and bought S20 Ultra... even crappier photos..... what is going on?????
With gcam one plus 6 photos almost looks great...
Should I sell S20 and buy Xiaom 10?
Hardware in S20 should be much better than in mi 10... but looks like software is crap??
Thank you for suggestions
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probably cause you have exynos.
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probably cause you have exynos.
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What do you suggest?
if you can get snapdragon go for s20 if not just go for oppo xfinder x2 or mi 10 pro if camera is important for you, if you want the best camera go for p40 check dxomark.com for camera rankings although p40 have no google services but can be installed in less than 10 minutes
So for EU (Exynos) version of S20 Ultra there is no hope?
Working GCAM6.1 on exynos S20 ULTRA
Beso said:
So for EU (Exynos) version of S20 Ultra there is no hope?
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Hi,
i found on with everithing working , included Portrait mode Front and Back
Can you post it?
Aezhyr said:
Can you post it?
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I use ZGCAM vers.917 on my EXYNOS S20 Ultra (XEF) :
-Night mode front and back
-PhotoBooth
-Photo Sphère (bugs sometimes)
-Slow Motion
-Zoom
-Video
-Google Lens
-Portrait (back and Front)
-Panorama
pictures looks better with stock in most of the cases (Night shoots) but with the correct settings i think GCAM will be much better than stock.
with the virus it's hard for me to spend a lot time outside to find the best set up but i think it's a good begining.
I can't share my pictures or setting for the moment( need 10 usefull posts before..)
let me know if you need more details
It is working!!
First app that has worked for me until now
Thank you very much
Do you know the best settings to use this cam on auto? Never worked with Gcam before
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Actually, when I try night mode it shuts down the camera