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I am looking for a light sensor solution like on the IPhone. If u get a call and you put the phone at your ear, the phone screen gets dark, thats normal,
but what is, if I want to turn on speaker or something during a call? I allways have to press the ON/OFF button.
At the Iphone, they got a better solution for that.
Can anayone manage a little plugin cab or does anyone know a registry solution?
you need Touch_InCall_Screen_Tweak, It can do what you want but it is not using the light sensor.
It uses the G-Sensor, when the device is not in vertical position (closed to your ear), phone will wake up automatically and sleeps again when you take it close to your ear to speak (vertical position).
thank u for your reply, but I want a light sensor app.
Am not sure
but there isnt a light sensor in the blackstone to start with
eI am looking for a light sensor solution like on the IPhone. If u get a call and you put the phone at your ear, the phone screen gets dark, thats normal,
but what is, if I want to turn on speaker or something during a call? I allways have to press the ON/OFF button.
At the Iphone, they got a better solution for that.
Can anayone manage a little plugin cab or does anyone know a registry solution?
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+1 for that
Am not sure
but there isnt a light sensor in the blackstone to start with
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i think you'r wrong m8 ... From what i know there is a light sensor in blackstone
the blackstone has a light sensor next to the ear speaker. It is oossibble to turn it on. but wehen you remove it from your ear, the light does not turn back on
Search for "PocketShield", this program has the requested feature, and much more.
yes, 3.0 is very cool
bouwew said:
Search for "PocketShield", this program has the requested feature, and much more.
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Pocket Shield is not freeware and is definetly not what I want.
I just look for a solution auto-lock un-lock when you remove or taken to the ear.
Microsoft developers will read this thread and bring it into new builds.
Ok, try this one. It seems to be available for free or at least the minimum version ,the full version is around the 7 $. You can measure the Brightness at your workplace, in rooms, use it for Photography or to set up aquariums and terrariums. Works fine although I use it just like for fun maybe is useful for your work.
http://www.pocketpc-software-downlo...-for-htc-touch-diamond-download-ygwklytx.html
The software is called Kai's Luxmeter pro 1.2
Rocheau said:
Ok, try this one. It seems to be available for free or at least the minimum version ,the full version is around the 7 $. You can measure the Brightness at your workplace, in rooms, use it for Photography or to set up aquariums and terrariums. Works fine although I use it just like for fun maybe is useful for your work.
http://www.pocketpc-software-downlo...-for-htc-touch-diamond-download-ygwklytx.html
The software is called Kai's Luxmeter pro 1.2
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I dont want a Luxmeter, if I want a Luxmeter than I take mToolbox.
I tried Pocket Shield and after uninstalling this program, the light sensor does not work anymore.
Try TICST
really, just try it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488991
This is what you want to adequately switch the screen off as it comes to your ear and then on again as it comes away from your ear.
I've been using it on a an HD since March/April and it works flawlessly. It even has intelligent options to handle bluetooth calls and control of the speakerphone.
hmmm sounds good but what happens if you get a call at night and there's no light?
Need a combination of light sensor and g-sensor I think.
Yes it has it - please just try it before finding problems with it. It will work for you!!!
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hmmm sounds good but what happens if you get a call at night and there's no light?
Need a combination of light sensor and g-sensor I think.
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Yes this is one of the biggest problems with lightsensor...
Tested the detection range with mToolbox and Lumos - and it shows "0" very early even if there's a bit light around - so the light sensor in-call-detection wont work very good.
How is it solved at iPhone?
BTW:
[APP]Touch InCall Screen Tweak v1.2.0 - Updated 3 Sep 09 - Battery Drain Fix
So it doesn't use the light sensor then?
From v1.0.6 it DOES use the light sense to detect if it is against your ear. This is really a double check to back up the orientation. It doesn't use it to determine if it's away from your ear because the sensor doesn't seem to work when the screen is off, so it's of no use for switching the screen back on.
so - what else you want?
The iPhone doesn't use the light sensor to toggle screen, it uses proximity sensor - it turns off the screen when something approaches the area near the speaker and turns it back on when there's nothing near it.
Light sensor can't work reliably because you can get a call in a dark room.
TICST is a workaround using both the light sensor and the g-sensor, it's rather good but not perfect.
A perfect solution requires hardware that's missing in Touch HD. HTC HD2 will have the proximity sensor so screen toggling will be working there, hopefully.
Do you think someone will make an app that will detect your face and unlock the phone now that we have a front facing camera. Also what is the motion sensor used for?
That'd be awesome
Do you think someone will make an app that will detect your face and unlock the phone now that we have a front facing camera. Also what is the motion sensor used for?
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Hope I am posting this correctly,
Saw this a few months ago
http://onlygizmos.com/recognizr-app-brings-face-detection-to-android/2010/02/
ferfy67 said:
Hope I am posting this correctly,
Saw this a few months ago
http://onlygizmos.com/recognizr-app-brings-face-detection-to-android/2010/02/
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Sweet. Hopefully it's hacked with front camera access and the ability to enable it by holding the volume rocker to do the scan. Hopefully you don't wake up one day looking really ugly.
Lots to hope for LOL
It would be nice to have the camera key on the side though. There already a couple of face "detection" apps out there, not recognition though. Photofunia, in market, takes face and puts in various backrounds, works well
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Do you think someone will make an app that will detect your face and unlock the phone now that we have a front facing camera. Also what is the motion sensor used for?
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One example of the motion sensor is that when someone calls you, the Evo quiets the ringtone when it detects you've moved your phone with the intent to pick up the call.
It's actually a proximity sensor, used to turn the screen off when it's held close to your face. The feature of the ringer quieting on pickup uses the accelerometer.
So what does the motion sensor do?
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It's actually a proximity sensor, used to turn the screen off when it's held close to your face. The feature of the ringer quieting on pickup uses the accelerometer.
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I think he means "accelerometer" when he says "motion sensor"
NOPE
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It's actually a proximity sensor, used to turn the screen off when it's held close to your face. The feature of the ringer quieting on pickup uses the accelerometer.
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The Light sensor via front of HD2 disables touchscreen of device when held close to face! The motion sensor is used for screen rotate and other apps that work well with phone positioning commands!
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The Light sensor via front of HD2 disables touchscreen of device when held close to face! The motion sensor is used for screen rotate and other apps that work well with phone positioning commands!
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The light sensor has nothing to do with disabling the touch screen. Its used to change the auto brightness of the display. The screen shuts off when on the phone because its turned upright.
Well that's how it works on the evo. So I would think the same for hd2 that u mentioned in a evo thread...
It is turned off via proximity sensor not accelerometer
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It is turned off via proximity sensor not accelerometer
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Ahh, but u can hold the phone next to u and the screen won't come on till u tilt the phone horizontal...anyway its not the light sensor...And yes a face recog app would be very cool to have...
People, people! Please!
1) Accelerometer: Used to detect changes in movement. Used primarily in Android for apps such as Bump, or to rotate the screen, or games such as Teeter and racing simulators (tilt phone like you're turning the steering wheel, etc.) Also known as the motion sensor.
2) Light sensor: Used to detect ambient light so that when the phone's brightness is set to automatic, it knows to increase or decrease the brightness of the screen appropriately.
3) Proximity sensor: Used to detect if something is near the speaker and of the phone. Mainly it is used to turn off the screen and touch input when it detects something near its front, and a call is in progress (aka, detects the side of your head near it, so your cheek doesn't accidentally push any buttons).
As for the facial recognition, yes, that would be nice, but what happens when you get a haircut? Put on glasses? Have a zit? Get a black eye? Swollen lip? Sunburn? Grow/shave a beard/mustache/etc.? That's the problem with these kinds of software, and why all computers that have facial recognition will always have a password or some other kind of backup authentication.
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People, people! Please!
1) Accelerometer: Used to detect changes in movement. Used primarily in Android for apps such as Bump, or to rotate the screen, or games such as Teeter and racing simulators (tilt phone like you're turning the steering wheel, etc.) Also known as the motion sensor.
2) Light sensor: Used to detect ambient light so that when the phone's brightness is set to automatic, it knows to increase or decrease the brightness of the screen appropriately.
3) Proximity sensor: Used to detect if something is near the speaker and of the phone. Mainly it is used to turn off the screen and touch input when it detects something near its front, and a call is in progress (aka, detects the side of your head near it, so your cheek doesn't accidentally push any buttons).
As for the facial recognition, yes, that would be nice, but what happens when you get a haircut? Put on glasses? Have a zit? Get a black eye? Swollen lip? Sunburn? Grow/shave a beard/mustache/etc.? That's the problem with these kinds of software, and why all computers that have facial recognition will always have a password or some other kind of backup authentication.
Questions?
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Nope! You posted a very good explanation! Cheers to you!
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People, people! Please!
1) Accelerometer: Used to detect changes in movement. Used primarily in Android for apps such as Bump, or to rotate the screen, or games such as Teeter and racing simulators (tilt phone like you're turning the steering wheel, etc.) Also known as the motion sensor.
2) Light sensor: Used to detect ambient light so that when the phone's brightness is set to automatic, it knows to increase or decrease the brightness of the screen appropriately.
3) Proximity sensor: Used to detect if something is near the speaker and of the phone. Mainly it is used to turn off the screen and touch input when it detects something near its front, and a call is in progress (aka, detects the side of your head near it, so your cheek doesn't accidentally push any buttons).
As for the facial recognition, yes, that would be nice, but what happens when you get a haircut? Put on glasses? Have a zit? Get a black eye? Swollen lip? Sunburn? Grow/shave a beard/mustache/etc.? That's the problem with these kinds of software, and why all computers that have facial recognition will always have a password or some other kind of backup authentication.
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no... asus laptops have the face recognition systems and it works GReAT!!! no problems whatsoever... but thats b/c u can put sooo many pictures and set the sensitivity of the security on the camera... its pretty sweet
tauzins said:
no... asus laptops have the face recognition systems and it works GReAT!!! no problems whatsoever... but thats b/c u can put sooo many pictures and set the sensitivity of the security on the camera... its pretty sweet
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It's also a laptop and you still have the password login as a backup. Believe me, I used to cell them and had to reset the password every other day because bratty little kids came in and thought they were smart and tough by setting the camera login to themselves making some disgusting face, and the password to "toughguy" or "password".
Wow!!!!!!
is this app out yet? Couldnt find it on the market..
ferfy67 said:
Hope I a posting this correctly,
Saw this a few months ago
http://onlygizmos.com/recognizr-app-brings-face-detection-to-android/2010/02/
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*This was posted from my Evo 4G using Tapatalkpro! Great app, if you want to browse and post through many dfferent forums*
Would be pretty great!
Lol at the misinformation, thanks for clearing that up for our slower folk.
This is definitely gonna happen sooner or later.
It would need a backup method of course but if made properly it would be more general and little things wouldn't change the outcome.
I was thinking this...
You take 3 pictures the first time you open the app.
It merges them, aligns the face and sets a gaussian blur to smooth and remove imperfections.
Then it cuts out things like hair and eyebrows leaving behind the static parts of your face such as eye shape, nose, mouth, jawline and cheekbones.
It basically takes the 3 specific pictures of your face, and generalizes them, while keeping them relatable to every future pic.
I think its called interpolation, which gives you the perfect identifier, ultimately being used to recognize you.
Of course a setting would be needed to change how similar the face needs to be before being granted access but theres no reason it wouldn't work.
My other going thought is an app that learns as you go but it won't work as well.
nope again!
sprink0281 said:
Nope! You posted a very good explanation! Cheers to you!
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iTS AN OK thought of how it works but my HD2 can be of any position even flat down and as long as I am in a call and i put my finger over the light sensor (same as face, ear being close to sensor not letting hardly any light get to it)
the screen disables! I think many of you may not have the HD2 if ya didn't know that, don't let internet chat and gossip get in the way of the truth, truth is within the device when holding it, not hear-say. Also why would the accelerometer have anything to do with disabling screen when in an upright position? If one was to lay down in bed chatting on fone, my HD2 would un-disable screen... Try an app called mToolbox, it emulates what light sensor and motion sensor can be used for. I would say, light sensor can be more useful in many more apps than motion, motion works great with changing screen from portrait to landscape and movement in games.. An app to control ps3 via bluetooth using HD2's accelerometer feature would be useful, but for now, i have tweaked it to off, I have many older WinMo's and find using the screen orientation key much more faster and when i need it, it gets annoying when the screen changes at unwanted times and no matter how you calibrate any accelerometer, there are flaws to it depending on what situation one is in when holding the device (fone must be upright again to go back to portrait if fone was laying down) sorry for the long babble but I'm certain that the light sensor own's the screen shut-off feature on the HD2 for sure.. Quote me again any time!
Ok so whnat seems to happen is you can keep it always on if you keep it in an upright position but if the watch tilts to the side it will sometimes turn off. I cant say this is for sure when it turns off but it is not consistent. Sometimes the screen will stay on sometimes it will turn off.
It dims but it's still on.. Seems like a good implementation to me. Im sure it wont be long and we'll have an app that can keep the backlight on if that's what you want.
When I first powered the device on, I looked in settings and found the option to keep the screen always on. However, after I updated the firmware, that option turned into the ambient light sensor option...
So it looks like they disabled that function in the current rom
The screen does turn off if the device doesn't move at all, but even the slightest movement turns the dimmed watch face back on.
that doesn't sound good
for the other 2 Wear watches, the screen always on setting had to be changed through the companion app on the phone
could someone of you please check if that switch is still there and what it does on the Moto 360
would be great, thanks!
2k4ever said:
that doesn't sound good
for the other 2 Wear watches, the screen always on setting had to be changed through the companion app on the phone
could someone of you please check if that switch is still there and what it does on the Moto 360
would be great, thanks!
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I think this is a bug with the 360. If you set ambient screen on, then the screen will go into a dimmed always on mode. It will stay on forever if the watch is kept in certain positions. For example, if you hold the watch vertically, it will stay on forever. But the screen goes blank if the watch is held in certain other positions. It seems to. Me like if it gets into a sideways like position akin to the way it sits in the charger, the screen will go blank.
I can't imagine this is intended behavior. Anyone seeing anything different?
Here's what I posted over in the discussion thread:
First I need to explain what ambient mode really is. It is definately not always on, but it's pretty clever how it works. From my experience the watch is always on when horizontal. Vertical is a little more tricky - but 90% of the time while vertical, regardless of movement, the watch is off. The other 10% the watch detects movement that resembles walking and only turns off during that time. So far I am very happy with ambient mode. It really does know when you might look at it, and turns on instantly. I can see this being an issue if you like to remove your watch and still use it.. I do this a lot while taking tests : \
Edit - I've been testing the orientations.. Here are the positions that the screen is on and off:
ON - Any orientation where the face is correctly orientated and readable from the users perspective its on.
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OFF techically the watch is sideways so you wouldnt be reading the time.
OFF Same as previous just rotated 180 degrees
OFF Upside down
ON Flat on the table - it's always on
*These results are the same regardless of movement.
Phlip00ws6 said:
Here's what I posted over in the discussion thread:
First I need to explain what ambient mode really is. It is definately not always on, but it's pretty clever how it works. From my experience the watch is always on when horizontal. Vertical is a little more tricky - but 90% of the time while vertical, regardless of movement, the watch is off. The other 10% the watch detects movement that resembles walking and only turns off during that time. So far I am very happy with ambient mode. It really does know when you might look at it, and turns on instantly. I can see this being an issue if you like to remove your watch and still use it.. I do this a lot while taking tests : \
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Thanks.. Do you know for a fact that this is intended behavior? Has Motorola explained anywhere how this is intended to work? It is different from ever other android wear device.
olc said:
Thanks.. Do you know for a fact that this is intended behavior? Has Motorola explained anywhere how this is intended to work? It is different from ever other android wear device.
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I would say this is definately the intended behavior. My guess is that in order to get the 12 hours they had to do this. Its kind of like a V8 sports car that wont pass minimum MPG and the manufacturer was required to install a "shift skip" essentially locking you out of 2nd and 3rd gear while putting around town to get that minimun MPG.
thanks Phlip00ws6!
could you tell us why part of the watch display looks gray in the 3 OFF photos?
Seems too regular for camera flash or other light sources / reflections and if the screen really is off, it shouldnd interfere with the camera
maybe there really is a bug?
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thanks Phlip00ws6!
could you tell us why part of the watch display looks gray in the 3 OFF photos?
Seems too regular for camera flash or other light sources / reflections and if the screen really is off, it shouldnd interfere with the camera
maybe there really is a bug?
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That's just the reflection of my wall. lol sorry about that. It's completely off.
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That's just the reflection of my wall. lol sorry about that. It's completely off.
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thanks for the clarification, seemed too regular to be a reflection, but was hard to tell in the small pictures
I don't have one yet so I may be wrong about this but wouldn't it make much more sense for the the light sensor to adjust the screen brightness whenever you flick your wrist or tap the screen to wake it up? This would surely improve the battery life, especially if you're in a dim environment for an extended period of time.
Tung_meister said:
I don't have one yet so I may be wrong about this but wouldn't it make much more sense for the the light sensor to adjust the screen brightness whenever you flick your wrist or tap the screen to wake it up? This would surely improve the battery life, especially if you're in a dim environment for an extended period of time.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.. Are you referencing while ambient mode is on or off?
In either case, when you move your wrist up as you would with any other watch, the screen turns fully on and its bightness is adjusted via the light sensor. The only difference ambient mode makes is that when the watch is visible to the user, it is on but dimmed. Any other time e.g the watch is facing away from you, then the screen is off.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.. Are you referencing while ambient mode is on or off?
In either case, when you move your wrist up as you would with any other watch, the screen turns fully on and its bightness is adjusted via the light sensor. The only difference ambient mode makes is that when the watch is visible to the user, it is on but dimmed. Any other time e.g the watch is facing away from you, then the screen is off.
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Oh, from what I'd read I was under the impression that the backlight level wasn't always adjusted by the light sensor. If it is then great.
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Oh, from what I'd read I was under the impression that the backlight level wasn't always adjusted by the light sensor. If it is then great.
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Technically it's not always updated. There seems to be 3 different "modes" to the watch face - on, off, and ambient mode. It's kind of hard to explain, but while the screen is in ambient mode it has one setting.. dim. But it still reacts to that "looking at my watch now" movement, turns the screen to fully on (second hand begins to move, notifications are displayed), and then the light sensor will adjust accordingly. So if the watch is laying flat on a table outside in bright sunlight the screen will be on but you wont be able to see it.
So in summary, no it doesnt respond to light while in ambient mode. Which does seem to contradict the point of it being so accurate at knowing when the watch face is visible. I could see if the face always stayed on regardless, then maybe the sensor shouldn't adjust it because theres no reason for the brightness to be all the way up if you're not looking at it.
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Technically it's not always updated. There seems to be 3 different "modes" to the watch face - on, off, and ambient mode. It's kind of hard to explain, but while the screen is in ambient mode it has one setting.. dim. But it still reacts to that "looking at my watch now" movement, turns the screen to fully on (second hand begins to move, notifications are displayed), and then the light sensor will adjust accordingly. So if the watch is laying flat on a table outside in bright sunlight the screen will be on but you wont be able to see it.
So in summary, no it doesnt respond to light while in ambient mode. Which does seem to contradict the point of it being so accurate at knowing when the watch face is visible. I could see if the face always stayed on regardless, then maybe the sensor shouldn't adjust it because theres no reason for the brightness to be all the way up if you're not looking at it.
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Its so weird what they have done with the brightness settings in Android Wear. There is a reason we are using Android devices vs iOS devices. The openness of the software and the customizations that come along with it. We need to have the choice of how we want our device setup.
I personally would like to have my watch screen on all the time on full brightness. Why is there no option for this? On my G Watch, im constantly having to turn my wrist further towards myself than i normally would or tap the screen to get it bright enough where i can see it properly. Due to this i'm probably going to hold off on my 360 purchase until its fixed.
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Its so weird what they have done with the brightness settings in Android Wear. There is a reason we are using Android devices vs iOS devices. The openness of the software and the customizations that come along with it. We need to have the choice of how we want our device setup.
I personally would like to have my watches screen on all the time on full brightness. Why is there no option for this? On my G Watch, im constantly having to turn my wrist further towards myself than i normally would or tap the screen to get it bright enough where i can see it properly.
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Patience.. let the devs do what they do. Wear is open source, just like all Android OS's - This is why we are using Android devices vs iOS devices.
Phlip00ws6 said:
Here's what I posted over in the discussion thread:
First I need to explain what ambient mode really is. It is definately not always on, but it's pretty clever how it works. From my experience the watch is always on when horizontal. Vertical is a little more tricky - but 90% of the time while vertical, regardless of movement, the watch is off. The other 10% the watch detects movement that resembles walking and only turns off during that time. So far I am very happy with ambient mode. It really does know when you might look at it, and turns on instantly. I can see this being an issue if you like to remove your watch and still use it.. I do this a lot while taking tests : \
Edit - I've been testing the orientations.. Here are the positions that the screen is on and off:
ON - Any orientation where the face is correctly orientated and readable from the users perspective its on.
OFF techically the watch is sideways so you wouldnt be reading the time.
OFF Same as previous just rotated 180 degrees
OFF Upside down
ON Flat on the table - it's always on
*These results are the same regardless of movement.
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Thank you. Now I understand how it work's
My 360 is dead when it comes to ambient mode or waking up to wrist movement/orientation changes.
This happened after some weeks of no wear, clearly something going on here as there's several reports of this around forums.
Factory reset a few times, so suspect hardware or software version issue (5.0.1).
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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I played with Ambient Mode a little before the recent update, but battery life just wasn't sufficient to keep it on. After the update, battery life improved enough for Ambient Mode, so I switched it on. I dealt with it a couple days, then ultimately turned it off for this very reason. It just seemed clunky to me, and as you stated, I'd often glance at my wrist only to see the wrong time until suddenly the watch came fully on and updated.
I was excited for Ambient mode, but like you, I no longer see the point. I'd rather just have a user-controllable setting for "fully on" sensitivity. If I could make my 360 just a little more sensitive to my raising my wrist action, it'd be perfect without Ambient Mode.
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
I've seen the screen update while it was dim. I do think that it is too dim to use outside like you mentioned.
I noticed this as well. Surely just a bug or an issue with android wear that will be fixed at some point. I'm also sure they will provide a lot more features to regulate screen controls, on, off, brightness, etc in future updates. It's just a matter of time.
I look at it this way... the sensor is kind of future proof if anything. Might not be very useful now, but could have a lot of potential in the next few months or once custom ROM's start rolling out.
Android wear is still in the early stages. It can only get better. Just be patient, we are early adopters on first generation hardware.
tlxxxsracer said:
I wish I could have the screen on all the time in some cases.. like if you go to someplace classy, i would have the face on all the time displaying the watch face. Thats just me.
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Here is a way you can set the screen on all the time:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55311726
knoxploration said:
So I've finally had the chance to play with one of these watches extensively, and I am baffled by ambient mode.
It's not that it still turns off sometimes; that makes perfect sense. What's wrong with it is that it doesn't actually update even when the screen is on.
Test it yourself. Use the default watch face, enable ambient mode, and go in a completely dark room. You can leave the watch still or move it about, just don't let it act as if you're raising your arm and brighten the display.
Watch it for two or three minutes, and you'll notice that even though the screen remains on, it never updates -- the minute hand never moves, and so it doesn't actually show the right time very quickly after it dims. (This is with the official, default watch face, a just-rest watch, the latest firmware installed, and plenty of battery remaining.)
When the screen turns on from a raise or tap in ambient mode, you can actually see the minute hand jump forward several minutes in one go. Even with ambient mode disabled, the watch still turns on automatically with the raise gesture, and it takes no longer to do so than it does in ambient mode.
That implies there is no reason to use it other than vanity. After all, in the brief time before the backlight comes on the watch shows the wrong time, and it doesn't actually show the right time any faster than it would have.
But it's not really a vanity mode either, because except in a very dark place, the dimmed screen is indistinguishable from a powered off one to those standing near you. So you're wasting power, but still look like you have a blank screen on your wrist.
So what, precisely, is the point? It seems to me to add no benefit, just to waste battery. I'm baffled.
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Just watched mine move the minutes hand just fine in ambient mode... this is with the classic Motorola face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsTpDpgYwFY
I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
zarks said:
I have started using ambient mode for the first time in a bright office environment and noticed that at random times the display completely turns off. It turns back on once I move my hand ever so slightly. For me Ambient Mode should always be on regardless of lighting condition and watch orientation.
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I thought it would stay on the dimmed mode the whole time too... but like you said it turns on with even the slightest rotation of the wrist now, and that means we can finally glance at the watch and see the time!
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The minuets do update in real time so idk what you're seeing?
This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
for me, in ambient mode, the screen still turns off after a while. but it turns back on much quicker than with ambient mode off. it often takes an exaggerated bring-up-arm movement to turn on the screen with ambient off. i used to resort to tapping the screen instead. with ambient on the battery still last me a "work day". off charger at 7AM and dies around 10PM or so...battery lasts longer with stock faces compared to Facer faces...
Most developer purposes.
My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
ws6kid said:
My ambient mode used to stay on all the time now it turns off the screen..
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I just started using it and noticed the screen stays on if you keep it flat horizontal, but if you turn your wrist past 45 degrees it turns off.
Maybe they added that with the update, did ambient mode used to stay on even when that watch is sideways?
Ambient is so useless for me, the screen is almost off all the time... So frustrating coming from a g watch
RunNgun42 said:
This observation definitely needs to be settled because we have 2 conflicting reports here. Some of you are claiming the watch does not update the time even when the screen is on unless you fully wake the screen. Others are saying it updates just fine, so what gives?
FYI my G watch always displays the correct time, even when dimmed, so I dont think it's an Android Wear problem. Sounds kinda like additional battery conservation steps by Moto. They are essentially sleeping the CPU so that there is just enough juice remaining to keep the screen on for 16+ hours. I just dont understand how some of you are experiencing this and others are not.
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For me, I believe I have seen my watch 'get stuck' maybe once or twice where the time on the dim screen wasn't the same as I had on my computer. This could just be a difference in the clocks, as whenever I check both my phone and my dim watch together, they are the same. Like RunNgun42 said, I think it might be a thing where the proc is in sleep mode to try and save power and isn't keeping up the time as accurately as it could. Once you shake it though and the screen lights up again, the proc will come out of sleep and maintain more accurate timekeeping.
Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
And yes ambient mode still turns off when the watch is at an angle consistent with being down at your side or is completely still.
SilentAce07 said:
Isn't there a screen always on option in the android wear app?
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No, you can't keep the screen on at all times out of the box, but some 3rd party software can do it...
Ambient mode is a lot quicker to wake up and react than non-ambient, it's a lot more accurate (non-ambient often stays off when I turn my arm to look at the time), it's easier to see what time it is, and it acts a lot more like a conventional watch- the display is on when you need it.
Battery drain is not a biggie, I get through the day, every day.
What is the countinously blinking IR led in the front for? By looking at the notification LED area through anothers phone camera, which is a bit sensitive in the IR, one can see the blinking IR led. Is it for focusing with the front camera? I did not activate facial recognition yet. Actually it is blinking all the time, even when the front camera is not in use.
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What is the countinously blinking IR led in the front for? By looking at the notification LED area through anothers phone camera, which is a bit sensitive in the IR, one can see the blinking IR led. Is it for focusing with the front camera? I did not activate facial recognition yet. Actually it is blinking all the time, even when the front camera is not in use.
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Its for the aod its just a sensor you're good I believe its the proximity sensor
Joe199799 said:
Its for the aod its just a sensor you're good I believe its the proximity sensor
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Ok. But the proximity sensor is always on. Always. Even when the display is inactive. I reseted the system to factory settings and at some point in the process the sensor turns on and it stays on non-stop if the phone is on. Is this normal?
AnnRohr said:
Ok. But the proximity sensor is always on. Always. Even when the display is inactive. I reseted the system to factory settings and at some point in the process the sensor turns on and it stays on non-stop if the phone is on. Is this normal?
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It's always on to check if the phone is in a pocket or not. That's completely normal. When it's in a pocket it disables aod to preserve battery. It doesn't consume battery at all and it doesn't do any harm.
Edit: also disables touchscreen when you're talking on the phone while next to your face.