I am unsure if this thread belongs here. Kindly let me know if it doesn't or please move it.
I was wondering if the TAB S7/S7+ would let me play YouTube videos on 4K using the native app but unfortunately it doesn't for obvious reasons using stock settings.
So I figured a way to enable this using ADB. I am unsure how much this affects the battery life since I am still testing app compatibility and power usage.
ADB Commands
1. To set 4K resolution -
adb shell wm size 2400x3840
adb shell wm density 1024 (or whatever suits your eyes, mine is 1200)
2. To reset to default -
adb shell wm size reset
adb shell wm density reset
So if anyone's interested all you have to do is -
1. Download minimal ADB and install it if you do not have ADB installed.
2. Open Command Prompt in the ADB folder by pressing Shift Key and selecting the Right Click option "Open command prompt here".
3. Run "ADB devices" without quotes and accept the prompt on your device (Your device must have USB debugging enabled, if you don't know how or have it enabled you probably shouldn't be doing this).
4. Run the above "To set 4K" commands to set the display resolution to 4k.
5. Clear the app data of Youtube and restart the device.
6. (Optional/Reset) To reset the display resolution to default, just run the 2nd set of commands.
Not sure this is actually making the screen dislay 4k.
It doesn't actually MAKE your screen 4k as the display only supports 2k. The device renders everything in 4k and then outputs it on the display just like what Retina Displays or Nvidia DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) does.
Just in case you want to actually make sure everything is running in 4k, you can simply try running a 4k video on Youtube which otherwise you cant!
Stryker_Echo9er said:
It doesn't actually MAKE your screen 4k as the display only supports 2k. The device renders everything in 4k and then outputs it on the display just like what Retina Displays or Nvidia DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution) does.
Just in case you want to actually make sure everything is running in 4k, you can simply try running a 4k video on Youtube which otherwise you cant!
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Right, so what's the point? The 4k video doesn't look better on a 2k screen.
Since DSR and Retina Displays already exist, I believe there are some advantages. You have to try it to believe it. The displays feel a lot sharper, edges feel smoother, fonts look amazing, overall it just looks good on the huge display of my Tab s7+.
Coming back to that I need to ask you, did you try this before asking me the POINT. Coz I feel if you would have, you wouldn't be asking me this!
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Since DSR and Retina Displays already exist, I believe there are some advantages. You have to try it to believe it. The displays feel a lot sharper, edges feel smoother, fonts look amazing, overall it just looks good on the huge display of my Tab s7+.
Coming back to that I need to ask you, did you try this before asking me the POINT. Coz I feel if you would have, you wouldn't be asking me this!
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Yes, I did, and it looks no different. It's a 2k screen, enabling something to load a 2k screen with 4k will make no difference. Not trying to argue, just saying, it's pointless.
I accept it doesn't make any greatly significant difference but then its subjective. It was just an experiment and I wanted to try it. There are many people out there who always want to run youtube at 4k, this was simply my answer to that problem, although it has its own downside and implications.
Thanks for figuring this out! Often 4k will look better on a 2k screen than 2k on a 2k screen.
This is because pixels from youtube don't always line up perfectly to the tablet pixels and you end up with a resolution less than 2k when you have it set to 2k. When you stream at 4k from youtube, the content is delivered with smaller pixels and ends up looking better on a 2k display.
Thanks for this going to give it a try on my 7 plus.
it worked now i get the option to 2160 resolution, it does look sharper.
good work thanks very simple
Hey
When i use the command "densiti" my screen become wery BIG otherwise the "size" resolution is great
is that normal ??
There's also Newpipe to get 4K Youtube without hacking. As a bonus, it also gets rid of the ads.
Does this work on Netflix? Will the maximum resolution on netflix and prime video change to uhd?
What the Implications and Downsides to this?
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Right, so what's the point? The 4k video doesn't look better on a 2k screen.
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The point is higher bitrate. Youtube compresses videos so much so 4k will have a much higher bitrate than 1440p and look better.
Btw, use youtube vanced for 4k but use sparingly as it blocks ads. I wouldn't suggest using it very often because it doesn't support creators
What about on Samsung Dex or any kindof screen mirroring on external monitors? Any way to get the S7+ to send more than 1440p to an external monitor through any means?
For instance if you set the resolution to 4k with ADB, and then you mirror your display via a [email protected] usb-c / hdmi cable to your 4k screen, will the screen receive a 4k signal?
Can anyone (Stryker_Echo9er) try that?
jdoggawesomex900 said:
Btw, use youtube vanced for 4k but use sparingly as it blocks ads. I wouldn't suggest using it very often because it doesn't support creators
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If you have unlimited data and an old device lying around (all it has to be able to do is run the official Youtube app), you can leave the video playing on that device with ads while you watch on your S7 or whatever without ads. Best of both worlds, the only extra you pay is that little bit of electricity to run the other device.
YouTube now natively supports 4K HDR.
Now you can watch high quality 4K YouTube videos on Android phones
Support for 4K HDR playback was only there for iPhone users while Android smartphone users were only able to play YouTube videos at a maximum resolution of 1440 pixels.
www.gadgetsnow.com
Twodordan said:
What about on Samsung Dex or any kindof screen mirroring on external monitors? Any way to get the S7+ to send more than 1440p to an external monitor through any means?
For instance if you set the resolution to 4k with ADB, and then you mirror your display via a [email protected] usb-c / hdmi cable to your 4k screen, will the screen receive a 4k signal?
Can anyone (Stryker_Echo9er) try that?
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I tried doing that on my 8-series Samsung TV, unfortunately, it doesn't work on my TV via USB-C (using an HDMI Dongle) or screen mirroring. I am not sure if it would work on displays with a type-c port.
Stryker_Echo9er said:
I tried doing that on my 8-series Samsung TV, unfortunately, it doesn't work on my TV via USB-C (using an HDMI Dongle) or screen mirroring. I am not sure if it would work on displays with a type-c port.
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Thanks for trying. But do you mean that it doesn't work at all, as in you can't use dex on your TV? Or does it mean it just doesn't do 4k?
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I have a nice 1080p projector I'd love to drive with the Nexus 7 over Slimport. Performance is great, but the picture has letterboxing on the left and right due to the 16:10 aspect ratio of the tablet. Is there any way to get the Nexus 7 to output only the top 1920x1080 (ignoring the permanent soft button bar)?
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I have a nice 1080p projector I'd love to drive with the Nexus 7 over Slimport. Performance is great, but the picture has letterboxing on the left and right due to the 16:10 aspect ratio of the tablet. Is there any way to get the Nexus 7 to output only the top 1920x1080 (ignoring the permanent soft button bar)?
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Yes, there are ways. Unfortunately none of them's easy. One way is to change the screen resolution but that requires root. The other way is to add support for external display in a video player app. As of 4.2 app developers are able to detect and handle mutliple displays at once. So it's for instance possible to detect that external display is attached, discover what resolution it supports and output video to the external display at a native resolution. I am quite surprised that the native video player does not support that. It shoud work by default that way.
beandog said:
I have a nice 1080p projector I'd love to drive with the Nexus 7 over Slimport. Performance is great, but the picture has letterboxing on the left and right due to the 16:10 aspect ratio of the tablet. Is there any way to get the Nexus 7 to output only the top 1920x1080 (ignoring the permanent soft button bar)?
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Could you please tell me which slimport cabel you are using? is it SP10002? I am struggling to get a perfect one
I tried screenshots in Album; Video; & MX Player Pro using different codecs & 4K videos and all, but all came out in 1080p.
Not sure if it was supposed to be in 4K though.
So, how can we be sure that 4K content is being correctly?
Thanks.
The screen is 1080p by default, so if you take a screenshot, it will be a 1080p image displayed.
If there are sufficent pixels to push either in image or video format however, the device will push them up to 4K.
For example, if you find an image or video with at least 3840 × 2160 pixels, it will be shown in that resolution. View them via the Album, or Video apps (I'm not sure about third party apps).
If you do a Google image search for 4K wallpapers, you can try...
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
slayerz said:
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Android 5.1 Lollipop DOES NOT support 4K natively. The system can't therefore produce 4K screenshots, and thus 1080p. The reason why it's not 2k res on the screenshots like Galaxy Note 5 is because Sony chose that the system should run on 1080p and not 2K.
slayerz said:
Thanks @nobnut,
But I have tried a lot of 4K content yet, even photos viewed in the album should be displayed in 4K if I'm not mistaken.
It's just I'm not sure whether the 4K kicked in or not, and would like to be sure somehow; can't rely on eyes alone.
I tested screenshots in Album, Video displaying 4K content, they all end up in 1080p.
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Doh!
That's the problem. You are taking a screenshot in 4K mode... the screenshot is not taken in 4K resolution however, it is a 1080 screenshot, so it will obviously show as 1080.
You just have to take it on trust that 4K content is screened in 4K. You convert it back to 1080 when you take a screenshot of it though
@KbaB.BroS Thanks, I was reading about that limitation yesterday. Guess I'll need to wait for Android M! @nobnut I'm specially concerned about custom roms breaking the 4K functionality! Can't really trust 'em!
P.S.
I'm running RomAur btw, it's superb, except for some random reboots.
There's a kernel which restores DRM-tied functions as well, for unlocked bootloaders.
Your eyes may not be able to tell the difference. Basically, in album app, when you open an image, it'll be 1080p and after about 1-3 seconds, it'll crossfade into 4K. It's easier to spot with small text and on eyes.
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Your eyes may not be able to tell the difference. Basically, in album app, when you open an image, it'll be 1080p and after about 1-3 seconds, it'll crossfade into 4K. It's easier to spot with small text and on eyes.
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@CLShortFuse There is no 'crossfade' with Image Enhancements off, at least on my end. Can't be sure if it's because of the switch.
slayerz said:
@CLShortFuse There is no 'crossfade' with Image Enhancements off, at least on my end. Can't be sure if it's because of the switch.
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. With or without X-Reality, you should see a change. Take a look at the sample photos by Yu Takae. The text on the bottom right should look clearer after a few seconds when 4K kicks in. When you swipe to change picture, it renders are 1080p. After a few seconds you should see things clearer.
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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. With or without X-Reality, you should see a change. Take a look at the sample photos by Yu Takae. The text on the bottom right should look clearer after a few seconds when 4K kicks in. When you swipe to change picture, it renders are 1080p. After a few seconds you should see things clearer.
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I don't think the difference is FHD -> 4K transition, because you can clearly see the text even on a standard 1080p screen. I think the phone loads a light preview (the one used in the gallery?) and after that it loads the full image. It can be for being fast when you scroll pics. I made some tests with my old Z3 and default pictures of the Z5p.
And, btw, if you swipe between pictures it always reload like that. But if I'm in gallery it should be 4K always, no need to change the res.
Not as clear as when it switches to 4K. You don't need a second phone to test, just use another image app like Google Photos.
Take a look at this:
https://youtu.be/kEMmKu4tYWI
Skip to 2minutes in.
The way you know if 4k videos are working is to press play on the 4k video then 'pinch zoom' once and you'll see the quality (you can do this with any videos anyways)
Also the 4k logo in album in the bottom corner means the video is 4k. And the battery will drain more playing a 4k video then a normal 360p 540p 720p and 1080p video (because 4k bit rate is higher - hence more processing)
SocketMix said:
The way you know if 4k videos are working is to press play on the 4k video then 'pinch zoom' once and you'll see the quality (you can do this with any videos anyways)
Also the 4k logo in album in the bottom corner means the video is 4k. And the battery will drain more playing a 4k video then a normal 360p 540p 720p and 1080p video (because 4k bit rate is higher - hence more processing)
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But even in Lollipop is possible to watch videos in 4K?
I cant get Netflix app to play videos with higher resolution than 720p and 30 FPS. The S9 has hardware capability to show 1440p and 60FPS, but Netflix seems to limit this to low resolution.
Any fix for this?
I have tried it on out superfast Wi-Fi and superfast LTE, no difference.
You can check this with Netflix own "Test Pattern" videos. Actual FPS and Resolution is shown in upper right corner when you zoom out to original video size.
corb06 said:
I cant get Netflix app to play videos with higher resolution than 720p and 30 FPS. The S9 has hardware capability to show 1440p and 60FPS, but Netflix seems to limit this to low resolution.
Any fix for this?
I have tried it on out superfast Wi-Fi and superfast LTE, no difference.
You can check this with Netflix own "Test Pattern" videos. Actual FPS and Resolution is shown in upper right corner when you zoom out to original video size.
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If you are rooted then that is the reason
EmRav said:
If you are rooted then that is the reason
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No root. Actually have the same problem on my Tab S4.
But we get full 4K and 60 FPS on our Samsung TV built in app, and also our Nvidia Shield TV.
corb06 said:
I cant get Netflix app to play videos with higher resolution than 720p and 30 FPS. The S9 has hardware capability to show 1440p and 60FPS, but Netflix seems to limit this to low resolution.
Any fix for this?
I have tried it on out superfast Wi-Fi and superfast LTE, no difference.
You can check this with Netflix own "Test Pattern" videos. Actual FPS and Resolution is shown in upper right corner when you zoom out to original video size.
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I believe resolution is limited by your Netflix subscription, if you only paid for 720p then that's the max res you can watch with
kyooohei08 said:
I believe resolution is limited by your Netflix subscription, if you only paid for 720p then that's the max res you can watch with
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Nah we have ultra 4K subscription. Running smoothly 60 FPS and 4K on our Samsung Q-Led tv and on our Nvidia Shield TV player.
corb06 said:
Nah we have ultra 4K subscription. Running smoothly 60 FPS and 4K on our Samsung Q-Led tv and on our Nvidia Shield TV player.
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App limitation apparently, this one might get you 1080p
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netflix-inc/netflix/netflix-5-3-1-build-19296-release/
all versions up to 5.3.1 operate at 1080p and a bitrate of 5800kbps which is the highest quality possible on smartphones.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/8gz2e9/netflixs_android_app_maxes_out_at_720p_only/
*Detection* said:
App limitation apparently, this one might get you 1080p
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netflix-inc/netflix/netflix-5-3-1-build-19296-release/
all versions up to 5.3.1 operate at 1080p and a bitrate of 5800kbps which is the highest quality possible on smartphones.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/8gz2e9/netflixs_android_app_maxes_out_at_720p_only/
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I tested this method today, it works! So it is indeed app limitation NOT subscription. Tested it on my s9 and girfriends s9+, both worked. However, getting to 720p resolution on the newer versions is much faster than getting to 720p or 1080p on this older version. So maybe locking to 720p is the effect of some network and streaming optimizations.
Had to go older to get mine working
zimonyini said:
I tested this method today, it works!
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I tried 5.3.1 but it immediately prompted me to update to continue. So I used 4.12.2 and my content was watchable again. I’m on an S9 with Pie.
Netflix 4.12.2 from ApkMirror
So one thing that I understood from the launch live is that google has collabbed with Snapchat to bring full implementation of HDR within the app.
My biggest doubt is.. will it also fully integrate with all the other social network apps or not? I mean apps like TikTok, Instagram and most of all, Whatsapp..
What makes an android phone so bad for socials is that they totally cripple camera performance once you use a third party camera app. On the other end iPhone's do it perfectly. If only the Pixel filled this gap, it would be a no brainer choosing Android over iOS..!
I currently have a Pixel 3 XL and every time I use the camera to take photos in Whatsapp or videos in tiktok, its utterly ugly, it looks like the pic was taken from a Galaxy s4.
I'm still not so sure if we even have "true" HDR10 (or better, like Dolby Vision on Iphone 13Max) on the Pixel. Did anyone actually try to look at picture/videofootage at a HDR capable monitor/TV and did HDR kick in?
As far as I know, it's all some fake-ass SDR vivid-algorithm BS.
Morgrain said:
I'm still not so sure if we even have "true" HDR10 (or better, like Dolby Vision on Iphone 13Max) on the Pixel. Did anyone actually try to look at picture/videofootage at a HDR capable monitor/TV and did HDR kick in?
As far as I know, it's all some fake-ass SDR vivid-algorithm BS.
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I used HDR Display Check
plasticarmyman said:
I used HDR Display Check
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I wasn't talking about the Panel. All Pixels have HDR10 Display capabilities, I was talking about the camera.
Morgrain said:
I wasn't talking about the Panel. All Pixels have HDR10 Display capabilities, I was talking about the camera.
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ah fair enough, i need more coffee i guess
Morgrain said:
I wasn't talking about the Panel. All Pixels have HDR10 Display capabilities, I was talking about the camera.
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how would I potentially test this?
plasticarmyman said:
how would I potentially test this?
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I guess we/you'd have to transfer footage of your phone (video/photos) to a HDR capable device (like an LG CX or something like that) and see if HDR kicks in. It's also possible to detect this with Windows tools like MediaInfo. If the video is recorded with HDR it will have a color space of BT. 2020 also know as REC.2020.
Even though it's kinda tricky to determine if it really is shot in 10bit. There is a differenec between color depth and color space, meaning a video can be shot in 8bit and can still output a HDR signal, even though it lacks all basic features that HDR should offer. This whole HDR story is a joke at this point, it's basically broken in Windows, the whole industry is split in several factions (HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision...), there is almost no cross-compatibility and then you can't even trust the output of a file, as explained earlier.
It sucks, and it sucks hard. I - for example - tried to get Mass Effect: Andromeda working with Windows 11 (Dolby Vision) and stopped after about 9 hours of troubleshooting because of Black Screen problems, rainbow color issues, crashs, forced restarts because the Windows UI crashed/became invisible...
HDR is just a mess. It only works well if you put a streaming device directly into an HDR capable Television and use Apps like Disney+, Netflix, HBO MAX or something like that.
It's a shame, because footage shot in true HDR look simply stunning.
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I guess we/you'd have to transfer footage of your phone (video/photos) to an HDR capable device (like an LG CX or something like that) and see if HDR kicks in. It's also possible to detect this with Windows tools like MediaInfo. If the video is recorded with HDR it will have a color space of BT. 2020 also know as REC.2020.
Even though it's kinda tricky to determine if it really is shot in 10bit. There is a differenec between color depth and color space, meaning a video can be shot in 8bit and can still output a HDR signal, even though it lacks all basic features that HDR should offer. This whole HDR story is a joke at this point, it's basically broken in Windows, the whole industry is split in several factions (HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision...), there is almost no cross-compatibility and then you can't even trust the output of a file, as explained earlier.
It sucks, and it sucks hard. I - for example - tried to get Mass Effect: Andromeda working with Windows 11 (Dolby Vision) and stopped after about 9 hours of troubleshooting because of Black Screen problems, rainbow color issues, crashs, forced restarts because the Windows UI crashed/became invisible...
HDR is just a mess. It only works well if you put a streaming device directly into an HDR capable Television and use Apps like Disney+, Netflix, HBO MAX or something like that.
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i'm getting ColorSpace YUV with video and pictures, even when using Open Camera with HDR enabled.
I haven't had any issues in Windows with my second Monitor that has HDR capabilities....but there are times when I turn it off because it doesn't look the best in some games.
Mass Effect Legendary Edition was having wash out issues on my pc until I turned it off
I noticed a problem when watching Youtube videos. For example this video
I can watch that video just fine on a Poco x3 pro (also SD 860 and 120hz), but on the Pad 5 there is a problem. I don't see anything until 10 nits in the video. I also cranked up the brightness to the max. On my mobile I can see something much earlier - with normal brightness.
Does anybody have an idea what the problem could be?
Mine starts from 1 nit onwards, if I enable screen balance app 0.5 nit. Tbh I hate the screen. This device is called 'media consumption'. I can't enjoy a movie when blacks are absent
I am regretting my decision tbh. Should have bought a basic oled device.
I just realized that when I use Newpipe instead I can see the colored boxes from 0.2 nits onwards. So it is not necessarily a screen issue?
I am wondering what could be the difference between Newpipe and Youtube?
Could also be youtubes own codec for videos. However, the ips panel used on mi pad 5 lacks any depth or contrast. checked couple of reviews. One says contrast is 1300:1 the other says 550:1 . What I can tell is, I am not gonna watch a movie on this tablet.
I was reading someone today saying that YouTube only displays HDR with the AV1 codec.
No idea if true or not
With max brightness after 2 nit , in normal brightness after 3 nits
Thanks for your answers and testing!
I guess, there is indeed something broken in the Xiaomi Pad 5. I noticed that the display problem only happens when you play HDR movies. The Netflix movie quality is good in my case. but only because my plan does not include HDR apparently. HDR movies look ok with Newpipe, because Newpipe does not support HDR ...
HDR is basically broken on all Pad 5 tablets. Wow!
Atheosun said:
I was reading someone today saying that YouTube only displays HDR with the AV1 codec.
No idea if true or not
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Seems to be multiple Codecs for hdr.
Well I am stuck w this tablet. Have to find a way to enjoy it, somehow
Thank you for the added information @parser
What application is that? Very cool the way it displays all formats available
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Thank you for the added information @parser
What application is that? Very cool the way it displays all formats available
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My pleasure,
This is an app called smart tube next. Just Google it. Devs name is yuliskov. It has a github page.
Even though I have youtube premium, I use his YouTube app on my firetv.
Ah yes, i hear it is a superb application.
I too pay for Youtube Premium, but will load it up on my Shield TV as Shield users mention how good it is, all the time.
Thank you! @parser