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I am using google pixel XL from last one week but already got bored with it. I bought Pixel after using many phones i.e Galaxy S7 edge, Redmi note 3 Pro, Nexus 5X, Lg G5 etc
I agree camera of Pixel is probably best but still very much comparable to previous Nexus 5X/6p. Galaxy s7 edge was faster to focus and was better in low light and for moving object whereas Pixel offer sharp and best still photography. I got bored because i miss certain features for example there is no real water proofing, no sd card, no miracast when much cheaper redmi note 3 can be connected to TV without any WIFI etc. Google want us to invest in chromecast that cannot even connect to mobile without WifI . samsung also offered sidesync which was great to connect mobile with laptop to watch media and use all application on PC.
I am confuse whether to stick with Pixel Xl or resell it. I will lose probably another 50 quid if decide to sell it. I got it cheaper for £308 by selling s7 edge for £270 but now i regret because i think google is charging way too much just for camera and software and is not actually all rounder to compete with features offer by others brand . How many of you are actually content with this phone ?
I had the explosive note, the new iPhone 7+ when it came out and the S7 Edge . The Google Pixel Camera is far the best and on top of that, the Pixel has not crashed once on me yet. The Samsung devices are bloated and laggy after a week yet my pixel stands in perfect condition and I had the worst experience with the iPhone got it replaced twice in 3 weeks and had crashes with bad battery life. I was worried about storage too and I got the 128 GB but all the photos I take get backed up and I still have 80GB+ left. Sure it's not water proof but how often do you swim with your phone? IF you need to take your phone in a dive you should get a water proof pouch anyways or it might just slip away. I have dropped it in water, in fact I took it on a jetski and water got in the pouch but the phone was fine. For the TV compatibility that really depends on you, I have wifi at home so I have no issues.
To sum it up you won't get the silky smooth performance like the pixel on another phone, the correct colors (Samsung saturation crap) and unlimited photo/vid storage. One of the key points was google photos for me since I take photos on a DSLR too and just transfer and upload.
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I had the explosive note, the new iPhone 7+ when it came out and the S7 Edge . The Google Pixel Camera is far the best and on top of that, the Pixel has not crashed once on me yet. The Samsung devices are bloated and laggy after a week yet my pixel stands in perfect condition and I had the worst experience with the iPhone got it replaced twice in 3 weeks and had crashes with bad battery life. I was worried about storage too and I got the 128 GB but all the photos I take get backed up and I still have 80GB+ left. Sure it's not water proof but how often do you swim with your phone? IF you need to take your phone in a dive you should get a water proof pouch anyways or it might just slip away. I have dropped it in water, in fact I took it on a jetski and water got in the pouch but the phone was fine. For the TV compatibility that really depends on you, I have wifi at home so I have no issues.
To sum it up you won't get the silky smooth performance like the pixel on another phone, the correct colors (Samsung saturation crap) and unlimited photo/vid storage. One of the key points was google photos for me since I take photos on a DSLR too and just transfer and upload.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I understand your smooth software experience with pixel . I actually never felt any lag with previous devices .. may be because i am not into gaming/heavy tasks and also rooted s7 edge and removed bloatware . I think touchwiz is getting better ..I was quiet happy with s7 edge except still photography as day lights photos was overexposed and that was the reason of purchasing Pixel . I thought it will support basic stuff like screen mirroring .. they have cast button but i guess it only support chromecast . Is there any way to connect mobile with Chromecast without Wifi. I mean i have unlimited internet on my phone and 30 gb can be used as hotspot? or if rooting and installing any custom ROm will support mira casting?
Secondly Is not google unlimited photo and videos only valid if you taken them with Pixel? Is not google free high quality already enough for 12 MP still photography? I honestly dont understand the hype about camera of Pixel when its exactly the same as those of nexus 5x/6P. I dont see the reason why someone who own 6p should upgrade to very expensive pixel XL. look at these same photo comparison which i have taken from old nexus 5x and pixel XL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/review/photo-quality-t3484842/page9
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I understand your smooth software experience with pixel . I actually never felt any lag with previous devices .. may be because i am not into gaming/heavy tasks and also rooted s7 edge and removed bloatware . I think touchwiz is getting better ..I was quiet happy with s7 edge except still photography as day lights photos was overexposed and that was the reason of purchasing Pixel . I thought it will support basic stuff like screen mirroring .. they have cast button but i guess it only support chromecast . Is there any way to connect mobile with Chromecast without Wifi. I mean i have unlimited internet on my phone and 30 gb can be used as hotspot? or if rooting and installing any custom ROm will support mira casting?
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I don't play games on my phone and i notice a lot of hiccups. They may seem small but can be very annoying when apps crash and your phone gets hot over stupid tiny things, there's also the s**t Samsung multitasking, i don't know if they've improved it but when I had it if you ran 3 apps and tried to switch back to the first one you it would restart it to conserve RAM. The software was horribly optimized and I have heard S8 followed it in the steps. I do enjoy Googles fast updates, I hated waiting months for carriers to give android updates. Aside from that I honestly don't know anything about Mira cast and I've never had issues with casting I've used my laptop to stream to my TV and I like having my phone strain free. Do you not have WiFi at home? Or do you feel limited to the apps for chrome cast? Every video streaming app that I have except Amazon Video has cast. You can use your laptop to stream personal videos on to it too and your phone. I don't know if you need an internet connection for that but you do need a WiFi setup. Also I'm so satisfied with my Pixel it's not even rooted so I wouldn't know any ROMs.
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Secondly Is not google unlimited photo and videos only valid if you taken them with Pixel? Is not google free high quality already enough for 12 MP still photography? I honestly dont understand the hype about camera of Pixel when its exactly the same as those of nexus 5x/6P. I dont see the reason why someone who own 6p should upgrade to very expensive pixel XL. look at these same photo comparison which i have taken from old nexus 5x and pixel XL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/review/photo-quality-t3484842/page9
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Those photos are very different I want you to look at the shadows, the cracks, the blur shown on smaller sharper objects. You'll notice a lot more depth or dynamic range. I'm not a professional photographer but an average person should notice it. I believe the photos compared are S7 and 6P? You have to realize the price difference between those 2 is quite a lot. Look up more Pixel and S7/S8 photo comparisons and you'll see the differences. One thing you should try out on the pixel is capturing video, try something drastic like a bumpy ride and record 4K and see the magical software do its thing. Lastly, all photos/videos uploaded from your Google Pixel are uploaded at original resolution and that's why I record everything in 4K and the USB adapter that came in box is awesome to transfer files and upload them from an external device.
These are some of the things I've noticed and you don't need to upgrade really, the 6P is quite quick still and if you want a cheaper phone with crazy performance try the One Plus. They're some of the craziest quickest phones ever.
Depends on how much you bought yours for, for me, I paid 67000 INR for it, and no, no phone is worth that money, not even Pixel. But being a Samsung user for the better part of my android life I am never gonna buy anything other than Stock android, so Pixel it is. Best camera, best software, what more do you need in a phone? **** all those gimmicky Samsung looks (though Pixel's bezels are huge and should be shrunken on next version) when paired with garbage software. Android still is not iOS in terms of optimisation, and bloated garbage laggy crappy skinned iterations just make it even worse.
Am I happy with mine? Yes. Completely? No. Why? Because my Pixel always had this random freezing issue (and I am on my fourth XL, all of them had it), and I absolutely hate that. With that issue being completely gone this is the best android phone I have ever used, even with the issue is.
If you plan to resell it then do it now when Pixel 2 is still more than two months away, otherwise stick with it for another year. What other phone is there which I might recommend instead? Nothing! Like I said, best camera, best software, I don't think there could be a more important combo to factor in, but Pixel's price should be around 500-600 USD or something. In any case over my dead body I am ever gonna go back to them Samsungs, or try some LG or something.
Good value for money note so sure, a great phone yes
Have others noticed random Animation jankiness (stutter) through the interface?? Such as going back to the home screen, opening up the recent apps, launching an app from the home screen, etc... . US note 10+ unlocked running the latest beta 3.
At some points it's as fluid as an iPhone but then randomly I will see frame drops when doing the same thing. Could be any app. If this is just a beta issue then I'm fine, but if it behaves the same way when the final comes out, I might just get another phone.
Isn't this a common thing with Samsung phones? I have this issue randomly on my Note 10+ as well, running Android Pie. Same on my S10+. I'm very sensitive to this type of stuff so I definitely notice it.
No, it is not common, I understand your concern, I see these stutters in some other devices, (old ones
that I keep as secondary o emergency ) but this typically happens due to low ram
yeah i still get some stutters, but its gotten better each beta release. oneui 2 is still leagues better than every other samsung phone in terms of animation smoothness though. Samsung lag is pretty much gone, but there has always been some stutter when going to recent apps or going home... but i think samsung is working hard on this, just so that the s11's 120hz screen won't have this issue.
I'm surprised you didn't get a new phone to begin with. samsung phones are known for the features/bloat. if you want smooth, get a pixel or oneplus or iphone.
I have the official Android 10 (One UI 2.0) on my S10+ and it is definitely not smooth as one would expect. Many instances of choppy animations, dropped frames, microstutter, and lag. I factory reset the phone as well to remove any variables and the same issues persist. My Note 10+ running Android Pie is noticeably more smooth than the S10+ on the newest firmware. Here is hoping the official release for the Note 10+ will be a bit better.
Yes that's the same for me,
Also, between LockScreen and Always On display, the animation it's just terrible, it lags very very often.
I've tried to install other launchers, and the opening and closing animation is MUCH more fluid instead of the default one.
I've tried with my Note10+, and the stable version of Android 10 for Note
This is a shame indeed, I was really hoping that Samsung would work hard to fix this issue ugh. Let's hope the final one UI 2 release fixes this issue. One ui , 1 or 2, was supposed to address the old touchwiz lag issues but apparently not. I did hey a chance to play with the new pixel devices and they were smooth as butter. I was so tempted to get them but the battery issues reported stopped me from doing that. I'm definitely getting the s11 plus so hopefully that will be a better device but we will see I guess.
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This is a shame indeed, I was really hoping that Samsung would work hard to fix this issue ugh. Let's hope the final one UI 2 release fixes this issue. One ui , 1 or 2, was supposed to address the old touchwiz lag issues but apparently not. I did hey a chance to play with the new pixel devices and they were smooth as butter. I was so tempted to get them but the battery issues reported stopped me from doing that. I'm definitely getting the s11 plus so hopefully that will be a better device but we will see I guess.
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lag hasn't really existed for years. animation stutter is a separate thing imo. But yeah if you want the smoothest of animations, get a pixel/oneplus or iphone. I can't imagine s11 being perfect even with 120hz screen... but maybe oneui 2.1 solves all the problems.
I had my Galaxy note 10+ updated to Android 10 with one ui 2.0 and the recent apps animation is really bad, has anyone found a solution, it's almost unbearable switching apps.
Thanks in advance,
try enabling performance mode. it sure helps a lot. by default the "optimised" option is on and it only runs with 70% of the cpu power. Also dark mode "hides the stutter" much better. . dark apps open and close with better transitions. Its not the best but it helps a lot in my opinion
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I had my Galaxy note 10+ updated to Android 10 with one ui 2.0 and the recent apps animation is really bad, has anyone found a solution, it's almost unbearable switching apps.
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Disable accessability services, that should help.
People tends to say the same thing every year, every update.
“Disable this, disable and solve the situations”.
I have a OnePlus 7 pro, no lag even with all enabled. Same for iPhone 11.
Disabling things won’t make animation or lags less frequent, will only improve ram and cpu usage a little.
I definitely see issues with the animation when returning to home screen, but it's not a performance issue per se. It's almost like there is a double animation, first the normal one, but then it snaps back to showing the current app before showing the home screen. It looks super fugly.
I made a quick video to demonstrate what I'm talking about: https://youtu.be/UQ37LMqo7jM
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WisdomWolf said:
I definitely see issues with the animation when returning to home screen, but it's not a performance issue per se. It's almost like there is a double animation, first the normal one, but then it snaps back to showing the current app before showing the home screen. It looks super fugly.
I made a quick video to demonstrate what I'm talking about:
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Looks like you are using custom launcher and your animation is known issue on Android 10 with custom launchers.
I have resolved this problem
I enable developer mode then I turned off all animations for the transactions and all these stuff and it works with me very fine
I got the official Android 10 update for my Note 10+ on Verizon a couple days ago and it's quite laggy. My OnePlus6T runs way smoother. This phone has been pretty laggy since I bought it last September. I hadn't tried a Samsung in 3 years until the Note 10+ but I guess they still haven't learned how to make a phone run smoothly (I should have known better than to believe flossy carter). I'm quite disappointed in this phone tbh. I had high hopes and talked myself into keeping it, but in hindsight, I should have returned it.
I might do a factory reset soon to see if that helps. Pretty sad a device that cost $1100 doesn't run any better than a midrange device. I've also noticed more battery drain. The battery was epic on Android 9, and though it's still ok on 10, it has noticeably got worse.
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I got the official Android 10 update for my Note 10+ on Verizon a couple days ago and it's quite laggy. My OnePlus6T runs way smoother. This phone has been pretty laggy since I bought it last September. I hadn't tried a Samsung in 3 years until the Note 10+ but I guess they still haven't learned how to make a phone run smoothly (I should have known better than to believe flossy carter). I'm quite disappointed in this phone tbh. I had high hopes and talked myself into keeping it, but in hindsight, I should have returned it.
I might do a factory reset soon to see if that helps. Pretty sad a device that cost $1100 doesn't run any better than a midrange device. I've also noticed more battery drain. The battery was epic on Android 9, and though it's still ok on 10, it has noticeably got worse.
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That $1000 phone have 1000 features, compare to 6T which is almost barebone stock Android. OnePlus UI base came from Cyanogen, very light system. OneUI is young UI in second version, future is bright
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The only accessibility service I have turned in is dashlane. Everything else is off.
For me, up to 4-5 apps there's no stutter in the animations, but after starting having more than 5 apps in the recent apps menu the lag starts and it gets worst with the increase of apps in recent apps menu.
Only Samsung to have this kind of thing in a flagship.
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The only accessibility service I have turned in is dashlane. Everything else is off.
For me, up to 4-5 apps there's no stutter in the animations, but after starting having more than 5 apps in the recent apps menu the lag starts and it gets worst with the increase of apps in recent apps menu.
Only Samsung to have this kind of thing in a flagship.
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Actually, the issue is exactly with Dashlane. After you stop it I guarantee you that the issue will be resolved.
Apps like Dashlane and Keepass, when enabled with accessibility option, are always working on the background and checking every screen for possible data breach. Once you disable it, you will be reborn and the phone will be smooth as butter.
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yeah i still get some stutters, but its gotten better each beta release. oneui 2 is still leagues better than every other samsung phone in terms of animation smoothness though. Samsung lag is pretty much gone, but there has always been some stutter when going to recent apps or going home... but i think samsung is working hard on this, just so that the s11's 120hz screen won't have this issue.
I'm surprised you didn't get a new phone to begin with. samsung phones are known for the features/bloat. if you want smooth, get a pixel or oneplus or iphone.
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If the 120hz screen is confirmed, then the stutters will be more noticeable. I don't really have them since i keep my phone pristine from bloat and take care of it as a baby, but I guess the random Samsung jaggyness can one day come back
There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
I have an unlocked note8 and bought the AT&T S20 plus.
For me, the answer is yes - it was worth it.
I debated a long time about the Ultra - I think both the plus and ultra models are wonderful.
"zoom" camera even on the regular S20 is objectively better than the Note8.
AprilAr said:
There seems to be a numver of issues with the S20, and nothing has really tempted me to upgrade aside from this phone.
My phone is becoming useless though. It's very slow, has a terrible screen response, and the battery is shot. This phone has disappointed me more than any other Note, and I don't even use the S pen often.
I'm not waiting on the Note 20, so would you upgrade to the S20 from the Note 8?
My husband and I are discussing the options for which one, I'm probably going with the ultra so I can have the camera, but we will never have 5G anywhere we live so that part is useless.
Does BK package disabler or a similar program work with this phone? I know never being able to root the Note 8 drove me nuts.
Thoughts?
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The Note20 will be better and faster than any S20 model.
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Upgraded from note 8 to S20
I myself upgraded from a Note 8 to an S20.
Mind you it is the S20 and not S20+ or ultra.
Both are exynos so my experience will be biased for exynos markets only.
1. Screen : Not much different in terms of screen quality but that refresh rate, IMO is the best thing for me as I can scroll endless pages of instagram and youtube and website scrolling is so amazing.
2. Camera : By far the biggest improvement from the Note 8 is the camera modules here.
I am not much into 8K gimmics but using the ultra wide, the Smooth 60 fps in both 4k and full hd are phenominal. Pictures come out very good.
3. Battery life : Using the 120hz leaves very little room for better battery life than the Note 8 but I am sure if in a pinch, dropping the screen refresh rate to 60 will easily give me a couple extra hours. So it will be good for those long road trips.
4. The best part , THE SMALL SIZE : Well, not really a small size at 6.2 inches. However, it is a huge difference between the huge note and this little handy yet powerful phone. The note 8 is roughly the size of s20+ and beleive me the note feels cluncky as hell now that I am used to the size of s20.
5. App opening speeds and basic day to day performance is far superior to that note.
Note: You may feel like the s20 heats up like crazy if used in continuation a lot or if some high end game is played for long, well I faced that problem a lot and I have already opened a thread in the discussion sections to talk with other owners about the problem. I found out that restoring from my note 8 using samsung switch was the biggest mistake I could do. I then cleaned the phone by doing a factory reset and set it up as a new device and I must say, I could not be any happier.
I would say go for the S20. You will not regret it.:fingers-crossed:
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So it looks like this might be my next phone but I have a few questions
1. Is it still worth it to have my samsung galaxy watch 4? I know there are a few features that you lose if you dont have a samsung device like ECG and body measurement features.
2. Is it going to be better to get the pro instead of waiting til next year to get the s21 ultra because I was thinking about that as well since the price might come down.
1. Yes keep it, you loose very little with this (if anything). You can enable blood pressure and ECG with this (currently running it on OnePlus 8Pro and it works without issues):
How to enable ECG and Blood Pressure features on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
Here's how you can enable ECG and blood pressure monitoring on your Galaxy Watch 4 in all regions, even with non-Samsung phones.
www.xda-developers.com
So just some fiddling around, but you only need to do this once and you're set to go.
2. No one can tell you what is better for you but I can share how I decided to return to Google.
The most important phone feature for me always been smoothness. Long time ago I switched from Nexus 5 to Samsung Note 4. It was supposed to be a step up with the newer processor, but Sammy let me down big time.
I was shook by how much smoother the Nexus was. I was chasing for a better performance for Note 4, so I tried rooting, custom roms etc., but without luck. Nexus 5 was simply much better in that regard.
What I learned about Google phones in the long run:
I was used to getting a poorer and poorer performance from Samsung as the phone aged. With Nexus and Pixels it was always the other way around. In my experience Google phones were not that great when they got released, but in months, with help of updates, they started flying.
I loved the community support around these devices. What most called 'a plain' version of Android, happened to be as rich in functionality as I would want them to be (with help of rooting and some neat apps). Also, Google phones had the reputation of being a compromise choice. E.g. with Pixel 2 people didn't like the screen. Meanwhile I absolutely adored it because I knew there were tools that allowed you to adjust display as you like. If not the community, I would've never learned about this though.
Reviews never called full justice over these devices for some reason. I was rarely finding a review that would justify my experiences with Google phones. It felt like the reviewers were playing around with them for a couple of weeks and then putting them back to the drawer. A Nexus/Pixel in early days without rooting for me seemed like a waste (things have changed now days, I don't see a reason for rooting anymore).
I split ways with Pixel after 2XL. Although it was a really amazing phone, Pixels 3 and 4 didn't seem attractive for me with the price.
I went to OnePlus with 7 PRO which was offering a clean enough OS, smooth performance and insane screen. Really amazing phone.
8 PRO is still ok, but it never felt like a step forwards from 7 PRO (except from camera). Software updates got very slow, i'm not even sure if 8 is supported anymore, lol. I have very little to no hope in regards to the unified OS they are bringing.
I have 0 complaints about Galaxy Tab S7, so I considered Samsung 21 Ultra. I liked it when I got a chance to use it in a store. But after the atrocious experiences with Note 4 and some short time spent with Galaxy 9, 10, I still don't see myself using a Samsung phone.
In Pixel 6 video comments I saw people raging on 21 Ultra for slowness, battery issues so it looks like not much has changed unfortunately.
When I heard about Google working on a chip for Pixel, that got me excited. As long as it's at least comparably as fast as SD 865, but is smooth, I will be more than happy to return to the vanilla Android. Can't lie, I missed it.
Summarizing, if you owned a Pixel before, you should know pretty well what's to expect and whether you liked it or not. If that would be your first Pixel device, just go for it. This year seems to be the best time ever to join #TeamPixel.
BabeShaq said:
1. Yes keep it, you loose very little with this (if anything). You can enable blood pressure and ECG with this (currently running it on OnePlus 8Pro and it works without issues):
How to enable ECG and Blood Pressure features on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
Here's how you can enable ECG and blood pressure monitoring on your Galaxy Watch 4 in all regions, even with non-Samsung phones.
www.xda-developers.com
So just some fiddling around, but you only need to do this once and you're set to go.
2. No one can tell you what is better for you but I can share how I decided to return to Google.
The most important phone feature for me always been smoothness. Long time ago I switched from Nexus 5 to Samsung Note 4. It was supposed to be a step up with the newer processor, but Sammy let me down big time.
I was shook by how much smoother the Nexus was. I was chasing for a better performance for Note 4, so I tried rooting, custom roms etc., but without luck. Nexus 5 was simply much better in that regard.
What I learned about Google phones in the long run:
I was used to getting a poorer and poorer performance from Samsung as the phone aged. With Nexus and Pixels it was always the other way around. In my experience Google phones were not that great when they got released, but in months, with help of updates, they started flying.
I loved the community support around these devices. What most called 'a plain' version of Android, happened to be as rich in functionality as I would want them to be (with help of rooting and some neat apps). Also, Google phones had the reputation of being a compromise choice. E.g. with Pixel 2 people didn't like the screen. Meanwhile I absolutely adored it because I knew there were tools that allowed you to adjust display as you like. If not the community, I would've never learned about this though.
Reviews never called full justice over these devices for some reason. I was rarely finding a review that would justify my experiences with Google phones. It felt like the reviewers were playing around with them for a couple of weeks and then putting them back to the drawer. A Nexus/Pixel in early days without rooting for me seemed like a waste (things have changed now days, I don't see a reason for rooting anymore).
I split ways with Pixel after 2XL. Although it was a really amazing phone, Pixels 3 and 4 didn't seem attractive for me with the price.
I went to OnePlus with 7 PRO which was offering a clean enough OS, smooth performance and insane screen. Really amazing phone.
8 PRO is still ok, but it never felt like a step forwards from 7 PRO (except from camera). Software updates got very slow, i'm not even sure if 8 is supported anymore, lol. I have very little to no hope in regards to the unified OS they are bringing.
I have 0 complaints about Galaxy Tab S7, so I considered Samsung 21 Ultra. I liked it when I got a chance to use it in a store. But after the atrocious experiences with Note 4 and some short time spent with Galaxy 9, 10, I still don't see myself using a Samsung phone.
In Pixel 6 video comments I saw people raging on 21 Ultra for slowness, battery issues so it looks like not much has changed unfortunately.
When I heard about Google working on a chip for Pixel, that got me excited. As long as it's at least comparably as fast as SD 865, but is smooth, I will be more than happy to return to the vanilla Android. Can't lie, I missed it.
Summarizing, if you owned a Pixel before, you should know pretty well what's to expect and whether you liked it or not. If that would be your first Pixel device, just go for it. This year seems to be the best time ever to join #TeamPixel.
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You make some really great points. If I can get those features paired with a 6 pro then I'll probably go for it. I don't normally use those features but it's just something about me if I don't get the full of experience of a device I paid $450 for. This does seem like the perfect time to move over to pixel. Battery life means a lot to me and with that 5000mah I'm pretty much sold on it. On top of that if this is anything like what apple is doing with their bionic chip then battery life should be really good.
I'm also not sure if I should do 128gb or 256gb
I plan on using my cool galaxy watch 4 with this badboy device! Cheers
I just pre-ordered mine. 128gb stormy black. Gonna put a dbrand skin on it
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You make some really great points. If I can get those features paired with a 6 pro then I'll probably go for it. I don't normally use those features but it's just something about me if I don't get the full of experience of a device I paid $450 for. This does seem like the perfect time to move over to pixel. Battery life means a lot to me and with that 5000mah I'm pretty much sold on it. On top of that if this is anything like what apple is doing with their bionic chip then battery life should be really good.
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I have a galaxy watch 4 with a pixel 4xl. I use the modified apps and they work great. It's not hard at all to get them installed. Simple ADB for the watch.
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I have a galaxy watch 4 with a pixel 4xl. I use the modified apps and they work great. It's not hard at all to get them installed. Simple ADB for the watch.
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Thats good to know. I'll do that when i get it
orlans21 said:
So it looks like this might be my next phone but I have a few questions
1. Is it still worth it to have my samsung galaxy watch 4? I know there are a few features that you lose if you dont have a samsung device like ECG and body measurement features.
2. Is it going to be better to get the pro instead of waiting til next year to get the s21 ultra because I was thinking about that as well since the price might come down.
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I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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I have bought the phone but I dont have it yet. But that is interesting to hear. Maybe make a post about it in the GW4 forums
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I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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That maybe android 12 issue rather then phone
ailinmcc666 said:
I don't know if you've bought the phone yet, but you may want to hold off on that. I've been having problems - the watch (Galaxy Watch 4) and phone (6 Pro) both pair initially just fine. But if I restart my phone, the phone won't reconnect to the watch, and the galaxy wearable app seems to have forgotten the watch. The only way to reconnect them is to reset the watch completely. Considering returning the phone over it.
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I have the same setup as you. I don't have this issue at all. Maybe occasionally after a reboot I'll have to go the app and hit connect, but it's quick to do so.
Overall, I think the experience is what I hoped for.
BabeShaq said:
1. Yes keep it, you loose very little with this (if anything). You can enable blood pressure and ECG with this (currently running it on OnePlus 8Pro and it works without issues):
How to enable ECG and Blood Pressure features on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4
Here's how you can enable ECG and blood pressure monitoring on your Galaxy Watch 4 in all regions, even with non-Samsung phones.
www.xda-developers.com
So just some fiddling around, but you only need to do this once and you're set to go.
2. No one can tell you what is better for you but I can share how I decided to return to Google.
The most important phone feature for me always been smoothness. Long time ago I switched from Nexus 5 to Samsung Note 4. It was supposed to be a step up with the newer processor, but Sammy let me down big time.
I was shook by how much smoother the Nexus was. I was chasing for a better performance for Note 4, so I tried rooting, custom roms etc., but without luck. Nexus 5 was simply much better in that regard.
What I learned about Google phones in the long run:
I was used to getting a poorer and poorer performance from Samsung as the phone aged. With Nexus and Pixels it was always the other way around. In my experience Google phones were not that great when they got released, but in months, with help of updates, they started flying.
I loved the community support around these devices. What most called 'a plain' version of Android, happened to be as rich in functionality as I would want them to be (with help of rooting and some neat apps). Also, Google phones had the reputation of being a compromise choice. E.g. with Pixel 2 people didn't like the screen. Meanwhile I absolutely adored it because I knew there were tools that allowed you to adjust display as you like. If not the community, I would've never learned about this though.
Reviews never called full justice over these devices for some reason. I was rarely finding a review that would justify my experiences with Google phones. It felt like the reviewers were playing around with them for a couple of weeks and then putting them back to the drawer. A Nexus/Pixel in early days without rooting for me seemed like a waste (things have changed now days, I don't see a reason for rooting anymore).
I split ways with Pixel after 2XL. Although it was a really amazing phone, Pixels 3 and 4 didn't seem attractive for me with the price.
I went to OnePlus with 7 PRO which was offering a clean enough OS, smooth performance and insane screen. Really amazing phone.
8 PRO is still ok, but it never felt like a step forwards from 7 PRO (except from camera). Software updates got very slow, i'm not even sure if 8 is supported anymore, lol. I have very little to no hope in regards to the unified OS they are bringing.
I have 0 complaints about Galaxy Tab S7, so I considered Samsung 21 Ultra. I liked it when I got a chance to use it in a store. But after the atrocious experiences with Note 4 and some short time spent with Galaxy 9, 10, I still don't see myself using a Samsung phone.
In Pixel 6 video comments I saw people raging on 21 Ultra for slowness, battery issues so it looks like not much has changed unfortunately.
When I heard about Google working on a chip for Pixel, that got me excited. As long as it's at least comparably as fast as SD 865, but is smooth, I will be more than happy to return to the vanilla Android. Can't lie, I missed it.
Summarizing, if you owned a Pixel before, you should know pretty well what's to expect and whether you liked it or not. If that would be your first Pixel device, just go for it. This year seems to be the best time ever to join #TeamPixel.
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Thanks for the advice. It does seem like a good time to join the Pixel family. Only device I've seen previously is my partner, who has a Pixel 4a, which I've used a bit, and I found it to be a impressive device.
I'll stick with it for now, maybe do a factory reset without restoring from a backup, go in fresh, and maybe that will help with this problem.
orlans21 said:
You make some really great points. If I can get those features paired with a 6 pro then I'll probably go for it. I don't normally use those features but it's just something about me if I don't get the full of experience of a device I paid $450 for. This does seem like the perfect time to move over to pixel. Battery life means a lot to me and with that 5000mah I'm pretty much sold on it. On top of that if this is anything like what apple is doing with their bionic chip then battery life should be really good.
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Battery life has been strange for me on the device - sometimes it's unbelievably good, other times, it seems to drain quite fast. But I haven't really kept track of my usage on those days, so it could have been something I'm doing sometimes to drain it fast.
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Battery life has been strange for me on the device - sometimes it's unbelievably good, other times, it seems to drain quite fast. But I haven't really kept track of my usage on those days, so it could have been something I'm doing sometimes to drain it fast.
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It can drain fast if you have weak cell service and its also adaptive battery so it could be learning your usage
gettinwicked said:
I have a galaxy watch 4 with a pixel 4xl. I use the modified apps and they work great. It's not hard at all to get them installed. Simple ADB for the watch.
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Do u need a computer? If yes. Then Is not"simple". Lol
ajftl said:
Do u need a computer? If yes. Then Is not"simple". Lol
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It really is dude. You turn on adb debugging on the watch, connect to it via wifi, put in like 3 commands and done. Also, if you're in XDA, this is probably the most simple thing you do to devices.
Adb connect 'ip'
Adb -s install 'ip' watch4.xxx
Adb disconnect 'ip'
Done
I have no issue with pairing. Phone and watch work good together.
I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.
I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.
I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.
there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.
Paz9 said:
Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.
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There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.
Yensid eno said:
I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
Yensid eno said:
That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.
I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7
I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.
To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.