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No case, no screen protector..but

I am one of those who likes the phone as is.
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
BUT
2 days on the TGV's across France and Switzerland and boy was I cursing; the bloody phone slid everywhere ... so it made me think.
Got home and stuck 2 of those clear rubber/plastic kitchen cupboard door dome bumpers (Magnet for those in the UK) on the corners by the camera, and voila you have a non-slide phone and protects the lens at the same time.
Works for me, also helps the grip as your fingers go between the domes.
Each to their own. Hope its helps some.

major c said:
I am one of those who likes the phone as is.
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
BUT
2 days on the TGV's across France and Switzerland and boy was I cursing; the bloody phone slid everywhere ... so it made me think.
Got home and stuck 2 of those clear rubber/plastic kitchen cupboard door dome bumpers (Magnet for those in the UK) on the corners by the camera, and voila you have a non-slide phone and protects the lens at the same time.
Works for me, also helps the grip as your fingers go between the domes.
Each to their own. Hope its helps some.
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I also hate casing, but... I hate scratches and dents more.

I've found mine is getting scratched on the 'bump' below the samsung logo. Stupid bit of design that put the most scratchable plastic on the entire phone on the only surface that touches the table.
I like mine au naturel too but it looks like we've no choice but to use a skin or case if you don't like scratches.
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That "bump" actually stops the camera lens from getting scratched when place on a flat surface.. dunno why they didnt recess the lens though... or better still stick a lens cover on it!!
Im a case fan personally, yeah I love the look of the phone, but I want it to stay that way.. so Ill wrap it up! makes for good resale value near end of contract!

I stuck a strip of clear sellotape across the hump, prevents scratches until something better pops up

The sellotape works wonders!

I don't care scratches but the reason why I use case is the camera lens because it can be easily scratched and will take worst photo
.:SiLvErHuNk:.

I have a case an cheap one i bought on eBay and it works fine but ive ordered another one and am going to buy a screen protector - SGP Ultra Oleophobic Film which appears to be the best available, when you've spent €450 on a phone the last thing you want is for it to be scratched

major c said:
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
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Holy cow. Who said Gorilla Glass won't scratch? Jeez. Of course a good screen protector is recommended and also a good case which will protect the device if it drops accidentally.
Regards.

I have got a visible scratch right between the camera lens and the flash....missed both of them...Phew!!!...
so now I have a case always fitted, SP and also a cut out SP for the lens...

Like buttered toast...

...my naked N5 slipped from my cold, numb fingers and landed flat but face down on a NYC sidewalk a couple days ago. At first it looked like a "soft landing" but no such luck and now I'm looking at a screen replacement (screen itself OK, but glass cracked all to hell).
So now I'm wondering if this could have been prevented simply by a case and not necessarily a screen protector as well. I've used cases such as an Otterbox Commuter in the past but never dropped any of those phones to the extent this one went down. It seems to me that any case with a slight lip on the front -- as most of them must have -- would be enough since the screen itself would not hit the ground.
From research on this forum and web sites I'm currently favoring the Spigen Thin Armor case but am wondering if a high-quality screen protector would also be worth it. My screen at the time it was damaged really had no scratches at all, so the Gorilla Glass was doing its job. Would one of those tempered glass protectors also provide shatter protection? Or would a decent case by itself be sufficient?
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.

Even with a case on, if there was a small rock or a jagged edge on the ground that nicks the screen, it would have still been toast anyway. This is regardless of if there was a lip protecting it or not. It all depends on what's on the ground by chance.
A tempered glass protector probably could have saved the screen though, since you said it landed flat on its face. Tempered glass protectors are perfect for impacts that land face down, not so much on edges or sides. You will see most demonstrations of tempered glass done with nails, hammers, drop tests, etc. with the phone being impacted directly on the face. If it impacts from the side, there is a good chance the screen could still break as tempered glass isn't really designed to protect from those types of impacts.
That is where the case with a lip comes in. Those are meant to protect from side and edge impacts. Most drops generally don't land flat like yours, they tend to bounce around on corners first, so the case would absorb most of the impact and not the phone directly.
Your best bet is to both have a tempered glass screen protector (for flat impacts), and a bumper frame or TPU case (for the rest).
I use a Nillkin H+ Tempered Glass screen protector and a bumper frame (back not covered as I put a skin on the back) and I'm pretty much covered for most brain lapse moments.

rochrunner said:
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
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Once you learn the hinge method for putting on screen protectors, you won't have air bubbles or dust underneath. You can't even tell my phone has a screen protector on it. Youtube has several videos on how to do it properly.
I refuse to pay big $$$ for glass protectors because you only get one of them, and you either do it right, or throw it away. With plastic protectors, you get several for a few dollars.

wolfen69 said:
I refuse to pay big $$$ for glass protectors because you only get one of them, and you either do it right, or throw it away. With plastic protectors, you get several for a few dollars.
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That's not true. I applied and removed my Nillkin more then 10 times during the application to get rid of the dust I missed trapped underneath because I suck at applying screen protectors. It reapplied the same every time. All you have to do is make sure you don't firmly press it down and you're fine. This is even after you see the adhesion process occur. It will still peel up. The adhesive takes a few hours to a day (depending on brand) to fully stick/cure.
If a person like me can apply one glass screen protector, anyone else will do it better. One is all you need.
Plastic will only give basic scratch protection and leave a greasy screen after a while. If it takes the same fall his did, the screen would still be done for.

mmmmBACON said:
I use a Nillkin H+ Tempered Glass screen protector and a bumper frame (back not covered as I put a skin on the back) and I'm pretty much covered for most brain lapse moments.
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What bumper frame do you use? I've been looking for one myself for a while now...
Cases protect the actual body of the phone, and maybe the screen if it happens to land flat. But if a rock of some other elevated object hits the screen then it will be done for. And a plastic screen protector will do nothing, that protects against scratches like from sand. A glass one would be the best bet for shatter protection. I've seen a person take a hammer to a screen with a glass screen protector on. The protector was rekt but the phone screen was fine.

Awesomepie85 said:
What bumper frame do you use? I've been looking for one myself for a while now...
Cases protect the actual body of the phone, and maybe the screen if it happens to land flat. But if a rock of some other elevated object hits the screen then it will be done for. And a plastic screen protector will do nothing, that protects against scratches like from sand. A glass one would be the best bet for shatter protection. I've seen a person take a hammer to a screen with a glass screen protector on. The protector was rekt but the phone screen was fine.
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There are 2 that I would probably recommend. I'm currently using a transparent bumper case off of ebay. I did a review here http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/lucency-transparent-bumper-case-review-t2690108. It is $2.88 shipped. If you do choose this one, I would stick to black. After using them for a while now, the various colours tend to stain easily, but the black doesn't. It is just for light drop protection, but since the main body is a harder plastic, it won't absorb a higher drop like a softer bumper frame, or a TPU case would. I personally like it because it is transparent and you can still see the sides of the phone and the skin through it.
The other is the replica Nexus 4 bumper, for the Nexus 5. Mine is still in the mail so I haven't tried it out yet, but others have bought it and it seems to have gotten pretty good reviews overall. http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/replica-official-nexus-4-bumper-nexus-5-t2698422. It's a little bit pricier at $12.99 off Amazon, or around $8 - $10 off Aliexpress.

rochrunner said:
...my naked N5 slipped from my cold, numb fingers and landed flat but face down on a NYC sidewalk a couple days ago. At first it looked like a "soft landing" but no such luck and now I'm looking at a screen replacement (screen itself OK, but glass cracked all to hell).
So now I'm wondering if this could have been prevented simply by a case and not necessarily a screen protector as well. I've used cases such as an Otterbox Commuter in the past but never dropped any of those phones to the extent this one went down. It seems to me that any case with a slight lip on the front -- as most of them must have -- would be enough since the screen itself would not hit the ground.
From research on this forum and web sites I'm currently favoring the Spigen Thin Armor case but am wondering if a high-quality screen protector would also be worth it. My screen at the time it was damaged really had no scratches at all, so the Gorilla Glass was doing its job. Would one of those tempered glass protectors also provide shatter protection? Or would a decent case by itself be sufficient?
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
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There are many choices for thicker protection cases. Properly applied screen protectors don't have any bubbles.
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Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .

Claghorn said:
Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
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Those sly people at Honda have already done it.

Claghorn said:
Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
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I don't think I'd feel comfortable having that in my side pocket close to my family jewels or especially not in my back pocket.
BCSC said:
Those sly people at Honda have already done it.
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Tempered Glass screen protectors; Recommended ones?

So I've been looking for a tempered glass screen protector for my Moto X, and I'm not sure which to get, the MIME or i-Blason. So I figured that I would ask the community what they recommend.

nachtdraegan said:
So I've been looking for a tempered glass screen protector for my Moto X, and I'm not sure which to get, the MIME or i-Blason. So I figured that I would ask the community what they recommend.
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Between the two, i-Blason. It fits much better than the mime

I have the MIME, can't say as I'm super impressed with it. I'm considering switching to the iBlason just because it's thinner. I feel like the MIME is interfering with the touch sensitivity and causing me to have to press harder than I should. Plus it's just ever so slightly too low and the curved edge interferes with the front facing camera causing a slight distortion at the top of the image. I could move it, but that's where it sits centered.

I had MIME, dropped my MotoX couple of times, MIME did it's job and protected the screen. Unfortunately it chipped and then it started to break really quickly. Don't get me wrong I don't complain about this, it's glass it breaks when dropped on concrete, but it's $25 (+ shipping, I live outside US), and spending this kind of money every month is something I would like to avoid, so I bought some cheep Chinese one on eBay for less than $10. And besides that MIME has nice curved edges, I really don't see the difference...

I had the MIME on my X and while I liked it the sensitivity in the Nav bar area wasn't always good if the phone was say laying on a desk. That being said the MIME on my wifes X is perfect. I just removed my MIME and installed the Mocolo glass screen protector, install was as simple as the MIME and I even had to realign it slightly so peeling it off and putting it back on wasn't a problem. I now have No issues at the Nav bar area so I'm very happy with the Mocolo. http://glass4m.com/products/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-moto-x-g
Just to add, the order to shipped to my door process was 6 days from China to NJ, very impressed.

I-Blason is the best fit out of all the available tempered glass screen protectors.

I-BLASON is the best fit size for moto x. But the glass cover Distance Sensor also.
Maybe have below problem:
Take a call, phone will auto screen off and can not make it on until end of this call.
Power key also can not use while calling.
Any one who have Iblason to check it have this problem or not?

FSRBIKER said:
I had the MIME on my X and while I liked it the sensitivity in the Nav bar area wasn't always good if the phone was say laying on a desk. That being said the MIME on my wifes X is perfect. I just removed my MIME and installed the Mocolo glass screen protector, install was as simple as the MIME and I even had to realign it slightly so peeling it off and putting it back on wasn't a problem. I now have No issues at the Nav bar area so I'm very happy with the Mocolo. http://glass4m.com/products/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-moto-x-g
Just to add, the order to shipped to my door process was 6 days from China to NJ, very impressed.
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I'm curious what (if any) case you are using.
I'm considering getting one of these, but I'm concerned about the fit inside a hard case. The hard cases are already a VERY tight fit, and I'm wondering if it can even be snapped on with the extra 0.33mm that the Mocolo adds to the thickness.
Can anyone advise?

samwathegreat said:
I'm curious what (if any) case you are using.
I'm considering getting one of these, but I'm concerned about the fit inside a hard case. The hard cases are already a VERY tight fit, and I'm wondering if it can even be snapped on with the extra 0.33mm that the Mocolo adds to the thickness.
Can anyone advise?
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I have a seidio surface case and an i-blason glass screen protector (ordered from amazon). Long story short the case does not overlap with the tempered glass protector that I got. Although mounting the tempered glass protector is best done with the case already on the device.Top to bottom the case and screen protector is a VERY tight fit (but it does barely fit)!
What confuses me though is people above are saying the i-blason protector covers the proximity sensor, mine doesn't, so I am a bit puzzled...

muiriddin said:
I have a seidio surface case and an i-blason glass screen protector (ordered from amazon). Long story short the case does not overlap with the tempered glass protector that I got. Although mounting the tempered glass protector is best done with the case already on the device.Top to bottom the case and screen protector is a VERY tight fit (but it does barely fit)!
What confuses me though is people above are saying the i-blason protector covers the proximity sensor, mine doesn't, so I am a bit puzzled...
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From what I understand, it used to, but they fixed it a long time ago.
I have the i-blason, was very careful with installation, used the "hinge" method, went on fine, been over a month with no issues, I use a minimal case, so no issue with it. I still "baby" it, the protector is more so that in case, I'll say "lucky I had a protector on it"

muiriddin said:
What confuses me though is people above are saying the i-blason protector covers the proximity sensor, mine doesn't, so I am a bit puzzled...
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The difference between version 1 and 2.

I have the mime, and coming from the Zagg glass on my Galaxy S5 which was absolutely amazing, it is just as good. The fit is extremely tight though, you need to be spot on for installation. I have only given it a day though so I'll see if it stands the test of time.

speciala106 said:
I have the mime, and coming from the Zagg glass on my Galaxy S5 which was absolutely amazing, it is just as good. The fit is extremely tight though, you need to be spot on for installation. I have only given it a day though so I'll see if it stands the test of time.
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Ok so the Ghost Glass only lasted about 2 weeks before it started to chip in the sides from just daily use. Then it shattered when I went to remove it. Customer service responded in less than an hour with a free replacement coupon. So A+ for customer service but the product kindof sucked. Using it was great but as soon as there is one fault the whole thing is junk, something that my Zagg Glass didnt have an issue with. The Zagg cracked but still went on without an issue for 2 months, and even upon removal it stayed in one solid piece.
I will try the replacement for a while and then go to iBlason if there is any issues.

I have the motocolo. The touch screen is good, but the sensivity not realy realy.

Love my iblason, it started getting spiderweb cracks after several months of use, but I was able to transfer the cracked one to my replacement moto x while I work on getting a replacement iblason. No luck emailing them, I have to fill out the warranty form on the site now

Iblason have 2 version? I see many problems with proximity sensor?
Thanks

So any updates on the glass protectors you guys are using?
I've had my MIME for over a year and it's starting to chip and crack after dropping it. I'm not sure if I want to get another one cause I had a lot of difficulty putting it on precisely so as to not have bubble edges.

I have the Mocolo Glass Screen Protector. This Glass fits very nice on the Moto X.

rupro327 said:
I have the Mocolo Glass Screen Protector. This Glass fits very nice on the Moto X.
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I had motocola but I find the sensitivity of the touch worse so I gave classic screen protector.

I haven't tried all the glass screen protectors, but I bought the monoy and I love it. The best part about it is the edges are curved so your finger just flows over the sides and it feels great.

[Q] Tempered glass

I want to use my phone without any case. I'm not afraid of scratches, but I'm afraid of screen cracking if I drop my phone. So my question is: if I use tempered glass, will it protect my screen from cracking? Or they will both be cracked? And I also want that glass is the thinnest. So I was thinking about getting 0.15 mm tempered glass. Is it different from 0.3mm or 0.4mm in term of protection, or does only the hardness matter?
Thank you for your reply.

I've dropped mine many many times onto wood and concrete without a screen protector. The phone is a little chipped and scratched, but the screen is absolutely fine.
A nilkin tempered glass screen protector is a good investment as it feels brilliant although when I dropped mine with that on it smashed the corner of the protector.
The edges of the phone are slightly raised so without the screen protector on, a drop onto a flat surface will not damage the screen but will damage the screen protector.
A drop onto a raised surface like a stone would probably break the screen protector but don't know if it'd also damage the screen.
Question is, how often do you drop your phone, and how much do you want to spend on glass protectors?

HtcOneJon said:
I've dropped mine many many times onto wood and concrete without a screen protector. The phone is a little chipped and scratched, but the screen is absolutely fine.
A nilkin tempered glass screen protector is a good investment as it feels brilliant although when I dropped mine with that on it smashed the corner of the protector.
The edges of the phone are slightly raised so without the screen protector on, a drop onto a flat surface will not damage the screen but will damage the screen protector.
A drop onto a raised surface like a stone would probably break the screen protector but don't know if it'd also damage the screen.
Question is, how often do you drop your phone, and how much do you want to spend on glass protectors?
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I was thinking about Nillkin, but I think it would be too thick. So I'm considering those 0.15 mm protectors in this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc...5mm-dot-view-friendly-tempered-glass-t2810825
I also thought about xtremeguard, since I use their normal protectors and they are great. It 50$, but with 85% off coupon it's just a few bucks. Only problem is that it's 0.4mm.
Which one would you recommend? I'm planning to spend 10-15$, because 40-50$ is really to much for a protector, in my opinion.

This is the one I use:
ZeroLemon® Ultra Glass Armor - 9H Premium Tempered Glass Screen Protector for HTC One M8

Oditius said:
This is the one I use:
ZeroLemon® Ultra Glass Armor - 9H Premium Tempered Glass Screen Protector for HTC One M8
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Is it noticable a lot while it's on the phone, since it's 0.3mm?

HTC_One_M8_91 said:
Is it noticable a lot while it's on the phone, since it's 0.3mm?
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If your looking for it, but after putting on, I haven't paid much attention to it. I dropped my phone once, chipped away at the edges of the shield. The seller replaced it free. I like tempered glass, it is the only screen proctor I will put on my phones. The only bad thing is that it goes edge to edge with the glass. So if you have a case that touches the screen, that might cause a problem. I use a thin clear cars I got off ebay. Works for me.
Ultra 0.5mm Slim TPU Skin Clear new Case Transparent Cover

Oditius said:
If your looking for it, but after putting on, I haven't paid much attention to it. I dropped my phone once, chipped away at the edges of the shield. The seller replaced it free. I like tempered glass, it is the only screen proctor I will put on my phones. The only bad thing is that it goes edge to edge with the glass. So if you have a case that touches the screen, that might cause a problem. I use a thin clear cars I got off ebay. Works for me.
Ultra 0.5mm Slim TPU Skin Clear new Case Transparent Cover
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The only annoying thing could be top edge, when I pull down notification bar.
Case wouldn't be a problem, because I'm planning to use phone without case, and that why I'm looking for a tempered glass, to protect screen from cracking.

HTC_One_M8_91 said:
The only annoying thing could be top edge, when I pull down notification bar.
Case wouldn't be a problem, because I'm planning to use phone without case, and that why I'm looking for a tempered glass, to protect screen from cracking.
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Actually then it could be a benefit, because going edge to edge means you will probably not touch the edge. And the edge is not sharp, nice and smooth. The price is cheap enough to try it. I have tried several over the last few months, mostly from China. But this is US born and works and feels great.

Question Which front glass screen Which front glass screen protector

From experience of using front screen glass protectors for the fold 3, which would you recommend for the fold 4?

Yes won't purchase from whitestone due to bad support they gave when trying to get support on screen protector and how rude they were. Even though I used to recommend them a lot before. But when needed. They failed. But that was my experience. Should be decent but haven't used them for more than a year since it happened. With the note 20 ultra release.
Spigen looks decent but haven't used their screen protectors as used AMfilm. But they don't seem to have for the fold. So still seeing on what to use. As well.
But seeing both would be about same warranty just depends on who handles it better.
The Spigen comes with guide to install it but whitestone comes with 2 at a cheaper price.
The good thing of these is not as the note series that they are $30 to $45 per pack.

The Spigen is so easy to install, plus I don't see the point of installing or replace the inner screen protector. We can get Samsung to do it for free? or cheaply after a year.

I went with the non liquid adhesive whitestone simply because i have it on my fold 3 and it works well. Plus the kit came with a film hinge protector as well.

this one. it involve soap water while applying. i dont know if we can apply the inside protector over and bove the stock one on inside screen
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B0B9YQF2LF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Installed the Whitestone last night with no issues. This one is not as easy as the Spigen since there is no lineup template but I like that I received 2 front screen protectors, a camera protector and an edge guard.

can we apply screen procetor above the factory one inside? last year the inside screen protector oleophobic coating got weared off and it was so hard to scroll. this time thinking of applying another one, so that i can change it every 5months or so

I applied the Spigen EZFit on my Fold4 today, came out perfect. They make a great product, been buying their stuff for years.

Recieved my fold 4 today
Immediately i put on spigen glass Tr
The front tempered glass is good
And doesn’t interfere with the case lips
But the hinge protector is not working as advertised.
The hinge protector from spigen is very thin already but after installing it, everytime i open or close the screen it will get caught up and peeled off on edges
Maybe the gap between the hinge and the screen is slimmer this time
So I don’t think we can put any protector on the hinge without interfering with the mechanism.
On my old flip 1 it was ok

I tried the Whitestone and it is smaller than the front screen?!?!?!? I should send it back!

Flame Red said:
I tried the Whitestone and it is smaller than the front screen?!?!?!? I should send it back!
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You kinda want a smaller screen protector because the case will take up the rest of the screen

Flame Red said:
I tried the Whitestone and it is smaller than the front screen?!?!?!? I should send it back!
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Yeah they all are, so cases don't lift it. I've put a Samsung one on now, not glass one.

10-Dee-Q said:
Recieved my fold 4 today
Immediately i put on spigen glass Tr
The front tempered glass is good
And doesn’t interfere with the case lips
But the hinge protector is not working as advertised.
The hinge protector from spigen is very thin already but after installing it, everytime i open or close the screen it will get caught up and peeled off on edges
Maybe the gap between the hinge and the screen is slimmer this time
So I don’t think we can put any protector on the hinge without interfering with the mechanism.
On my old flip 1 it was ok
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Yeah had the exact same thing, took it off, ordered full body skin instead

I also got the whitestone. I must say it perfectly covers the actual LCD part with about 2mm extra glass borders. The camera lense cutout is quite perfect as well, with the face unlock light ring lining up perfectly. I would certainly have preferred the glass to be taller and wider, but that's to prevent case interference as we know. Sometimes later in the cycle certain companies release their "edge to edge" screen protects, would want to see if any of them come up.
The included camera cover also fits quite perfectly, no have issues with the official Samsung case cutout.
The included hinge protector film I didn't try, not sure if it would mess with the mechanism to keep dust/grime out.
Overall for the price, I think it's pretty good.

Waiting for my Whitestone EZ glass screen protector to arrive. In the meantime, I already have a fairly deep scratch in the front glass. Ive babied this phone and have zero clue where it came from.