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I have tried to pair two different bluetooth media controllers but neither will connect. I see them as available in the devices list but when I click connect nothing happens. I assume if I can see them in the list even the funky bt setup on this thing can use it or is that not correct?
I have a joying UQ124 its the no cd quad core version if it helps
Have you read this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...head-units-qa/bluetooth-media-remote-t3283162
I did but was hoping someone had better results. Also, I was confused about the person who said they resolved an issue by using and xposed module. I didn't find any module that looks related to bt in a relevant way and was not sure if they were even having the same problem.
I guess I just want to know if this is even possable with this headunit or if I should keep looking for a solution.
dakkara303 said:
I have tried to pair two different bluetooth media controllers but neither will connect. I see them as available in the devices list but when I click connect nothing happens. I assume if I can see them in the list even the funky bt setup on this thing can use it or is that not correct?
I have a joying UQ124 its the no cd quad core version if it helps
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I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do with your specific bluetooth controllers, but if you are unable to get them to work as intended, consider the back-lit version of the Lenovo N5902 or something similar for multimedia control of your JY unit. The N5902 works well as a multimedia remote for Android or Windows home theater multimedia systems as well as Android head units. All you'll need is an open usb port for the small wireless dongle and you'll be good to go.
Best to all,
R
Ideally I would like to use something like
amazon /iSimple-Portable-Wireless-Smartphones-Bluetooth/dp/B00KPZN5UC/ref=pd_sim_107_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=411ue0yFG3L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0QC6Y0SC8ZEF13W3638N
So I can have the controlls on the wheel, but I guess my underlying question is will the unit work with bt devices besides a phone and obd.
dakkara303 said:
Ideally I would like to use something like
amazon /iSimple-Portable-Wireless-Smartphones-Bluetooth/dp/B00KPZN5UC/ref=pd_sim_107_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=411ue0yFG3L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0QC6Y0SC8ZEF13W3638N
So I can have the controlls on the wheel, but I guess my underlying question is will the unit work with bt devices besides a phone and obd.
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I have installed an Axxess RFASWC Universal RF Steering Wheel Control, Once the receiver is set to radio type 11 connect the two wires to Key1, and key2 every button except the one on the back can be mapped.
Currently trying to find a usb or Bluetooth media control for android that connects to this HU but so far not been successful.
chuupa said:
I have installed an Axxess RFASWC Universal RF Steering Wheel Control, Once the receiver is set to radio type 11 connect the two wires to Key1, and key2 every button except the one on the back can be mapped.
Currently trying to find a usb or Bluetooth media control for android that connects to this HU but so far not been successful.
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I may go that route, it looks a little clunky and not super well designed especially for over a hundred bucks, but may be me best option.
dakkara303 said:
I may go that route, it looks a little clunky and not super well designed especially for over a hundred bucks, but may be me best option.
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I have to admit the Axxess RFASWC has worked out well for what it is, however I am currently waiting for a BMW I-Drive and an Arduino Leonardo board with in built CAN BUS to arrive.
Planning to write some software to convert the CAN BUS messages from the I-Drive into USB HID Remote commands.
dakkara303 said:
I may go that route, it looks a little clunky and not super well designed especially for over a hundred bucks, but may be me best option.
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Check out the link below for a more cost effective SWC Key Button solution.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151832759268?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
You can also possibly find these units even cheaper online by searching for:
SWC Key Button FEELDO 4252 For Android DVD Head Unit
or
Car Steering Wheel Control Key Button For Android DVD/GPS Player Bluetooth Phone
Please note that I've only installed one of these units on a Joying JY-UQ124, and 6 out of the 7 buttons work correctly. The lower right call button does not register any signal in the JY SWC settings, so I'm guessing the button is defective. That stated, it's been about two weeks since requesting help from the ebay seller, and I'm still waiting for a reply on this specific inoperative button issue. Hopefully, the delayed reply is only due to the long Chinese New Year holiday.
Hope this helps...
Best to all,
R
chuupa said:
I have to admit the Axxess RFASWC has worked out well for what it is, however I am currently waiting for a BMW I-Drive and an Arduino Leonardo board with in built CAN BUS to arrive.
Planning to write some software to convert the CAN BUS messages from the I-Drive into USB HID Remote commands.
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Will the iDrive work in other cars? If so if you make that code you may just be my hero. Something like that is exactly what I origonally wanted.
rhacy said:
Check out the link below for a more cost effective SWC Key Button solution.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151832759268?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
You can also possibly find these units even cheaper online by searching for:
SWC Key Button FEELDO 4252 For Android DVD Head Unit
or
Car Steering Wheel Control Key Button For Android DVD/GPS Player Bluetooth Phone
Please note that I've only installed one of these units on a Joying JY-UQ124, and 6 out of the 7 buttons work correctly. The lower right call button does not register any signal in the JY SWC settings, so I'm guessing the button is defective. That stated, it's been about two weeks since requesting help from the ebay seller, and I'm still waiting for a reply on this specific inoperative button issue. Hopefully, the delayed reply is only due to the long Chinese New Year holiday.
Hope this helps...
Best to all,
R
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I went ahead and ordered one of these because for the price I think it will do really close to everything I want. I will let you know if my button works in case it is just a design problem, save you trouble dealing with vendor. Of course, it may take a month to get here =/
dakkara303 said:
Will the iDrive work in other cars? If so if you make that code you may just be my hero. Something like that is exactly what I origonally wanted.
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Totally possible, infact the bluetooth version has been done already http://www.volcano.at/iDrive/
The iDrive controller and arduino arrived earlier today and only played around with then for half an hour making sure they were working, so far managed to receive lots of CAN BUS raw data.
I have also downloaded a shed load of BMW CAN BUS codes that I have yet to go through, but my initial thought is to try sending the code to impersonate turning the lights on to see which set turns on the key backlights.
Once i have more time I will get a better understanding about how the CAN BUS side of things work, and hopefully do what I want to do.
Just thought I would do a quick update on getting the BMW IDrive working with the Head Unit.
most things that i want it to do works, but the rotary part of the control, for some reason I cant get that to initialise and start sending messages when twisted.
Whats working..
Stick press -> Play/Pause
Stick left/right -> prev/next track
Stick up/down -> vol up/down
Menu -> home
Back -> back
Media -> sends shortcut keypress that starts amazon music
Radio -> sends shortcut keypress that starts the radio
Tel -> sends shortcut keypress that starts bluetooth
Nav -> sends shortcut keypress that starts Here nav
Option -> i keep a record of the last shortcut and it starts the next in line (Amazon Music>Radio>Bluetooth>nav)
What i need to do..
Enable long press for left/right -> fastforward/rewind
Enable long press for up/down -> continuous volume up and down until i release it.
and the damn rotary control lol.
adding a sensor that detects the brightness of my dash lights and alters the controller led brightness, at present i just have it set to 50% brightness all the time.
parts used.
http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/leonardo-canbus?keyword=can bus
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-F-Ser...060399?hash=item2a617abdef:g:MEgAAOSwzhVWreEK
links to the sites/people that made it all ossible (the really clever people)
http://www.volcano.at/iDrive/
http://www.loopybunny.co.uk/CarPC/k_can.html
rhacy said:
Check out the link below for a more cost effective SWC Key Button solution.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151832759268?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
You can also possibly find these units even cheaper online by searching for:
SWC Key Button FEELDO 4252 For Android DVD Head Unit
or
Car Steering Wheel Control Key Button For Android DVD/GPS Player Bluetooth Phone
Please note that I've only installed one of these units on a Joying JY-UQ124, and 6 out of the 7 buttons work correctly. The lower right call button does not register any signal in the JY SWC settings, so I'm guessing the button is defective. That stated, it's been about two weeks since requesting help from the ebay seller, and I'm still waiting for a reply on this specific inoperative button issue. Hopefully, the delayed reply is only due to the long Chinese New Year holiday.
Hope this helps...
Best to all,
R
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This is awesome! I've been looking for a cheaper solution than the axxess model. Thanks for posting!
chuupa said:
parts used.
http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/leonardo-canbus?keyword=can bus
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-F-Ser...060399?hash=item2a617abdef:g:MEgAAOSwzhVWreEK
links to the sites/people that made it all ossible (the really clever people)
http://www.volcano.at/iDrive/
http://www.loopybunny.co.uk/CarPC/k_can.html
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So the leonardo-canbus is like the controller/converter and talks directly to the HU? That is really cool, and I need to up my microcontroller game!
dakkara303 said:
So the leonardo-canbus is like the controller/converter and talks directly to the HU? That is really cool, and I need to up my microcontroller game!
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Yes, very nice implementation by hobbytronics, the HU thinks it is connected with both a USB HID Keyboard, and a USB HID Remote.
USB Keyboard starts the default apps i have setup with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper&hl=en and takes care of HOME (Menu), BACK (Back), and Switching between recent apps with the option button.
USB Remote takes care of Pev, Next, Play/Pause, Volume, etc..
Once i have it all working I will post the code up here.
rhacy said:
Check out the link below for a more cost effective SWC Key Button solution.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151832759268?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
You can also possibly find these units even cheaper online by searching for:
SWC Key Button FEELDO 4252 For Android DVD Head Unit
or
Car Steering Wheel Control Key Button For Android DVD/GPS Player Bluetooth Phone
Please note that I've only installed one of these units on a Joying JY-UQ124, and 6 out of the 7 buttons work correctly. The lower right call button does not register any signal in the JY SWC settings, so I'm guessing the button is defective. That stated, it's been about two weeks since requesting help from the ebay seller, and I'm still waiting for a reply on this specific inoperative button issue. Hopefully, the delayed reply is only due to the long Chinese New Year holiday.
Hope this helps...
Best to all,
R
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Hey, just wanted to followup with you. I received my unit in the mail today and installed it tonight. Every button works great! Thanks again for the recommendation!
chuupa said:
Just thought I would do a quick update on getting the BMW IDrive working with the Head Unit.
most things that i want it to do works, but the rotary part of the control, for some reason I cant get that to initialise and start sending messages when twisted.
Whats working..
Stick press -> Play/Pause
Stick left/right -> prev/next track
Stick up/down -> vol up/down
Menu -> home
Back -> back
Media -> sends shortcut keypress that starts amazon music
Radio -> sends shortcut keypress that starts the radio
Tel -> sends shortcut keypress that starts bluetooth
Nav -> sends shortcut keypress that starts Here nav
Option -> i keep a record of the last shortcut and it starts the next in line (Amazon Music>Radio>Bluetooth>nav)
What i need to do..
Enable long press for left/right -> fastforward/rewind
Enable long press for up/down -> continuous volume up and down until i release it.
and the damn rotary control lol.
adding a sensor that detects the brightness of my dash lights and alters the controller led brightness, at present i just have it set to 50% brightness all the time.
parts used.
http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/leonardo-canbus?keyword=can bus
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-F-Ser...060399?hash=item2a617abdef:g:MEgAAOSwzhVWreEK
links to the sites/people that made it all ossible (the really clever people)
http://www.volcano.at/iDrive/
http://www.loopybunny.co.uk/CarPC/k_can.html
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Is the F Series the only one that wwill work with the system? Also, do you know how big it is under the knob-thing? I am short on space in my console area. Thanks!
dcmtnbkr said:
Hey, just wanted to followup with you. I received my unit in the mail today and installed it tonight. Every button works great! Thanks again for the recommendation!
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Can you give me the wiring that you used on your Joying? I ordered one and the box came with Chinese instructions. While the seller attempted to send me an english doc, so far the attempts have resulted in documents that have been too small to be useful.
cranbiz said:
Can you give me the wiring that you used on your Joying? I ordered one and the box came with Chinese instructions. While the seller attempted to send me an english doc, so far the attempts have resulted in documents that have been too small to be useful.
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I honestly dont remember. I stripped the wires on the stereo and on the remote receiver and was just going to try it one way and if it didnt work, try it the other. It ended up working the first way so I put connectors on the end to make the connection permanent and called it a day. I doubt it would hurt if you had it backwards.
[edit] Obviously red is 12v and black is ground. I used the google translate app to translate the directions, they gave me some info. It uses your phone camera to translate written language.
Finally installed a reverse camera on my BMW E46, all cables are right connected and the camera is working during a test on workbench.
My Dasaita V600 head unit (MCU updated to last 2.80 version) dont have a "reverse signale cable" but is supposed to switch in reverse camera through the canbus (E39-E46 software V1.0) so my camera is only connected to "CAM-IN yellow" cable for HU.
Putting reverse gear (motor running or not) the head units dont auto switch to "CAM IN" input for showing images from camera. Anyone had this issue? Any help?
P.S.: If the camera is connected to "AUX Video IN" and manually started AVIN app images are on screen, so no troubles with camera and/or connections.
Thank you in advance
What did the reseller advise you when you contacted them for support?
marchnz said:
What did the reseller advise you when you contacted them for support?
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I'm waiting a reply from Dasaita support
iRcKenny said:
I'm waiting a reply from Dasaita support
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Hi, have you been able to correct this issue ?
tmarto said:
Hi, have you been able to correct this issue ?
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Solved by myself and taking a little risk
had a similar problem, turns out you have to enable 'prohibit reverse' in factory settings
k0sTi said:
had a similar problem, turns out you have to enable 'prohibit reverse' in factory settings
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The options was enabled by default on my unit. Tried all options and deep searching for a "software solution" without luck.
Only working thing i find was cutting a wire from canbus box and direct connect the other side from my HU to reverse signal wire from my auto.
I think that was caused from BMW E46 I-BUS signals not fully decoded from canbus, i have retained all steering wheels controls but not doors open warnings, if they are supposed to show on HU display.
If anyone have some advices they are welcome.
P.S.: In my case working for steering wheel controls setting are NO CANBUS. If i try to select another BMW voice from list i lose steering wheel controls.
iRcKenny said:
The options was enabled by default on my unit. Tried all options and deep searching for a "software solution" without luck.
Only working thing i find was cutting a wire from canbus box and direct connect the other side from my HU to reverse signal wire from my auto.
I think that was caused from BMW E46 I-BUS signals not fully decoded from canbus, i have retained all steering wheels controls but not doors open warnings, if they are supposed to show on HU display.
If anyone have some advices they are welcome.
P.S.: In my case working for steering wheel controls setting are NO CANBUS. If i try to select another BMW voice from list i lose steering wheel controls.
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Can you tell me what wire you cut and connected the blue from reverse light?
BL/GE - Blue/Yellow wire
I understood that it was a wire between the headunit and the canbus decoder.
(on Automatic Gear Box it seems it works just fine)
I know that the data is send and it works The Ibus is able to detect the msg, this decoders just don't catch on older veicules with Manual Gear Box.
Napas2199 said:
Can you tell me what wire you cut and connected the blue from reverse light?
BL/GE - Blue/Yellow wire
I understood that it was a wire between the headunit and the canbus decoder.
(on Automatic Gear Box it seems it works just fine)
I know that the data is send and it works The Ibus is able to detect the msg, this decoders just don't catch on older veicules with Manual Gear Box.
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If i remember well i think it was the Blue/Yellow wire (my is the touring version) but easy is checking with the help of a multimeter
iRcKenny said:
If i remember well i think it was the Blue/Yellow wire (my is the touring version) but easy is checking with the help of a multimeter
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Sorry i did not explain correctly.
The BL/GE - Blue/Yellow wire is the one i'm going to connect to a specific wire that is cut from the headunit
What Reverse/Back wire did you cut to get the reverse signal on the HeadUnit+Canbus decoder?
Napas2199 said:
Sorry i did not explain correctly.
The BL/GE - Blue/Yellow wire is the one i'm going to connect to a specific wire that is cut from the headunit
What Reverse/Back wire did you cut to get the reverse signal on the HeadUnit+Canbus decoder?
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i used the wire number 2 labeled "reverse" on HU side, but you need to be sure that your HU is a Dasaita for BMW E46.
Check the wire/connection label on your HU for confirmation.
P.S.: On kmy case the wire was orange
iRcKenny said:
i used the wire number 2 labeled "reverse" on HU side, but you need to be sure that your HU is a Dasaita for BMW E46.
Check the wire/connection label on your HU for confirmation.
P.S.: On kmy case the wire was orange
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I don't think it's strictly Dasaita, as this is the same for Eonon as well. I had to tap into the blue wire between the HU & CANBUS converter. I have the power for the camera tapped into the reverse light.
I too have an E46 Touring. I'm curious, where did you mount your camera? I put mine right above the licence plate dead center of the hatch release button. It's a perfect spot! I removed the torx screws and slid it behind the plate light bracket and ran the wires through there as well. It works fantastic in this location and it even assists when connecting a trailer because it's close to the hitch.
ChrisFromSH said:
I don't think it's strictly Dasaita, as this is the same for Eonon as well. I had to tap into the blue wire between the HU & CANBUS converter. I have the power for the camera tapped into the reverse light.
I too have an E46 Touring. I'm curious, where did you mount your camera? I put mine right above the licence plate dead center of the hatch release button. It's a perfect spot! I removed the torx screws and slid it behind the plate light bracket and ran the wires through there as well. It works fantastic in this location and it even assists when connecting a trailer because it's close to the hitch.
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installed mine on license plate light.
A question if i can: your HU is capable to show opened doors? Im not able to find that option on my factory settings and also on my unit on Canbus options i have set "No canbus", if i set another bmw choice i lose swc controls.
iRcKenny said:
installed mine on license plate light.
A question if i can: your HU is capable to show opened doors? Im not able to find that option on my factory settings and also on my unit on Canbus options i have set "No canbus", if i set another bmw choice i lose swc controls.
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I've seen cameras that replace one of the lights. I thought about 3D printing an adapter but I went the route I did to keep both lights and have the camera dead center.
Yes, but you need the I-BUS interface to do that. The Canbus converter doesn't do much. With the I-BUS interface & I-BUS app you're able to see what doors and windows are open, what lights are on, and you can code your car as well.
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
moreno_cos said:
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
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Check that allí connectors from/to canbus and to the headunit are well connected (sometimes they require some force press to really be plugged)
On the link you provided there is a guy that commented that everything worked as expected including the SWC so....if you can't fix it contact your seller for support
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
moreno_cos said:
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
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On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
iRcKenny said:
On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
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On 1st photo: I agree with you. My alfa romeo is a car of 2007 and it hasn´t blue&me installed. I did not know if I could use these buttons with the new radio
On 2nd photo: The buttons were working with my original radio. I could change the memorized radio programs. I've seen in some YouTube video, how this function is still operational with the android radio car and I would like use its.
Thank you very much for your help
moreno_cos said:
On 1st photo: I agree with you. My alfa romeo is a car of 2007 and it hasn´t blue&me installed. I did not know if I could use these buttons with the new radio
On 2nd photo: The buttons were working with my original radio. I could change the memorized radio programs. I've seen in some YouTube video, how this function is still operational with the android radio car and I would like use its.
Thank you very much for your help
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Try long pressing the ones for "skip tracks/seek radio stations". My units acts like this. Try also all "Alfa Romes" canbus entries on Factory Settings
iRcKenny said:
On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
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iRcKenny said:
Try long pressing the ones for "skip tracks/seek radio stations". My units acts like this. Try also all "Alfa Romes" canbus entries on Factory Settings
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Long pressing not working, and I´ve tried to configure canbus tap but it not resolve de issue
Thank you again
Hi!!
My Alfa 159 works like yours, only 4 buttons are working. I had one unit android 5.1 before the 7.1.2 and everything from swc work.
If you have the solution please MP
Ruiroach said:
Hi!!
My Alfa 159 works like yours, only 4 buttons are working. I had one unit android 5.1 before the 7.1.2 and everything from swc work.
If you have the solution please MP
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The seller send me a rom update, but I don´t sure to update the radio... Will it solve the problem or will it further damage it...
I can send you the rom if yo want it
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The seller send me a rom update, but I don´t sure to update the radio... Will it solve the problem or will it further damage it...
I can send you the rom if yo want it
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I dont think it will make any difference, there is a way that MTCDTools can remap SWC on cars with CAN Bus, @ikerg can tell you how to do it or what thread its in.
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I dont think it will make any difference, there is a way that MTCDTools can remap SWC on cars with CAN Bus, @ikerg can tell you how to do it or what thread its in.
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any ideas please?
moreno_cos said:
any ideas please?
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pm @ikerg or search the forums, hes deffo mentioned how to do it on CAN Bus units before.
typos1 said:
pm @ikerg or search the forums, hes deffo mentioned how to do it on CAN Bus units before.
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Found said posts and they were for car which communicate with resistive signals via canbus (or something ), so wiring the canbus from car harness directly to key1/2 gives access to the buttons.
If Alfa uses no resistive signals, you wont get away with this.
GM cars like mine have the buttons via hardcoded addresses via canbus and you can only try to find those codes in android or mod MCU profile it seems... too nub to do so in my case.. trying hard
Xorit said:
Found said posts and they were for car which communicate with resistive signals via canbus (or something ), so wiring the canbus from car harness directly to key1/2 gives access to the buttons.
If Alfa uses no resistive signals, you wont get away with this.
GM cars like mine have the buttons via hardcoded addresses via canbus and you can only try to find those codes in android or mod MCU profile it seems... too nub to do so in my case.. trying hard
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Theyre not the posts I was talking about - pretty certain theres a way to programme CAN Bus SWC.
Alfa 159s have CAN Bus SWC.
I've had a similar problem with my Alfa 159 when I installed a PX3 unit. However, for me all the SWC buttons except the centre button on the left set work (i.e. pic 1) and only the left and right SWC buttons on the right set (i.e. pic 2). It is weird as the buttons that do not work mimic the other buttons for some reason so it's like crossing of signals or decoding it wrong.
As I didn't find anyone else having a problem I assumed it was either the CAN bus decoder (I opened it up and flipped switch 4 which helped I think but maybe it isn't suitable?) or the connection behind the steering wheel is loose. I haven't got round to checking the connection (apparently it's simple to open) as I can still control most things.
BTW, my car had the blue&me installed from factory.
SWC on Alfa Romeo 159
H all, I just installed a new Android head unit in my Alfa Romeo 159 SW (2006) and all the SWC's work and I can map them from the app. Below I will explain how I did it, hope this will help.
My head unit:
Xtrons TE706PL
PX 5 octacore 4GB 32BG Android 8
My car:
Alfa Romeo 159 SW
Upgraded from original radio (so not the navigation unit)
My car did not have Blue&Me
Required hardware:
Dedicated CANBUS adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTSAR002.2 (product number)
Patch lead to go with canbus adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTMULTILEAD.2 (product number)
I ordered both from Amazon Germany from seller NIQ. The patch lead was included with the CANBUS adapter, just make sure to select the correct one meant for Chinese head units. Price was 60 euros.
Installation
The CANBUS adapter is connected between the original car connections and the head unit. This looks confusing at first (it has connections on three sides), but in the end everything only fits one way. On one side connect the patch lead, on the other side it is connected to the head unit and on the last side it is connected to the original car plugs. All these connections are very simple with plugs that only fit one way. (I did need quite some force to push in the 2 of the 3 original plugs into the CANBUS adapter)
As mentioned, the patch lead is connected to the CANBUS adapter on one side. On the other side you need to connect it to the KEY 1, KEY 2 and GROUND wire coming from the head unit. This was the only connection that is not made with plugs, so either crimp them together (which I did, very simple, but you need a crimping tool), solder them, or make another good wire to wire connection.
Important notes:
The connection need to be made in a specific order!
First connect KEY 1, KEY 2 and GRND wires
Second connect the CANBUS adapter to the head unit
Last step is to connect the CANBUS adapter to the car connections
My car did not have Blue&Me, so I don't know if this changes anything. I think I read somewhere you can just leave it in the car and not connect it. But maybe do a little research.
All this is also specified in the manuals provided with the products. Connects2 has some nice youtube videos on the CANBUS adapters, just google them.
I did quite some research myself before I figured it out, but now all is installed and working perfectly! I reprogrammed all the keys to my own preferences, including google assistant speech activation button.
Hope this helps!
SJ1977 said:
H all, I just installed a new Android head unit in my Alfa Romeo 159 SW (2006) and all the SWC's work and I can map them from the app. Below I will explain how I did it, hope this will help.
My head unit:
Xtrons TE706PL
PX 5 octacore 4GB 32BG Android 8
My car:
Alfa Romeo 159 SW
Upgraded from original radio (so not the navigation unit)
My car did not have Blue&Me
Required hardware:
Dedicated CANBUS adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTSAR002.2 (product number)
Patch lead to go with canbus adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTMULTILEAD.2 (product number)
I ordered both from Amazon Germany from seller NIQ. The patch lead was included with the CANBUS adapter, just make sure to select the correct one meant for Chinese head units. Price was 60 euros.
Installation
The CANBUS adapter is connected between the original car connections and the head unit. This looks confusing at first (it has connections on three sides), but in the end everything only fits one way. On one side connect the patch lead, on the other side it is connected to the head unit and on the last side it is connected to the original car plugs. All these connections are very simple with plugs that only fit one way. (I did need quite some force to push in the 2 of the 3 original plugs into the CANBUS adapter)
As mentioned, the patch lead is connected to the CANBUS adapter on one side. On the other side you need to connect it to the KEY 1, KEY 2 and GROUND wire coming from the head unit. This was the only connection that is not made with plugs, so either crimp them together (which I did, very simple, but you need a crimping tool), solder them, or make another good wire to wire connection.
Important notes:
The connection need to be made in a specific order!
First connect KEY 1, KEY 2 and GRND wires
Second connect the CANBUS adapter to the head unit
Last step is to connect the CANBUS adapter to the car connections
My car did not have Blue&Me, so I don't know if this changes anything. I think I read somewhere you can just leave it in the car and not connect it. But maybe do a little research.
All this is also specified in the manuals provided with the products. Connects2 has some nice youtube videos on the CANBUS adapters, just google them.
I did quite some research myself before I figured it out, but now all is installed and working perfectly! I reprogrammed all the keys to my own preferences, including google assistant speech activation button.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the info, but what unit do you have ? - "TE706PL" is a made up name, your MCU will tell us what unit it is, I m guessing a GS ?
typos1 said:
Thanks for the info, but what unit do you have ? - "TE706PL" is a made up name, your MCU will tell us what unit it is, I m guessing a GS ?
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Sorry, I was not near my car, so couldn't find my MCU version. But here it is:
MTCE_GS_V2.88_3
Jun 12 2018 11:17:36
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
bantroi said:
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
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More likely that its just not supported, some cars have even less support.
bantroi said:
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
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That's what Im trying to find, a canbus decoder with more options.
I had the alfa 159 android 5.1 unit and It shows temperature, doors and full keys function. I upgraded to a new unit android 7.1 and now I haven't temperature, doors and only half of keys are working.
Hi,
I have a MTCE / PX5 with a raise , ford focus 2012 canbus decoder. Steering controls work (vol up/dw next/prev/play/pause ONLY) BUT how come I can't see anything in wheelkey study app? I would like to rebind some of my steering controls but the app don't see anything.
I have so many controls on my steering wheel I would like to bind but I can't!
Please someone have an idea what's wrong?
Thanks!
Laurent
I’ve wondered the same, I believe you need to use the mtcde app to make changes to already default binded buttons but not worked out how to unbind one first.
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My understanding (although haven't tested it yet) is that you need to connect the cables Key-1 and Key-2 directly to your steering wheel if you want to use the default learning function. This is assuming Ford Focus uses resistive bridges for steering wheel keys (Mazda does). You'll have to get & check a Wiring Diagram specific to your car to find the right cables. Also, Key 2 is NOT ground, you have 2 cables because sometimes the steering wheel controls go to different devices (in Mazda 3, the Vol +/-, Next and Mode go to the stereo, while the Push-to-talk, Hang-up / Hang-down go to the Bluetooth controller)
Hope this helps
Having said this, maybe you're better of by testing first XPosed, an app that allows you to change the functions of the keys. But you'll have to root your device. Malaysk has a SW release for PX5 already rooted and with XPOSED pre-installed. But most probably XPOSED will only let you change the functions of the keys that are already working, not to solve the issues with the ones that are not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...-malaysk-roms-px5-2-4-gb-8-0-android-t3762724
Max
ELCouz said:
Hi,
I have a MTCE / PX5 with a raise , ford focus 2012 canbus decoder. Steering controls work (vol up/dw next/prev/play/pause ONLY) BUT how come I can't see anything in wheelkey study app? I would like to rebind some of my steering controls but the app don't see anything.
I have so many controls on my steering wheel I would like to bind but I can't!
Please someone have an idea what's wrong?
Thanks!
Laurent
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I have the same problem on a Ford Kuga. Did you find a solution ?
Maybe the canbus configuration in the "settings" menu (the password protected menu) ?
parisisal said:
I have the same problem on a Ford Kuga. Did you find a solution ?
Maybe the canbus configuration in the "settings" menu (the password protected menu) ?
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I have the same problem on a Ford Kuga. Did you find a solution ?
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The wheelkey study app is for non-canbus only.
The steering wheel keys are controlled by the canbus decoder for some vehicles. So that you can not program them.
SYGAV said:
The steering wheel keys are controlled by the canbus decoder for some vehicles. So that you can not program them.
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Good response, but I think this thread went to crickets weeks ago.
SYGAV said:
The steering wheel keys are controlled by the canbus decoder for some vehicles. So that you can not program them.
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Helpful -- thank you. Same issue here with a 2014 VW Beetle and an Eonon GA9153A (MTCE_HT_V2.84_1). At least now I understand why the wheelkey app doesn't recognize any steering wheel buttons. Bad software design -- the app should really show a message explaining this better
Good day experts! I have a problem with my witson w2-v5522.... the unit works perfect except for steering wheel command....the magane 2 is a bit strange (from what i've read on forums)because the steering wheel controls are resistive but the display translates them into canbus.... the unit has a canbus decoder but nothing to do with them....
someone has some good ideas?
Many thanks!
And second question...
If i dont' want to use the can bus ( or i i can't use the can bus ) someone knows the value of resistances to be put in series to the buttons ?
If they are resistive you will.just to use the steering wheel study app to asign a function to each button (short and long press)
On my Mazda cx5 they are resistive too.
Without canbus I did the study as I commented before.. with canbus it automatically comes with predefined functionality
Check that you have your correct canbus selected on the factory settings
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ikerg said:
If they are resistive you will.just to use the steering wheel study app to asign a function to each button (short and long press)
On my Mazda cx5 they are resistive too.
Without canbus I did the study as I commented before.. with canbus it automatically comes with predefined functionality
Check that you have your correct canbus selected on the factory settings
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Thanks for the answer... I've already checked and tried every voice in factory settings but canbus mode won't work....
So i decide to intercept commands before they "become" canbus ( in megane 2 the original display translate resistive command to canbus protocol) but the auto learning function wont work.... I read somewhere that you need to assign a specific resistive value because the car radio calculates the values based on the voltage drop between key1 and gnd.
i've tried some value 100Ohm, 220, 440, 820 but no result for now...
it's simple, you need this http://www.connects2.com/products/steering-wheel-control-interfaces/vehicle/Renault
I had to bought one of this for Qashqai too.
bovcan said:
it's simple, you need this http://www.connects2.com/products/steering-wheel-control-interfaces/vehicle/Renault
I had to bought one of this for Qashqai too.
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Well it's a possibility but the px5 unit already has a CANBUS interface and it does not work, I would not find myself with 2 useless interfaces....