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Questions before buying a Note 8.0

I have two primary uses for the tablet in question:
1. I will be using it as a GPS navigation unit on my motorcycle. And it will be used to play music thru my motorcycle's speakers.
*I will most likely be using the headphone jack, or possibly some kind of usb audio out / charger (if I can find such a product) to send audio to an amplifier on the motorcycle. Or possibly via bluetooth.
2. When not on the bike I will be using it mostly for watching videos on it, via plex, netflix, memory card, etc.
Questions:
Network/ Internet connectivity:
I live in Canada B.C.
At first I only cared about a basic WiFi only note 8.0, but now I'm thinking I might be inclined to put on a network in the future, and would like to keep that door open(maybe).
1. If I import a USA note (AT&T):
a. will it work on our networks, fido/rogers/bell/etc
b. I will have to root it and flash it with a custom rom to do that right? and if that is true, will I notice any complications in the future?
Note 8.0 vs tab4 pro
I have already done a bit of research into this but thought I would ask a bit on the subject
The tab4 pro looks overall better, but also more expensive.
!. The only spec difference that I would really care about is the higher resolution screen that the tab4 has. would any one say it's a major difference in reality?
2. Are there any other notable feature that the tab4 has over the 8.0 that I might be overlooking?
Thank you for your help. any amount input is welcome.

Are you talking about the tab pro 8.4 or a tab 4 8.0? I really like the 8.4 tab pro. The screen is amazing on it but I'm not going to count my note 8.0 out either as the picture quality has been plenty satisfying to me. The tab pro has the newer faster processor with a far better gpu. Had I not gotten my note at such a cheap price I would have gotten the tab pro 8.4. That being said I think that if you find a really cheap price on the note 8.0 it's worth it. I'm not disappointed with mine at all. Far as getting an AT&T branded note you'd probably have to sim unlock the device to use it on a Canadian network.
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msd24200 said:
Are you talking about the tab pro 8.4 or a tab 4 8.0? I really like the 8.4 tab pro. The screen is amazing on it but I'm not going to count my note 8.0 out either as the picture quality has been plenty satisfying to me. The tab pro has the newer faster processor with a far better gpu. Had I not gotten my note at such a cheap price I would have gotten the tab pro 8.4. That being said I think that if you find a really cheap price on the note 8.0 it's worth it. I'm not disappointed with mine at all. Far as getting an AT&T branded note you'd probably have to sim unlock the device to use it on a Canadian network.
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I was referring to the 8.4tab and 8.0 note.
You remind me about my nature, bang for the buck, is probably the biggest factor.
I guess it will come down to which ever one I can save the most on, relatively.
I find when entering the $300+ for a tablet, I get in the zone for I might as well upgrade my laptop instead.
Thanks for the reply.

Not sure about GPS other than it works fine on Wi-Fi.
Video decode in my experience is good, it can generally play most Blu-Ray video fine via MakeMKV (Basically decrypt and remux into Matroska). YMMV with subtitles and audios and third party apps. It's not as powerful as a Snapdragon 800 but very nice (and has more codec support than my Nexus 5 when both are compared at stock).
Can't say anything about USB audio out as I've never dealt with that.
If you only care about HSPA+ service anything supporting 1900 / 850 Mhz will work and as far as I know all cellular ready models support those. I don't know about the LTE bands up there. Unlike us in the USA, Canada pretty much uses the same frequencies for all the carriers.
If you get the AT&T model you will have to get it SIM unlocked by AT&T before hand. I am not sure that can be done from Canada rather than while on AT&T's network as I've never tried it. Typically you have to stick in a SIM from another carrier and enter a code. On T-Mobile with my Galaxy S3 it took a few weeks to get the code via e-mail after supplying my data via phone; YMMV. You would want to SIM unlock before rootinng; bootloader unlock is different than SIM unlock; and custom ROM's don't SIM unlock your device.
If you want 8" and a S-Pen you have no options. Only other alternative would be an Tegra Note 7; I believe they've started making an LTE model but I'm not sure. Personally if you don't want the pen, I'd go with the Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro because it's got a more powerful processor and a higher resolution panel. If it's all the same to you by all means save money. The Note 8 is likely at it's end of retail life pending a newer version so prices are going down (at least in the USA they have; my fiancee got hers in Alberta last month for $349 and I think they're now $329 here in Georgia).
Feature wise is probably improved MultiWindow mode and anything you like about Samsung's 4.4 tabs that isn't available on 4.1/4.2 era devices like the Note 8. I'm not sure what functionality we're getting in our 4.4 update (AFAIK 3G and Wi-Fi, not AT&T model).

Spidey01 said:
Not sure about GPS other than it works fine on Wi-Fi.
Video decode in my experience is good, it can generally play most Blu-Ray video fine via MakeMKV (Basically decrypt and remux into Matroska). YMMV with subtitles and audios and third party apps. It's not as powerful as a Snapdragon 800 but very nice (and has more codec support than my Nexus 5 when both are compared at stock).
Can't say anything about USB audio out as I've never dealt with that.
If you only care about HSPA+ service anything supporting 1900 / 850 Mhz will work and as far as I know all cellular ready models support those. I don't know about the LTE bands up there. Unlike us in the USA, Canada pretty much uses the same frequencies for all the carriers.
If you get the AT&T model you will have to get it SIM unlocked by AT&T before hand. I am not sure that can be done from Canada rather than while on AT&T's network as I've never tried it. Typically you have to stick in a SIM from another carrier and enter a code. On T-Mobile with my Galaxy S3 it took a few weeks to get the code via e-mail after supplying my data via phone; YMMV. You would want to SIM unlock before rootinng; bootloader unlock is different than SIM unlock; and custom ROM's don't SIM unlock your device.
If you want 8" and a S-Pen you have no options. Only other alternative would be an Tegra Note 7; I believe they've started making an LTE model but I'm not sure. Personally if you don't want the pen, I'd go with the Galaxy Tab 8.4 Pro because it's got a more powerful processor and a higher resolution panel. If it's all the same to you by all means save money. The Note 8 is likely at it's end of retail life pending a newer version so prices are going down (at least in the USA they have; my fiancee got hers in Alberta last month for $349 and I think they're now $329 here in Georgia).
Feature wise is probably improved MultiWindow mode and anything you like about Samsung's 4.4 tabs that isn't available on 4.1/4.2 era devices like the Note 8. I'm not sure what functionality we're getting in our 4.4 update (AFAIK 3G and Wi-Fi, not AT&T model).
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A funny thing happened to me last night.
For the longest time I was under the impression that NON-RT Windows tablets were quite expensive and quite large. Then I find out that there are 8inch full version windows tablets with decent specs and a reasonable prices.
So in short now i'm after a windows 8 tablet, the lenovo miix 2 and thinkpad 8 being my first choices.

Edwii said:
A funny thing happened to me last night.
For the longest time I was under the impression that NON-RT Windows tablets were quite expensive and quite large. Then I find out that there are 8inch full version windows tablets with decent specs and a reasonable prices.
So in short now i'm after a windows 8 tablet, the lenovo miix 2 and thinkpad 8 being my first choices.
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Venue Pro 8.0 would be my choice.

gooberdude said:
Venue Pro 8.0 would be my choice.
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I had one for a day before I returned it.
First of all it has no GPS, so right from the start it got eliminated from my options.
Secondly it's speaker is TERRIBLE, even at full volume It was barley audible in a quite room. With my Air conditioner on i couldn't even listen to a movie. I don;t know if the lenovo has better audio but can't be much worse if anything.

Can Android act as a broadband dongle?

Hi!
If I connect a "car-stick" such as https://www.onlineshop-skoda.de/index.php/carstick.html, the car (a Skoda Kodiaq) should be able to provide a wifi-hotspot.
I could simply enable internet sharing using my Samsung S9, but I guess the signal would be better if the cars built in wifi-hotspot capability was used.
The phone is connected via USB to the car.
Could the phone be configured in some way which would enable it to present the type of network interfaces similar to what the earlier mentioned car-stick presents?
//Erik

I have some Units here by ZTE one is a rogers canada other is AT&T USA model They were both easy to unlock take a SIM card and have WIfi . I got them on ebay as refurbs for about $25.00 USD each.
Most any android tablet or phone will overheat if left in hotspot mode. I hear iPhones will fry. All I tested overheated even on battery and add the heat of charging well i suppose something bad could happen!

OnePlus 7T 128GB Is $438USD!

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...promotion-20181111.promoteWysiwyg_501597637.3
Hopefully this will entice developers to buy the phone and develop more ROMs and kernels for it. $440 is really cheap and to me, it's like a flagship killer all over again.
Only difference is in LTE bands between global and China/Indian variants
Of course it's cheaper in China!

also bought the China variant a week ago from a local seller, everything comes to around 490, dirt cheap for what it is

It looks to be even cheaper at $379 usd once you add the coupons. That is a hell of a deal.
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OuncE718 said:
It looks to be even cheaper at $379 usd once you add the coupons. That is a hell of a deal.
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The coupons are unfortunately a dime a dozen.

geokilla said:
The coupons are unfortunately a dime a dozen.
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Why is it unfortunate if you have unlimited coupons? Sounds good to me.
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Why is it unfortunate if you have unlimited coupons? Sounds good to me.
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Where did you get the coupon? Thanks

ty949 said:
Where did you get the coupon? Thanks
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When you click on the link you'll see it.
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Here's the missing bands from this Asian variant of the 7T, along with carrier-use listings:
B25 (1900+):
Sprint - partial use
B32 (1500):
None
B66 (1700/2100):
AT&T - in use
C Spire - in use
T-Mobile - in use
U.S. Cellular - in use
Verizon - in use
Source:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/oneplus-7t,oneplus-7t-cn-in
Personally, I wouldn't touch this variant if I lived in the US. Verizon picked up B66 back in 2015 and has been aggressively rolling it (AWS3-4) out across the US, see this FCC map: https://tinyurl.com/b66map
Yes, I'm aware B66 is a superset of B4... but with CDMA shutting down by the end of the year, this band is clearly core to VZW and other networks (along with B13 LTE backbone). If you buy this Asian variant, you might be missing out on boosted download speeds in various markets. Will it work, yes. Fastest speeds everywhere, no.

Good to know...

skelzer said:
Here's the missing bands from this Asian variant of the 7t with carrier listings:
B25 (1900+):
Sprint - partial use
B32 (1500):
None
B66 (1700/2100):
AT&T - in use
C Spire - in use
T-Mobile - in use
U.S. Cellular - in use
Verizon - in use
Source:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/oneplus-7t,oneplus-7t-cn-in
Personally, I wouldn't touch this variant if I lived in the US. Verizon picked up B66 back in 2015 and has been aggressively rolling it (AWS3) out across the US, see this FCC map: https://tinyurl.com/b66map
Yes, I'm aware B66 is a superset of B4... but with CDMA shutting down by the end of the year, this band is clearly core to VZW and other networks. If you buy this Asian variant, you're going to be severely hamstrung throughout the US.
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I read on Reddit that the Chinese version works fine on VZW as along as you have them provision it as a "non-CDMA" device on their network. I hope this is accurate because I have two of the 8GB/256GB CN variants in-bound to me in the US and I only use Verizon.

mrsean said:
I read on Reddit that the Chinese version works fine on VZW as along as you have them provision it as a "non-CDMA" device on their network. I hope this is accurate because I have two of the 8GB/256GB CN variants in-bound to me in the US and I only use Verizon.
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No, the correct provisioning is "CDMA-Less" and you also need to confirm you have "HD Voice" for the phone to work. Wouldn't hurt to also ask them to remove the "LVC-Block" that gets added automatically when they populate your IMEI number (for Video Calling).
The phones WILL technically work as they support the Band 4 subset... but you wont be able to benefit from any of the latest Band 66 coverage that Verizon has been adding over the recent year, most of which is to boost download speeds (B66 is unpaired/asymmetric, with more allocated to downlinks).
Take a look on this page. The Chinese variants are lacking Band 66... so they won't connect to VZW via AWS-3 Blocks G-J or anything on AWS-4.
https://www.phonescoop.com/glossary/term.php?gid=570
Bottom line, yes, you will get a connection... you just won't get the best connection.
EDIT: On a good note, unlike any Pixels... you will be able to activate both nano SIMs on Verizon. The 7T, along with the 6T, are one of the few Android DSDS phones that are whitelisted on VZW's "Open Development" platform. After carrying 2 phones around for over 10 years... I now have both lines one one device. Joy!

skelzer said:
Here's the missing bands from this Asian variant of the 7T, along with carrier-use listings:
B25 (1900+):
Sprint - partial use
B32 (1500):
None
B66 (1700/2100):
AT&T - in use
C Spire - in use
T-Mobile - in use
U.S. Cellular - in use
Verizon - in use
Source:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/oneplus-7t,oneplus-7t-cn-in
Personally, I wouldn't touch this variant if I lived in the US. Verizon picked up B66 back in 2015 and has been aggressively rolling it (AWS3-4) out across the US, see this FCC map: https://tinyurl.com/b66map
Yes, I'm aware B66 is a superset of B4... but with CDMA shutting down by the end of the year, this band is clearly core to VZW and other networks (along with B13 LTE backbone). If you buy this Asian variant, you might be missing out on boosted download speeds in various markets. Will it work, yes. Fastest speeds everywhere, no.
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Won't work on Sprint they will not whitelist the IMEI

Skripka said:
Won't work on Sprint they will not whitelist the IMEI
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Yeah, that's cause Band 25 is their backbone... makes sense.

New to one plus phones. I'm on verizon in the US but I'm unsure what phone to purchase. I want the 7t phone at the best price. I'm currently using a ancient galaxy s5 rooted/unlocked. Asked verizon about the oneplus and they wouldn't guarantee that it would work. they Really tried to push Samsung and pixel 4. I just want to ensure the oneplus I purchase will be compatible with verizon. Any input is appreciated. Thanks

barcia99 said:
New to one plus phones. I'm on verizon in the US but I'm unsure what phone to purchase. I want the 7t phone at the best price. I'm currently using a ancient galaxy s5 rooted/unlocked. Asked verizon about the oneplus and they wouldn't guarantee that it would work. they Really tried to push Samsung and pixel 4. I just want to ensure the oneplus I purchase will be compatible with verizon. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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No problem, happy to help. I've been on Verizon for 20+ and recently owned the 3 pixel xls.... I ordered the Pixel 4 XL then returned it. Bought the 7T direct from OnePlus and couldn't be happier. Newer tech, less annoyance... plus you save a LOT of $$.
When you get the phone, call VZW and ask for a Tier 2 tech. Then tell them you want add/remove the provisioning I listed in a previous post ^^^.
Here's the link to the phone... whatever you do, don't buy the other variants found on other sites :
https://www.oneplus.com/oneplus-7t?from=7t

skelzer said:
No problem, happy to help. I've been on Verizon for 20+ and recently owned the 3 pixel xls.... I ordered the Pixel 4 XL then returned it. Bought the 7T direct from OnePlus and couldn't be happier. Newer tech, less annoyance... plus you save a LOT of $$.
When you get the phone, call VZW and ask for a Tier 2 tech. Then tell them you want add/remove the provisioning I listed in a previous post ^^^.
Here's the link to the phone... whatever you do, don't buy the other variants found on other sites :
https://www.oneplus.com/oneplus-7t?from=7t
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That's what I was wondering. The other variants seemed cheaper but I questioned it. Not sure what you mean by provisioning. I read the posts but it's all new to me. Also can I get the 7t with 256 or is it just the 8/128.

For the US version, you can only get the 8/128 on that page. There is "technically" a 256 US version that was in the works but the codename never made it out and it didn't go to market. Same as a Gold color for Asian markets...
So to clarify, here's all the 7T variants:
Global / International / Asian / Chinese - missing US bands, available as both 128 and 256 <--- DON'T GET THIS
US T-Mobile - available as 128, locked bootloader <--- DON'T GET THIS
US Unlocked - available as 128, unlocked bootloader <-- YES, GET THIS
Here's some clarification on the provisioning. Simple version is these are the features that are added and/or removed from your account based on your subscription choices and hardware support. Premium Visual Voicemail, for example, costs $2.99 per month. When you choose to add this to your phone, VZW "provisions" your account to add support for the feature. There's also provisioning that's required to support iOS devices... or LTE... or WiFi Calling, etc. So although the 7T has been whitelisted (link) and can be activated on VZW, some of the provisioning isn't automatic and you'll need a quick call to Tier 2 support to get all the phone features working.
Here's the steps. First, if you're moving from an iPhone... there's a small chance things can get hairy when/if you're planning to use Dual SIM (two discrete phone lines). If you are, let me know, I'll add some details. If you don't plan to activate two lines, then here's the easiest path coming from an iPhone:
1) turn off iMessage on your iPhone (very easy, google it).
2) not required... but if you can, it actually makes life easier if you first transfer your line to an old Android LTE device. This can be done online and doesn't cost anything. What this does is push some provisioning to your account that sticks around when you then activate the 7T. If you're already on Android, you can skip these two first steps.
3) then call VZW, ask for a Tier 2 tech to activate the 7T.
4) confirm "CDMA-Less" provisioning has been added.
5) confirm "HD Voice" provisioning has been added.
6) Optional... but you can also ask them to remove the "LVC-Block" provisioning that gets added automatically when they populate your IMEI number (for Video Calling).
All set. The only item that isn't working yet is Premium Visual Voicemail (transcribed to text). Visual Voicemail works. Also, if you know how to do it, you can activate RCS messaging.
I think that's about it... good luck!

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For the US version, you can only get the 8/128 on that page. There is "technically" a 256 US version that was in the works but the codename never made it out and it didn't go to market. Same as a Gold color for Asian markets...
So to clarify, here's all the 7T variants:
Global / International / Asian / Chinese - missing US bands, available as both 128 and 256 <--- DON'T GET THIS
US T-Mobile - available as 128, locked bootloader <--- DON'T GET THIS
US Unlocked - available as 128, unlocked bootloader <-- YES, GET THIS
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You are awsome. Thanks for the info. I'm gun shy on this purchase. I've used galaxy s5 since it came out and know it inside and out. Will the 7t have the options for root/unlocked BL/TWRP and custom roms? Are there any accessories I need for this phone. Sorry about all my questions/apprehension. Think I'm going to do it.

barcia99 said:
You are awsome. Thanks for the info. I'm gun shy on this purchase. I've used galaxy s5 since it came out and know it inside and out. Will the 7t have the options for root/unlocked BL/TWRP and custom roms? Are there any accessories I need for this phone. Sorry about all my questions/apprehension. Think I'm going to do it.
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Trust me, sounds like we've both been on the same path... I had the s5 long ago. Yes, this phone can be unlocked and you can install custom roms. Here's the kicker, unlike all of our previous phones, the OnePlus actually grew out of the custom ROM community. Their first phone, the OnePlus One shipped with the Cyanogen OS operating system pre-installed, a commercial variant of CyanogenMod. It's grown up a bit since then... and today it's on OxygenOS, which is pretty much a clean version of Android with some additional features added. Bottom line, this phone feels less-bloated and constricting than ANY of my previous Androids, including the Pixels and Nexus'. Everything is available and Oxygen OS adds some awesome features I've never before seen on a phone.
Once you are up and running, make sure to check these apps out... they'll help to keep you plugged in and backed up when updates go wild:
Oxygen Updater
OnePlus Community (Beta)
OnePlus Switch (Beta)
PS I edited and added some additional info to my previous post... be sure to re-read.
Edit. Forgot to add... yes, definitely get the case and glass screen protector in this bundle:
https://www.oneplus.com/product/oneplus-7t-keep-it-safe-bundle
Quality and fit of both accessories was a HUGE surprise. I've never had such a high grade glass protector that feels like butter... in ALL my years. And the case has a sandstone texture to it that both looks awesome and helps with grip. Everything else is optional... but I also got a second Warp charger/cable (this is a proprietary charging protocol that is way faster than others). Everything else can be purchased elsewhere.
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CAUTION!!! Just had my first experience with OnePlus After-sales Support via chat... HORRENDOUS! I was crazy enough to buy 2x of these screen protectors for $59.98 last month. Yesterday, my first cracked so I just opened the second package. I did all the right steps... after installing it, I noticed the top right corner wouldn't stick. Upon inspection, I could see that about 1x1.5cm of the corner was missing the sticker layer that adheres the glass to the phone. I won't walk through my experience step-by-step... but here's some high points. First rep, Lucy Francis, told me that I was supposed to notify them of the defect BEFORE opening the package (wow, that makes a lot of sense!?). She then continued to blame me for the defect and eventually disconnected the chat, dropping my connection. The second rep, Ethan Maximus, went back to the same flawed logic with "As per policy, the defect or damage should be reported within 72 hours of purchase." It took me 15 minutes to walk them through the fact that I bought TWO and that there's no way to discover the second was defective UNTIL IT WAS INSTALLED. Bottom line, considering the exceptional premium you pay for OnePlus accessories, I was expecting at-par support as minimum. This was excruciating!!! The reps are stuck on their scripts and do whatever they can to avoid ANY costs on their end. Never again, neither the phone, nor their accessories. This is easily the worst, most illogical support experience I've had in 15 years. My updated recommendation --> AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS!
PM me if you want a copy of the chat log.
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If you really want to go the distance with the case I listed above... add these two skins to it:
https://dbrand.com/shop/oneplus-7t-skins
Here's selections:
Back - (don't select anything as you're using the case)
Camera - Black Swarm for $1.95
Logo - Orange for $0.95
Shipping will cost more than the skin parts... and although they don't mention it, dbrand will actually send you two of each item. Here's a pic that's close to the final result, note that you're applying the logo sticker to the sandstone case, so it'll look a bit more matte (matches XDA, not by accident):
https://prnt.sc/q5ckgf
Enjoy!

I have read that there is no difference between the China (HydrogenOS) vs the International (OxygenOS) variant, in terms of hardware. Does that mean putting OxygenOS on the Chinese variant will be able to use same network bands as the International variant?

Question Does variant matter?

I have been searching for the past hour or so about this because I'd considering purchasing a OP9Pro, however I want to make sure I get the best experience.
I will be using Mint mobile (T-Mobile MVNO), but in the future there is a good chance I will change carriers to something else like AT&T, and I want to ensure compatibility. I am looking on eBay, and seeing tons of devices, many T-Mobile unlocked, or China unlocked, or North America unlocked, and I am just not sure which LE212X I should go for.
Does it even matter? I'd like to be running a custom ROM to avoid google and other spyware that might come from oneplus, I just don't know if certain variants are better/worse than others.
I come from Xiaomi where sometimes a phone for a different market has an entire different SoC.
Thanks!

The only one whitelisted for AT&T is the factory unlocked LE2125. T-Mobile isn't picky. I have an LE2115 (factory unlocked OnePlus 9) and it works perfectly on Tello (T-Mobile), AT&T, and Lexvor (Verizon).

cproo12 said:
I have been searching for the past hour or so about this because I'd considering purchasing a OP9Pro, however I want to make sure I get the best experience.
I will be using Mint mobile (T-Mobile MVNO), but in the future there is a good chance I will change carriers to something else like AT&T, and I want to ensure compatibility. I am looking on eBay, and seeing tons of devices, many T-Mobile unlocked, or China unlocked, or North America unlocked, and I am just not sure which LE212X I should go for.
Does it even matter? I'd like to be running a custom ROM to avoid google and other spyware that might come from oneplus, I just don't know if certain variants are better/worse than others.
I come from Xiaomi where sometimes a phone for a different market has an entire different SoC.
Thanks!
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I would recommend the LE2125, it's the North American unlocked variant which gets regular updates and you don't need to bug T-Mobile to get it to work on other carriers.

@razercortex @EtherealRemnant i see.
screw at&t for whitelisting only one variant. what a shame! I will look for 2125.

cproo12 said:
@razercortex @EtherealRemnant i see.
screw at&t for whitelisting only one variant. what a shame! I will look for 2125.
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You're better off getting the 2125 anyway because the T-Mobile software is different and it's hugely behind the global variant plus getting the bootloader unlocked is a bit more of a hassle and converting the T-Mobile edition to global has presented issues for people.

Yep, LE2125 Global for the win which I'm using on T-Mobile usa...

Yeah they are just so ridiculously expensive. Like $700-$1200 versus $550
Might just end up getting the 8T

cproo12 said:
Yeah they are just so ridiculously expensive. Like $700-$1200 versus $550
Might just end up getting the 8T
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A lot of the reason the T-Mobile variant is cheaper is precisely because of these kinds of issues.

Yeah. Unfortunate I just wish any of my Xiaomi phones would work.
OnePlus is my next best but so expensive. I would feel awful if I dropped it!

i got mine about 3 week ago (unlocked american version) and have tmobile prepaid (which by the way is higher priority than mint on the same towers) and immedietly rooted and put on crdroid. Im so happy after switching from a note 20 ultra that could not be rooted. COuldnt be happier actually. I just got mines from best buy and traded in my device. Whats funny is on the one plus site its people crying about software issues and unhappiness but I cant relate since i put it on a custom rom right out the box. its very smooth. I went with the 9pro over the 10 because its the low ram low space version. I like it better anyways i dont need clunky cameras

Yeah i looked into t-mobile but their plans cost significantly more than mint for the same data amount.
and i dont really care about speed, i dont do much stuff on data that saving an extra few seconds matters to me.
i just want to be able to update/sync my 500gb+ music library over mobile network whenever i want without worrying about going over. always happens in background so saving $20 a month for slow unlimited vs fast unlimited is perfect.

cproo12 said:
Yeah i looked into t-mobile but their plans cost significantly more than mint for the same data amount.
and i dont really care about speed, i dont do much stuff on data that saving an extra few seconds matters to me.
i just want to be able to update/sync my 500gb+ music library over mobile network whenever i want without worrying about going over. always happens in background so saving $20 a month for slow unlimited vs fast unlimited is perfect.
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You should get AT&T Prepaid. Get an AT&T SIM card and find a group to join on r/gophonegroups and you can get Unlimited Max, which is true unlimited with a 22GB deprioritization threshold, for just $34 a month. 15GB is $24 and 5GB is $14. The only reason I still have Tello is because I only need a gig of data a month and it costs me $7 plus T-Mobile has the better network here now that they have midband 5G otherwise I would have AT&T Prepaid myself.

The thing is I want to get away from a network that whitelists IMEIs... I have AT&T right now and always have my whole life.
I just hate that I cannot use my Xiaomi devices with AT&T, so am looking into T-Mobile, but considering getting a OnePlus phone so i could have freedom to bounce around and try many different carriers.

cproo12 said:
The thing is I want to get away from a network that whitelists IMEIs... I have AT&T right now and always have my whole life.
I just hate that I cannot use my Xiaomi devices with AT&T, so am looking into T-Mobile, but considering getting a OnePlus phone so i could have freedom to bounce around and try many different carriers.
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Xiaomi is to blame for this. They intentionally don't put all the bands necessary for their phones to work right on US networks. T-Mobile has been starting to reject some Xiaomi devices as well for not having full band support. I would expect all three carriers to enforce whitelists by the end of this year once their respective 3G and 2G shutdowns have completed. The lack of band 71 absolutely cripples rural coverage and a lot of indoor and suburban coverage on T-Mobile and I just checked and even their new 12 series doesn't have it.

Yeah, unfortunately there aren't any xiaomi devices at all that support 71...
I guess its both companies making bad decisions. I should still be allowed to get ****ty service with my xiaomi on at&t if i want

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I have been searching for the past hour or so about this because I'd considering purchasing a OP9Pro, however I want to make sure I get the best experience.
I will be using Mint mobile (T-Mobile MVNO), but in the future there is a good chance I will change carriers to something else like AT&T, and I want to ensure compatibility. I am looking on eBay, and seeing tons of devices, many T-Mobile unlocked, or China unlocked, or North America unlocked, and I am just not sure which LE212X I should go for.
Does it even matter? I'd like to be running a custom ROM to avoid google and other spyware that might come from oneplus, I just don't know if certain variants are better/worse than others.
I come from Xiaomi where sometimes a phone for a different market has an entire different SoC.
Thanks!
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Chinese ver works on both as I've used it on both. No 5g on att though

toolhas4degrees said:
Chinese ver works on both as I've used it on both. No 5g on att though
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Chinese version is not whitelisted for AT&T. If you SIM-swapped and it worked, that was temporary. Seriously, AT&T are being real jerks about it and have been disabling phones that are fully working with VoLTE based on an internal IMEI whitelist.

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Chinese version is not whitelisted for AT&T. If you SIM-swapped and it worked, that was temporary. Seriously, AT&T are being real jerks about it and have been disabling phones that are fully working with VoLTE based on an internal IMEI whitelist.
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I'm been using a att sim from straight talk since launch day of op9 pro on Chinese model lol just no 5g

toolhas4degrees said:
I'm been using a att sim from straight talk since launch day of op9 pro on Chinese model lol just no 5g
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That's because you're on Straight Talk. That's not the same as being on AT&T. Full MVNOs like Straight Talk make their own rules (which is why a lot of H2o customers have been pissed off lately because their own whitelist is more restrictive than AT&T's and it's not published anywhere) and haven't all been on top of the shutdown. I would expect your phone to get the auto boot later this year though.

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That's because you're on Straight Talk. That's not the same as being on AT&T. Full MVNOs like Straight Talk make their own rules (which is why a lot of H2o customers have been pissed off lately because their own whitelist is more restrictive than AT&T's and it's not published anywhere) and haven't all been on top of the shutdown. I would expect your phone to get the auto boot later this year though.
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It won't has the bands and is part of a bring your own device program. They pay to use their networks won't happen

Upgrade Ideas

Has anyone upgraded to something better/worthwhile than the V30? I'm looking for ideas of something to use on Metro PCS/ Metro by T-Mobile.

Moving on from the V30
I've had my V30 for 3 years now. Came to it from a Turbo that served me well for years too. The 30 has and still works awesome thanks to all the help from xda gurus. I enjoy the freedoms of having an unlocked and rooted phone. I was wondering...
forum.xda-developers.com
I found I no longer needed root, and went to the S10+, and it's been great for me.

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Moving on from the V30
I've had my V30 for 3 years now. Came to it from a Turbo that served me well for years too. The 30 has and still works awesome thanks to all the help from xda gurus. I enjoy the freedoms of having an unlocked and rooted phone. I was wondering...
forum.xda-developers.com
I found I no longer needed root, and went to the S10+, and it's been great for me.
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Would that also be 5G capable?

Raistlen0 said:
Would that also be 5G capable?
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I chose the S10 because it still had a headphone jack, which my wife and I did want to retain, at least for now. Next time, I think I could give that up, as it seems that's how things are going these days.
Mine is an SM-G975U1, which is the non-5G version. I didn't care about 5G, as I don't have it in my area anyway. Fact is, most places don't have true 5G, so who cares? There is an updated version of the S10 with 5G, so you'll have to see what you want.

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I chose the S10 because it still had a headphone jack, which my wife and I did want to retain, at least for now. Next time, I think I could give that up, as it seems that's how things are going these days.
Mine is an SM-G975U1, which is the non-5G version. I didn't care about 5G, as I don't have it in my area anyway. Fact is, most places don't have true 5G, so who cares? There is an updated version of the S10 with 5G, so you'll have to see what you want.
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Well I do want to keep a headphone jack, wireless charging, Water resistance rating, rooting I am not sure if I really need any more. I think Vanced youtube can work on non rooted devices so I may not need it. But with 5G coming out I figured if I upgrade I may as well get one that can do it.

Yes, all the hardware you need is on the S10 series (last Samsung series that keeps the headphone jack). Wireless charging is there, as is water resistance. AFAIK, no Samsung is rootable anymore (early S10 was, and Exynos CPU still are, but USA versions with Snapdragon are not, particularly if updated to current stock ROM versions). Blame the US carriers for this nonsense.
I have Vanced on my phone, and it works fine.
5G is currently really just marketing nonsense. Unless you're in a big city, you're not going to get "True" 5G with mmWave technology, because that signal just doesn't travel far. Without mmWave, you're stuck with Sub-6G frequencies, which are a little faster than LTE, but not a lot... so I don't think it's worth bothering yet, unless you can get it cheaply.
See: https://www.androidauthority.com/sub-6ghz-vs-mmwave-5g-3051246/

Thank you for that link it was informative.