Anyone have on they can recommend? Do they all work or are there certain things to look out for?
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Anyone have on they can recommend? Do they all work or are there certain things to look out for?
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As with many things created, there are worse and better ones. Usually, the more expensive the better. Look for one with these specs: 384khz-32bit. You may not have music which can utilize that spec but generally, this cable will be of higher quality than cables spec'd with lower values such as 192khz-24bit. If you're shopping on "Nozama", your best bet is to look at the star ratings and how many people rate the cable. The more 5 and 4 star ratings, and more importantly, the less 1 star ratings, the higher the chances of the product being a great item. But I'm sure you already knew that. Let me know which cable you go with, I'm looking for one as well.
There are many different ones to choose from, not only for quality of sound but also some may have a more neutral works signature, others may be more warm, etc...
There is a good thread at head-fi.org on this. But for starters, what kind of headphones will you be plugging into the dongle? And what is your music source?
I have pretty expensive iem so I splurged on a pretty good dongle. I mean it really depends.
Thanks both of you for the tips. I went and got the one Google sells during the week.
I tend to use my Sony WH-1000XM3 most of the time. I just wanted something for occasional use of a pair of Blon BL03 I received earlier this year. It's more for convenience and to have the ability to use either when I want to.
As far as audiophile listening goes, I don't think either are to high up there.
I had to buy the original for it to work in my car and also the external mic. Google is pulling an Apple...
AS gar as i know only the ones following the usb-c standart with an integrated da converter work. Most really cheap Chinese ones are Just cable adapter. Because huwawei etc integrated the da into their phones. Which ist actually Not usb-c compliant.
I find the stock Google one to be terrible and does not output enough volume. There are definitely better options but they are far more than 10 bucks.
Don't waste your money for others
The Tempotec Sonata HD Pro is super high quality for the price, if you can live with its form-factor. Because this dongle is a small metal box and not an inline cable adapter, I wouldn't use it while walking around or working out. For desktop / bedside / airplane kind of use it is great. It's available from Amazon for < $40 and probably from other sellers as well.
If you need to use the headphones while your phone is in your pocket and you're walking around, one of the best inline dongles is actually Apple's USB-C Audio Adapter. Note that the Apple dongle has a fairly low maximum volume when used on Android phones, so if you buy one make sure you can return it. Review here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...pple-vs-google-usb-c-headphone-adapters.5541/
In addition to the Pixel 5-only dongle problem, I have a second requirement. My Samsung S7 has, of course, a 3.5 mm socket - no dongle needed. Which means, and this one matters, I can use an external bettery pack to keep the phone going and still usable at the end of the day.
Does any P5 dongle meet this requirement, too?
I looked at the Tempotec review and discussion. There's a comment about a microUSB socket on the dongle. I'm waiting for my application for access to Head-fi to come through.
In the meantime, does anyone know of a dongle that also allows charging the P5 while a headphone dongle is attached?
I am using this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B097ZMZGDQ
It allows me to charge the device while listening to music. I use it to connect to a boombox that supplies power to the device. The boombox is not a Hi-Fi device so I don't need a fancy external DAC. This one sounds fine on the boombox. Great for any old device that doesn't have Bluetooth.
The Apple one is best bang for buck and audio quality if you like a nice flat freq response.
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I would like to be able to connect my Evo to my car so that I can listen to Pandora using the car stereo. Unfortunately my car only has an Ipod dock connector.
Would it be possible to create an adapter that will allow you to connect an HTC Evo to an Ipod dock and output audio?
I have seen something similar being done with a T-Mobile G1.
webnetta.com/2008/12/27/hack-connects-t-mobile-g1-to-ipod-dock/
Is it just as simple as getting a Ipod dock extender cable like this one:
monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10831&cs_id=1083101&p_id=6828
and cutting off the male and of this cable and soldering it to a male end of microusb cable?
Any help would be appreciated.
this is a huge area where android needs improvement.
There's no audio through the Evo USB port. I was searching for the same thing last night. I have a logitech ipod speaker: (can't post links)
I also have this ipod bluetooth adapter:
What I'm thinking about doing is to hardwire the bluetooth adapter to the inside of the speaker. Then get the 5v from the dock and make a cable or adapter to go to the Evo's mini usb port. It's not the best solution, but I do have all of the parts already. If I didn't, headphones would suffice.
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
speedracerbubba said:
find the schematic for the ipod dock and solder a headphone jack to the audio inputs on the connector and you're done. I have done the same thing and it worked just fine for my friend that I did it for.
the thing that sucks about that is you will need an extra cable to charge the phone.
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Hence my bluetooth idea.
I did some digging around a couple weeks ago and came across this
talkandroid.com/guides/ipod-dock-adapter-for-motorola-droidmilestone/
It sucks you need the 3.5 adapter, but better than letting letting a perfectly good dock sit and collect dust.
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I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
oooo ^ good find. picked up two myself.
I've been using one of these in my car for about 6 months now, originally it was to have audio from netbook. It has now been doing me good on the evo.
*correct the link and bingo... Cant post the real link because of my noobness
w w w.cablejive.com/products/Dock-Input-Cable.html
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Step 1: Buy some Sugru or ShapeLock
Step 2: Buy Cheapie $1 headphones
Step 3: Buy iPod female Dock connector and MicroUSB Male end
Step 4: Use Pinout.ru to connect the points appropriately (iPod dock connector pins are pretty small and you must work quickly or your will melt the plastic, do not forget the internal resistors if needed for your application)
Step 5: Wrap it up in Sugru or Shapelock (use hairdryer to smooth it out with your hands)
Step 6: Paint and Enjoy!
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
You could also just buy this:
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
FIPO Bluetooth
I use this in my BMW for streaming over the bluetooth to the stereo. Works great and convient to just start the car and the Evo start playing music/podcast/etc.
FIPO Amazon Sprint search will turn up the 20 dollar adapter.
Childofthehorn said:
Creating custom cables and docks and such is really not that difficult, just need some decent soldering skill and patience.
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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Some of us do have the necessary skills, but do not want a ugly wire staring us in the face. Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components. That is the main reason we come here, because someone may already be on the job.
Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears. But definitely thanks for the link.
As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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now that is sweet! best solution yet!
What if we took audio out from the HDMI port?
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Also the components themselves tend to get expensive when ripping apart 3 different cords for parts... not to mention when someone tries this and melts something, then you have to go through the hassle of ordering more components.
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True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
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Now..... if your offering to do it, and you have a pricetag and are willing to offer support in case it doesn't work or kills our phones or car stereos, then I am all ears.
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I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
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As far as BT goes, the one poster is kind of right, I think the phone industry is betting on bluetooth, although its been 15 years, and BT performance is still at best Mediocre.
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You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
JoeBass said:
I just ordered a couple of these last week. My car has an ipod adapter, and this should let me connect to that and connect the 3mm to my EVO.
It's coming from Hong Kong so may be a bit longer before it's delivered. I'll report back when I get it.
I can't post links yet - go to bestofferbuy.com and search
"3.5mm Male to iPod/iPhone 2G/3G/3GS Female Adapter Cable - Black (95CM-Length)"
It's $2.60 shipped so I bought two. Can't go wrong for 5bucks
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Great find! Just ordered one for myself
Childofthehorn said:
True, But there are those of us with drive to do something unique and have something that fits our needs exactly. DealExtreme.com is a great place to buy the cables to be ripped up and dollar stores can be a real treasure trove. Craft/ART stores also have a lot of things which can be easily repurposed.
I used to be a person who did his kind of work in college, but it is time consuming and repetitive. Plus, this is likely a market of people who are not willing to spend great amounts of money on handmade products. Even if someone charged $30 each it would not be worth the average techies time, but a worthwhile effort for a high school or college student with the drive to learn and perfect.
You are correct in MOST scenarios!
It is more of an issue not with the BT technology itself rather the way it is popularly implemented. BT does have the ability to send out very high quality audio streams and many of which are nearly lossless in quality. The issues are with the device that streams and the device that receives. The chosen connection type between the two devices must be mutual. Problem is that most BT devices streaming A2DP use only SBC coding of varied bit rate and quality.
Now if you have a really well done setup that is very thought out you can have your EVO sending out a pure 320kbps MP3 or AAC or other compatible stream direct with no conversion being done in real time to a BT receiver which is MP3, etc. stream compatible and has an excellent, typically non-chip integrated, DAC with a nice buffered output. Problem is that many BT receiver chips are made to be as cheap as possible, have crappy dacs, and push out very little power (or simply have no buffer at all) to even crappier speakers. When you combine that with real time conversion of MP3 and other formats to SBC at an even lower bit rate, you have an even worse experience.
IMO, the headphone output on the EVO does not sound that good and if you have a car that does accept MP3 320k BT streams and you use an alternative media player like meridian that allows that kind of behavior, then it should be fine for even above average car audio.
Have a Great Listening Experience!
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Well, that was a mouthfull. Thanks though, it helps a little. I did spend quite a while researching different Bluetooth headsets. But alas, as you have pointed out, although most of what is considered to be high end headsets, still only use bluetooth 2.0. The EVO also doesn't do a very good job at streaming bluetooth. Pandora and Music Player skip horribly. I was not aware that Meridian did a better job. I guess, that might have been another option.
As far as the bluetooth headsets go though, if your looking for A2DP, the selection is still limited, unless you want a dongle type headset, which IMO, you might as well use a wire. The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat. Then comes the Car audio as well as home audio into play. I use mine as a MP3 player both on the go and in the car. My car has a Audio In jack, so I am happy with that.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Well, that was a mouthful....
The Motorola, Rocketfish and Jabra headsets of top end just don't do as good a job as seating properly, unless you spend 50+ dollars on a custom ear piece.
There really are a lot of trade-offs in audio performance, but a good set high quality ear buds or headphones are hard to beat.
I ordered a E5 Amplifier to go with mine, it should be here in a week or two. While my headset has finally broken in, I could do with about 10-20% more volume, but I am hoping for a little improved base since it will have the power to push my Vmoda Remix.
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Yeah, The E5 is a decent beginner set. You may want to look at building a CMoy at some point, make sure to use slightly larger electrolytic caps and good film caps (resistors don't matter as much). If you make one with good parts and socketed chip, you can roll in to your flavor and it will take portable amps that are $100 or more to beat it. As far as kit amps go, its hard to beat a Mini3 for $100 to put together yourself.
I only say this as a person who actually owns a $450 Portable Amp and $575 Custom triple driver In-ear's. Don't even get me started about the stuff that is at home (I have way too much audio crap!)
BTW - you can make your own custom silicone ear pieces by using some Sugru or if you know an audiologist, you can get some of the Westone two part silicone that they normally use for getting impressions. As with everything, be careful and YMMV.
I wish i had the time to work on getting a USB host for the EVO so that we could use external USB DAC's (like the very small alien and grub).
00-Photon said:
I had the same problem, I think the best solution is to go Bluetooth. This will future proof you for phone changes down the line as well. Long story short, here is the best solution I've found and it works great! Just connect it to your ipod cable and stream over Bluetooth. So far it has worked with everything ipod, iPhone and iPad that I own, especially my custom installed iPhone stereo connector.
Just look up item number 190402178083 on eBay.
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Just ordered this too. The cable I ordered from Bestofferbuy . c o m was backordered, so I canceled. I agree with you, this should do the trick, saw it on another forum and looks like it will also allow some steering wheel functionality.
I ordered two through amazon, also found it on geek . com. Searching either with "Sprint Anycom Bluetooth A2DP Reciever" will get you there.
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
pauloallex24 said:
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
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The official desktop dock features a 3.5mm line out that should allow exactly for what you are thinking of.
Unfortunately early reports point put that the output of that line out is so weak that it's utterly unable to feed any amp due to a very low voltage.
Actually this and only this is the reason why i have not purchased the Note and i still stick to my iPhone. I love the ubiquty of the iPhone line out and speaker aftermarket.
elfary said:
The official desktop dock features a 3.5mm line out that should allow exactly for what you are thinking of.
Unfortunately early reports point put that the output of that line out is so weak that it's utterly unable to feed any amp due to a very low voltage.
Actually this and only this is the reason why i have not purchased the Note and i still stick to my iPhone. I love the ubiquty of the iPhone line out and speaker aftermarket.
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Dont is that (but could be). I want one with speakers. Could be that but the ganuine is a little bit expensive.
elfary said:
The official desktop dock features a 3.5mm line out that should allow exactly for what you are thinking of.
Unfortunately early reports point put that the output of that line out is so weak that it's utterly unable to feed any amp due to a very low voltage.
Actually this and only this is the reason why i have not purchased the Note and i still stick to my iPhone. I love the ubiquty of the iPhone line out and speaker aftermarket.
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Eh? I have a logitech dock I bought for my rubbish iPhone. I use a cable jive converter and my note dock and it blasts out louder than my iPhone ever did. Buy a 5mm lead and go down the shops and try out some of the docks or the wireless systems
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Fazziebear said:
Eh? I have a logitech dock I bought for my rubbish iPhone. I use a cable jive converter and my note dock and it blasts out louder than my iPhone ever did. Buy a 5mm lead and go down the shops and try out some of the docks or the wireless systems
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I can do that but I really want to buy and can use the dock without any "cheat".
Fazziebear said:
Eh? I have a logitech dock I bought for my rubbish iPhone. I use a cable jive converter and my note dock and it blasts out louder than my iPhone ever did. Buy a 5mm lead and go down the shops and try out some of the docks or the wireless systems
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I'm afraid that double amping is not the purest way to pump put music off any device. That's why a line out is a must in my book
pauloallex24 said:
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
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Get the filips. For android.
pauloallex24 said:
Hi. I want to buy a dock station to put my galaxy note and play some music (with quality) like this http://viewitem.eim.ebay.pt/Logitec...aker-Docking-StationNano44S/310354211613/item for example.
Anyone know one?
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/samsung-htib-audio-dock-soundbar-ces2012/
YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND.
Livewings said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/03/samsung-htib-audio-dock-soundbar-ces2012/
YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND.
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Really cool but no release date :s
http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us...-widget&action=devloc&q=Phillips+android+dock
The day Android gets right the speaker dock aftermarket then i will switch from iPhone.
To me getting it right is having a wired speaker dock aftermarket. I don't trust the Bluetooth A2DP profile the most Android devices use (Low encoding SBC protocol). And amping the headphone out is like pouring Chanel No. 5 over a pig. It smells better but the scent is still lousy.
I think that the very fact that there is not a serious speaker dock aftermarket for Android devices shows clearly that these devices are hardware lacking for that purpose and that's why most companies do not spend money on devising products because the final quality is handicapped from the very beginning cause there is no clean line out built in (As opposed to iPhones whose line out allow for very good sounding speaker docks).
I think the main culprit is the choice of a miniusb out instead of a 30 Pin connector like iPhones or Galaxy Tabs. That might be the limiting factor. Aside from the obvious lack of focus in the audio department that Android shows (i.e. Still no true gapless playback out of the box). And this lack of focus is shared by Windows Phone 7 to Apple delight (since most music lovers stick to them just for this very reason).
elfary said:
The day Android gets right the speaker dock aftermarket then i will switch from iPhone.
To me getting it right is having a wired speaker dock aftermarket. I don't trust the Bluetooth A2DP profile the most Android devices use (Low encoding SBC protocol). And amping the headphone out is like pouring Chanel No. 5 over a pig. It smells better but the scent is still lousy.
I think that the very fact that there is not a serious speaker dock aftermarket for Android devices shows clearly that these devices are hardware lacking for that purpose and that's why most companies do not spend money on devising products because the final quality is handicapped from the very beginning cause there is no clean line out built in (As opposed to iPhones whose line out allow for very good sounding speaker docks).
I think the main culprit is the choice of a miniusb out instead of a 30 Pin connector like iPhones or Galaxy Tabs. That might be the limiting factor. Aside from the obvious lack of focus in the audio department that Android shows (i.e. Still no true gapless playback out of the box). And this lack of focus is shared by Windows Phone 7 to Apple delight (since most music lovers stick to them just for this very reason).
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It would be great if manufacturers exploit the use of MHL to send digital audio to these speaker docks and since MHL requires power to operate, the dock will power it.
Yeah. The DHL has potential but the speaker dock would need a built in DAC which will make the thing more expensive and bulky.
But as it stands now DHL is the only serious wired solution that i see for music lovers like me which find great the ability of docking the iPhone on a Logitec portable speaker dock that you can take almost anywhere (hotels, garden kitchen, even the toilet
This time around i thought that Samsung had got it right with the line out of the desktop dock but unfortunately it seems to work pretty bad (low voltage and interference when the dock is charging the Note).
I've been meaning to get around to building a iOS dock adapter specifically for Samsung's Galaxy series devices. I'll dive into the nitty gritty in a moment.
For now I decided to [recently] settle on a Phillips Fidelio AS351 as my drop in dock, and it actually surpassed my expectations for an A2DP connected dock. It's not the worlds best sound, but much better than I had expected. You could always grab one of them if you wanted.
Now, that adapter.
I made a post on the GSII forums about how to do this but have yet to get around to making one as such. It'd be similar to how this gent made his, without the actual auxiliary cable sticking out. Everything would go through the micro USB connection.
Just randomly wondering, who would actually purchase one if I somehow got to making them?
DarkShot666 said:
I've been meaning to get around to building a iOS dock adapter specifically for Samsung's Galaxy series devices. I'll dive into the nitty gritty in a moment.
For now I decided to [recently] settle on a Phillips Fidelio AS351 as my drop in dock, and it actually surpassed my expectations for an A2DP connected dock. It's not the worlds best sound, but much better than I had expected. You could always grab one of them if you wanted.
Now, that adapter.
I made a post on the GSII forums about how to do this but have yet to get around to making one as such. It'd be similar to how this gent made his, without the actual auxiliary cable sticking out. Everything would go through the micro USB connection.
Just randomly wondering, who would actually purchase one if I somehow got to making them?
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I think that any Note owner who happens to have iPod/iPhone speaker docks would buy a line out dock.
In my particular case is not only that i would buy the line out dock but i would buy the Note as well. I have not purchased it for this whole speaker dock (lack of quality connectivity) issue.
How is the A2DP Bluetooth profile in the Galaxy Note ? Does it use the awful sbc profile or it does use mp3/aac direct stream (as the iPhone and Nokias do) ?
The work of the dutch folk is impressive but unfortunately he is getting amped audio from the headphone out to get it amped again by the speaker dock: double amping is a no go for quality low level sounds.
Thus that the Note would have a built in line out thru the microusb would be a must. It seems that actually the Note can output audio thru the microusb (Judging from the official desktop dock) but users have reported that the signal is very weak and it renders the line out almost unusable. Quite sad taking into account how good is this device in almost every other area.
Android and manufacturers should enforce a hardware line out standard that would allow for an aftermarket of speaker docks as gorgeous as the Apple one.
elfary said:
I think that any Note owner who happens to have iPod/iPhone speaker docks would buy a line out dock.
In my particular case is not only that i would buy the line out dock but i would buy the Note as well. I have not purchased it for this whole speaker dock (lack of quality connectivity) issue.
How is the A2DP Bluetooth profile in the Galaxy Note ? Does it use the awful sbc profile or it does use mp3/aac direct stream (as the iPhone and Nokias do) ?
The work of the dutch folk is impressive but unfortunately he is getting amped audio from the headphone out to get it amped again by the speaker dock: double amping is a no go for quality low level sounds.
Thus that the Note would have a built in line out thru the microusb would be a must. It seems that actually the Note can output audio thru the microusb (Judging from the official desktop dock) but users have reported that the signal is very weak and it renders the line out almost unusable. Quite sad taking into account how good is this device in almost every other area.
Android and manufacturers should enforce a hardware line out standard that would allow for an aftermarket of speaker docks as gorgeous as the Apple one.
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Fair enough. I've already got an iOS dock and I know others do, so that was a random tidbit about that.
As for the quality, I couldn't tell you to be honest. It sounds far better than any A2DP device I've used so I'm assuming it uses the second. However this could be partly due to the dock itself.
Now for the audio out, in one of my links I refer to that very fact. I've ordered some parts to see about actually making an iOS dock adapter to make use of the line out, so we'll see what happens.
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Fair enough. I've already got an iOS dock and I know others do, so that was a random tidbit about that.
As for the quality, I couldn't tell you to be honest. It sounds far better than any A2DP device I've used so I'm assuming it uses the second. However this could be partly due to the dock itself.
Now for the audio out, in one of my links I refer to that very fact. I've ordered some parts to see about actually making an iOS dock adapter to make use of the line out, so we'll see what happens.
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Are you saying the Samsung Galaxy Note A2DP streaming is a quality one that allows for a decent audio at high volumes without the typical SBC profile cracking noises and breaking high end ?
If that was the case then just a Logitech Bluetooth adapter could do the trick for quite a while and the Note would turn to a go in my book since this is the only issue that it's holding me back.
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Are you saying the Samsung Galaxy Note A2DP streaming is a quality one that allows for a decent audio at high volumes without the typical SBC profile cracking noises and breaking high end ?
If that was the case then just a Logitech Bluetooth adapter could do the trick for quite a while and the Note would turn to a go in my book since this is the only issue that it's holding me back.
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I only get distortion on the dead rare occaision, really only due to the limited bandwidth during some songs that have a lot going on. Otherwise you wouldn't really believe it were over Bluetooth. Don't take my word for it, see if you can get your hands on one. Hell, a GSII should work as they've got the same internals.
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I only get distortion on the dead rare occaision, really only due to the limited bandwidth during some songs that have a lot going on. Otherwise you wouldn't really believe it were over Bluetooth. Don't take my word for it, see if you can get your hands on one. Hell, a GSII should work as they've got the same internals.
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The only Bluetooth fed sound system that i've heard yet that i'd might be close to take for a wired system is my JVC AVX-44 when it pumps out when fed via Bluetooth by my iPhone. Anyway i've listened to very few Bluetooth devices.
But if the Note A2DP is close to that i might jump in. Thanks a lot for your feedback.
Going a bit offtopic i'd say that there are people who don't like music. There are people who just like music.There are people who like music a lot.And then there are people who love music and the sound and timbre of the instruments even appreciating the space between them.
Is in this realm where i find hard to let go of the iPhone. That's how good it is sound wise. You need a dedicated player amped with a very good portable amp to catch up with the iPhone headphone outwhich i deem as a unique piece of engineering.
Anybody who has paired an iPhone with a multidriver iem (Westone UM3x, Shure SE535...) may understand this last hurdle standing between me and the gorgeous Note.
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The only Bluetooth fed sound system that i've heard yet that i'd might be close to take for a wired system is my JVC AVX-44 when it pumps out when fed via Bluetooth by my iPhone. Anyway i've listened to very few Bluetooth devices.
But if the Note A2DP is close to that i might jump in. Thanks a lot for your feedback.
Going a bit offtopic i'd say that there are people who don't like music. There are people who just like music.There are people who like music a lot.And then there are people who love music and the sound and timbre of the instruments even appreciating the space between them.
Is in this realm where i find hard to let go of the iPhone. That's how good it is sound wise. You need a dedicated player amped with a very good portable amp to catch up with the iPhone headphone outwhich i deem as a unique piece of engineering.
Anybody who has paired an iPhone with a multidriver iem (Westone UM3x, Shure SE535...) may understand this last hurdle standing between me and the gorgeous Note.
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Understandable. I personally would have never used Bluetooth for music playback but the convenience when paired with the dock is great. I was skeptical and I'm still debating on keeping it. I probably will because it makes a great portable dock for my current phone.
As for the audio part, if you use an iPhone as your primary portable media player you aught to be reasonably content with the Note in terms of SQ. I've used it and a Clip+ with a pair of SE215s and HD 25-1 IIs and I'd say they're just about on par.
I wish I had the money to sink into a pair of UM3s. I did luck out with a pair of K702s for home listening on the way however. Pretty stoked about that.
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After receiving my Mi Mix 2, I ordered an adapter to listen to music while charging.
https://m.banggood.com/Bakeey-2-in-...-Pro-Max-Xiaomi-6-p-1186682.html?rmmds=search
Seemed a perfect solution, but, when connection the adapter, my phone thinks there's an headphone connected, even when there is none present. That means that the alarm sound uses the music volume setting. Which is quite inconvenient.
When using the original adapter from Xoaomi, all is well. But it's either music or charge.
Does any of you have the same experience with cheap adapters?
There is no Android standard for that specific type of accessory so unless it's actually made by your device manufacturer you are pretty much guaranteed to have one problem or another with those. It's a big problem for a lot of people. Many Android phone manufacturers decided to ape Apple's decision to drop the headphone jack but Apple actually makes the kind of adapter you are describing for their phones. Most Android phone makers do not and third party accessories rarely work well.
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There is no Android standard for that specific type of accessory so unless it's actually made by your device manufacturer you are pretty much guaranteed to have one problem or another with those. It's a big problem for a lot of people. Many Android phone manufacturers decided to ape Apple's decision to drop the headphone jack but Apple actually makes the kind of adapter you are describing for their phones. Most Android phone makers do not and third party accessories rarely work well.
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Guess I'll have to buy a couple of Xoaomi adaptors. I can still use the cheap ones in my car. Don't need alarms there lol
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Guess I'll have to buy a couple of Xoaomi adaptors. I can still use the cheap ones in my car. Don't need alarms there lol
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Sounds like a good idea. They really should throw in the adapter if the phone has no headphone jack.
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Sounds like a good idea. They really should throw in the adapter if the phone has no headphone jack.
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There actually is one adapter included, but that's not enough for my needs.
I bought this "3 in 1 USB C Aux Adapter" cable to use in my car but it doesn't seem to work right with my car for some reason.
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the USB C side it only outputs the left channel
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the 3.5mm w/ an adapter it only outputs the right channel
With my iPod Classic plugged into the 3.5mm side it seems to output both L and R channels
Anyone know of a similar type cable that definitely works with the Pixel 3? I don't really want to have to use an adapter.
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Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually wired up the aux cable incorrectly in my car. All is well and the cable works properly.
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I bought this "3 in 1 USB C Aux Adapter" cable to use in my car but it doesn't seem to work right with my car for some reason.
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the USB C side it only outputs the left channel
When my Pixel 3 is plugged into the 3.5mm w/ an adapter it only outputs the right channel
With my iPod Classic plugged into the 3.5mm side it seems to output both L and R channels
Anyone know of a similar type cable that definitely works with the Pixel 3? I don't really want to have to use an adapter.
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Let me preface...I'm definitely not an expert in the whole audio conversion area. I did start doing some light research a while back regarding USB-C --> 3.5mm adapters because I noticed that the dongle provided with the Pixel 3 caused sound quality issues with my 3.5mm Bose buds. I fly on airplanes a lot and noticed the sound output volume is significantly less with the dongle and 3.5mm headphones than using the USB-C Pixel buds. From what I've been able to gather is that the digital audio converter (DAC) chip built into most of these dongles is garbage or nonexistent.
Regarding the 2-in-1 adapter / chargers...I was also looking to buy something where I could listen to my 3.5mm buds and charge my phone at the same time BUT I stumbled across some article that basically said none of those work. If I remember correctly it had something to do with the phone itself, I think it was software related?? Maybe do some searching on this but I remember reading enough stuff where it sounded like a scammy product line so I didn't purchase. Maybe this has something to do with your L vs R channel issue??
Back to the regular dongle converter...you know how things are on Amazon sometimes, 3rd party vendors can be shady and say something is higher quality when it's really not which has made me hesitant to pull the trigger on a slightly more expensive dongle. That said, I finally purchased one today that is definitely a bit more expensive than others but it seems legit and I've found reviews in other forums referencing it. Here the link: https://www.adv-sound.com/products/accessport-lite (it can also be found on Amazon).
It should arrive in a few days so I can report back but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that audio output volume / quality isn't lost like it is with the standard dongle.
Alright, the Accessport-Lite (APL) converter arrived today. Here's what I think...regular 3.5mm headphones (I'm using Bose buds) into APL into device are definitely higher quality sound than using the converter that came in box with Pixel. You can hear more background noise, overall it's more crisp and max volume is a little bit louder, not as loud as I was hoping for however but an improvement that will make a difference when flying.
Another option...I picked up a 3.5mm splitter months ago so two people could listen at the same time. I noticed that 3.5mm headphones into splitter into Pixel box converter into device actually has higher max volume than simply headphones into Pixel box converter. Go figure. Splitters are really cheap at electronic stores. Although, I would recommend buying one from the audio equipment section as opposed to the phone section. They really upcharge you for the same exact thing that's supposed to be "specially made for a phone" which is garbage.
I also tried 3.5mm headphones into splitter into APL converter, sound quality wasn't noticably better than just APL. If anything some of the crispness seemed less.
Pixel Buds straight into device remain the loudest option. However, they do not cancel or shut out loud background noise like when flying so peak volume means nothing.
Long story short...I'm decently satisfied with the APL converter. Didn't blow me away but you can tell it's quality made and every but counts when trying to overcome loud airplane noise.
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Maybe this has something to do with your L vs R channel issue??
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Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually just had the aux cable in my car wired up incorrectly lol
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Long story short...I'm decently satisfied with the APL converter. Didn't blow me away but you can tell it's quality made and every but counts when trying to overcome loud airplane noise.
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Thanks for the heads up on this adapter! Definitely good to know about. I've seen good things about the Apple adapter too but have also seen reports of it not working properly? Have you tried that one? At $9 it's definitely on the cheaper end.
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Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually just had the aux cable in my car wired up incorrectly lol
Thanks for the heads up on this adapter! Definitely good to know about. I've seen good things about the Apple adapter too but have also seen reports of it not working properly? Have you tried that one? At $9 it's definitely on the cheaper end.
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I haven't tried the Apple one
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Well, slightly embarrassing but I actually just had the aux cable in my car wired up incorrectly lol
Thanks for the heads up on this adapter! Definitely good to know about. I've seen good things about the Apple adapter too but have also seen reports of it not working properly? Have you tried that one? At $9 it's definitely on the cheaper end.
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I've been using the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter for half a year. I like it: the Google adapter was too loud on lowest volume, and had an issue with echo in calls when using earbuds with a mic (Shure SE215). The Apple fixes all these issues and is smaller and lighter.
OK, this question is not specific to the Fold, but as this is my 1st phone without a headphone jack, I'm asking it here.
What USB-Headphone adapter do you recommend?
I have a set of Panasonic earbuds which sound good (especially with the ear cushions from my previous set of Sony Earbuds), and I'd like to keep using them.
My Buds+ won't stay in my ears inside my hearing protectors while I'm out mowing, and my Sony wireless earbuds are too large to even try.
Plus wired buds won't drain the phone battery as much as bluetooth buds will.
Hey, pTeronaut!!
To help you with a recommendation, I've searched and found some USB to Headphone adapters on BestBuy. These prices are $9 to $20. Some reputable branded adapters you can purchase for your need like. Apple USB to Headphone, Insignia, Samsung USB type. I have attached some pictures look and get your favorite one.
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I bought this mostly because it was cheap and would let me charge at the same time. It seems to work well
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08LTVDSTK/
My old Google Pixel 2 USB-C dongle works fine
I have been looking for one WITHOUT DAC. Since the DAC built in the phone is AKG Tuned, should be a Hi-Fi!