About this slowness on Android 10 - Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite Questions & Answers

I am using my phone for finance app. It was on 3 days in a row and i didnt use any app other than that.
Here is my thought:
Its like there is a hidden timer on this phone. It triggers slowness after some time.
I cant even write with keyboard. Its like:
a--1sec later--b--1sec later--c--1sec later--d--1sec later--e
If this is not planned obsoloscence then what is. It started with Android 10 update.

perfect_ said:
I am using my phone for finance app. It was on 3 days in a row and i didnt use any app other than that.
Here is my thought:
Its like there is a hidden timer on this phone. It triggers slowness after some time.
I cant even write with keyboard. Its like:
a--1sec later--b--1sec later--c--1sec later--d--1sec later--e
If this is not planned obsoloscence then what is. It started with Android 10 update.
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i think that maybe a yes but there's also my "paranoid" stuff that i conclude with this phone
1. the kernel. maybe there's a bit of a problem on the kernel and i didn't know if someone already change their kernel and notice some difference a big difference with the stock kernel
2. the feedback app. idk why but i think the feedback app is keep running in the background and took alot of ram (idk its just maybe)
3. custom code. like you're saying maybe there's a customized code in the phone software. cause my friends phone had a same lag problem and it's not a mi a2 lite phone it's a xiaomi redmi note 8 pro.
4. lazy code. maybe xiaomi didn't optimized the software for mi a2 lite and just gave it straight away to the user.
that's just my opinion and this is not 100% true. it's sounds weird, but it's just my opinion.

Br8back said:
i think that maybe a yes but there's also my "paranoid" stuff that i conclude with this phone
1. the kernel. maybe there's a bit of a problem on the kernel and i didn't know if someone already change their kernel and notice some difference a big difference with the stock kernel
2. the feedback app. idk why but i think the feedback app is keep running in the background and took alot of ram (idk its just maybe)
3. custom code. like you're saying maybe there's a customized code in the phone software. cause my friends phone had a same lag problem and it's not a mi a2 lite phone it's a xiaomi redmi note 8 pro.
4. lazy code. maybe xiaomi didn't optimized the software for mi a2 lite and just gave it straight away to the user.
that's just my opinion and this is not 100% true. it's sounds weird, but it's just my opinion.
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I've uninstalled around 35 system app. Including Mi Feedback and Mi Community. So this is unlikely. But maybe some other core system apps idk.
When u use Mi Feedback app to report any bug with ur logged in account, ur phone starts to collect some type of statistics daily (from debug watchdog) and probably it giving daily reports to xiaomi even when u dont want to send. Its automatic. But i have uninstalled it.
Here is the list of Stock Android 10's bloatwares (35 app) that i remove.
Code:
com.android.protips
com.google.android.projection.gearhead
com.android.bookmarkprovider
com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.double
com.android.companiondevicemanager
com.google.android.tag
com.goodix.gftest
com.android.theme.color.green
com.android.managedprovisioning
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.corner
com.google.ar.lens
com.google.android.feedback
com.mi.global.bbs
android.autoinstalls.config.Xiaomi.daisy
com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.telemetry
com.fingerprints.sensortesttool
com.android.internal.display.cutout.emulation.tall
com.android.certinstaller
com.mi.AutoTest
com.huaqin.factory
com.miui.bugreport
com.android.nfc
com.android.stk
com.android.htmlviewer
com.google.android.apps.maps
com.google.android.webview
com.google.android.apps.work.oobconfig
com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox
com.android.wallpapercropper
com.google.android.gms.location.history
com.android.theme.font.notoserifsource
com.android.traceur
com.android.wallpaper.livepicker
com.android.providers.userdictionary
I didnt use yet a rom with 4.x kernel.
Miui ports has same issue. But not that bad as Android 10. Because theyre based on Android 9.
Lazy code, Bad Kernel, Unoptimized OS. These are Xiaomi's motto. Because we all know what we experienced.
It would even be a hardware dedicated to trigger slowness. Some kind of little chip. They can do this because no one cares these type of phones.
I didnt check yet the Cpu, Gpu, Ram freqs and IO speed when this slowness happen. But next time i am gonna do this.
When this timer trigger slowness it shrinks sometype of pipe that can cause slowness on this phone. This could be hardware or software.

Br8back said:
i think that maybe a yes but there's also my "paranoid" stuff that i conclude with this phone
1. the kernel. maybe there's a bit of a problem on the kernel and i didn't know if someone already change their kernel and notice some difference a big difference with the stock kernel
2. the feedback app. idk why but i think the feedback app is keep running in the background and took alot of ram (idk its just maybe)
3. custom code. like you're saying maybe there's a customized code in the phone software. cause my friends phone had a same lag problem and it's not a mi a2 lite phone it's a xiaomi redmi note 8 pro.
4. lazy code. maybe xiaomi didn't optimized the software for mi a2 lite and just gave it straight away to the user.
that's just my opinion and this is not 100% true. it's sounds weird, but it's just my opinion.
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It is a thing more to do about kernel, when i was in stock i was using always custom kernel
With this was working okay, not keeping as many apps in background as i would like but at least it took far more time to need to restart
Like instead of 2 days about more than a week
Enviado desde mi Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite mediante Tapatalk

I haven't noticed slowness, just apps dying. If you have apps trying to restart in the background that could cause slowness?
I tried to compare my phone before and after. It seemed perfectly normal, just that the wrong apps were being kept in ram. Apps I didn't care about (while the ones I did care about were killed). Properly written background apps were not killed (but we're asked to reduce memory pressure).
I have been rebooting my phone every morning and it's like it was under android 9.

Do you guys think that a factory reset would help somewhat? I want to know your opinion before erasing everything.

i'm using aosip pizza + butterfly kernel and these problems never happened again

what exactly does this service actually do
com.qualcomm.qti.qms.service.telemetry

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Is Oxygen OS as good or better then MIUI?

In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
TheTempleRunner said:
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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Get a Mi phone for all those features plus a mi phone will have better support for miui roms. Oxygen os is close to stock with some little functional tweaks. it doesn't have anything fancy like miui. But if you would ask me which rom is better i would say oos. it's simple clean less gimmicky. Hope this helps you.
Hi,
If you want to try MIUI, I suggests, buy Mi5... A MIUI port won't stable than an original one.
From my perspective: MIUI is really beautiful... If you see the screenshots.... You should try it. I think, everyone tried at least once... But for daily driver? No way. If you ever used AOSP based roms (oos, cm, etc), you won't use MIUI. I'm 80% sure, that you'll replace the original launcher. Than you'll sick some annoying incompatibles... Just look at MIUI forums. Problems with pop-up windows (for example Facebook messanger), problems with Android Pay, etc, etc.
I was ordered Mi5 (4/128G), but it went to out of stock, so I got refund... That was my luck. Now, I'm a happy OP3 user, and I don't need MIUI... That's my opinion.
As someone who previously always used stock or near stock ROMS, I currently own a Xiaomi Mi5. I ran with Miui for about a few weeks, but it really frustrated the hell out of me. Yes it looks nice, but I was always finding background apps just randomly stopped working or you had to allow extra security settings. I tried Google Now Loader on it, but that randonmly stopped working. In the end, I've flashed CM on it. So much better.
Going from a stock or near stock rom to MIUI is like going from Android to Apple. I will be returning my Mi5 to stock and selling on, as I now have a OP3 on the way.
Another reason - community support for OP3 is already strong. The Mi5 support thread is a joke.
TheTempleRunner said:
In comparison to Xiaomi's MIUI how is the Oxygen Os?
Does it have...
Call recording option in dialler without any third party software.
Something like a security app to clean cache, scan for virus's and grant permission for apps.
Inbuilt backup and restore option which backup all user data plus apps user made data to cloud.
Power options to change power saving profile according to time and restart the sevice automatically at given time like 6am.
And if you have used both MIUI and OOS... who do you think is better?
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why dont you try the hos
for me OOS is better than miui. as i prefer stock android ui than heavily skinned miui.
MIUI 8 is cool- looking, feature-rich, but i just dont like the ios lookalike UX.
I have bad experiences with Oxygen in OP1 and 2, always uses CM or H20 ,
but if you are wondering about phones which running those 2 OS - Xiaomi mi5 and OP3, i think i should go for OP3, MI5 looks cheap with white color,and huge bezels
All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers mobile app
I think both are not compareable. They try to reach different goals (MIUI feature rich and pretty colorful while OOS wants to add some features but stay close to stock). It depends mainly on the user.
I will be happy with tweaked OOS once my device will be delivered while you can count on custom ported MIUI roms. There's not that better one imho
CrashTestDroid said:
All the features you mentioned are available in the Chinese rom for OnePlus phones. Call recording is there, extra app permissions lockdown, etc. You'll have to install GApps manually if you need it.
The OP3 isn't on that page yet but should be soon.
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It mean "call recording" is not available in Oxygen?
I expect your answer to flash Oxygen. My OP3 is running H20 and if it isn't "call recording", i will not flash.
all oxygen is is stock android with a few apps from oneplus. plus it supports layers themeing. so yes IMO its almost as good as getting a nexus and much better than miui.
OOS on a Mi5?
I'm not sold on the aesthetic and a couple aspects of the OP3, I quite prefer the Mi5. I'm strongly considering attempting to load OxygenOS onto the 4/128gb Mi5 as my next phone and it sounds like people in this thread might have direct experience with this setup.
Any thoughts/tips? I unfortunately can't wait for the new Nexus phone(s) but I'm also considering a couple phones from ZTE & Huawei...
Thanks
Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
Keij0 said:
Porting OxygenOS would be hard and pointless at this point, because Mi5 doesn't even have kernel sources and a working AOSP ROM. If you really want iOS lookalikes, I would recommend OPPO phones. They didn't release flagship for a couple years, but at least they know how to develop software well. R7 Plus has even Cyanogenmod 13, I believe.
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Thanks but I specifically don't like iOS and wanting a phone that doesn't look like an iPhone is part of the draw towards the Mi5. That R7 Plus is an interesting phone, but for me the screen is too big and the CPU & GPU are quite subpar.
No one who makes a smartphone for the US has made one with the specs I'm looking for. OP3 falls short, the Nexus 6P is too far behind now, I find the Galaxy S7 to be hideous, the G5 was a disappointment. The HTC 10 is the closest bet but it's battery life sucks probably due to its pointlessly 4K screen.
The Huawei P9, Honor V8, ZTE Nubia Z11, and the Mi5 Pro are my top contenders at the moment, but there's no way I'm using their own OSs.
IMO Samsung is a big disappointment, because of their weird things like Knox.
boy i hate miui.. its known to bring gingerbread memory leak issues to marshmellow ! hahaha on the mi5 it restarts apps unnecessarily lol
Gingerbread didn't have memory leaks... or I've not experienced them while I was using it. In comparison, lollipop and above always had them on my Z2. That's why I started porting SailfishOS
Simontjee said:
Hope to See a miui rom for the op3 soon. Now using the mi launcher on it.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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I'm using the Mi launcher too. The look and feel of Miui and the best of OOS or Exodus Rom
OOS is great out of the box - stock Android with goodies (and useful goodies at that). Really stable and fast.
And since it's very near to stock Android, many Xposed modules work, so you can customize it much very easily.
It is beyond me why someone could prefer MIUI over that.

What Is The Best Rom For Performance

Can someone please tell me what rom is the best for performance..
I dont care about battery..i just want to make this device faster without lag..
Can you all suggest me what rom ,apps, mod, or trick to make this device run smoother without lag..
Just use the stock rom for the least amount of headche. This is a low end phone by todays standards and I only use it as a backup phone for testing. It overheats easily and the cpu will throttle. Some (many?) custom roms don't do a good job of thermal management and the phone will reboot or bootloop.
Top roms (all nougat builds), I personally use DOTS and I've been using it for months.
- AICP
- COLT OS
- DOTS ROM
barrack1 said:
Just use the stock rom for the least amount of headche. This is a low end phone by todays standards and I only use it as a backup phone for testing. It overheats easily and the cpu will throttle. Some (many?) custom roms don't do a good job of thermal management and the phone will reboot or bootloop.
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Yup...im reverting back to miui9.currently using linage0S 14..
My phone so much lag.
After reverting to miui9 is fast and no lag anymore
More smoother than my mi a1 :laugh::laugh:
blackxmafia said:
Yup...im reverting back to miui9.currently using linage0S 14..
My phone so much lag.
After reverting to miui9 is fast and no lag anymore
More smoother than my mi a1 :laugh::laugh:
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Stock MIUI is very bad for battery life and sometimes lags as well.
What I normally do is freeze some of the problem built in apps manually using the paid version if Titanium backup to improve things.
barrack1 said:
Stock MIUI is very bad for battery life and sometimes lags as well.
What I normally do is freeze some of the problem built in apps manually using the paid version if Titanium backup to improve things.
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Im using miui 9 rooted
-greenify
-lspeed
-ssd boost
My phone is faster now.
Before this there so many lag on linageOS14
blackxmafia said:
Im using miui 9 rooted
-greenify
-lspeed
-ssd boost
My phone is faster now.
Before this there so many lag on linageOS14
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I feel apps like greenify, lspeed, ssdboost won't really solve the issues properly with stock MIUI battery drain and create more spyware risks. All of those apps can access the internet and if you use 2FA apps or banking apps, those apps can read keystrokes and seed data (since the hardware backed encryption/keystore is not working properly for redmi1s) and send it off through the internet.
barrack1 said:
I feel apps like greenify, lspeed, ssdboost won't really solve the issues properly with stock MIUI battery drain and create more spyware risks. All of those apps can access the internet and if you use 2FA apps or banking apps, those apps can read keystrokes and seed data (since the hardware backed encryption/keystore is not working properly for redmi1s) and send it off through the internet.
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in your view what will be the most stable MIUI version for Redmi 1S.
harsha1097 said:
in your view what will be the most stable MIUI version for Redmi 1S.
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Im using miui9 stable right now...its feel faster and smoother than miui8 imo
But now Currently downloading 3 other rom, LinageOS14, ColtOS and DotOS..im gonna try using each of them..
ColtOS, Resurrection Remix, Mokee are based on Cynogenmod/Lineage so they are going to be similar and may all have the same bugs of LO.
harsha1097 said:
in your view what will be the most stable MIUI version for Redmi 1S.
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I haven't used MIUI in a long time until recently but I found MIUI 8 to be acceptable after some tweaking. I uninstalled some spyware/bloatware - analytics, msa, mi* and the battery life was reasonably ok. MIUI 9 came out after I switched to LO.
Generally MIUI is going to be the most stable with the best performance for normal use but the battery life is poor before some tweaking. The cpu is slow and overheats easily in any case so there is only so much any rom can do.
i use AICP,n no problem until now..
HIi,
Read my post on DOT OS regarding ROM performance.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...cial-dotos-t3707240/post76388652#post76388652
I feel better now with lineageos microG + magisk v16. battery look better cause no google play service that full running in the background , and I can get some tweaks that I like in magisk moduls
"MIUI7" was the last time I used stock rom, and I don't want to back even MIUI9 (based kitkat)
still using XenonHD rom one week, and stable enough for daily use
Resurection remix and DOT OS are the best roms for redmi 1s

Mi A2 lite with custom ROM question.

Hey, I have a Mi A2 lite with stock android one. But it really CANT multitask. It always kill the apps and restart them, I've tried everything and nothing work. If I change it to another kernel like lineageOS etc, would it fix? Do you have problems with your custom ROM android? For example, you go from YouTube to Facebook without having to reload all apps?
Reokun said:
Hey, I have a Mi A2 lite with stock android one. But it really CANT multitask. It always kill the apps and restart them, I've tried everything and nothing work. If I change it to another kernel like lineageOS etc, would it fix? Do you have problems with your custom ROM android? For example, you go from YouTube to Facebook without having to reload all apps?
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I didn´t find any option on stock Android One nor custom roms to avoid apps to be reloaded, in Miui there are options to keep them for days and more. When I use a vanilla custom rom based and I want to keep certain apps running I ever use the app KeepRunning from Defim developer, you have to set a time and your marked apps will be running there as long as you want.
SubwayChamp said:
I didn´t find any option on stock Android One nor custom roms to avoid apps to be reloaded, in Miui there are options to keep them for days and more. When I use a vanilla custom rom based and I want to keep certain apps running I ever use the app KeepRunning from Defim developer, you have to set a time and your marked apps will be running there as long as you want.
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My old cellphone didn't have that problem, all xiaomis phone kill apps like that? I can't even switch from YouTube to Chrome without reloading, it literally kills the apps and ram stays at 2.5 GB, from 3. I gonna have to buy another phone probably.
Reokun said:
My old cellphone didn't have that problem, all xiaomis phone kill apps like that? I can't even switch from YouTube to Chrome without reloading, it literally kills the apps and ram stays at 2.5 GB, from 3. I gonna have to buy another phone probably.
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No, this is not by the side of phone models, all the newer phones do that, this is hardly introduced from Google as every new Android version is out there.
I had many Xiaomi devices but really so far as supposed to be Android One is not good in various senses like those running Miui.
My last Mi 8 Lite could hold easily 8 and more tasks without any issue and when I want to sure that certain special apps remain alive was as simple as lock it/them in recents, exclude it/them from battery management and maybe disabling Miui optimization feature.
I´m actually using Miui and can keep atleast 5 tasks maybe cause this firmware is not optimized and didn´t come with it.

Question Are apps like Naptime and Servicely relevant anymore in Android 12?

Some people are still arguing about this purely from anecdotal experiences.
That's a very good question and now I want to find this out as well... I've installed Gsam Battery Monitor, Greenify, Servicely and Naptime.
I'm on Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM (Stable). I used to have better battery life (especially on Standby!) when I was still on an AOSP-based Custom ROM (ArrowOS). I have a feeling that the MIUI Always-On-Display causes Android Doze to not activate and that my device is essentially awake the whole time. I'm not sure about this observation, but Settings > Battery > Sort by "Details" tells me that my device is on. The whole time...
I've unrestricted the Battery monitoring apps I've installed, I'll leave AOD enabled, and see for another night if it is actually preventing my phone from going into Doze Sleep. Next night I'll disable AOD, and the night after that I'll enable Extreme Doze-Mode in Naptime and see the behaviour then.
Rant about Xiaomi LOL:
One thing I know for sure is that MIUI is so horribly coded. I don't need to be an OS developer to know this, you can just feel how dirty their custom implementations are. Ranging from their AOD, their Navbar/Gesture Controls, to the Adaptive Refresh rate.
It's like Xiaomi is trying to make the software deliberately feel cheap, because otherwise their phones would be too good, because their hardware is really good for the price. You can't just make a Poco F3 300€. The hardware is insanely good, but the Stock ROM is crap.
cyanGalaxy said:
I've installed Gsam Battery Monitor, Greenify, Servicely and Naptime.
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I have stop using Greenify (it has not updated for 2 years) and lately have also replaced Naptime and Gsam/AccuBattery for BatteryGuru which combined both the main features (battery monitoring and aggressive Doze function).
I'm on ArrowOS 12.1 now, it seems Android11 gave me the best battery life, A12 was horrible and A12L is bearable.
I think it's time I stop worrying about battery and just replace the damn thing every 3 years lol.
mocmocmoc said:
I have stop using Greenify (it has not updated for 2 years) and lately have also replaced Naptime and Gsam/AccuBattery for BatteryGuru which combined both the main features (battery monitoring and aggressive Doze function).
I'm on ArrowOS 12.1 now, it seems Android11 gave me the best battery life, A12 was horrible and A12L is bearable.
I think it's time I stop worrying about battery and just replace the damn thing every 3 years lol.
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I don't think Battery Life is related to the Android Version you're using, but more which brand's ROM you use. For example Samsungs OneUI seems more trustable than MIUI in terms of Reliability.
But you're likely best served on Clean Vanilla Android, in terms of Battery Life at least.
But also make sure to use a trusted and genuine AOSP ROM. Not one of those, where the Main Dev can't write proper English and uses some obscure Custom Kernel or whatever.. Use one that's known and popular.
I did figure out that MIUI's Always-On-Display kept the CPU awake at all times. I could see it in Settings > Battery, and changing "Ranking" to "Details".
I don't know if that's normal for AOD or if it's MIUI's implementation of AOD, but my god.. AOD shouldn't drain that much. But now my battery life is normal again. ^^
cyanGalaxy said:
I don't think Battery Life is related to the Android Version you're using, but more which brand's ROM you use. For example Samsungs OneUI seems more trustable than MIUI in terms of Reliability.
But you're likely best served on Clean Vanilla Android, in terms of Battery Life at least.
But also make sure to use a trusted and genuine AOSP ROM. Not one of those, where the Main Dev can't write proper English and uses some obscure Custom Kernel or whatever.. Use one that's known and popular.
I did figure out that MIUI's Always-On-Display kept the CPU awake at all times. I could see it in Settings > Battery, and changing "Ranking" to "Details".
I don't know if that's normal for AOD or if it's MIUI's implementation of AOD, but my god.. AOD shouldn't drain that much. But now my battery life is normal again. ^^
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For all practical purposes, the best/definitive experience of Android is obtained on a Samsung device nowadays. So much so that Google released certain new features in some of their apps on Samsung devices ONLY to begin with, not even their own Pixel devices. And Pixel software experience is terrible. And Samsung has innovated so many new features that Google slowly incorporates into stock Android. Samsung Dex is still unparalleled. I personally don't like some aspects of Samsung UI. The squircle icons, the excessively round UI elements with large paddings.. Sadly, Google seems to have incorporated some of this into Android 12's Material You styling. Android 12 looks more like a Samsung One UI skin. That was my FIRST impression when I played around with Material You, i.e. how much it reminded me of Samsung's style.
I agree that Xiaomi's MIUI has a load of flaws in them. The latest is their custom per-app dark mode override has been broken since they released MIUI 13 and before that you had to do some funky things to make it show the list of apps. They never allowed us to see notification history for some strange reason. These are two issues I can think off right away. But otherwise I feel that the software is pretty decent and I had no major issues with it and the battery life with Stock ROM is quite good. I personally don't understand the vehement negativity towards MIUI. Perhaps in the past it was attrocious, but now it is decent. Just like Samsung's One UI. Remember the awful TouchWiz days!? I still have an old tablet with Samsung's touch wiz on it! Bottom line, MIUI is nothing exemplary, but definitely usable and fine, with some minor issues.
In fact, I do like some of the things in MIUI versus stock. I like the fact that the Settings button is immediately visible in the notification shade (like it USED to be on Stock Android) rather than having to swipe again to reveal the quick toggles. I do like some of their built in apps, like the Clock, Calculator (which is very feature rich) and Compass app. So, overall not too shaby.
But I ranted a lot in this thread and none of this is relevant for this topic! So back to relevance...
I do use GSam battery monitor and after a lot of usage I feel like my battery life on Stock MIUI is similar to Arrow OS. I used Arrow OS 11, I used MIUI 12 and 13 and the battery life on all of them was very similar. Arrow OS 11 had some weird bugs with incoming phone call sound and Bluetooth when using Navigation. But Stock MIUI has no such issues. I've slowly decided to stop paying close attention to battery life as it is mostly very good for my usage.
litetaker said:
For all practical purposes, the best/definitive experience of Android is obtained on a Samsung device nowadays. So much so that Google released certain new features in some of their apps on Samsung devices ONLY to begin with, not even their own Pixel devices. And Pixel software experience is terrible. And Samsung has innovated so many new features that Google slowly incorporates into stock Android. Samsung Dex is still unparalleled. I personally don't like some aspects of Samsung UI. The squircle icons, the excessively round UI elements with large paddings.. Sadly, Google seems to have incorporated some of this into Android 12's Material You styling. Android 12 looks more like a Samsung One UI skin. That was my FIRST impression when I played around with Material You, i.e. how much it reminded me of Samsung's style.
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For me the hate for MIUI stems from all the little things.
Notification History & Log being hidden (Can be accessed through an Activity Launcher),
Holding a notification and clicking "More" doesn't bring to you to the specific notification channel,
No Gestures on 3rd Party Launchers,
Recents-Animations broken on 3rd Party Launchers,
Dolby Atmos Sound effect doesn't apply to the first volume step.
Touch Sounds are way too loud, regardless of users volume,
For Google Clock to work properly, you need to disable MIUI Battery Saver,
MIUI Boot Sound is way too loud, also regardless of users volume,
Annoying additional restrictions/permission-manager which cannot be turned off anymore,
Fullscreen Pop-Up with user-unfriendly 10 second timer when trying to change sensitive permissions,
Adaptive Refresh Rate only activating when Screen-brightness is >80%, and only after 2 second delay,
YouTube, Games etc are forced to 60 Hz,
MIUI Camera doesn't respect Default-Gallery setting and always uses MIUI Gallery,
Default Camera cannot be changed,
Monet Colours cannot be customised,
Almost all apps used to get forcibly themed dark (even when the app already had Dark Mode), and you had to individually disable it for all apps. This made text from some apps unreadable.
I do like a few changes Xiaomi has done to Android with MIUI, like bringing back down the Brightness-bar (retarded change from Google), Custom Fonts, the really cool Live Wallpapers, its Dolby Atmos and much more...
I also do like many of their apps like Mi Fitness and the Calc...
But all the little issues give me micro-aggression. It's not a 100% reliable OS in my opinion and I'm still a tiny bit concerned about its Privacy & Tracking.. it's still a chinese company and China is ruled by CCP. The chinese Gov't can control their Tech companies.
Samsungs OneUI does indeed seem like a good and stable experience. But I'm also not a fan of goofy rounded corners and padding.
I bought my Galaxy Note 8 when TouchWiz was still a thing. Then a System update came and upgraded me to OneUI 1.0 and I kinda didn't like it all that much. TouchWiz looked a bit more professional to me, but that's just personal preference.
I'm more into Edgy than Curvy ;D
Yes, Naptime still makes quite a difference with its agressive dove settings and disabling sensors.
Even with how optimized Android 12 is you cannot escape bad programmed third party apps, so use something like IceBox to freeze not often used apps too
cyanGalaxy said:
For me the hate for MIUI stems from all the little things.
Notification History & Log being hidden (Can be accessed through an Activity Launcher),
Holding a notification and clicking "More" doesn't bring to you to the specific notification channel,
No Gestures on 3rd Party Launchers,
Recents-Animations broken on 3rd Party Launchers,
Dolby Atmos Sound effect doesn't apply to the first volume step.
Touch Sounds are way too loud, regardless of users volume,
For Google Clock to work properly, you need to disable MIUI Battery Saver,
MIUI Boot Sound is way too loud, also regardless of users volume,
Annoying additional restrictions/permission-manager which cannot be turned off anymore,
Fullscreen Pop-Up with user-unfriendly 10 second timer when trying to change sensitive permissions,
Adaptive Refresh Rate only activating when Screen-brightness is >80%, and only after 2 second delay,
YouTube, Games etc are forced to 60 Hz,
MIUI Camera doesn't respect Default-Gallery setting and always uses MIUI Gallery,
Default Camera cannot be changed,
Monet Colours cannot be customised,
Almost all apps used to get forcibly themed dark (even when the app already had Dark Mode), and you had to individually disable it for all apps. This made text from some apps unreadable.
I do like a few changes Xiaomi has done to Android with MIUI, like bringing back down the Brightness-bar (retarded change from Google), Custom Fonts, the really cool Live Wallpapers, its Dolby Atmos and much more...
I also do like many of their apps like Mi Fitness and the Calc...
But all the little issues give me micro-aggression. It's not a 100% reliable OS in my opinion and I'm still a tiny bit concerned about its Privacy & Tracking.. it's still a chinese company and China is ruled by CCP. The chinese Gov't can control their Tech companies.
Samsungs OneUI does indeed seem like a good and stable experience. But I'm also not a fan of goofy rounded corners and padding.
I bought my Galaxy Note 8 when TouchWiz was still a thing. Then a System update came and upgraded me to OneUI 1.0 and I kinda didn't like it all that much. TouchWiz looked a bit more professional to me, but that's just personal preference.
I'm more into Edgy than Curvy ;D
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I guess these can be frustrating issues for some, but none of this is an issue for me. I tend not to get overly worked up by minor software issues. In fact I do not mind the additional 10 second delay for sensitive permissions. For power users it maybe too annoying, but for ordinary users it is useful to show such warnings to help them avoid making big mistakes and messing up their phones or falling for scams. And anyway, it is just an extra 10 seconds delay. I do admit that blocking access to notification history is annoying but I have learned to live with it. Having the per app dark mode option is genuinely useful as it allows me to force dark mode on only some apps that I use that don't have a dark mode built in, rather than forcing it on all apps via Developer tools. Although this is not working anymore on MIUI 13.
litetaker said:
I guess these can be frustrating issues for some, but none of this is an issue for me. I tend not to get overly worked up by minor software issues. In fact I do not mind the additional 10 second delay for sensitive permissions. For power users it maybe too annoying, but for ordinary users it is useful to show such warnings to help them avoid making big mistakes and messing up their phones or falling for scams. And anyway, it is just an extra 10 seconds delay. I do admit that blocking access to notification history is annoying but I have learned to live with it. Having the per app dark mode option is genuinely useful as it allows me to force dark mode on only some apps that I use that don't have a dark mode built in, rather than forcing it on all apps via Developer tools. Although this is not working anymore on MIUI 13.
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I think the Warning with 10 sec-timer is the most infuriating one. :x
About Notification History, you can download Activity Launcher, search "Notification History" and make a shortcut for that hidden Activity to your Home screen!
That's what I did, because I use Notification Log & Notification History regularly.
However Notification-History on MIUI is a bit broken. You have to enable Light Mode to see the text properly
cyanGalaxy said:
I think the Warning with 10 sec-timer is the most infuriating one. :x
About Notification History, you can download Activity Launcher, search "Notification History" and make a shortcut for that hidden Activity to your Home screen!
That's what I did, because I use Notification Log & Notification History regularly.
However Notification-History on MIUI is a bit broken. You have to enable Light Mode to see the text properly
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Thanks a lot for the tip on how to get Notification History! That is very useful! It is stupid that Xiaomi blocks us from accessing this useful information natively and we need to use a third party app to expose this activity, but at least now I can see the history and get some info! Sometimes I get a ping on my phone and I am not sure which notification caused it. Now I can get more clarity! Yay!
BrokeBloke1969 said:
Yes, Naptime still makes quite a difference with its agressive dove settings and disabling sensors.
Even with how optimized Android 12 is you cannot escape bad programmed third party apps, so use something like IceBox to freeze not often used apps too
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We are now 1 year on, and Naptime + Servicely doesn't matter one bit on new devices. I've been running Android 13 for a while now and have never felt the need to install these two apps.
With Android 14 around the corner, app efficiency will be addressed even further by TARE and the introduction of new background APIs.
I'm still using naptime since a9/10. And see no reason to not use it. Induce deep sleep faster.
BTW, anyone noticed that naptime was removed from play store?
lapirado said:
I'm still using naptime since a9/10. And see no reason to not use it. Induce deep sleep faster.
BTW, anyone noticed that naptime was removed from play store?
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Yup i think Naptime and Servicely do improve my battery life! I can see from the Naptime Doze-logs that my phone goes to Deep Doze faster and the battery life does seem improved.
I just checked, and Naptime seems to be gone from Play Store, tho not Servicely. I think Google are being twats again...
cyanGalaxy said:
Yup i think Naptime and Servicely do improve my battery life! I can see from the Naptime Doze-logs that my phone goes to Deep Doze faster and the battery life does seem improved.
I just checked, and Naptime seems to be gone from Play Store, tho not Servicely. I think Google are being twats again...
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Hi, I could not run Naptime on Oxygen OS without Root. Did you find a solution? It worked fine on OOS11.
skyNET said:
Hi, I could not run Naptime on Oxygen OS without Root. Did you find a solution? It worked fine on OOS11.
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Does the app not start for you? You don't need Root, you can grant the permissions via ADB.
cyanGalaxy said:
Does the app not start for you? You don't need Root, you can grant the permissions via ADB.
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First of all thanks for your answer.
Yes, of course, it doesn't start properly, it shuts down quickly. I gave permissions with adb in OOS11 and it was doing its job really well (Naptime). But after I upgraded to OOS 12, I saw that the following command string "adb -d shell pm grant..." did not work and gave an error. I can't get around this problem, have you tried it? Naptime is a really successful app and OOS needs it.
skyNET said:
First of all thanks for your answer.
Yes, of course, it doesn't start properly, it shuts down quickly. I gave permissions with adb in OOS11 and it was doing its job really well (Naptime). But after I upgraded to OOS 12, I saw that the following command string "adb -d shell pm grant..." did not work and gave an error. I can't get around this problem, have you tried it? Naptime is a really successful app and OOS needs it.
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What error?
Enable USB debugging, connect your phone to PC, get the Google SDK Platform Tools, open the folder in Terminal, and type the commands exactly as written.
If you are on MIUI, you also have to enable "USB Debugging (Secure Settings)"
cyanGalaxy said:
What error?
Enable USB debugging, connect your phone to PC, get the Google SDK Platform Tools, open the folder in Terminal, and type the commands exactly as written.
If you are on MIUI, you also have to enable "USB Debugging (Secure Settings)"
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Let me show you the simplest with BBS!
skyNET said:
Let me show you the simplest with BBS!
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Try "adb shell" -> "pm grant ..........."
cyanGalaxy said:
Try "adb shell" -> "pm grant ..........."
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Need a custom ROM -- help me

I hate the stock rom of A2 Lite. Too slow and the background apps keep reloading. I need a custom rom, I already asked on other threads and no one seems to care. I'm a noob, never flashed so I don't have experience and the support is terrible around here. Please tell me which custom rom works fast and stable as of now. I need Gapps and Instagram to work, banking app, google maps. Also no bugs with incoming calls, audio or fingerprint sensor please. I don't care if it's A11 or A12, it just needs to have fast performance, battery life and background optimization. And most of all Instagram, since all the mods seem unable to run it decently. I ask for your help, thanks in advance.
Try Derpfest 12. Daily driving it currently, and still pretty good. Reminds you tho that this 5-year-old phone is already kinda slow in general because of the old hardware, so it aint gonna fix it like magic.
Chansternator said:
Try Derpfest 12. Daily driving it currently, and still pretty good. Reminds you tho that this 5-year-old phone is already kinda slow in general because of the old hardware, so it aint gonna fix it like magic.
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Thank you, I'll give it a try. How does it work with ram management?
Mist_Shape said:
Thank you, I'll give it a try. How does it work with ram management?
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Not great, not terrible. I tried a lot of ROMs (especially Android 11 and 12) and safe to say I can't tell the difference between them. So-so, if you ask me.
Chansternator said:
Not great, not terrible. I tried a lot of ROMs (especially Android 11 and 12) and safe to say I can't tell the difference between them. So-so, if you ask me.
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So you mean it only changes the aesthetics? If that's the case I'd rather stay on stock rom at this point..
Mist_Shape said:
So you mean it only changes the aesthetics? If that's the case I'd rather stay on stock rom at this point..
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I've long gone with stock ROM so I can't compare it. I've heard that Android 12 have more optimization compared to 11 though.
But again back to my point: even though it might fix some of your ROM bugs and hiccups - it's still not magic. Mi A2 Lite is a 5-years-old budget phone. I still got some slowdowns and crashes, no matter what ROM I use.
I mainly change my ROM because I need some features that only available in Android 11 (or 12).
If you need stability you can go back to the original android 8 rom where this phone was fantastic
For my part i need the settings of dnd that where implemented on android 10

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