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[Q] Xperia Play Beginners guide?

Hey guys! I'm picking up an Xperia Play in a couple of days and was looking for some general advice about the phone. This will be my first Android device, I've been on WebOS/Garnet for my last two phones. I'm just a little overwhelmed with the options presented by the Play and Android in general. For instance, I'm not sure if I should root my phone or not - what are the advantages?
Any other general guides to Android/the Play would be wonderful if any such guides exist. I'm looking to deck this thing out with every emulator on the market as well as get the PSXperia hack up and running (I've downloaded the program, but can't figure out how to use it).
You can sense my overall noobishness in general, I'm sure. Any advice or tips about this device would be great. I'm really excited about the Play and getting comfortable with Android. Thanks everybody!

kershner25 said:
Hey guys! I'm picking up an Xperia Play in a couple of days and was looking for some general advice about the phone. This will be my first Android device, I've been on WebOS/Garnet for my last two phones. I'm just a little overwhelmed with the options presented by the Play and Android in general. For instance, I'm not sure if I should root my phone or not - what are the advantages?
Any other general guides to Android/the Play would be wonderful if any such guides exist. I'm looking to deck this thing out with every emulator on the market as well as get the PSXperia hack up and running (I've downloaded the program, but can't figure out how to use it).
You can sense my overall noobishness in general, I'm sure. Any advice or tips about this device would be great. I'm really excited about the Play and getting comfortable with Android. Thanks everybody!
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congratz im waiting for mine is the mail right now lol
rooting allows you to have full access to the file system sorta like a administrator
on a windows machine since out the box you cant edit files or remove bloatware without root you cant install certain programs from the market without root
also having root and unlocked bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery image which will allow you to flash customs roms(a custom version of android dev by a user here on xda or anywhere in general)
yes i highly recommend but if you ever plan on returning the phone to verzion for example you will have to revert it back to stock
and for the program psxperia you need to install the latest version of java from java.com
and if your on a windows machine you double click the psxperiatool.JAR file
and it should run not sure on OSX
in the end you made a good choice on choosing android as mainstream as it became its still a powerful system way better IMO than ios or even webos
since android has so many developers theres gonna be an endless amount of programs
will post new finds myself etc

edokassiah said:
and unlocked bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery image which will allow you to flash customs roms(a custom version of android dev by a user here on xda or anywhere in general)
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You cannot flash the recovery image directly or you will mess up boot partition, you need to flash a kernel with embedded recovery built in

Thanks for the info. I'm confused about the locked/unlocked bootloaders. How do I know which one I'll have? And how "easy" of a process is rooting the phone if I don't plan to install any custom roms or anything?
Also, how does transferring .apk files from my PC to the device work?

kershner25 said:
Thanks for the info. I'm confused about the locked/unlocked bootloaders. How do I know which one I'll have? And how "easy" of a process is rooting the phone if I don't plan to install any custom roms or anything?
Also, how does transferring .apk files from my PC to the device work?
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If you havent unlocked your bootloader yourself it is locked there are many risks and advantages to unlocking your bootloader, but if you dont intend to flash custom roms there really is no need, just like with root, if you dont know what it is, you probably wont need it
transfering .apk's from your pc is easy, just copy the .apk to your sd card, then use a file manager to find the .apk, tap on it and the installer will pop up , you need to tick unknown sources in settings though

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176367

AndroHero said:
You cannot flash the recovery image directly or you will mess up boot partition, you need to flash a kernel with embedded recovery built in
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hes asking about android in general not aiming specifically at the xperia play

If I root my phone, do I have to switch everything back in order to get updates? All I really want to root my phone for would be to remove bloatware/speed it up a bit, is there a better way than rooting?

There is plenty of tutorials here, I suggest that you read, read, and then......read some more

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176367
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Thanks so much for this link, it's seriously going to help me while rooting my phone. This might be a dumb question, but bear with me - better safe than a bricked phone. The guide to rooting in that link says that I need to flash my Play to the .184 Generic UK firmware...am I understanding it correctly that I need flash this firmware onto my American Verizon Play? I want to make sure nothing is going to get screwed up regionally, as I'm going to want to keep getting OTA updates and all that.

Just to share my own experiences since I'm new to the Xperia Play (previously had an Acer Liquid.. crappy hardware but great community of devs.. anyways..)
I'd recommend rooting your phone off the bat - the simple reason is rooting will involve wiping your phone's data, so if you already have a few months of use that means having to restore everything which is tiresome. First thing when my phone arrived was follow the rooting guide here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
After that however I wouldn't recommend messing around TOO much with custom firmwares and such etc.. get used to the phone as it is and figure out what you like, don't like. if your like me within a few weeks or months you'll want something new - this is when you might want to start looking at messing around with the phone - new home launchers or even a new ROM (if your phone can have it's boot loader unlocked, from what I understand mine can't). The games and Emulators should keep you busy as is
The only customizing I've done to my phone is rooting it with Gingerbreak and using the leaked Sony Launcher.

I realize this is a pretty nooby thing to do that annoys all the veterans, but I consider this to be a fairly crucial piece of information I need before I attempt to root my phone, so I'm just gonna go ahead and bump this thing before it gets lost in the shuffle.
In order to root with a locked bootloader on an American Verizon XPlay, I need to flash to the .184 generic UK firmware, then root, then OTA update, correct?

kershner25 said:
I realize this is a pretty nooby thing to do that annoys all the veterans, but I consider this to be a fairly crucial piece of information I need before I attempt to root my phone, so I'm just gonna go ahead and bump this thing before it gets lost in the shuffle.
In order to root with a locked bootloader on an American Verizon XPlay, I need to flash to the .184 generic UK firmware, then root, then OTA update, correct?
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No. That method will not work on the r800x (verizon xplay) to root yours you will need to see [How-to] R800x Root
Dont worry about annoying people lol . Who cares what others think? Everyone has to start somewhere.
But it would be better with a stickied thread for new users to look @.

So now, instead of the 3 step process linked previously in this thread, I have to unlock the bootloader and do a whole bunch of other stuff? This method is like 100x more complicated. Is there no other way? I don't intend to install any custom roms, I strictly want to root solely for freezing bloatware.

No i dont think so. You would be better asking for help from other r800x owners in that thread.
The exploit gingerbreak uses on 2.3.2 was patched in 2.3.3 (worldwide) and was also patched by verizon before they released the handset on 2.3.2. Up untill the bootloader was unlocked on the r800x rooting was not possible.
Ask in that thread and you should recieve the help/info you are after.

hiya mate right ive rooted and put on custom recovery but now its screwed up my cam , wifi , and the market so be warned im trying to fix this problem as we speak
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im new to this to really but having a play with no cam and no wifi and no market. the market is there but cant dwnload nothing is taking the piss can anyone help me please

Mozza2k11 said:
But it would be better with a stickied thread for new users to look @.
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There is one already stickied in the Q&A section.That it has gone practically unnoticed counters this statement.

kershner25 said:
Thanks so much for this link, it's seriously going to help me while rooting my phone. This might be a dumb question, but bear with me - better safe than a bricked phone. The guide to rooting in that link says that I need to flash my Play to the .184 Generic UK firmware...am I understanding it correctly that I need flash this firmware onto my American Verizon Play? I want to make sure nothing is going to get screwed up regionally, as I'm going to want to keep getting OTA updates and all that.
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Their is not such thing as a bricked phone
always is a way to fix it and usually its as simple as flashing a FTF
or whatever stock rom your device uses takes like 5 minutes tops lol
and logsemans guides will tell you anything you need to know
just use them for refrence
Xperia Play Super Compilation (Q&A Sticky)
and if you head down the path of rooting and stuff
messing with files
you wont be able to get ota updates lol.
it will "brick you"

I recentally made a quick video with tips for android users/beginners if you want to watch it. Thought it would help people. http://youtu.be/Pd5DerUoEcY

[Q] Want to install FreeXperia but unsure.

I'm seeing this in many different colors and I can't get this to gear up...
I already saw this thread HERE but it's for the Xperia X10...
Simply put, I want to have FreeXperia CM7 on my currently rooted Verizon CDMA Xperia Play R800x, but seeing all of this random stuff jumbled in the Development forum are driving me crazy... Before the Play, I had the LG Vortex, in which all you had to do was root the phone, and flash the All-In-One recovery for the Vortex through the terminal emulator from the market, and a friend of mine was using ROM Manager on his phone and the Xperia Play isn't even supported. Everything just doesn't seem like a "One-Click" and go anymore. Can anyone just lead me to the right files and direction to match my phone please?
Here is exactly what's on my About Phone menu.
Model Number: R800x
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: 7X30A-AAABQMAZM-1290_10-03
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build Number: 3.0.1.E.0.88
EDIT: I'm also using Ubuntu Linux, not Windows, if that can help.

Me to don't no what to do
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You need to unlock your bootloader and install the clockworkmod recovery partition. After you have CWM you can install custom roms. The bootloader unlock is done by a user here called Alejandrissimo, for 24 dollars US. Do a search for his username and send a pm.
Sent from the best phone ever

captain67 said:
You need to unlock your bootloader and install the clockworkmod recovery partition. After you have CWM you can install custom roms. The bootloader unlock is done by a user here called Alejandrissimo, for 24 dollars US. Do a search for his username and send a pm.
Sent from the best phone ever
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That's a bit expensive for just installing a recovery isn't it? If that's the only possible way, then I'll look into it.

You're not paying for the installation of recovery - you're paying to enable fastboot and unlock the bootloader on your r800x. I see you've come from a different manufacturer's device so here's my first tip of advice to you - forget everything you've learned about modding Android in the past. Sounds a little harsh, right? Well....
You need to understand that all carrier branded / sim locked Xperia Plays come with fastboot disabled. Because fastboot is disabled you cannot unlock your bootloader even using the Sony Ericsson approved bootloader unlocking method. So, you're probably thinking "great, now what?" Well, that's where Alejandrissimo comes into play....
There is a utility called SEtool that has the ability to interface with Xperia phones and enable fastboot, unlock the SIM and unlock the bootloader. There are two catches though. SEtool only works with the use of a proprietary USB hardware dongle and the SEtool user must purchase "unlock credits" in order to use the software. I'm dead serious.
So, Alejandrissimo (and another user by the name of Jinx13) actually has the dongle and can purchase unlock credits. In a nutshell, what happens is you send a PM to Alejandrissimo, setup a time so that he can remote control your computer, install some software onto your machine that allows for the use of the USB dongle over network (how else would you be able to use a hardware dongle you don't have?) and remote control of your machine..... kick back and let Alejandrissimo drive. You can see everything he's doing and he gives you some very simple instructions you need to follow to get the job done (it involves using a wire to create a bridge between a testpoint and a ground point on your phone and clicking on stuff when he tells you to).
Alejandrissimo is a very nice and patient person who has gained the trust of many people here at XDA so you can rest assured you'll receive excellent service from him.
You need to do some research for yourself so you understand the process though. visit his thread HERE.
So, once you get fastboot enabled and the bootloader on your phone unlocked you'll be ready to run ClockworkMod Recovery for your Play. From there, you'll be able to flash the CM7 kernel, the CM7 ROM and Google Apps.
I guess what I'm trying to say is forget everything you learned about modding Android cause it just isn't the same when dealing with Xperia devices.
Good luck.

I agree, Xperia models are nothing like the rest. I found it VERY confusing at first since all my previous experience was from the very first Samsung Galaxy (i7500).
Unfortunately, Android's wide variety of manufacturers and versions causes some inconsistencies.. it gives us a learning curve when switching devices, but the overall freedom is worth it, compared to closed source OS's like iOS and Blackberry.
The best thing you can do is read, then read some more.. These forums are an enormous bank of knowledge. You just need to know where to look, and who to ask.
Sent from the best phone ever

Okay, that all makes sense. Thank you!

So, in 2016, is there still no root for my Samsung Verizon Note 4?

I just managed to get this device from someone the other day. Having been an iphone 5c user for a while, going to a 5c after my last frustrating and horrible android experience with an HTC inspire device, I am back on android for the storage expansion so that I can play emulator games- only to find myself pulling my hair out ONCE AGAIN after all the numerous conflicting advice/ threads/tutorials out here which I have countless wasted hours on already. I don't have time to read through tutorials promising a downgrade from lollipop to kit kat, in hopes of a root so I can pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my device... constantly stuck on odin failing and what have you, so just give it to me dry and clean. Please help as this is extremely frustrating and annoying.
Can I or can I not root this device? if so How? ( please provide detailed instructions as i don't know what the lingo is around here) If not i'm putting this thing right back on craigslist where I got it from. I am running 5.0.1
All I want to do is pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my note 4, thought I would be able to do that until sixaxis said it needed 'root access' :silly:
if theres a way to circumvent this, please let me know. I do NOT WANT to use a corded controller with this. Battery life is already kinda sucky on this phone so i'll ened to charge the device as i'm playing

Sunaj1 said:
I just managed to get this device from someone the other day. Having been an iphone 5c user for a while, going to a 5c after my last frustrating and horrible android experience with an HTC inspire device, I am back on android for the storage expansion so that I can play emulator games- only to find myself pulling my hair out ONCE AGAIN after all the numerous conflicting advice/ threads/tutorials out here which I have countless wasted hours on already. I don't have time to read through tutorials promising a downgrade from lollipop to kit kat, in hopes of a root so I can pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my device... constantly stuck on odin failing and what have you, so just give it to me dry and clean. Please help as this is extremely frustrating and annoying.
Can I or can I not root this device? if so How? ( please provide detailed instructions as i don't know what the lingo is around here) If not i'm putting this thing right back on craigslist where I got it from. I am running 5.0.1
All I want to do is pair my ps3 controller wirelessly to my note 4, thought I would be able to do that until sixaxis said it needed 'root access' :silly:
if theres a way to circumvent this, please let me know. I do NOT WANT to use a corded controller with this. Battery life is already kinda sucky on this phone so i'll ened to charge the device as i'm playing
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Have not read enough, if you have a Verizon locked bootloader... Recommend to put it right away to Craigslist because no root has been found good luck

If you can deal with root on a temp basis, meaning it is lost every reboot, then go that route. Otherwise as EdrickMg stated, it is not available.

How do I know whether the bootloader is locked or not? I might want to buy an N910V, as its much cheaper than international/Indian version, but I need to make sure whether or not the bootloader is unlocked. Cause I can't even think about not rooting a phone in first one hour of purchase. What could I ask the seller to confirm about the bootloader?

If it's a Verizon Note 4, then the bootloader is locked. There is no permanent rooting method for this phone. People are still hopeful that there might be one coming, but I'm willing to bet that there'll never be a method to root it. This phone has been out since October of 2014, with no root method found. There is a temporary root method that will allow you to root your phone, but the next time you reboot, it's gone and your phone is re-locked. To me, that's a lot of effort for something that you lose whenever you reboot your phone, but that's just my opinion. Also, this temporary root is just root - it doesn't unlock your bootloader.
If you absolutely must have a rootable phone with unlocked bootloader, then look elsewhere.
The only thing that we do have is debloater, which is a method that allows us to turn off and block almost anything we want. For me, that's enough, because the only reason I'd want root is to uninstall all of the crap that comes with this phone. It doesn't get rid of the junk, it just turns it off and keeps it from running.
If you want root to be able to install an ad blocker or to install custom kernels and/or ROMs, you cannot do it on this phone and likely (in my opinion), never will be able to.

Okay, I don't understand all these contract things as we don't have them in our country, but Verizon Note 4 and N910V, they are different? If not, how come there is a custom ROM and kernel for the SM-N910V model? The phone does show a red screen where Verizon is written on it. I am not understanding this!

ithehappy said:
Okay, I don't understand all these contract things as we don't have them in our country, but Verizon Note 4 and N910V, they are different? If not, how come there is a custom ROM and kernel for the SM-N910V model? The phone does show a red screen where Verizon is written on it. I am not understanding this!
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There is a Verizon Note 4 Developers Edition that comes with an unlocked bootloader and it is rootable. I had to buy it straight from Samsung at full retail price. Totally worth it in my opinion. It is no longer available for sale on the Samsung site though

usmaak said:
If it's a Verizon Note 4, then the bootloader is locked. There is no permanent rooting method for this phone. People are still hopeful that there might be one coming, but I'm willing to bet that there'll never be a method to root it. This phone has been out since October of 2014, with no root method found. There is a temporary root method that will allow you to root your phone, but the next time you reboot, it's gone and your phone is re-locked. To me, that's a lot of effort for something that you lose whenever you reboot your phone, but that's just my opinion. Also, this temporary root is just root - it doesn't unlock your bootloader.
If you absolutely must have a rootable phone with unlocked bootloader, then look elsewhere.
The only thing that we do have is debloater, which is a method that allows us to turn off and block almost anything we want. For me, that's enough, because the only reason I'd want root is to uninstall all of the crap that comes with this phone. It doesn't get rid of the junk, it just turns it off and keeps it from running.
If you want root to be able to install an ad blocker or to install custom kernels and/or ROMs, you cannot do it on this phone and likely (in my opinion), never will be able to.
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I'm happy with a temp root, itll fit my purposes. Can you point me in that direction? and the debloaters direction?

yes sad, so sad that Permanent root was never fount! I am disappointed with Verizon over this......

DikStarrbuck said:
I'm happy with a temp root, itll fit my purposes. Can you point me in that direction? and the debloaters direction?
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It's all in topics in the forum. Easy to find if you look.
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RedsonRising said:
It's all in topics in the forum. Easy to find if you look.
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app
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Yea, theres SO much stuff in the forum, I honestly dunno what to look for. I'll keep at it, thanks

So what if u have a bootloader that starts with 15? I got 90% on kingoroot running a crap ton of random apps in the backgroundI thought I had it but bam root failed keep in mind I'm on marshmallow to anyone else get 90% are we really close or is it just a trick lol

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So what if u have a bootloader that starts with 15? I got 90% on kingoroot running a crap ton of random apps in the backgroundI thought I had it but bam root failed keep in mind I'm on marshmallow to anyone else get 90% are we really close or is it just a trick lol
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So your bootloader is unlocked already, correct? You need to have an unlocked bootloader and be running Lollipop, here's the thread that shows you how/what to do...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593
I used the instructions in that thread and didn't have any issues.

driguy said:
So your bootloader is unlocked already, correct? You need to have an unlocked bootloader and be running Lollipop, here's the thread that shows you how/what to do...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...asy-guide-how-to-root-verizon-galaxy-t3454593
I used the instructions in that thread and didn't have any issues.
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Thanks bud I'll try it tonight! I gone like 6 pages into Google trying to find something that works I got a little confused on the baseband version part. This is a silly question but if I have mine on
N910VVRU2CPF3 and use Odin and flash version: N910VVRU1ANJ5 it won't brick my device? And no my bootloader is not unlocked yet

custom_roms_epeptic said:
Thanks bud I'll try it tonight! I gone like 6 pages into Google trying to find something that works I got a little confused on the baseband version part. This is a silly question but if I have mine on
N910VVRU2CPF3 and use Odin and flash version: N910VVRU1ANJ5 it won't brick my device?
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You'll want to flash the N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar .md5 file in ODIN as that is the firmware that Lollipop expects/works on. I don't know what android version N910VVRU1ANJ5 firmware is for. Flashing N910VVRU1ANJ5 shouldn't brick your phone but you will need to have it on N910VVRU2BPA1 to install Lollipop and root.
Trust me, just follow the instructions in the post I previously linked. It's all laid out for you in what is pretty much the easiest way you can do it. As long as you do it in the order listed, with the files provided, it will work.

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You'll want to flash the N910VVRU2BPA1_N910VVZW2BPA1_N910VVRU2BPA1_HOME.tar .md5 file in ODIN as that is the firmware that Lollipop expects/works on. I don't know what android version N910VVRU1ANJ5 firmware is for. Flashing N910VVRU1ANJ5 shouldn't brick your phone but you will need to have it on N910VVRU2BPA1 to install Lollipop and root.
Trust me, just follow the instructions in the post I previously linked. It's all laid out for you in what is pretty much the easiest way you can do it. As long as you do it in the order listed, with the files provided, it will work.
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Nj5 was kitkat but I will flash the version you said I greatly appreciate it

Wait hold on my bootloader is locked will it still work? Sorry for the annoying questions I'm a little rusty cause I only get a new phone every 2 years so I barely ever root lol

Rooting this phone is pretty tricky and you may have to repeat the process a few times for it to work. Follow the guide custom_roms_epeptic posted, that's the one I used and even though it took me a couple hours to go from stock to Nseven, it did indeed work. I would recommend using the version of kingoroot found in the zip contained in that guide, I tried kingroot and the newest version of kingoroot and both got hung up at 90% or just didn't work at all.

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Wait hold on my bootloader is locked will it still work? Sorry for the annoying questions I'm a little rusty cause I only get a new phone every 2 years so I barely ever root lol
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Part of the steps you will be doing will be to unlock the bootloader, this is mandatory. If your CID starts with 15, you can change the CID of your device to that of a dev edition device, which can then have its bootloader unlocked. Like I said before, it's all laid out for you in the other thread.

driguy said:
Part of the steps you will be doing will be to unlock the bootloader, this is mandatory. If your CID starts with 15, you can change the CID of your device to that of a dev edition device, which can then have its bootloader unlocked. Like I said before, it's all laid out for you in the other thread.
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Okay so I FLash the downgrade and then unlock the bootloader
,? Yes?

Droid Turbo 2 Lets figure out how to get root

This thread is intended for the Droid Turbo 2. For the lucky Moto X Force owners, this thread shouldn't apply to you.
I think there are some brilliant minds lurking on this forum and I'm hoping there could be some research done to "encourage" the possibility of attaining root and boot loader access on our Droid Turbo 2 Devices.
My approach here is to establish a collection of "Zero Day Bugs". Security flaws found in our devices that would put our OS as risk. As far as I can tell, Google keeps a record database and the media likes to talk about zero-day discoveries. Of course these bugs need to be timely so zero-day flaws found in 2014 or early 2015 likely were patched with the launch of the DT2.
For example, below is a link to a Zero-Day exploit that elevates the privileges of an app. Can something like this be used? Who has the technical expertise to replicate such an exploit? This thread is to talk about these things.
http://perception-point.io/2016/01/...f-a-linux-kernel-vulnerability-cve-2016-0728/
Hopefully this will spur up some traction and help get us root and bootloader.
Exploit found for Turbo 2 that can grant root access
Given the widespread impact of this exploit, it is likely other device owners are going to try to implement this exploit as well. Please post here if you find any implementations for other devices as it may be usable for the Turbo 2.
It has been confirmed that Quadrooter can exploit the Turbo 2: http://www.zdnet.com/article/quadrooter-security-flaws-affect-over-900-million-android-phones/
Four vulnerabilities (CVE-2016-2059, CVE-2016-2504, CVE-2016-2503, CVE-2016-5340)
And just an FYI:
"ALLOW OEM UNLOCKING" DOES NOTHING ON THE DROID TURBO 2
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windraver said:
This thread is intended for the Droid Turbo 2. For the lucky Moto X Force owners, this thread shouldn't apply to you.
I think there are some brilliant minds lurking on this forum and I'm hoping there could be some research done to "encourage" the possibility of attaining root and boot loader access on our Droid Turbo 2 Devices.
My approach here is to establish a collection of "Zero Day Bugs". Security flaws found in our devices that would put our OS as risk. As far as I can tell, Google keeps a record database and the media likes to talk about zero-day discoveries. Of course these bugs need to be timely so zero-day flaws found in 2014 or early 2015 likely were patched with the launch of the DT2.
For example, below is a link to a Zero-Day exploit that elevates the privileges of an app. Can something like this be used? Who has the technical expertise to replicate such an exploit? This thread is to talk about these things.
http://perception-point.io/2016/01/...f-a-linux-kernel-vulnerability-cve-2016-0728/
Hopefully this will spur up some traction and help get us root and bootloader.
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Could be used on a Terminal Simulator and get the bootloader lock transistor to break safety.
But honestly, my first thought would be to force into QHSUSB_DLOAD and somehow inject all XT1580 stuff to get it recognized as such.

I have installed one-click root (I got it through another site, not from them) and it sometimes says failed to root, but other times, it goes through the process, says it's done and to reboot, but when rebooting it does not have root. I have tried running other apps, like King Root, or Root Genius, or half a dozen others to get it to root, after getting one-click to say it has rooted it. Not sure if this will help or not, and honestly, I'm to the point, I'm ready to give up and do something different. I WILL NEVER buy another Verizon phone, ever! I may not drop them as a carrier, but I wont be keeping their crappy locked junk.

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From what I understand, this thread is for brainstorming. Not ranting about how you didn't do your research.

not a rant
Techn0Luigi said:
From what I understand, this thread is for brainstorming. Not ranting about how you didn't do your research.
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That wasn't a rant about how I didn't do any research. IT was a what I did that might lead to someone having an idea of how it might help.
Don't be a jerk.

mr_verystock said:
Could be used on a Terminal Simulator and get the bootloader lock transistor to break safety.
But honestly, my first thought would be to force into QHSUSB_DLOAD and somehow inject all XT1580 stuff to get it recognized as such.
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Can you explain the QHSUSB_DLOAD more?

QHSUSB_DLOAD (Qualcomm High-Speed USB Download Mode)
Man... It's been a while. Haven't had fun with any of this.
The bootloader starts and checks everything. There are 3 stages of the bootloader. 1 starts TZ, 2 something else, by 3 everything is booted and then it loads fastboot. QHSUSB_DLOAD is baked into the hardware. If the bootloader file is missing (.sbn) or doesn't match magic key (.hex) then booting fails. Most of the stuff turn off except for the CPU (in this case, ARM Cortex A53 and A78) and communications (USB interface), and it is stuck at QHSUSB_DLOAD. From there, you can load anything raw into the phone. So you can bring over the partitions that is used to boot (so in this case, you may be able to bring over something that damages TZ transistor, thereby unlocking bootloader). What you bring over exactly for the bootloader unlock, it hasn't been discovered even with the original Moto X (2013). However, that's how root is done. Bring over the blocks of the OS that contains the root blocks, and the bootloader doesn't know a thing.
Bring over a valid .sbn and .hex file and forcing the phone CPU to reset would bring the phone back from the missing bootloader, and then fastboot loads, followed by the OS (if the Linux core is present, the boot sector there, but that's another topic).

They rooted the phone in China , they sell it rooted!! Here is the link
m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=521809261322&spm=0.0.0.0

mr_verystock said:
QHSUSB_DLOAD (Qualcomm High-Speed USB Download Mode)
Man... It's been a while. Haven't had fun with any of this.
The bootloader starts and checks everything. There are 3 stages of the bootloader. 1 starts TZ, 2 something else, by 3 everything is booted and then it loads fastboot. QHSUSB_DLOAD is baked into the hardware. If the bootloader file is missing (.sbn) or doesn't match magic key (.hex) then booting fails. Most of the stuff turn off except for the CPU (in this case, ARM Cortex A53 and A78) and communications (USB interface), and it is stuck at QHSUSB_DLOAD. From there, you can load anything raw into the phone. So you can bring over the partitions that is used to boot (so in this case, you may be able to bring over something that damages TZ transistor, thereby unlocking bootloader). What you bring over exactly for the bootloader unlock, it hasn't been discovered even with the original Moto X (2013). However, that's how root is done. Bring over the blocks of the OS that contains the root blocks, and the bootloader doesn't know a thing.
Bring over a valid .sbn and .hex file and forcing the phone CPU to reset would bring the phone back from the missing bootloader, and then fastboot loads, followed by the OS (if the Linux core is present, the boot sector there, but that's another topic).
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I'd like to see a Verizon phone rooted. That is the version I have and most in the U.S. have as well.
Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I finally updated my Turbo 2, losing hope on a root exploit.
Then I read this.
http arstechnica dot com/security/2016/06/godless-apps-some-found-in-google-play-root-90-of-android-phones (sorry, longtime lurker, just registered, can't post links)
It might lead to nothing, but maybe for those who haven't updated an exploit can be found with the godless apps?

The godless app is a hack that steals your data. If it did work, (which from what I understand it only works on 5.1 and below) you'd risk your personal and financial data being stolen and sold.

Alaadragonfire said:
They rooted the phone in China , they sell it rooted!! Here is the link
m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=521809261322&spm=0.0.0.0
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Any luck in contacting the seller on how it is rooted?

I'm sure they use stolen Lenovo/Motorola factory development "engineering" software which unlocks the bootloader. It's the same phone as the Moto X Force but with locked down bootloader.
There were similar Droid Turbo phones being sold with unlocked bootloader a year ago in China, months before the Sunshine exploit was found.

gizzardgulpe said:
I finally updated my Turbo 2, losing hope on a root exploit.
Then I read this.
http arstechnica dot com/security/2016/06/godless-apps-some-found-in-google-play-root-90-of-android-phones (sorry, longtime lurker, just registered, can't post links)
It might lead to nothing, but maybe for those who haven't updated an exploit can be found with the godless apps?
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I dont have my dt2 but link to one of the apps in case someone wants to try
https://apkpure.com/summer-flashlight/com.foresight.free.flashlight?hl=en

I'm usually just lurking here and grab Roms and exploits when they pop up, but I have something to add. Has anyone unlocked the developer settings? There's a toggle named 'oem unlocking' with a subtext of 'allow the bootloader to be unlocked'. Does this mean the bootloader can be unlocked? Last Verizon phone I had was a g3 and only way to gain a faux unlock was to use 'bump' to install twrp. Could this be possible with the turbo 2? I'm not a coder or anything, but just trying to add to the think tank here

This setting does nothing.

damkol said:
This setting does nothing.
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There really should be a sticky saying "ALLOW OEM UNLOCKING DOES NOTHING ON THE DT2"

Droid turbo 2
After spending countless hours trying to unlock my bootloader to root my phone I'm at an impasse I've been told the Verizon and at&t models arnt able to be unlocked I will keep trying to get around this to root and install custom roms if anyone has any tips

Rhydenallnight said:
After spending countless hours trying to unlock my bootloader to root my phone I'm at an impasse I've been told the Verizon and at&t models arnt able to be unlocked I will keep trying to get around this to root and install custom roms if anyone has any tips
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Crack the case, hook up some leads (microscope) and dump the memory for the boot loader is the only thing I can think of. Don't know if the that is even possible with that memory. It's probably integrated with other stuff.
Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk
Update: Oh yeah, it's encrypted. Guess that won't work.

Found something. Does anyone know if this vulnerability exists on the Droid Turbo 2?
CVE-2015-1805
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...itical-android-root-vulnerability-itbwcw.html
There is a proof of concept out there. Has anyone tried it?
https://github.com/dosomder/iovyroot

LG G Pad VK700 (Verizon LTE) - ROM options?

I'm sorry if I'm asking something that's been answered already - I've searched and have found some discussions of this model, some discussions of custom ROMs for other models, methods for rooting this model (which haven't worked for me (script fails at the last step)), but nothing outright stating what my options are for this tablet.
I inherited an LG tablet that was apparently sold through Verizon - it has a Verizon bootsplash and some custom Verizon carrier-installed apps. The hardware info in settings shows the model as "VK700" and the back of the device has "LG-VK700 | FCC ID: ZNFVK700" printed on it so I'm not sure if it's a G Pad 10.1 or something else.
I'm trying to see what's available to me in the way of custom ROMs without Verizon-installed apps (that are useless to me), future updates, etc. As I mentioned, I've tried numerous means of rooting (The LG one-click root method here, the "New root method for LG Devices" here, KingoROOT on my PC, and KingRoot on the device itself. None have successfully rooted the device according to a root-check app, so I'm not sure what I'm missing/doing wrong, or if it even matters. I was under the impression that one first needs root in order to flash a custom ROM but who knows if that's even relevant.
I suppose what I'm really trying to figure out is whether I'm stuck using this thing as it is or if there's something better I can put on it (Lineage? AOSP? Cyanogen? Not sure what's out there and I've not followed the Android dev scene that closely.) If there is something better, can someone make a recommendation and link me to a good, comprehensive and easy/straightforward guide to installing it? I would be most appreciative of your time and effort.
Thanks.

CelticWhisper said:
I'm sorry if I'm asking something that's been answered already - I've searched and have found some discussions of this model, some discussions of custom ROMs for other models, methods for rooting this model (which haven't worked for me (script fails at the last step)), but nothing outright stating what my options are for this tablet.
I inherited an LG tablet that was apparently sold through Verizon - it has a Verizon bootsplash and some custom Verizon carrier-installed apps. The hardware info in settings shows the model as "VK700" and the back of the device has "LG-VK700 | FCC ID: ZNFVK700" printed on it so I'm not sure if it's a G Pad 10.1 or something else.
I'm trying to see what's available to me in the way of custom ROMs without Verizon-installed apps (that are useless to me), future updates, etc. As I mentioned, I've tried numerous means of rooting (The LG one-click root method here, the "New root method for LG Devices" here, KingoROOT on my PC, and KingRoot on the device itself. None have successfully rooted the device according to a root-check app, so I'm not sure what I'm missing/doing wrong, or if it even matters. I was under the impression that one first needs root in order to flash a custom ROM but who knows if that's even relevant.
I suppose what I'm really trying to figure out is whether I'm stuck using this thing as it is or if there's something better I can put on it (Lineage? AOSP? Cyanogen? Not sure what's out there and I've not followed the Android dev scene that closely.) If there is something better, can someone make a recommendation and link me to a good, comprehensive and easy/straightforward guide to installing it? I would be most appreciative of your time and effort.
Thanks.
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what version of android are you on ?

williambright80 said:
what version of android are you on ?
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I believe it's 5.0.2 - can check tonight.

CelticWhisper said:
I believe it's 5.0.2 - can check tonight.
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ok im pretty sure that the lg lollipop bootloader isnt bumpable ( not bumpable on my tab) have you tried downgrading to kitkat because thats what i had to do to bump my bootloader but im not seeing any roms for your device which is kind of funny how my tab has more roms then your tab but we dont have our own device forum weird but i dont see any twrp for you either also if you want root try the kingoroot not on the actual kingoroot website go to https://kingroot.en.uptodown.com/android/download the version on the kingoroot website doesnt root our tabs for some reason so use that one oh i just found a twrp for your vk700 https://www.needrom.com/download/twrp-3-0-2-2-vkworld-vk700-pro/ but probably no use without custom rom