So Samsung has decided to jump in bed with Microsoft and force us to use their crappy software. Wanted to know if anyone has some suggestions for a alternative. I just want to seamlessly back up and/or restore all of my phone's data to and from one place. Samsung Cloud made it super simple. I'm not so sold on One Drive or Google Drive as one stop alternatives.
Try mylio. I just started using it but have heard great things about it
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You can try iDrive if you want more privacy. Since iDrive encrypts your data directly and only you know the master password to read the encrypted data.
I take advantage of my 10+'s SD card storage.
I use APK Export to make copies of all my apks, system apks/updates and store them there.
I use the SD card as a data drive. All critical data is stored here with a backup of it going to the laptop.
Downloads are quarantined on internal memory before going to the data drive.
Reloads are faster and easier; all the data is already on the phone. All cloud apps chew up battery, bandwidth and my bloody patience. Don't have time for this.
Your phone's backup can be made nearly 100% internally redundant if your choose to take advantage of it's capabilities and plan ahead. Using all internally stored apk/update backups to reload means all are proven and stable. No rude surprises.
Keep at least 2 separate copies of complete backup data; only 2 types of computer users, those who have lost data and those who will. Be ready to reload at anytime...
Using a 512 GB card right now and wuv it. This Lexar is fast, stable and only paid $74 total for it.
I have 429 gb free on internal memory and 200 gb free on the card. From hard reset can have the phone operational in about 30 minutes, fully dailed in about 12 hours.
Not as good as a cloned copy but it will do... doing these reload setups has gotten me very familiar with Android which helps me a lot in the long haul.
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got myself a class 10 16gb card and was hoping to use app2sd to place all my junk onto the card. but i notice it was only moving things to /sdcard which is still the internal memory...
has anyone figured out a way around this or know of the limitations?
There are no limitations. There's 16 freaking gigs already there. Use the new sd card for music or something.
The only reason I have an sdcard in mine is for mirroring, in case something happens to the device. Then I'll still have all of my crap backed up. Or in case my sdcard takes a dump, like it did two weeks ago.
I can just copy over the data if need be.
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The only reason I have an sdcard in mine is for mirroring, in case something happens to the device. Then I'll still have all of my crap backed up. Or in case my sdcard takes a dump, like it did two weeks ago.
I can just copy over the data if need be.
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But you have to manually back your data up to the scarf, don't you?
I hate the thought of lodging all my data because there is no way to get to it if my phone bricks for any reason.
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Why don't you just use Titanium Backup to backup the apps? A2SD will not 'backup' your apps. It just moves part of the app to the FAT portion of your sdcard. A2EXT will move the entire app but why in the world anyone would need to use that with any modern high end phone is beyond me.
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Why don't you just use Titanium Backup to backup the apps? A2SD will not 'backup' your apps. It just moves part of the app to the FAT portion of your sdcard. A2EXT will move the entire app but why in the world anyone would need to use that with any modern high end phone is beyond me.
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Agreed - Put your music and videos, maybe even your photos, on your External SD (I moved all of my iTunes music/video/podcast library there and sync with iSyncr).
Leave everything else on your internal SD. It's huge. Use Titanium to backup, and if you have a dropbox account, you'll get a 'remote' backup thrown in to boot.
I have a similar problem . I made a thread about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414115
I have seen several conflicting threads on this, but no clear solution. Basically, the problem I have is that if I move more than 50 or so apps to my SD card (I have heard others complain about the problem manifesting at around 70 apps) a race condition occurs during the card scan, which since it doesn't complete before a timeout, causes the phone to soft reset (basically reload just the top level OS above the continuously running kernel). These resets then continue to occur at semi-random intervals, such as every time you try to access the memory card. So far, the only fix I have is to delete apps from the SD card, and it really doesn't matter which ones they are, only that above a certain number, the system becomes unstable, and I presume it is because the system cannot index all of the apps fast enough. I can't believe the stupid Samsung engineers never thought of fixing this.
Anyway, I am running a stock, rooted kernel, stock ROM, but the internal memory is nearly full with all of the large applications that for whatever reason cannot be moved to SD. Does anybody have any viable options?
I have heard of some people using app2SD. I have heard of others remapping their external storage to sd_card with the USB storage mapped to sd_card/external_sd. I tried replacing my memory card (Sandisk, 16GB, Class 2) with a brand new, out of box (Sandisk, 16GB, Class 6), and I am still limited to the same number of installed apps. I'm not sure, but I think the number of active widgets on the desktop may also be a contributing factor (all of my widgets are stored to internal memory).
I have about 180 apps on my phone and have never run out of room; what do you have on there that takes up so much space?
if its data, then move that to an external sd...
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I have about 180 apps on my phone and have never run out of room; what do you have on there that takes up so much space?
if its data, then move that to an external sd...
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Well, first of all, I've never removed the Sprint bloatware. I also have the Amazon App store and (on the assumption that my SD card still has gigabytes of storage) pretty indiscriminantly "purchase" and install Amazon's free app of the day, plus all the other apps I've gotten from Google Play. By latest count, it is around 360 apps, and that was after I deleted several large apps that for some horrible reason couldn't be moved to the SD card, including PoolBar (50MB+), Android Phrase Book (26 MB+), some other tennis game I got from Amazon (20+MB), none of which gave you the option of offloaded to SD. About 110 of the apps were games, 25 utilities, 24 media apps, 20 social networking apps, 19 shopping apps, 17 travel apps, 16 PIM apps, 11 photo manipulation tools, 11 internet apps, 8 maps and navigation, etc.
Complicating matters, Android has a /data/data directory which has soft links to all the applications installed on your system, regardless of whether they are installed on internal or external memory, and each link must be the filesystem minimum 4KBs each. Looking at root explorer, I see that this directory alone is over 300MBs of internal storage.
well, the answer to your problem is easy; get rid of 1/2 the **** on your phone that you never use, and you will be fine!
if you don't use it every day or at least once a week, its gotta go
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Well, first of all, I've never removed the Sprint bloatware. I also have the Amazon App store and (on the assumption that my SD card still has gigabytes of storage) pretty indiscriminantly "purchase" and install Amazon's free app of the day, plus all the other apps I've gotten from Google Play. By latest count, it is around 360 apps, and that was after I deleted several large apps that for some horrible reason couldn't be moved to the SD card, including PoolBar (50MB+), Android Phrase Book (26 MB+), some other tennis game I got from Amazon (20+MB), none of which gave you the option of offloaded to SD. About 110 of the apps were games, 25 utilities, 24 media apps, 20 social networking apps, 19 shopping apps, 17 travel apps, 16 PIM apps, 11 photo manipulation tools, 11 internet apps, 8 maps and navigation, etc.
Complicating matters, Android has a /data/data directory which has soft links to all the applications installed on your system, regardless of whether they are installed on internal or external memory, and each link must be the filesystem minimum 4KBs each. Looking at root explorer, I see that this directory alone is over 300MBs of internal storage.
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I can't imagine ever installing that many apps, but whatever... If it we me, I would start by trimming off anything you "know" you have never or will never use. After that I would concentrate on putting the biggest apps on the SD card and the rest on the internal. I have 122 apps installed on internal only with much room to spare and I am sure there are things I just will never use. LOL
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I can't imagine ever installing that many apps, but whatever... If it we me, I would start by trimming off anything you "know" you have never or will never use. After that I would concentrate on putting the biggest apps on the SD card and the rest on the internal. I have 122 apps installed on internal only with much room to spare and I am sure there are things I just will never use. LOL
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It really isn't hard to use a bunch of apps, particularly with all the websites, including this one, that have their own viewer apps (or Wikipedia, urban dictionary, etc.). Anyway, I have all my apps in folders so it still only requires 2 pages of apps. I think it is stupid that they designed the operating system so that you would be app limited, even with an unlimited amount of storage via the sd card slot. I hope this is one feature they fixed in ICS. A much better strategy for exploiting the multilevel memory architecture would have been to allow the user to install ALL nonessential apps to the SD card by default, eliminating the need for soft links in internal storage, and then use the internal storage as a nonvolatile app cache with an LRU replacement policy. This would then give the most commonly used apps the performance benefit of running from internal storage without the user having to go moving crap around. It would actually be very similar to what Intel is now doing with solid-state drives as a hard disk cache with the new Z68 chipset.
Hi guys, I posted this over at android central but I also wanted to post here to get as much help as possible.
"Guys,quick question. I haven't been on stock rom for a long while but I kind of missed using the S-pen and someone suggested a stock-based custom 4.3 rom that I actually like so I've stuck with it for the time being. Now, I never really bothered with move to SD mods because I've learned to use my internal and external memory more efficiently but I figured if it's feature in TW I might as well take advantage since I'll be traveling abroad for two months come Dec. Well I've noticed that even after the apps are "moved" to the SD card, I don't regain any usable space on my internal card. I downloaded a game that's 779MB. My internal reduced from 3GB to 2.2GB. Okay. So I moved the game to my SD card. It moved 778MB to the SD card and 656KB remained on my phone. However, my internal only went from 2.2GB to 2.3GB. What?
I went back and calculated all the games I moved over and I've barely recovered more than 500MB for close to 30 games/apps moved to SD. All the games are still taking up close to their entire size in internal memory. Then what's the point? I have a 64GB class 10 card. Can someone enlighten me on what the hell is going on? I normally would just shrug of when things fail this like this but actually being tempted to use it and then finding it broken is really irritating."
"Also, I should point out that none of the storage is taken up by game data. Usually when I finish game and haven't touched it for a while I just clear data and uninstall. However, I will be traveling with a organization that specializes in providing AIDS/HIV care and education to developing nations, so I will going to multiple small villages across five countries. I'm not counting on having any kind of service for a good majority of the time so I thought "great" I'll take advantage of this new feature and download every game I've ever bought so I have something to occupy my time during the plane/train rides. I haven't downloaded any games on my phone since I got the N7 so every game currently on my phone is newly downloaded and never opened, so, no game data."
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Hi guys, I posted this over at android central but I also wanted to post here to get as much help as possible.
"Guys,quick question. I haven't been on stock rom for a long while but I kind of missed using the S-pen and someone suggested a stock-based custom 4.3 rom that I actually like so I've stuck with it for the time being. Now, I never really bothered with move to SD mods because I've learned to use my internal and external memory more efficiently but I figured if it's feature in TW I might as well take advantage since I'll be traveling abroad for two months come Dec. Well I've noticed that even after the apps are "moved" to the SD card, I don't regain any usable space on my internal card. I downloaded a game that's 779MB. My internal reduced from 3GB to 2.2GB. Okay. So I moved the game to my SD card. It moved 778MB to the SD card and 656KB remained on my phone. However, my internal only went from 2.2GB to 2.3GB. What?
I went back and calculated all the games I moved over and I've barely recovered more than 500MB for close to 30 games/apps moved to SD. All the games are still taking up close to their entire size in internal memory. Then what's the point? I have a 64GB class 10 card. Can someone enlighten me on what the hell is going on? I normally would just shrug of when things fail this like this but actually being tempted to use it and then finding it broken is really irritating."
"Also, I should point out that none of the storage is taken up by game data. Usually when I finish game and haven't touched it for a while I just clear data and uninstall. However, I will be traveling with a organization that specializes in providing AIDS/HIV care and education to developing nations, so I will going to multiple small villages across five countries. I'm not counting on having any kind of service for a good majority of the time so I thought "great" I'll take advantage of this new feature and download every game I've ever bought so I have something to occupy my time during the plane/train rides. I haven't downloaded any games on my phone since I got the N7 so every game currently on my phone is newly downloaded and never opened, so, no game data."
Any help would be much appreciated.
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move to SD feature only move your apk to your external sd card..not your sd data..sd data remain in internal storage.
sora9009 said:
move to SD feature only move your apk to your external sd card..not your sd data..sd data remain in internal storage.
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Yeah...I know.
I spent some time cleaning out my SD card area yesterday from my computer and something went very...very wrong. The USB connection dropped and when it came back the entire area was wiped clean. All the pictures, videos, downloads are gone.
Been restoring using Diskdigger Pro. It does not list the SD partition but I was able to get a good chunk from the Data area. I do have some of the pictures backed up as well...I think there are still some on the SD card I gave to my GPS before upgrading to the One.
So I figured this would be a good time to have an open discussion on the best backup methods. I do auto-push to Google+ but it is a bit limited in space. Box.net has more size and would seem attractive but I never see many people talking about using it for backup.
calash said:
I spent some time cleaning out my SD card area yesterday from my computer and something went very...very wrong. The USB connection dropped and when it came back the entire area was wiped clean. All the pictures, videos, downloads are gone.
Been restoring using Diskdigger Pro. It does not list the SD partition but I was able to get a good chunk from the Data area. I do have some of the pictures backed up as well...I think there are still some on the SD card I gave to my GPS before upgrading to the One.
So I figured this would be a good time to have an open discussion on the best backup methods. I do auto-push to Google+ but it is a bit limited in space. Box.net has more size and would seem attractive but I never see many people talking about using it for backup.
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I use my Meenova SD card reader to back up my system and store all my videos and pics. Have a lot more space on my phone now.
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I am giving FolderSync Lite a try
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dk.tacit.android.foldersync.lite&hl=en
Lite is limited to a few accounts, but I only need the Box.net account at the moment.
I think I may also have a backup on my computer...I will have to check and see if I can recover from that as well.
I think this may be related to Titanium Backup. On my work computer it looked like I had two backup directories, one in the root and the other under a folder structure that had the word Emulated in it. I had assumed that was just an error from when it setup and was trying to locate the storage area but soon after deleting that one I lost access and the data went away.
Between the file recovery and any backups I can find I think I should be good...then with some sort of backup in place I should be in good shape if this happens in the future.
I use box.net and I have everything backed up to it since I have 50Gb of storage there. Also getting a Meenova SD card reader soon myself.
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It says they only let 2 multi-windows now.... DIdn't before you could do 3 or 4?
Before that I could do as much multi-windows as I wanted? Why did they make this change? Is this a downgrade?
Or am I just imaging things? Was it always 2.
Also, Polaris Office 5 sucks it has so many glitches (document not supported, but it opens manually, doesn't free draw save for ppt, etc.) . I want the polaris office that was included in the original note 10.1.
Also, wtf google Why did you take the external SD card away...
There was a reason why I bought the 16 gb ones.
It was always 2 from the factory. You can root and enable 4 though.
Hahahalalala said:
Also, wtf google Why did you take the external SD card away...
There was a reason why I bought the 16 gb ones.
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So you use the cloud... Google wants to own your info, not just allow you access to it....
The bullsh!t line about security is ridiculous...
The cloud is not the answer. Download and upload speeds, data charges, file sizes and security issues. Just a few concerns. I use cloud storage and am in the process of reducing it. Trust Google? Hell, that is akin to demanding you trust the government. You cannot.
Via my Note 3
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The cloud is not the answer. Download and upload speeds, data charges, file sizes and security issues. Just a few concerns. I use cloud storage and am in the process of reducing it. Trust Google? Hell, that is akin to demanding you trust the government. You cannot.
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I agree about the cloud not being the answer. I also agree that taking away a feature people relied on, even made purchasing decisions based on (16GB vs.32GB), for no truthfully explainable reason, is pretty crappy. But it's time to move on. The hobbling of external storage first came to light last December when the SGS4 GPe received 4.4.2. That's six months ago. Since then, nothing's changed. People's choices are:
Leave Android for another OS out of contempt for Google
Stay on 4.3 forever
Root and install a fix
Adjust the way you use the external SD card and come up with new ways to do things
Trade your 16GB devices for one with more storage
***** endlessly to strangers on discussion forums about how crappy Google's decision was and how your life has been ruined
Even with six months having passed, every day, on every forum I view, there's another new thread started about "why can't I save to external SD?" It's getting kind of old. So people need to pick one of the above and move on. And those choosing option 6, no one here can help you and answers to any and all questions you might ask have been posted dozens of times. F'd up external storage is Google's "new normal" and they aren't going to back down.
P.S. - I chose option 4
we can stop 16g android device and finally we have 32g or more.
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hochui said:
we can stop 16g android device and finally we have 32g or more.
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Someone should tell Samsung.
This really isn't the catastrophe it's being made out to be. Video, games, and pics take up the most storage space. They can be stored and played off the external SD card. Most large apps allow you to move them to external SD too. All Samsung's apps (Video, Music, Gallery, My Files, Samsung Link) have universal access to external storage and can be used to manipulate files saved there. Any app can create its own sandbox on external SD and save/edit/delete files there. What's been lost is every app having access to everything on external storage. It's a pain in the a_s but there are work-arounds that aren't that onerous and most people, especially consumption users, will be fine.
4. root and SDfix
The only acceptable solution is to root and run SDfix from playstore.
I was forced to do that after kitkat OTA upgrade on my Note3 and external SD write was crippled overnight.
My Note10 is still on 4.3 rooted, but when I go 4.4, root+SDfix will be first on the list right after the upgrade.
BarryH_GEG said:
I agree about the cloud not being the answer. I also agree that taking away a feature people relied on, even made purchasing decisions based on (16GB vs.32GB), for no truthfully explainable reason, is pretty crappy. But it's time to move on. The hobbling of external storage first came to light last December when the SGS4 GPe received 4.4.2. That's six months ago. Since then, nothing's changed. People's choices are:
Leave Android for another OS out of contempt for Google
Stay on 4.3 forever
Root and install a fix
Adjust the way you use the external SD card and come up with new ways to do things
Trade your 16GB devices for one with more storage
***** endlessly to strangers on discussion forums about how crappy Google's decision was and how your life has been ruined
Even with six months having passed, every day, on every forum I view, there's another new thread started about "why can't I save to external SD?" It's getting kind of old. So people need to pick one of the above and move on. And those choosing option 6, no one here can help you and answers to any and all questions you might ask have been posted dozens of times. F'd up external storage is Google's "new normal" and they aren't going to back down.
P.S. - I chose option 4
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I pick 6... :silly:
Seriously though, the sdfix doesn't fix everything unfortunately but its the best option right now.
And just so we're absolutely clear, GOOGLE SUX!!!!!!