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Alright everyone,
Some details about my phone before we begin-
I am a moderate user. I play some games, check emails, text and that's about it.
My phone is NOT rooted and obviously I am not running a custom rom, or a alternate launcher, and I haven't really modified many if at all any settings.
So, that being said I am experience some sever kernel wake lock issues form bam_dmux_wakelock for the past week or so. As you see in my picture, 6 out of my 7 hours of up time (off charger) has been kept from deep sleep, therefore destroying my battery time.
Today I have maybe 30-40 minutes total of screen on time, but not nearly the 6 hours of non deep sleep time.
I've turned off "okay google" detection, disabled wifi when screen is off, restricted background data for youtube, disabled google + (I don't use social media) and my brightness is on auto mode, typically around 35% when the screen is on.
If google can see this I would like to offer them a huge F you for changing the permission architecture so that gplay apps cant detected whats causing the wake-lock without root. They are pretty much forcing us to root our phones to access features locked meanwhile continuing to call android "Open Source"
Can anyone give me a recommendation on what are my options? Or should I really just root my phone, which I don't want to do (I have in the past but I haven't needed too with the G3 since it has everything I want without root)
I don't think it's Google's fault if LG makes a sucks kernel. Anyway, bam_dmux seems to be related to radios. Could it be that during those wake locks you were in an area where there is weak signal? Are you still experiencing this error after a reboot of the phone?
keithleyson said:
I don't think it's Google's fault if LG makes a sucks kernel. Anyway, bam_dmux seems to be related to radios. Could it be that during those wake locks you were in an area where there is weak signal? Are you still experiencing this error after a reboot of the phone?
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I've reset the phone multiple times, and have also cleared the cache from the bootloader as well. I don't have a weak signal in my area; also the radio interface is a separate wake lock code from bam_dmux. From what I read bam_dmux has to do with google background services.
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JetForceF22 said:
I've reset the phone multiple times, and have also cleared the cache from the bootloader as well. I don't have a weak signal in my area; also the radio interface is a separate wake lock code from bam_dmux. From what I read bam_dmux has to do with google background services.
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Google location service may be running in the background to much too long.
gee2012 said:
Google location service may be running in the background to much too long.
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I don't see a google location service only the Verizon Location Agent; there are two other services called "LocationServices" under All in my application manager, and they are both listed at being 0.00 bytes in size (?) I force stopped those anyways along with the verizon location agent which restarted anyways. I also have location completely off in my quick menu from the pull down bar, I only turn it on when I'm using GPS.
Hi all,
I'm running several apps that should run all the time (AdGuard, Network Speed Meter) or for a long time (speed trap warner,...) but OxygenOS kills them after a certain period. Some of them restart automatically, some don't. Of course all of these apps are 'not battery optimized'. Is there any chance to prevent OxygenOS from killing them?
Are there custom ROMs that can overcome this problen?
I'm on the latest OxygenOS Pie Beta, but the behavior was similar on Android O...
Thanks a lot,
W
Did you try locking the app via recents menu?
Thank for the info, didn't know that.
Unfortunately it doesn't help, Adguard and the network monitor don't appear in recents. The speed trap warner automatically starts and stops when I'm in the car, i don't want to open recents manually every time.
Battery - Battery optimisation - Don't optimise
safwankatharudheen said:
Battery - Battery optimisation - Don't optimise
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This is not changing anything,e ven with disable battery disabled, even with adaptative battery disabled.
I have the same problem. I have not found any solution whatsoever. This is really frustrating. I've made sure apps aren't optimized. Advanced optimization is disabled. Developer options background limit is at standard. I've pinned the apps in recent apps and it still happens. Apps get killed all the time.
For example,
1. I use Google Fit to start tracking a run. Within 10 minutes of tracking, the app is closed and workout not tracked. Its not even like i touched the phone and opened other apps during this.
2. I have VoIP account setup in the default dialer. Calls come through only 50% of the time cause the dialer is closed.
3. YouTube Music, constantly gets closed if i simply pause the music. Within 2 minutes, the app is closed.
4. Trying to transfer 15GB of files through Explorer app from phone to file server, never succeeds if i don't watch the app and keep the screen on.
5. Plex gets closed and therefore my photos don't auto backup with the phone is plugged in.
This is absolutely ridiculous! Why the hell a phone with 8GB of RAM is killing apps is beyond me!
Custom ROM on the same phone, like Lineage OS, no issues. Can have optimization on, battery manager on and all. In fact, battery life is better on custom when its not killing the apps! Seems to be the only solution until OOS can stop killing apps so aggressively.
M3drvr said:
I have the same problem. I have not found any solution whatsoever. This is really frustrating. I've made sure apps aren't optimized. Advanced optimization is disabled. Developer options background limit is at standard. I've pinned the apps in recent apps and it still happens. Apps get killed all the time.
For example,
1. I use Google Fit to start tracking a run. Within 10 minutes of tracking, the app is closed and workout not tracked. Its not even like i touched the phone and opened other apps during this.
2. I have VoIP account setup in the default dialer. Calls come through only 50% of the time cause the dialer is closed.
3. YouTube Music, constantly gets closed if i simply pause the music. Within 2 minutes, the app is closed.
4. Trying to transfer 15GB of files through Explorer app from phone to file server, never succeeds if i don't watch the app and keep the screen on.
5. Plex gets closed and therefore my photos don't auto backup with the phone is plugged in.
This is absolutely ridiculous! Why the hell a phone with 8GB of RAM is killing apps is beyond me!
Custom ROM on the same phone, like Lineage OS, no issues. Can have optimization on, battery manager on and all. In fact, battery life is better on custom when its not killing the apps! Seems to be the only solution until OOS can stop killing apps so aggressively.
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My app is not killed when i lock it in the switch app menu
There's a whole website regarding that issue on several devices, maybe it helps: dontkillmyapp(dot)com/general#user-solution
Hi all,
I seem to get this issue with pretty much every single Android Device I've owned in the last 8 years, particularly Samsung ones, and that's the good old "Android System" battery drain.
I have tried everything over the years, except rooting the device, but nothing has ever worked as a permanent fix.
I have tried:
- resetting device
- clearing cache
- restarting phone
- Shutting down background tasks
- Low battery usage location settings
- Deleting apps
- a million other things
But one way or another, Android System will eventually make its way back to the top of my battery usage stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OS itself that's badly coded which causes this.
Has anyone, anyone, ever figured out a way to get on top of Android System battery drain?
lbreak said:
Hi all,
I seem to get this issue with pretty much every single Android Device I've owned in the last 8 years, particularly Samsung ones, and that's the good old "Android System" battery drain.
I have tried everything over the years, except rooting the device, but nothing has ever worked as a permanent fix.
I have tried:
- resetting device
- clearing cache
- restarting phone
- Shutting down background tasks
- Low battery usage location settings
- Deleting apps
- a million other things
But one way or another, Android System will eventually make its way back to the top of my battery usage stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OS itself that's badly coded which causes this.
Has anyone, anyone, ever figured out a way to get on top of Android System battery drain?
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I'm not sure this effects that, but while setting up phone from a factory reset etc, do you Uncheck the fields that pop up such as analytics, wifi scanning (even while off) and all the other ones ?
I uncheck all the crap i can. It's possible if you leave those checked that could be the culprit a bunch of services running in bckgrd....
Just a guess....but if you say this has happened on all your androids....maybe this is why.
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louforgiveno said:
I'm not sure this effects that, but while setting up phone from a factory reset etc, do you Uncheck the fields that pop up such as analytics, wifi scanning (even while off) and all the other ones ?
I uncheck all the crap i can. It's possible if you leave those checked that could be the culprit a bunch of services running in bckgrd....
Just a guess....but if you say this has happened on all your androids....maybe this is why.
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Yep I un-ckeck all of those fields. Makes zero difference overall (I have tried both ways).
lbreak said:
Yep I un-ckeck all of those fields. Makes zero difference overall (I have tried both ways).
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That sucks, could it be due to social media apps syncing constantly? Sorry I'm out of ideas....
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Ibreak, maybe the problem is caused by apps sending reports and analytics via google services, samsung related stuff always sends analytics, even if you do not facebook, the damned thing is always lurking and consuming resources, google app and chrome also are resources-hoarders, I use ccswe to disable all useless firebase, crash, analytics, ad listeners, campaign trackers, components and some boot listeners within many apps
lbreak said:
Hi all,
I seem to get this issue with pretty much every single Android Device I've owned in the last 8 years, particularly Samsung ones, and that's the good old "Android System" battery drain.
I have tried everything over the years, except rooting the device, but nothing has ever worked as a permanent fix.
I have tried:
- resetting device
- clearing cache
- restarting phone
- Shutting down background tasks
- Low battery usage location settings
- Deleting apps
- a million other things
But one way or another, Android System will eventually make its way back to the top of my battery usage stats.
I've come to the conclusion that it's the OS itself that's badly coded which causes this.
Has anyone, anyone, ever figured out a way to get on top of Android System battery drain?
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Enable Developer option
then go Settings» Developer options» running services
Here you should see a bunch of services running. A number of them should fall under Android System, close all related to Android System (it is ok to do so)
Then under Google Play services close all (well two of those services are persistent so they will auto start back in a couple seconds, lockscreeen service and Google location service), nothing you can do about this other than to disable Google play services which would then cause a lot of apps to cry like pandora, samsung internet browser, play store, YouTube etc.
Then go settings» apps» 3 dots at upper-right hand corner» show system apps» android system» battery» disable background activity
On each restart Android system background activity will be automatically enabled so just disable it on each restart.
The thing is it could be a number of apps or services that is causing the issue through Android system but a good indicator of which app might be causing your issue is to check Android system memory which is right below background activity, there it should show which app is accessing the memory through it the most. Disable that app or clean its cache/data.
lennie said:
The thing is it could be a number of apps or services that is causing the issue through Android system but a good indicator of which app might be causing your issue is to check Android system memory which is right below background activity, a.
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Thanks lennie,
How do I check this?
lbreak said:
Thanks lennie,
How do I check this?
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It's in the same place you'd find background activity, but instead of going to battery, go to memory.
settings» apps» 3 dots at upper-right hand corner» show system apps» android system» memory
At the top above average memory usage you should see the app.
I would recommend using a package disabler (ccswe from the play store or package disabler pro from their website)
You can disable a lot of things but DO NOT disable
boot agent (could lock your phone in bootloop)
Android system (could hand your phone on boot up)
One UI (unless you have a different launcher installed and enabled)
IMS is important too
There's one more I can't remember right now, but you get the idea.
If you're not too sure if something can get disabled with no harsh side effects then just post the question
settings» apps» 3 dots at upper-right hand corner» show system apps» android system» mobile data
Shows a list of all the apps that have access to the network through Android system, disable the the ones you're sure you're not using or will use. That should shorten the list of potential battery drainer.
Thanks again.
It just shows an app called "face" under Android System memory. I assume that's for face unlock.
Be careful with disabling OneUI, because it will also disable the task manager and you'll got a really ugly one instead.
lbreak said:
Thanks again.
It just shows an app called "face" under Android System memory. I assume that's for face unlock.
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Yeah that's for face unlock. I used to use it but since the fingerprint scanner update it has been working really well with my screen protector so I don't really need it anymore so I have it disabled.
If you don't use face.
How i use my phone to maximize my battery is simple. Things I don't use or need I keep them disabled, some I simply disable until I need them like the play store or galaxy store etc. Every other day or so I would check those apps to see if there is an update I might want to install.
lennie said:
Yeah that's for face unlock. I used to use it but since the fingerprint scanner update it has been working really well with my screen protector so I don't really need it anymore so I have it disabled.
If you don't use face.
How i use my phone to maximize my battery is simple. Things I don't use or need I keep them disabled, some I simply disable until I need them like the play store or galaxy store etc. Every other day or so I would check those apps to see if there is an update I might want to install.
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I only use the fingerprint sensor, but it's still shows (only) Face there. Any idea?
There's really no fix to Android System drain, it's especially worse when you're on mobile data.
Hi all,
Just converted from Huawei to this beauty which I already love dearly
Though, having big issues with two apps I really *need* to stay active in the background. Both apps do have the option "Run in background" which are activated. I've also made sure those two apps are not Battery Optimized. I've also made sure they have all needed Access Rights (Camera, Mic, etc etc). Still - when the lid are closed and a while after, the two apps stops receiving notifications. Also, the two apps stop sending information back to the systems telling that I have the apps active and are monitoring/on watch. Opening the lid are enough to wake the apps up enough to receive notifications. I can honestly not use this phone unless I find the cause of this whatever are killing the apps. The notifications are alarms from two different monitoring systems.
Are there any other places/settings I can look to find out why the apps stop responding?
Also, where are now the setting where I can tell that these two apps should autostart on boot?
In advance, thx.
Br,
Stigh
Maybe turning this on would help maintain a stable connection: settings>apps & notifications>Special app access>Unrestricted data
I also have a Huawei, unfortunately the option of AutoStart apps isn't available in this phone as far as I know.
Can I ask if you are also having background 'clicks' from the earpiece when talking on the phone?
My wife is having same issue with her lg stylo 6, I say it's ram issues since she's using 99% ram all the time. Hers will close apps even if recent button was hit and went right back to the same one. If you find a fix lmk, also check ram and usage.
Yoni160 said:
Maybe turning this on would help maintain a stable connection: settings>apps & notifications>Special app access>Unrestricted data
I also have a Huawei, unfortunately the option of AutoStart apps isn't available in this phone as far as I know.
Can I ask if you are also having background 'clicks' from the earpiece when talking on the phone?
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Hi, thx for the feedback, I will test this setting and see - and report back Though, as it works as long as the phone do not fall into Deep Sleep, how can it be unrestricted data? To me, it seems Android go into some Deep Sleep state some time after you close the phone - I suspect this is a Motorola-thing, not Android 10.
No, I have no 'clicks' in the backround when using phone itsself or BT headset. Have not tested the original cabled earpiece though.
Pls i just bought a samsung galaxy s9 (exynos) but to my surprise the phone heats up a lot, the screen on time is not great and battery temperature is most time above 40°c. I just want to know if the battery temperature is normal for the phone
When you just buy a phone, it is best to return to the factory settings. Especially if the phone is used, then it still needs to. Update the system first if an update is available. Then back up all the data
Boot to recovery and format data/format cache
Go to settings/about/software info/tap 7-8 times on Build number and this unlocked hidden developer options.
Go back to settings and open developer options and go to find "Background process" and set this to "no background process"
After each restart of the phone, this option returns to the default value. So you have to work every time. The only downside to what I've noticed is that the weather widget doesn't do auto-refresh.
Go to settings/aplication/.../show system apps and
And go in order and go into every application that is irrelevant, click on battery and then turn off background activity.
This reduced my temperature from 35-36 to 27-28 degrees while I was using an unrooted device.
If you use facebook instagram, snapchat and turn off background activity on them. You will receive notifications again.
And in device control, let everything stay by default phone optimization because that way the phone will be a little cooler. When all those optimizations are disabled, more processes work and the phone is hot.