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Why cant we get any nice games für our Windows Mobile based phone like you get for the apple iphone?
Is Microsoft sleeping?
So far Ive got Need For Speed.
I want Spore but can't find it anywhere. Just an american site "Handango" but it dosn't wanna work when I try to pay via paypal
The basic market for this for iPhone users is way higher. The iPhone has a lot more kids (I'm not bashing, just don't know how to say it otherwise) and people who are generally more interested in games. The low costs for developers and low prices of the appstore attract people aswell cause it's so easy to download and play a game. It's a scene which is ideal to most gaming-companies. Graphic capabilities do not differ so much though, but there just isn't a market for it at our windows mobile camp.
deem --- If only we could have iphone os on our Touch HD!!!! -- then we could play most of the games which iphone users can!!!!
BTW-- HTC make devices for work, but the devices are even more than cappable for play and multimedia!!! Im 15years old and I have Touch HD just cuz it is a very powerfull device with great multimedia capabilities!!!!
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
deem --- If only we could have iphone os on our Touch HD!!!! -- then we could play most of the games which iphone users can!!!!
BTW-- HTC make devices for work, but the devices are even more than cappable for play and multimedia!!! Im 15years old and I have Touch HD just cuz it is a very powerfull device with great multimedia capabilities!!!!
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Not gonna happen though.
HTC is starting to focus on the multimedia side and user friendlyness as you can see, starting in a proper fashion since the diamond. In my opinion the HD has far greater multimedia capabilities then the iPhone (which it has, from codecs to viewing/sound pleasure) but it just isn't a plug and play device and you will often need 3rd party apps, which a lot of users don't understand/have any willingness to do so. But with the help of sites like XDA and software developers you can have an extremely suitable multimedia device.
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with the help of sites like XDA and software developers you can have an extremely suitable multimedia device.
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agree with that-- from xda I have found-- correct video codecs and converters, nice picts, great games (like xtrakt ), mods, finger friendly stuff!!!!!!
So bassicaly --> No xda = Iphone sells go up 200% ----- with xda = Iphone sells keep droping and people keep loving Windows Mobile!!!!!
iPhone users care more about pointless things like games, or at least the majority of them do.
I wouldn't mind having some really top notch games and some of those fun but ultimately useless apps for WM, but I can definitely live without them.
I made this poll last time, but this was around when the news of WP7 was just getting out. I'm sure that from then and now, we've learned a lot more about the OS and MS has released a lot more info regarding the OS. So with that being said, I was just curious to see if there were any change of hearts.
Vote on!
I plan on buying a windows phone whenever some nice looking hardware comes to Verizon. I might have to wait a while since ill have to buy one at full price because my upgrade isn't until 2012.
Never will I ever choose anything besides Windows 7 or their webcam for my products.
Ad notifications? What kind of nonsense is this?
And here is the real nail in the coffin:
"At launch, Windows Phone 7 will not have the ability to cut, copy, and paste. It will recognize telephone numbers and addresses, but Microsoft says the majority of users don't need 'cut, copy, and paste'."
With that attitude, do I trust this company for phones? No. The iPhone 2G had more features than this!
I hope they die in the mobile arena. Their efforts have been haphazard and poor. If it does turn out to be good (doubtful since I've used Windows Mobile since the Blackjack) I don't see anything it offers that Android or iPhone doesn't already do, and better.
Fun phones are the iPhone and Android systems. They're also very good for work as well.
Blackberry handles business as usual.
And Microsoft, your best move was investing in Apple.
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Never will I ever choose anything besides Windows 7 or their webcam for my products.
Ad notifications? What kind of nonsense is this?
And here is the real nail in the coffin:
"At launch, Windows Phone 7 will not have the ability to cut, copy, and paste. It will recognize telephone numbers and addresses, but Microsoft says the majority of users don't need 'cut, copy, and paste'."
With that attitude, do I trust this company for phones? No. The iPhone 2G had more features than this!
I hope they die in the mobile arena. Their efforts have been haphazard and poor. If it does turn out to be good (doubtful since I've used Windows Mobile since the Blackjack) I don't see anything it offers that Android or iPhone doesn't already do, and better.
Fun phones are the iPhone and Android systems. They're also very good for work as well.
Blackberry handles business as usual.
And Microsoft, your best move was investing in Apple.
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Sounds like a guy who is been around for a long time !!?. I respect your opinion but it is windows mobile what made this forum what it is today. So let it die?
It depends what kind of user you are, I have always been a fan of windows because its customizable, what is for me an added value. Now with the coming of mobile7, I dont know, but I´m sure we can support and make the OS better around here.
Iphone is in my opinion a hyped phone (especially the iphone4) and clearly is not as good as the previous versions because of its hardware malfunction.
Respecting Andriod, I like the phones and they are great but still I´m staying old fashioned and try and stick to WinMo.
As you can notice I will buy a phone with the new OS because I´m just curious and its flawless integrated with windows platforms in private and corporate perspective. What i believe is the advantage of Microsoft software.
I will buy a WP7 device in Germany as soon a device similar to the HD2 is released. For me are a display around 4 inch, arround 448 MB RAM, at least 16GB flash memory important. An amoled display is prefered.
Why WP7? As a developer I have with Silverlight much more fun and I have no fun to flash my device regularry to get the rom to a quality level that should be out of box. Is's a shame but big thanks to this board for making the good HD2 roms
Just waiting on what T-Mobile USA will bring us
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With that attitude, do I trust this company for phones? No. The iPhone 2G had more features than this!
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Sure it did.
Main difference between WP7 and other mobile OSes, that it is being complex. iOS has just core stuff - kernel, some core APIs and few built-in apps like mail or safari. Android adds some wannabe support for integrating facebook, today widgets. WP7 comes as latest one with around 2 year development as of now, including full facebook integration at launch, combining and integrating your contacts into facebook. This was just an example, that WP7 is way more complex system, than any other mobile OS we have now. It allows integration into hubs, ... while all you can do on iOS is just add your icon on app launcher. No integration into core apps.
Also the biggest fun will begin shortly. Possibility to develop for PC-Xbox360-WP7 with one source code (and just optimizing user input for mouse, joystick or touchscreen) is f...in promising. And Silverlight, C# and XNA are awesome to play and create with, compared to native coding.
I will be getting WP7 as soon as I get the opportunity. Love the UI (I'd just say more colors into icons in the applist). Love the possibilities. Love MS!
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Sure it did.
Main difference between WP7 and other mobile OSes, that it is being complex. iOS has just core stuff - kernel, some core APIs and few built-in apps like mail or safari. Android adds some wannabe support for integrating facebook, today widgets. WP7 comes as latest one with around 2 year development as of now, including full facebook integration at launch, combining and integrating your contacts into facebook. This was just an example, that WP7 is way more complex system, than any other mobile OS we have now. It allows integration into hubs, ... while all you can do on iOS is just add your icon on app launcher. No integration into core apps.
Also the biggest fun will begin shortly. Possibility to develop for PC-Xbox360-WP7 with one source code (and just optimizing user input for mouse, joystick or touchscreen) is f...in promising. And Silverlight, C# and XNA are awesome to play and create with, compared to native coding.
I will be getting WP7 as soon as I get the opportunity. Love the UI (I'd just say more colors into icons in the applist). Love the possibilities. Love MS!
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what?!!
xbox-wp7-pc game integration is a possibility? but how is a phone going to be as capable as the three cores plus graphics core of a 360?
As soon as Sprint gets a killer 4G enabled one. Bamn! I'm there.
Gota get on the leading edge again and start promoting the thing to my friends/family/co-workers/etc.
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xbox-wp7-pc game integration is a possibility? but how is a phone going to be as capable as the three cores plus graphics core of a 360?
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First of all, WP7 has a lower target resolution than XBox and PCs. You also can use a lower resolution than the native resolution of WP7 and the phone will resize the image "for free" using a dedicated chip. To target the different input formats, you have to tweak the code and use conditional compilation (like #If Xbox; #If WP7; #If Windows). If you want to utilize the full potential of each platform, there may be many conditional compilation instructions, but it is possible. Depending on the architecture, the main game logic can remain the same and does not need (many) changes.
Ima stick with it. WP7 is nice.
Yep, just as Reihnold described it.
The main logic and core is the same, you just optimalize it for different input and ofc slower HW (but with coming Hummingbird etc we will see reaching Xbox on WVGA screen in few years I bet). You disable some cool effects etc, but you do that with those #If Xbox360 fxRainbow.Enable = true; #Endif etc, so nothing huge. Compared to Linux-Android it is something quite easy. Mostly because of awesome IDE.
Wouldn't consider anything else.
I will definitely buy one. Love MS products and services and using them all integrated on my phone is the biggest thing they could ever made!
Cloud is the future
I'd be more interested to know what percentage of people would switch to wp7 in an iphone and/or android forum really. That to me is a better indicator of how well wp7 will do at launch.
I eventually want to switch, but ill do it further down the line when the OS matures.
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I voted for sticking with WP7, all the latest videos I've seen show how super smooth it is so I wont be switching to clunky Andriod anytime soon
I am waiting to actually see how well the office, RDP and other apps integrate into windows before I pull the trigger on one. I really could care less about facebook integration or twitter or any social networking. Sure I use facebook, but I want to keep my contacts seperate from my social networking. I want a business device first. Not to say I won't try one out, but I intend on keeping my Tilt2 around unless they release a WM6.5 handset with a keyboard and a faster processor and more RAM! like that will happen...
And if it comes to switching platforms, android is next in line. No apple products ever in my house.
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No apple products ever in my house.
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I second that
I am so ready to purchase one of Windows Phone 7 phones! Why? please... for those ppl who say WP7 is not as great as their beloved WM 6 series, you gotta let your ego go. And yes, i have HD2. So this is a customer with experiences with hacking my device and use cooked ROMs. And yes i hate using cooked ROMs. Althogh i use cooked ROMs that looks like stock version atm. But i am planning to purchase it in this holiday or wait for htc to announce HD3 the beast! I really want my phone to have 1.5ghz or something downgraded clocked duo cpu.
Every aspect of Symbian that is user facing is absolutely horrible. It might have the whistles and bells, but noone actually uses them, and the stuff which does get used, are rubbish.
Here are some examples.
1)The software keyboard. WP7 is regularly praised for having one the best keyboards available. On part with iPhone and easily better than Android. Anyone look at Symbians software keyboard? LOL.
2)Music player. The one reason people with Symbian phones will always tend to have a dedicated PMP is because the music/video client sucks. WP7 is on par with iPhone and miles better than Android and Symbian for music/video.
3)Browser. iOS has the best browser at the moment, but you can easily argue that the WP7 even in its current state presents a much better user experience than Android which has choppy and laggy panning and pinch to zoom. By miles better than Symbian.
4)Notifications. Symbian notifications are as intrusive as iOS notifications. While not as good as Android in this respect, much better than Symbian.
5)Email/Messaging clients. These absolutely suck in Symbian. Horrible fonts and poor aesthetics in general. Hard to setup.
6)Consistent UI in applications. Symbian is even worse than Android in terms of UI consistency.
7)Smoothness. Android doesn't have GPU accelerated UI and it's noticable laggier than WP7 and iOS in usage. Symbian is even worse.
These points above are what an average user faces for most of their time every time they use their phone. Symbian might have the bells and features which only 5% of the userbase may use, but for the vast population, WP7 presents a much better user experience, and a user experience that is different to iOS, and Android.
Spot on.... Symbian with the Series 60 UI was designed for non touchscreen phones and works amazingly great for such phones, but it was and is really horrible for touchscreens.
Symbian 3 still looks and feels a lot like Series 60.
Never tried ^3 so have no idea what it's like.
The earlier models are kind of WM like. Designed for clicks, not gestures.
To be fair to Symbian, with regards the browser, it may be terrible, but nobody would use it when they can get Opera Mini, would they?! And iirc, the Symbian browser support Flash video, I don't recall the WP7 browser doing so yet.
However, Symbian has been outdated for many years now, the only reason it is still selling in significant quantities is because people still like to buy Nokia phones - if it were not for Nokia, Symbian (in its present form at least), would have been dead and buried a long time ago. It really is a terrible user-experience on a touch screen, even moreso with the advent of operating systems like WebOS and Windows Phone 7 (forget Android and iOS - Android is nothing special and iOS is getting very stale now).
Shame to see Symbian go, but the fact that it has changed little since I was using it on a 6600 back in 2002, tells the story - people often slate WinMo for being outdated, harping back to 2004, but Symbian is even worse. The only thing that kept it going, as I say, was the fact it was Nokia's choice OS for smartphones.
2. I would argue that the music player in WP7 is not on par with iOS, it's better. Last I checked you had no built-in iTunes streaming directly to your iPhone and purchasing albums required you to physically sync your phone with your computer.
Of course this was a while ago, so it could have changed.
I had an N80 and N95 both Symbian 60 phones and it was amazing how slow and buggy they were. Every feature you could imagine was there, just impossible to use!
You can download music and movies direct to an iPhone, no need for syncing with a PC. Think it was added in iOS 2?
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To be fair to Symbian, with regards the browser, it may be terrible, but nobody would use it when they can get Opera Mini, would they?! And iirc, the Symbian browser support Flash video, I don't recall the WP7 browser doing so yet.
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Flash Lite, which is technically Flash 9 compatible, but some Flash 10 content may play on it. When you move to Opera Mini, you lose the capability to deal with that flash, so the stock browser being so terrible is an issue.
The availability of third-party applications is no excuse for the stock applications to suck so bad.
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I had an N80 and N95 both Symbian 60 phones and it was amazing how slow and buggy they were. Every feature you could imagine was there, just impossible to use!
You can download music and movies direct to an iPhone, no need for syncing with a PC. Think it was added in iOS 2?
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I believe he was referencing something like zune pass... also itunes whole UI is pretty lame by comparison...
I'm going to buy wave II today, why? that's because it has the same hardware as galaxy s and it's 200 CHF (stronger then USD) cheaper than galaxy s and now that the android 2.2 alpha is here, i have no reason not to buy this. I would like some quick suggestions about this device...i mean...i would want to have a moderate gaming on this device + video calling on yahoo/skype...so tell me if there are good games for bada and what's the future of this phone (android stable with dual boot?)
Dito. Got mine today and don't know whether to keep it or sell it. But where did you find an Android alpha?
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Dito. Got mine today and don't know whether to keep it or sell it. But where did you find an Android alpha?
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It's an incomplete version and i don't think it's available to everyone:
The project to port Android
Froyo 2.2 on Wave
Looking forward to more suggestions
Forget about Androbada. Nothing has been released, they only ***** about everything and I think they stopped working. Looks like a fake to me.
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I'm going to buy wave II today, why? that's because it has the same hardware as galaxy s and it's 200 CHF (stronger then USD) cheaper than galaxy s and now that the android 2.2 alpha is here, i have no reason not to buy this. I would like some quick suggestions about this device...i mean...i would want to have a moderate gaming on this device + video calling on yahoo/skype...so tell me if there are good games for bada and what's the future of this phone (android stable with dual boot?)
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Dont buy a bada device! you will be disapppinted. there is no skype or anyother voip app. if you say you want to buy it because of hardware , then i will say a hardware is useless unless it has a good software. in the same range you could buy other android device like galaxy ace. Bada app store is filled with bul**** applications. there are 13000 apps and games in market but only 10 or 20 usefull applications.13000 figure is achived because a lots of theme are in app store. due to this huge no of theme searching for a particular app is troublesome.The no. of free app available in market is not good and none of them are of any use. Web browsing experience is very poor. web browser is crap. address bar hides the top portion of page and you cant click a single link situated on top of the web page. No flash 10.1 support. And many more more disadvantages. if i try to write them all the whole page will be filled.
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Dont buy a bada device! you will be disapppinted. there is no skype or anyother voip app. if you say you want to buy it because of hardware , then i will say a hardware is useless because it has a good software. in the same range you could buy other android device like galaxy ace. Bada app store is filled with bul**** applications. there are 13000 apps and games in market but only 10 or 20 usefull applications.13000 figure is achived because a lots of theme are in app store. due to this huge no of theme searching for a particular app is troublesome.The no. of free app available in market is not good and none of them are of any use. Web browsing experience is very poor. web browser is crap. address bar hides the top portion of page and you cant click a single link situated on top of the web page. No flash 10.1 support. And many more more disadvantages. if i try to write them all the whole page will be filled.
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Thanks for the comment, it really helped me changing my mind lol.
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... there are 13000 apps and games in market but only 10 or 20 usefull applications.13000 figure is achived because a lots of theme are in app store....
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just a clarification ...there aren't 13'000 apps for Bada on the market, there are 13'000 apps on Samsung Apps for any platform (Bada, Android, JavaME, Windows Mobile..), the number of bada apps is nearly less than 3'000 + more than approximately 1'500 themes
(I think this discussion was opened in the wrong section...)
so buying wave II wouldn't be a good idea? problem is the store where i returned my phone are not paying back the money and they want me to buy a phone off their shop and they have no decent android phones (no galaxy ace..) so my only choices are:
-Wave II
-Xperia X10 mini
-sony ericsson vivaz u5i
-LG optimus one
and the phone with the best hardware is wave II...so idk what to buy
@guari: thanx for correcting me! i realised my mistake but could not correct it due to some problems in my net connection.
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so buying wave II wouldn't be a good idea? problem is the store where i returned my phone are not paying back the money and they want me to buy a phone off their shop and they have no decent android phones (no galaxy ace..) so my only choices are:
-Wave II
-Xperia X10 mini
-sony ericsson vivaz u5i
-LG optimus one
and the phone with the best hardware is wave II...so idk what to buy
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better search on www.gsmarena.com to know specs of every phone on your list. compare every ones spec before buying.
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so buying wave II wouldn't be a good idea? problem is the store where i returned my phone are not paying back the money and they want me to buy a phone off their shop and they have no decent android phones (no galaxy ace..) so my only choices are:
-Wave II
-Xperia X10 mini
-sony ericsson vivaz u5i
-LG optimus one
and the phone with the best hardware is wave II...so idk what to buy
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ehh is difficult to choose between those four, but all have the same price? in this case probably the waveII would be the best choice...2th the optimus one, is a good device with froyo, but it has a lower-end hardware, regardless of the operating system, you'll feel the difference with the wave (small, low quality and low resolution display, worst camera, especially for video, really poor gpu, no front camera for videocall...)
You said you'll use it for gaming and skype, if you don't want it now (especially skype will be availabe in future), waveII it's good for you
Bada is new so it has disadvantages but to say that it sucks...No.
For what can you use your phone? To make a call? that works...
To write a message on a forum? that works also...
To use as gps? that works... (bought a life time license for route66)
To play a game while I'm on the toilet? that works also...
regards
btw bada 2.0 is coming
Well to be honest, if the person refuses to refund. The only choice i have is to buy Wave II. Tobe honest, i love playing games on smartphones so these are the things why i would like to buy a smartphone.
-Gaming high end...
-Youtube (good quality video)
Skype is just an addition since wave II got front facing camera but i guess there'll be one in the future. I also got interested in buying Wave II when i heard that android was being ported to the phone and of course there are heck loads of things to do on android rather then Bada in terms of gaming...but i don't want to buy an android phone with low end hardware only because it's android...
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Well to be honest, if the person refuses to refund. The only choice i have is to buy Wave II. Tobe honest, i love playing games on smartphones so these are the things why i would like to buy a smartphone.
-Gaming high end...
-Youtube (good quality video)
Skype is just an addition since wave II got front facing camera but i guess there'll be one in the future. I also got interested in buying Wave II when i heard that android was being ported to the phone and of course there are heck loads of things to do on android rather then Bada in terms of gaming...but i don't want to buy an android phone with low end hardware only because it's android...
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Keep in mind that there are still not so much good games for Bada.
Also not all youtube clips play on bada.
And still I like my phone.
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Keep in mind that there are still not so much good games for Bada.
Also not all youtube clips play on bada.
And still I like my phone.
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You wouldn't have said that if you would've owned a Samsung galaxy S but surprisingly it's way too expensive compared to Wave II.
What do you mean by "Also not all youtube clips play on bada."
There is no true application for youtube in bada like for android.
It's a link on browser.
Not the same application for Facebook too.
But there is a very good application for Dailymotion.
I have both galaxy and samsung s8500, I use daily the galaxy S because of size screen and facebook application.
But I love my bada phone, very simple to use, good battery life, excellent photo and camera recorder.
You will only be disappointed if you love installing a ton of applications on your phone... If you have a normal utilization (phone, internet, sms, photo, video) wave II is a very good phone very stable. And Bada 2.0 is coming
how knows when bada 2.0 would be comming...and the bad news about bada is that it's not like android where everyone can develop their own apps/games and upload it on the market...i have no idea which set to buy now...
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...and the bad news about bada is that it's not like android where everyone can develop their own apps/games and upload it on the market...
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and why not? sure that anyone can develop apps and upload them to the market ...I did it
yet for few month, certification is also free...
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and why not? sure that anyone can develop apps and upload them to the market ...I did it
yet for few month, certification is also free...
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let me rephrase, what i meant is, not MANY people as android has, develop apps for bada. OR to make it simple, bada devs are retarded
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You wouldn't have said that if you would've owned a Samsung galaxy S but surprisingly it's way too expensive compared to Wave II.
What do you mean by "Also not all youtube clips play on bada."
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He means that youtube videos on desktop version which use flash version more than Flash 9, will not play. But you can get most of the videos on mobile youtube and the quality is awesome on wifi. On 3g, it automatically changes to low quality.
Hi everyone. Firstly I didn't find any topic about Apple Watches, It could be just because this site is interested with android. I'm from Turkey, the prices of the smartwatches are too much money. I have been thinking to buy a smart watch for 3 months. But I can't decide which one is worth to buy. I have an Iphone 6s Plus so that Apple Watch may be appropriate. On the other hand, Huawei Watch has great design which suitables for lots of clock faces. Sometimes I think of Garmin Fenix 3, Its obvious that fenix 3 is ageless, has e ink screen like kindle paper white and has much more accurate gps built in as well as sports features. I am pendulate, can you help me guys?
With iPhone, Apple Watch series 2 has no match because everything else has limited functionality I believe as I have used Huawei watch with iPhone but now using Apple Watch series 2.
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With iPhone, Apple Watch series 2 has no match because everything else has limited functionality I believe as I have used Huawei watch with iPhone but now using Apple Watch series 2.
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Would recommend Apple Watch S2 to me? I don't know where you live at, but, I assume that you live in USA, the price of Apple Watch series 2 is 1799 Turkish liras. Would you give this Watch 1799 dollars in USA?
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Would recommend Apple Watch S2 to me? I don't know where you live at, but, I assume that you live in USA, the price of Apple Watch series 2 is 1799 Turkish liras. Would you give this Watch 1799 dollars in USA?
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It's a ridiculus way of comparison. I assume you are looking at a 42mm alluminium version. In Russia it starts from 33 500 rubles. Would you get it for 33 500 liras? Anyway, in the US it starts from $399. 1800 liras is about $480. And ₽33500 is $560. I don't know, whether it a lot in Turkey or not. In Russia it is the average salary. At least, Turkish prices are not the highest.