Hello.
Two weeks ago I replaced my battery (2 years old) bacause the phone bagan to shut down on 35%, it was getting very hot, with very short life after recharge and so on.
They replaced it with genuine battery and now it's not so much better. Yes, now it goes to 1% and then it shuts down, but still the battery gets very hot and the battery life is not much better than the old one. I installed AccuBattery and it showed Estimated capacity: 2000mAh so I decided to try the guides in the forum for battery calibration... now the estimated capacity is 1400mAh
It's running on Oreo firmware and a custom rom Android 10.
What can I do? Is the battery defective?
Any help will be appriciated!
Thank you!
Darn I can relate to your situation, as mine says about 1837 MAH estimate in accubattery, I just bought this phone about 2 weeks ago from someone on craiglist, got it pretty cheap. I was also thinking of changing my battery but it looks like pretty difficult job. Like the most difficult there is just about.
Are you familiar with the HTC battery test? I'm curious what your old vs new batteries would have scored. My phone is on the charger right now and then when it gets to 100 I am going to run that test finally. I have been using accubattery and charged and discharged the battery a couple times since I bought it which helped (it was estimated as low as 44% capacity at one point ). Right now mine is 63% capacity.
Some lean towards it being a software issue. Also hard to say the source of the new battery and they do sit on the shelf 2 years probably at least since the phone is from 2016.
I am reading a thread and trying to find out what the best rom is for this phone and it might help the battery too. I am just having a problem with Windows 7 connecting (the driver install error, need to reinstall the drivers, M9 also has problem connecting to Windows PC so I can't unlock the bootloaders yet).
Update: I forgot to mention, mine hovers around 60-65% in accubattery, and says about 3.5 hours screen on time. BUt I have not been using this as my phone so I am gonna try that after the battery test and see what I am averaging. I am a light user, wanted a metal phone because they are stronger. A Motorola G7 Power would be a good phone if someone wants battery life and not too expensive on ebay.
This is the thread I am checking out: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/q-htc-10-power-hungry-htc-one-m8-t3791451
Hi.
I tried HTC test tool but it didn't show anything. Unfortunately, I hadn't run any tests with AccuBaterry with the old battery and I cannot compare. I'm beginning to think that it's the battery sitting on the shelf for years (I don't know how much time they can sit this way without worsening their properties) or the Android version. In fact when the phone was new, it had an excellent battry life and after I updated to Oreo firmware (official rom) the battry life got worse. I will try installing older rom, maybe even go back to stock to see if there is any difference.
While charging I see on lock screen Rapid Charge, then it goes to Charge, then Slow Charge... It's changing... I don't know if it's normal. Does it change this way for you?
Have you installed accubattery? You should, because it will tell you how your battery compares to the rated stock MAH capacity.
I ran the HTC Battery test, it drains the battery a bit for one hour, and if yours is 70% or higher after that, it is considered good. Mine was at 89% so that is not too bad.
Try again to run the HTC battery test, it's on page 2 of the tests. Also, I installed a program called generic battery drainer, because you want to cycle your battery to condition/calibrate it (especially with an older batter). When I ran that the first time my phone crashed at about 30-40 percent, and got hot. But then after that, the battery started acting more normal with each and every charge and recharge. That and using accubattery to tell me each time how much my battery was holding. According to accubattery my battery holds about 63% (about 1800mah). Accubattery says that it will give me about 4 hours of screen on time. It is not horrible nore is it that great.
With accubattery, you need to have the phone turned on while charging to gather the stats. I like it and I Think it really helps give me perspective on my battery.
I am thinking of getting a Moto G7 Power so that when we have an EMP attack I can still play videos games lol, just need to get an EMP proof storage of some kind to keep it in.
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Have you done the HTC battery reset? (3-button hold-down for 2 minutes)? DO that first, then charge to 100% and run the test.
To run the HTC Battery test, first charge your battery all the way to 100%, then type " * # * # 3 4 2 4 # * # *". On the 2nd page there's a battery test function.
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papinho said:
Hi.
I tried HTC test tool but it didn't show anything. Unfortunately, I hadn't run any tests with AccuBaterry with the old battery and I cannot compare. I'm beginning to think that it's the battery sitting on the shelf for years (I don't know how much time they can sit this way without worsening their properties) or the Android version. In fact when the phone was new, it had an excellent battry life and after I updated to Oreo firmware (official rom) the battry life got worse. I will try installing older rom, maybe even go back to stock to see if there is any difference.
While charging I see on lock screen Rapid Charge, then it goes to Charge, then Slow Charge... It's changing... I don't know if it's normal. Does it change this way for you?
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No I have not had that issue of it showing different charging rates with the same charger. It could be the cable has a short in it.
How long can you watch videos on youtube on Wifi for?
I ran my htc 10 and my HTC M9 head to head, both on youtube via wifi, watching the same at first but also some different and then later the same videos, until the phones drained and shut off.
Screen brightness for this test turned up to 100% btw.
HTC 10= 3 hours and 14 minutes
HTC M9= 3 hours and 38 minutes
Both phones are used i got the 10 on cl, the 9 on ebay. THe HTC 10 my orange led light does not function although the green led does work, I might try and run the led test. The 10 still has 63% capacity on accubattery. The estimated SOT is 4 hrs 4 minutes.
Has anything changed with yours for the estimated capacity? Have you charged and discharged a few times? Also try uninstalling and reinstalling accubattery then charge it some more, alswyas charge it 20 percent or more at a time it says for accurate estimates.
On a side note unrelated to battery I want to get my HTC Phones to work with windows 7 but the driver install never works so far.
Hi cannabiscure.
It's still the same, about 1750 mAh. I've tried the battery reset with the 3 keys before but actually the Accubattery showed less after that. I don't know, maybe it's not related and maybe I didn't made it right. I'll try again and test it but I need to install rom with Sense because it seems 3424 code is not working on pure Android. Reinstalling Accubattery does not change the readings. But I installed an app called Device HW Info and it shows 2700 mAh when the battery is on 100%. This seems far more logical for a new battery. It also shoes something called Kernel profile - 2744/3049 mAh. I don't know what does this mean.
I'm not watching many videos on youtube on the phone. Most of the time I'm browsing.
What is your screen on time (SOT)? How many hours does it say in the stock battery app and also in accubattery?
I got 3.25 hrs watching youtube on wifi with the screen on the highest brightness, so I could probably get at least 4 hours just web browsing and the screen on about 60-70 percent which is what I normally would use.
Are you using wifi or cell data for browsing, and how good is your connection?
Does rapid charging work on your replacement battery? I heard some don't.
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Hi cannabiscure.
It's still the same, about 1750 mAh. I've tried the battery reset with the 3 keys before but actually the Accubattery showed less after that. I don't know, maybe it's not related and maybe I didn't made it right. I'll try again and test it but I need to install rom with Sense because it seems 3424 code is not working on pure Android. Reinstalling Accubattery does not change the readings. But I installed an app called Device HW Info and it shows 2700 mAh when the battery is on 100%. This seems far more logical for a new battery. It also shoes something called Kernel profile - 2744/3049 mAh. I don't know what does this mean.
I'm not watching many videos on youtube on the phone. Most of the time I'm browsing.
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Can I get a general idea of run time for use on a full charge running on latest EVO rom (3.0 ?). Trying to figure what's causing my horrible battery run time. I just got one of those non-oem battery with the blue label that says "FOR HT S620/DASH" . I charged it to a hundred percent and left it alone with 3 tasks running but the screen wasn't on. Came back 2-3 hours later the reading said it was 41% base on CeleTask. I didn't check the standard power management reading. So I'm not sure if it's CeleTask malfunctioning. Maybe EVO rom draining it or bad battery? Does the phone go into idle mode if you leave it alone and the screen black out or is it still functioning until you put it into lock mode(idle mode?). Any thoughts on the battery or other causes would be very helpful. Also Wifi wasn't on.
I have an 1100 mAh battery (supposedly), and the charge lasts around 3-4 days of light use.
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I charged it to a hundred percent and left it alone with 3 tasks running but the screen wasn't on.
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What tasks did you have running?
I am getting about 3 hours of standby.... also when I have a full charge and I then turn on the media player or wifi I have about 15 minutes of battery before it shuts off. Then after it shuts off and I plug it in and repower it will say I have 35-45% ....really quirky. I was going to flash back to the earlier ROM and I still may but I seen that there will be a new ROM soon with better battery life
I bought one of those $2 replacement batteries from amazon two weeks ago. My original battery would take a huge dump (98% to dead) in the matter of 3 hours if I turned the wifi on for 5 minutes and then turned it back off.
With my new battery I end up with 82% by the end of the day with very very light use.
Light use on 3.00 + Battery cab.
I unplugged at around noon and it is now 12:38A.M.
and my battery is at 68%
I close apps when not in use and it updates weather every 60min Via edge.
With Moderate-heavy use(Texting, and opera) It will get about 10% by 1:30-2A.M.
Talk time is Decent though Went 2 hours and only lost about 10-15% .
\I have noticed a Concerable Drop in life after updating from 2.80 to 3.00
This is Also on the OEM 1100MAH battery(and I'm also using a little Much of a charger..so its screwed my battery)
Better battery life with a replacement
I'd replaced the original battery with an unofficial replacement, since the original was nearly dead (1 days). This one lasts about 3 days with the new EVO 3.0 ROM.
I haven't done any real measurements , but I feel like I have better battery life with respect to the previous versions.
my test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523718&page=310
fwood can you post a link to the battery you bought for the test
http://www.batteryupgrade.it/search.php#/shopGroupId/28243801
surely isn't a amazing batery but..it coast no too much!!
muzip said:
I'd replaced the original battery with an unofficial replacement, since the original was nearly dead (1 days). This one lasts about 3 days with the new EVO 3.0 ROM.
I haven't done any real measurements , but I feel like I have better battery life with respect to the previous versions.
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Please provide a link to where you purchased the battery. What was your usage level like during those 3 days?
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Please provide a link to where you purchased the battery. What was your usage level like during those 3 days?
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I gave the direct link of the product, but probably it expires when I abandoned the site! you have to find the product "S620" on search box
for me everything is fine I'm using the original battery, 3VO ROM with Arabic for WM6.5, many tasks opened most of time and the battery is just fine and hold for 2 or more days..
How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
Thanks in Advance
I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
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I get about two days between charges on mine. I get a decent amount of usage on a daily basis between email, Facebook, and candy crush. I even have Google Now running. How many charge cycles have you been through?
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
No battery problems here. I wouldn't blame charge cycles, if they have any effect at all, it is minor. If I were you, I would do a factory reset, followed by an exchange if the reset doesn't fix it.
I have smart stay on , backlight on auto, and take no extra precautions for battery savings.
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How is everyone finding the battery life. Personally, I am finding it just plain horrible. I'm not sure what the issue is specifically but either something is draining it or it is just really that bad, in which case I will return it. I can't get a day's worth of moderate use out of it. It seems to be at most half of what I get from my note 10.1 and they aren't set up any differently. I've tried some of the basics like turning down the screen brightness (which annoys me), turning off the smart stay (but why have a feature you can't use), tweaking email checking settings, turning off samsung sync, turning off bluetooth (don't use it), and locations services. Is anyone else seeing this as an issue and does anyone have any additional suggestions for me to try?
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Can you please post some screen shots of your battery life at the end of a typical cycle? It will help with comparisons by giving us more details on your running apps, screen-on display times, etc. Also, what wakelocks do you have? Use BetterBatteryStats or Wakelock Detector from the Play store for that. This info might help us to identify just how much drain is related to rogue apps or the general battery life itself.
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Thanks. Just downloaded BetterBatteryStatus. I'll let it run for a bit and see what comes up. I'll post what I came up with with screen shots from it. Thanks for pointing me in a direction.
Also, it'd help to know how many hours "just plain horrible" is.
I'm not delighted by the battery life I'm seeing, I'm finding I want to charge every night, and that I can easily consume 15% / hour or more even without the screen turned up past 20-25%. (watching video off the NAS in the house.)
Then again, this is the first LCD display I've been able to read in full sunlight, and that's remarkable to me. I often wind up with full sun in the morning when I get up, and am delighted that if I did charge overnight I can use the device even then.
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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If by charge cycles you mean fully discharging the phone until it shuts off, I haven't done that, but could give it a shot. It has gone down to 10% several times though.
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10% is just fine, for purposes of calibrating the battery meter. Preferable actually. You shouldn't actually drain the device until shutdown. There are safeguards that are supposed to ensure the battery voltage does not drop too low (its not actually zero when the phone shuts down). However, in reality these safeguards are not always failsafe and I've seen plenty of cases on various Android devices where letting the battery drain to shutoff renders the battery unable to take a charge (below the minimum threshold voltage). Sometimes, letting the battery charge overnight will bring the battery back. Otherwise, you are pretty screwed, as the only remedy would be a battery meter with a boost function.
In any case, the battery meter is not very accurate, even under the best of circumstances, so letting it drain to 10% is plenty accurate enough. Then let it charge to 100%, and let it sit at full for a while, as fully saturating the battery takes extra time.
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That said, its hard to say what "moderate use" means. Everyone uses their devices differently. If you are playing intensive games, downloading files, heavy internet usage, it can drain the battery much faster than other activities. And the number of hours of screen-on time is key. So the idea of getting some battery stats and screenshots, is a good one.
I haven't been tracking screen-on time myself. But I find the battery to be decent. I use it a good amount in the evening (don't bring it to work) mostly for reading and web browsing. I have brightness on 40-50% usually (sometimes less, if the room is darker). The battery was just under 40% after 2 nights of use (maybe 40 hours after the last charge). Just guessing, but maybe 3 or 4 hours of screen on time?
Some online reviews mentioned the battery life is not as good as some other comparable devices (such as Nexus 7 and iPad Mini). Not surprising, since the Note 8 has a faster processor and higher resolution screen than either. And so far, battery life is not amazing, but seems comparable or better (better drain while idle) than my old HTC Flyer tablet. So for me, thats just fine.
I got about 4 hours screen-on time on my first battery cycle with heavy usage. Was playing games, movies, internet browsing, etc. My second and third cycles were better, giving me 5-6 hours screen-on time with moderate to heavy usage. Didn't really play any movies, but did play a fair amount of games and stuff.
On those later cycles my screen-on drain represented about 85% of my overall drain. This leads me to say that you can expect 4.5-6.5 hours of screen-on time with the Note 8, depending on usage. Keep in mind that I keep wifi always on, disabled bluetooth/auto-sync/smart stay, stopped some running apps like Maps and Factory Test, and kept brightness down to about 15% of the max setting.
Screen is definitely the big drain here, and these results lead me to believe that even with root and apps like Greenify I would not get much better results. Looks like any further battery savings will need to come from a custom kernel and custom rom (unless maybe you root and then underclock/undervolt using a third party app like Voltage Control or SetCpu). Anyone else have similar (or different ) results?
mingkee said:
The battery needs some initial "training".
Charge fully on the first and run it all the way down to nearly zero, and fully charge again.
DO NOT interrupt the initial charge.
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dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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:what:...XDA is for fun and for sharing; not for putting others down. Please be a little more respectful towards forum users when you post in the future. If you disagree with something then just explain so we can all learn together.
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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While his terminology might have been a bit clumsy, he is not completely incorrect.
The terminology of "training the battery" invokes the concepts of conditioning the old technology NiCad batteries to prevent memory effects, which are not a concern with Li ion batteries, which is what you seem to be referring to. Folks on XDA will often talk about conditioning or calibrating the battery, which can be a bit misleading (as often they have the behavior of the old NiCad batteries in mind when saying this).
However, it is true that the battery meter needs to be calibrated to be completely accurate. This calibration has no chemical effect on the battery itself (like it does with NiCad batteries) but simply effects how the current readings are displayed by the % battery meter on the device's screen. Without fully charging and draining the device, it doesn't have fully accurate "flags" associated the current to battery %.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
Failure to calibrate the meter won't have a negative chemical effect, like failure to periodically condition a NiCad battery. And therefore it won't have an affect on the battery life. But properly calibrating will give you the most accurate % battery reading possible. The battery meter is not accurate out of the box, after a ROM flash, and an OTA may also reset the calibration.
As I've already mentioned in a previous response, I don't recommend draining the battery to shutoff. As doing so can lead to the battery no longer taking a charge, and the device no longer powering on. Its rare, but it does happen. Fully changing, then draining to 10% or so is enough. Full cycles are also not good for the long term life of the battery, although just doing it once every few months is still acceptable.
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kisrita said:
I am assuming the Note 8 has a lithium based battery. I couldn't confirm it though. The below link has some tips for how to care for different type of batteries. Useful reading.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/how-and-when-to-charge-your-tablet-battery/814
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Pretty good link, thanks. And reinforces what I just said above.
Most any smartphone or tablet made in the past several years uses a Li ion battery. This confirms it: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_8_0_n5100-5252.php
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hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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The charger for the Note 8 is 2 Amps, while most MicroUSB chargers (at least for phones and other small devices) are 1 Amp. Although this varies, and there are other tablet chargers that are also 2 Amps; but these are far less common than phone charges that just about anyone with a phone that isn't Apple will have.
What this means is that the 1 Amp charger will charge the Note 8 very slowly. I tried mine on a 1 Amp charger just once so far. Left it on for maybe an hour, and the charge only increased by a few percent.
So yes, you can charge with most MicroUSB chargers in a pinch. But it will be slow.
hertsjoatmon said:
Although the battery life is of concern to me, the fact it charges via a micro USB input rather than propriatry cable alieviates that worry (looking at you Apple). I dont think I go anywhere where there isnt a charger available thanks to the amount of devices that use them.
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Don't get the physical plug of a charger confuse you - I believe this tablet needs a 2amp output from the charger, meaning just because your charger has the same end connection, it won't necessarily help you charge this battery. I've had my users come to me thinking their devices are defective because they somehow started charging their tablet with their Bluetooth headset charger.
Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens that Samsung has used on other devices.
I'm really still on the fence on keeping it after I bought this - I'm coming from a GT 7.7 which had excellent build quality,screen, and battery life. The loss of the AMOLED screen for both graphics and battery efficiency is bothering me. I put both up side by side and feel disappointed that Samsung couldn't just make a JB updated 7.7 with new CPU, 2GB RAM, and stylus with the same design and beautiful Super AMOLED Plus screen. It's not even the price - but just feeling like I'm getting a somewhat inferior device (in a few but important aspects) from the 7.7, when it's supposed to be an upgrade to the older device.
I've seen the news about an upgrade to the 7.7 possibly coming, but will it come with the stylus that is also important to me and the other software enhancements from the Note 8?
Bagbug said:
dumbest thing wrote in this thread probably. You do not need to train or do a full charge. How come people still believe that nonsense in 2013 ??
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Funny thing happened on mine.
The battery was VERY BAD the second day, but it could play live streaming for two hours when the battery was 1%. As soon as the tablet went off due to depleted battery, I charged it until it went all the way until the "full battery" came up.
After that, the battery is much better now, so don't say anything "dumb" or any nonsense because it works.
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Someone also mentioned the black wallpaper that might help with the battery consumption - I believe that is only helpful on AMOLED screens
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That is correct, having a black background does not effect battery life on LCD screens.
On AMOLED screens, black pixels are actually not emitting light (while pixels displaying other colors emit light), which is why a black background will cause less battery drain than other colors.
On an LCD, the liquid crystal layer that depicts the colors is not itself a source of light. Its lit from the back, and the light intensity of the backlight is the same regardless of what color is being displayed. How much light is blocked or let though by the liquid crystal layer varies depending on their alignment (what color is being displayed). But this doesn't affect how bright the backlight is, anymore than pulling a window blind makes the sun burn less hydrogen.
Speedy Gonzalez said:
Battery life is great here after 5 cycles running it to 1% and recharging full at first it was draining faster but now I can watch 4 hours of netflix and still have 25% left nice thing is that the battery charges superfast so no worries
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Only four hours? My Nexus 7 averages about 10.5 hours of Netflix with 10% left. I wonder how other note 8's compare?
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Does anyone know of a better battery that will work with the zl.
As we all know this phone really suffers from poor battery life and overheating. I've managed to solve the overheating problem by flashing miui v5 and have it undervolted @ 987mv @ 1512mhz with doomkernel and kernel tuner, the phone is very cool now compared to before. However battery life is still dissappointing lasting only 10 hours a day dropping 10% every hour with light/moderate usage. Onscreen time it will die within 3 hours
So I wanna open it up and put a better battery so I can use a different rom cos miui is very restricted imo. xposed framework doesnt really work well with it.
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Does anyone know of a better battery that will work with the zl.
As we all know this phone really suffers from poor battery life and overheating. I've managed to solve the overheating problem by flashing miui v5 and have it undervolted @ 987mv @ 1512mhz with doomkernel and kernel tuner, the phone is very cool now compared to before. However battery life is still dissappointing lasting only 10 hours a day dropping 10% every hour with light/moderate usage. Onscreen time it will die within 3 hours
So I wanna open it up and put a better battery so I can use a different rom cos miui is very restricted imo. xposed framework doesnt really work well with it.
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Stock firmware gives me 4,5 hour screentime MINIMUM! So its NOT as we all know. It's your phone and your apps. Mine lasts a good day with more then moderate/light use. 13 hours with 75% left at the moment and 1 hour 10 min. screentime. Wifi always on. When out of house, 4G/LTE always on. NFC constantly on. So its you. Not your phone.
22,5 hour on single charge. 4,5 hour screen time. 8% left. I can't see your problem.
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Yes you are correct, Im using paranoid rom and battery life has improved a lot. I also found that heavy undervolting uses more battery life. I'm new to android so didn't know this. What roms are you guys using exactly?
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So? is there any after market battery?
heres my battery life, can someone help me?
I get around 15 hours with the stock rom. I switched to existenz but i havent tested it yet.
And i really want to change the bat.
If there was a way to put a LiPo 3000mah in this thing...
aliexpress.com
You can buy new battery for xperial ZL from aliexpress.com. Not many vendors though, but its pretty cheap.
I ordered mine and it reached from China to India safely in around 1 month. Seems good and genuine, but have not tried it yet. As others have said, it may not be a problem with the battery at all and changing battery wont do any good. Check if its really a battery problem or not.
givemered said:
You can buy new battery for xperial ZL from aliexpress.com. Not many vendors though, but its pretty cheap.
I ordered mine and it reached from China to India safely in around 1 month. Seems good and genuine, but have not tried it yet. As others have said, it may not be a problem with the battery at all and changing battery wont do any good. Check if its really a battery problem or not.
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i also ordered one from ebay it says made in japan now its working smooth and giving me extra 3-4 hours of battery life
after three years of extensive usage, my battery has now reached the end if its life. It now dies at around 30%- 40%. I tried battery calibration but it works only once. after a full 100-0% run, the next run dies at the same 30- 40% level. I have been monitoring voltage via ampere app. when it reaches 30- 40 % range, the voltage drops significantly from 3.5 to 3.2 and below and shut off abruptly. also, now during heavy usage, battery temp goes up to 50 C.
Does this mean the battery is completely worn out? or something else may also be bad?
anybody else with 2-3 years of use notice the same?
and if the battery is at fault here, can someone suggest me a link where can i buy one?
control freak said:
after three years of extensive usage, my battery has now reached the end if its life. It now dies at around 30%- 40%. I tried battery calibration but it works only once. after a full 100-0% run, the next run dies at the same 30- 40% level. I have been monitoring voltage via ampere app. when it reaches 30- 40 % range, the voltage drops significantly from 3.5 to 3.2 and below and shut off abruptly. also, now during heavy usage, battery temp goes up to 50 C.
Does this mean the battery is completely worn out? or something else may also be bad?
anybody else with 2-3 years of use notice the same?
and if the battery is at fault here, can someone suggest me a link where can i buy one?
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Same here, phone shuts down around 40% and whats worse is that the battery has deformed and pushed motherboard up causing a lot of problems. My ZL USB port short circuited blowing smoke and now won't boot up at all. Tested the battery and got voltage around 2.8V, which means safety triggers won't let me charge it
Title. H810 no root.
I'm aware the battery life on this one is not really good. That in mind.
-Example, (nothing running on background, everything but wifi off) using it normally until 14%. Pushed sleep button.
-Turn screen on like 5 mins after and it was 15%, used it a bit then again screen off.
-Turned screen on about 6 minutes later and it was 5%.
-Drained it to supposedly 1% then phone turned itself off.
-Turned phone on again and it was 2% and stayed like that for 10 mins while scrolling twitter with 30% brightness, until it turned itself off again and this time battery is to low to turn on.
Tried factory reset, draining till absolute 0% then 100% multiple times but so far nothing works.
Battery's health is good and factory original, no water, no heavy drops.
Let's say i root it (as far as i know its possible in all models), question:
Is there a way to push battery stats to make battery readings accurate?
Or what do you suggest? thanks.
lRaziel1 said:
Title. H810 no root.
I'm aware the battery life on this one is not really good. That in mind.
-Example, (nothing running on background, everything but wifi off) using it normally until 14%. Pushed sleep button.
-Turn screen on like 5 mins after and it was 15%, used it a bit then again screen off.
-Turned screen on about 6 minutes later and it was 5%.
-Drained it to supposedly 1% then phone turned itself off.
-Turned phone on again and it was 2% and stayed like that for 10 mins while scrolling twitter with 30% brightness, until it turned itself off again and this time battery is to low to turn on.
Tried factory reset, draining till absolute 0% then 100% multiple times but so far nothing works.
Battery's health is good and factory original, no water, no heavy drops.
Let's say i root it (as far as i know its possible in all models), question:
Is there a way to push battery stats to make battery readings accurate?
Or what do you suggest? thanks.
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Hi,
What you have is normal.
My owen device jumps frpn 12% to 15% after heavy and log use, thats normal, cause battery is cooling down/pre-ucomputed Energy is not consumed and Battery is calculated new.
The other Jump from 15 to 5 thats somthing you should watch closer. did that happen often?
all in all I have a sugestion but answer this first.
How old is Battery and usage time? (heavy or Soft? SOT? and so one)
Battery readings denpend on the Kernel. You are Stock i think?
Titan Kernel gave me awesome Display Sdreen on Times but battery is jumping too.
uweork said:
Hi,
What you have is normal.
My owen device jumps frpn 12% to 15% after heavy and log use, thats normal, cause battery is cooling down/pre-ucomputed Energy is not consumed and Battery is calculated new.
The other Jump from 15 to 5 thats somthing you should watch closer. did that happen often?
all in all I have a sugestion but answer this first.
How old is Battery and usage time? (heavy or Soft? SOT? and so one)
Battery readings denpend on the Kernel. You are Stock i think?
Titan Kernel gave me awesome Display Sdreen on Times but battery is jumping too.
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Thanks for replying!
Well thats one solved, it wasnt a sudden jump but rather a few minutes discharge doing nothing at all.
Battery is as old as the phone, 2015 and usage, i dont know for sure since it's an import US carrier phone sold to me locally, seems like it was a test phone like the ones you can try at stores. I would say battery use isnt any different than it would be in a daily usage and even if not, would be very rare for a li-ion battery to degrade in such a small amount of time. Gonna ask the seller.
Another thing i notice is very fast battery drain while playing music. I listen to music from home to work, like a 1 hour trip and when i got of home with 81% when i get to my job im at 68%.
And yeah stock everything with android 6.0, as i said currently not even rooted.
lRaziel1 said:
Thanks for replying!
Well thats one solved, it wasnt a sudden jump but rather a few minutes discharge doing nothing at all.
Battery is as old as the phone, 2015 and usage, i dont know for sure since it's an import US carrier phone sold to me locally, seems like it was a test phone like the ones you can try at stores. I would say battery use isnt any different than it would be in a daily usage and even if not, would be very rare for a li-ion battery to degrade in such a small amount of time. Gonna ask the seller.
Another thing i notice is very fast battery drain while playing music. I listen to music from home to work, like a 1 hour trip and when i got of home with 81% when i get to my job im at 68%.
And yeah stock everything with android 6.0, as i said currently not even rooted.
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Sounds as if the Battery has some Altered Issues. How Often do you charge?
with Music You meen Mp3 or stream? (stream drain battery much faster)
Try custom Rom and titan kernel if u dont need stock services, otherwise rootand use greenify or other.
on Stock i Had SoT of 2 hours max. now i am back to 3 Hoeurs (i´m heavy user some days...)
uweork said:
Sounds as if the Battery has some Altered Issues. How Often do you charge?
with Music You meen Mp3 or stream? (stream drain battery much faster)
Try custom Rom and titan kernel if u dont need stock services, otherwise rootand use greenify or other.
on Stock i Had SoT of 2 hours max. now i am back to 3 Hoeurs (i´m heavy user some days...)
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Already using greenify. Charging 2 times a day, 1 before going to work, 1 when i come back, plugged while using it.
MP3 from stock music app, since i read somewhere a 3rd party music app caused an user a battery drain-
H810 has locked bootloader, do you know any flash tool?
lRaziel1 said:
Already using greenify. Charging 2 times a day, 1 before going to work, 1 when i come back, plugged while using it.
MP3 from stock music app, since i read somewhere a 3rd party music app caused an user a battery drain-
H810 has locked bootloader, do you know any flash tool?
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Greenify is much better with Root
first you must unlock your Bootloader.
there are 2 Otions at the moment. Official (don´t know if possible for H810) and USU by @steadfasterX
for second:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-unlock-lg-g4-device-usu-t3760451
read and choose for yourself if that is what you want
Just by a new battery. Original battery can be found for about 8$ at least here in Sweden..
I believe this is normal.
My H815 had it with both the original and a new battery. It used to be really bad when you charged it to 100%, restarted and it would drop immediately to 80%.
Also, especially on stock LG stuff (the graph on custom ROMs seems to be smoothed out), the battery graph was a mess of random spikes and dips
Hi k have a xt1635-05 running the latest retail firmware on 8.0
I will upload some screen shots later after work but the battery life is dismal. Whether it was rooted or not.
It is now running magisk 19.4.
The problem is it seems the phone is using power for mobile standby as the biggest user.
Hopefully some screenshots will show what I'm up against. Was going to use xpe13 but want Moto mod functionality atm as the latest xpe 13 doesn't detect my inspico battery.
Cheers
Screenshots to follow later after work
Well downgraded to 7.0 stock at the moment and no real improvement so I'm starting to think it's the battery in the device that just isn't holding charge much nowadays. Charges to 100% fairly well but it just all depletes within about 10 hours.
Shame I have to remove the bloody screen to change the battery
Last night with sim card in and wifi on
Jcth1 said:
Last night with sim card in and wifi on
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You could try installing the AccuBattery app from the play store. It'll estimate the total capacity in mAh that the battery can still hold after a few charges.
I normally use accubattery and was going to install that next. Will report back with results in about a week
Battery drain and charging with Moto turbo charger and my first day with accubattery on this device.
What other apps can I use to see if I can find what's causing this kind of drain??
Tbh it all looks the same on 8.0 as well which leads me to believe maybe the battery is shot and although chargers to 100 fairly easily (old nexus 6p struggled past 80% and took over an hour to get to 100 from 80) this just screams that the battery needs replacing like my axon 7 needed.
Any thoughts??
How do I upload what processes are running etc from terminal? I can root it again if needs be