Is it possible to enable 5G on the LTE S20 Ultra? - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

S20 and s20+ LTE models don't have the 5G bands in them so its impossible to get 5G on those, but however, All the s20 ultras, 5G or LTE have the 5G bands, but its disabled via software on the LTE one, is it possible to enable 5G somehow on them?

Yes they may have the bands, but I'm pretty sure that they are missing the physical antennas required for 5g to work

AhmedMomen said:
S20 and s20+ LTE models don't have the 5G bands in them so its impossible to get 5G on those, but however, All the s20 ultras, 5G or LTE have the 5G bands, but its disabled via software on the LTE one, is it possible to enable 5G somehow on them?
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The Snapdragon x50 modem is separate from the SD 865 SOC so even though it might appear on the software the phisical component is not present.
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mrnovanova said:
The Snapdragon x50 modem is separate from the SD 865 SOC so even though it might appear on the software the phisical component is not present.
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Does the same go for the exynos model?
Cause thats the one i have, i think i heard somewhere that the LTE s20 ultra has the bands and the phyisical components required but its disabled via software in LTE countries.

AhmedMomen said:
Does the same go for the exynos model?
Cause thats the one i have, i think i heard somewhere that the LTE s20 ultra has the bands and the phyisical components required but its disabled via software in LTE countries.
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The Exynos modem 5123 is also a separate module so the same should apply.
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I purchased s20 ultra in India. I thought this a 5g phone but it shows only LTE. Paying so much money for a 4g phone is a big blow for anyone but I think that our xda develpers can enable the 5g in s20 ultra. Please do something to make it work on 5g network.

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5G???

Does all the S20 series devices support 5G or anyone device will have the 5G support??
The Galaxy S20 Ultra is reported to be a 5G device. No mention yet if the lower priced models will offer 5G.
ArunRocker said:
Does all the S20 series devices support 5G or anyone device will have the 5G support??
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I don't think that every S20 series device will support 5G but any one or two models may have the 5G support.
Patent filings indicate that there will be 4G and 5G models of all three devices. 4G models will be sold only in countries with no immediate 5G infrastructure plans, however.
ArunRocker said:
Does all the S20 series devices support 5G or anyone device will have the 5G support??
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you just need to pay more for the 5G model
I hope there is a software switch that will allow us to turn 5G off for those of us who do not live in a 5G coverage area. Not all of us live in major metropolitan areas.
galaxy S20
G980 : 4G
G981: 5G
galaxy S20+:
G985:4G
G986: 5G
galaxy ultra:
G988 5G
Samsung galaxy S20 ultra and S20+ has a separate version of 5G right?

Carrier Aggregation Combos

I'm trying to use an S20 (G981U1) outside of US, but can't seem to do CA for LTE band 3 1800MHz (B3+B3). I'm currently stuck with LTE on that band, it seems that this version isn't capable of CA_1C for band 3. Does anyone knows if this can be activated somehow? I've seen that for the S8+ was a method to add new combos , but I'm not sure this will work for S20 and I really don't want to mess with the EFS at this moment.
Any heads up?
y3kt said:
I'm trying to use an S20 (G981U1) outside of US, but can't seem to do CA for LTE band 3 1800MHz (B3+B3). I'm currently stuck with LTE on that band, it seems that this version isn't capable of CA_1C for band 3. Does anyone knows if this can be activated somehow? I've seen that for the S8+ was a method to add new combos , but I'm not sure this will work for S20 and I really don't want to mess with the EFS at this moment.
Any heads up?
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You might be able to flash that countries firmware to the phone.
Samsung S20 5G (US) doesn't support 4G CA combos used in EU: https://cacombos.com/device?model=SM-G981U .
And because Qualcomm version used in US, you can't flash EU-version firmware because in EU networks use Exynos.
olkitu said:
Samsung S20 5G (US) doesn't support 4G CA combos used in EU: https://cacombos.com/device?model=SM-G981U .
And because Qualcomm version used in US, you can't flash EU-version firmware because in EU networks use Exynos.
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does Samsung galaxy S20 -G9810(HK) will support CA in india?
freeaac said:
does Samsung galaxy S20 -G9810(HK) will support CA in india?
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Don't know - free to test but I recommend global variant for Indian market not HK.

Enable 5G on LTE S20 Ultra

I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
enOrebmuN said:
I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
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buy a 5g model
elliwigy said:
buy a 5g model
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There isn't a 5G model in my country. Don't you think I would've done it if i could?
mikey_sk said:
sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
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Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
enOrebmuN said:
Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
CappyT said:
The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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I've actually seen a teardown of the Ultra i'm using, and it has the exact same 5G modem as the advertised Exynos 5G G988B Ultra.
Thanks for the input.
CappyT said:
The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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Forgot to add the source. https://www.techinsights.com/blog/samsung-galaxy-s20-teardown-analysis
Edit: Do you think that perhaps changing the CSC might do the trick?
Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
mikey_sk said:
Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
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As far as i know, Indonesia and some parts of SEA, and parts of Europe (Central and Eastern). Could be more widespread but in essence it's an exactly the same phone, same model number, identical internals as the 5G version, just with the 5G modem disabled for some reason. It doesn't cost a penny less.
try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
farookh said:
try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
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It doesn't let me
https://imgur.com/a/izcQ5sS
it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
vash_h said:
it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
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That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
enOrebmuN said:
That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
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A CSC based switch is definitely possible, if you switch to a CSC from a country where the 5G model is officially sold, you might be able to use it, but no way of knowing for sure without visiting that country, switching the CSC and inserting a 5G-ready SIM card.
Has anybody tried and tested this?
What if you install a S20 5G firmware instead of the default one?
Please tell anyone how to enable 5g in S20 ultra Indian version.

S20 5G SM-G981B/DS Does it support mmWave?

Samsung technical expert on chat said yes,
the modem the phone has seems to indicate it does (unless samsung disable something on the S20 5G specifically to limit it to Sub6 bands only),
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
this webite seems to say no (no mmWave bands listed),
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f3e652f5
to add to my confusion the verison S20 5G originally didn't support mmWave until they released the S20 5G UW
I'm in the UK on EE. I just would like to know if the phone can or can't receive mmWave if it was transmitted to it?
Lothandyr said:
Samsung technical expert on chat said yes,
the modem the phone has seems to indicate it does (unless samsung disable something on the S20 5G specifically to limit it to Sub6 bands only),
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
this webite seems to say no (no mmWave bands listed),
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f3e652f5
to add to my confusion the verison S20 5G originally didn't support mmWave until they released the S20 5G UW
I'm in the UK on EE. I just would like to know if the phone can or can't receive mmWave if it was transmitted to it?
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I think you're out of luck if you didn't purchase the 5G UW. There is no modem technology currently available that can leverage 5G signals in the sub-6 GHz spectrum and 5G signals in the mmWave spectrum at the same time. You can only get one or the other.
Lothandyr said:
Samsung technical expert on chat said yes,
the modem the phone has seems to indicate it does (unless samsung disable something on the S20 5G specifically to limit it to Sub6 bands only),
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
this webite seems to say no (no mmWave bands listed),
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f3e652f5
to add to my confusion the verison S20 5G originally didn't support mmWave until they released the S20 5G UW
I'm in the UK on EE. I just would like to know if the phone can or can't receive mmWave if it was transmitted to it?
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S20 5G does not support mmWave, chart of supported devices here
https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-confusing-1084755/
*Detection* said:
S20 5G does not support mmWave, chart of supported devices here
https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-confusing-1084755/
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Not so, Verizon released 5G mmWave for the S20, Plus and Ultra devices on June 4th. They're labeled as S20 5G UW Models, other carriers to follow. A couple of drawbacks for the S20 Base Model, you're limited to 8GB of RAM and no MicroSD.
https://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s20-5g-uw-less-ram-no-expandable-storage/amp/

Question 5G Frequency Bands

I bought a Galaxy S22 Ultra Model SM-N986UZKAXAA Is there a way to update it to have the n78 5G band?
The hardware doesn't seem to support it.
Some variants do.
Maybe it's firmware...

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