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US Models Note 10/Note 10+ Crossflash????

Did anyone get the chance to see nomenclatures of US models? I'm mainly concerned about cross flashing, really hope it's gonna be possible this time around, unlike the s10 5g.

I think them days are long gone with the bootloaders been locked down for the US models

We've known the nomenclatures for a long time, ever since before the FCC filings. Standard Note 10 and Note 10+ will behave the same as Note 9 - crossflashing included. I've already posted both U and U1 firmware

dallen5 said:
I think them days are long gone with the bootloaders been locked down for the US models
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If it's signed by samsung wouldnt it not matter?

gastondefer said:
Did anyone get the chance to see nomenclatures of US models? I'm mainly concerned about cross flashing, really hope it's gonna be possible this time around, unlike the s10 5g.
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10 and 10+, yes. 10+ 5g will only be Verizon as the radio is different and only supported on their network. So you can cross flash any Note 10 as long as it's not the 5g.

I know I am uneducated when it comes to these sorts of things and I apologize for my ignorance but if either of you could fill me in, I would love to know what exactly "crossflashing" is?

kylekrazy said:
I know I am uneducated when it comes to these sorts of things and I apologize for my ignorance but if either of you could fill me in, I would love to know what exactly "crossflashing" is?
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Flashing other carrier or unlocked firmware to your device since hardware wise there is no difference.
Example. On the note 9, ATT builds leaked early on quite a bit so if you wanted the latest before it was officially released you could flash it to your device as long as it was the same processor.
Even applied to the Pie beta that released for the unlocked models.

pcriz said:
Flashing other carrier or unlocked firmware to your device since hardware wise there is no difference.
Example. On the note 9, ATT builds leaked early on quite a bit so if you wanted the latest before it was officially released you could flash it to your device as long as it was the same processor.
Even applied to the Pie beta that released for the unlocked models.
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I attempted this on an S6 and could never successfully get the modems/radios to right... or maybe I had the data misconfigured? Who knows... but that is remarkable! If you don't mind me asking one more simple question, does this trip knox? Because I'd love to have the unlocked firmware on my VZW but I'm not sure of any specifics on the warranty. Although, I know if I ever DO have to send it in, I'll just brick it from the inside with wrong firmware.

kylekrazy said:
I attempted this on an S6 and could never successfully get the modems/radios to right... or maybe I had the data misconfigured? Who knows... but that is remarkable! If you don't mind me asking one more simple question, does this trip knox? Because I'd love to have the unlocked firmware on my VZW but I'm not sure of any specifics on the warranty. Although, I know if I ever DO have to send it in, I'll just brick it from the inside with wrong firmware.
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Nah. It won't trip Knox since the firmware being flashed is signed by Samsung.
You can always flash back to stock as well. Stock in this case being the software it shipped with.

kylekrazy said:
I attempted this on an S6 and could never successfully get the modems/radios to right... or maybe I had the data misconfigured? Who knows... but that is remarkable! If you don't mind me asking one more simple question, does this trip knox? Because I'd love to have the unlocked firmware on my VZW but I'm not sure of any specifics on the warranty. Although, I know if I ever DO have to send it in, I'll just brick it from the inside with wrong firmware.
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S6s are not cross-flashable. Samsung didn't start that until the S7 and Note 8

it would've been awesome since in the FCC docs shows that N975F (Exynos LTE) and N976B (Exynos EU 5G) have identical hardware!
also Verizon is using the SAME SKU model codes for both LTE and 5G models
i posted the details in reddit earlier (r/galaxynote10 titled "Crossflashing LTE <-> 5G Models?" sorry i can't posts link....10 post count thingy)
worth the shot?

ST-Cyclone921R said:
it would've been awesome since in the FCC docs shows that N975F (Exynos LTE) and N976B (Exynos EU 5G) have identical hardware!
also Verizon is using the SAME SKU model codes for both LTE and 5G models
i posted the details in reddit earlier (r/galaxynote10 titled "Crossflashing LTE <-> 5G Models?" sorry i can't posts link....10 post count thingy)
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1. N975F and N976B can't have identical hardware. The 5G model has 5G antennas, and the 4G model does not. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
2. Verizon is NOT using the same SKU codes for the 4G and the 5G models. The 4G model is N975U and the 5G model is N976V. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.

iBowToAndroid said:
1. N975F and N976B can't have identical hardware. The 5G model has 5G antennas, and the 4G model does not. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
2. Verizon is NOT using the same SKU codes for the 4G and the 5G models. The 4G model is N975U and the 5G model is N976V. I can guarantee you that firmware will not be cross-flashable between those 2 models.
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that was my understanding too! yet fcc document explicitly says that n975f & n976b have identical antenna's and WWAN circuit! (i don't want to spam around just to get to the 10 posts count, sorry to post the link with spaces)
please check this out:
reddit . com/r/galaxynote10/comments/ctgxz5/crossflashing_lte_5g_models/

ST-Cyclone921R said:
that was my understanding too! yet fcc document explicitly says that n975f & n976b have identical antenna's and WWAN circuit! (i don't want to spam around just to get to the 10 posts count, sorry to post the link with spaces)
please check this out:
reddit . com/r/galaxynote10/comments/ctgxz5/crossflashing_lte_5g_models/
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I could not possibly be eyerolling any harder right now.
I'm sure that as far as the 4G hardware is concerned, yes, most of it is the same, same location, etc. But the FCC IDs for the 4G and 5G models are NOT the same. I promise you that the 4G models do NOT have a 5G antenna, and you will never be able to flash 5G firmware to a 4G device.

iBowToAndroid said:
I could not possibly be eyerolling any harder right now.
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i know i know, no need for the attitude
iBowToAndroid said:
I'm sure that as far as the 4G hardware is concerned, yes, most of it is the same, same location, etc. But the FCC IDs for the 4G and 5G models are NOT the same. I promise you that the 4G models do NOT have a 5G antenna, and you will never be able to flash 5G firmware to a 4G device.
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That's what I suspected initially, is that they meant the hardware is identical in the scope of that report, in other words, "as far as LTE is concerned". especially since the 5g chip is external to the SoC.
About verizon, to be clear, am not mindlessly hoping for a "free 5g", as clearly its not the case in hardware; but how would you explain Verizon using SM-N976VZKAVZW for the LTE SKU and SM-N976VZWAVZW for the 5G sku? is it simply a typo in samsungs' support website?

ST-Cyclone921R said:
ihow would you explain Verizon using SM-N976VZKAVZW for the LTE SKU and SM-N976VZWAVZW for the 5G sku? is it simply a typo in samsungs' support website?
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Yup. See all the other SKUs for the 4G N10+ on that page? They're all N975U

iBowToAndroid said:
Yup. See all the other SKUs for the 4G N10+ on that page? They're all N975U
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That makes perfect sense!

Flashing note 10+ 5g
Hello guys, I have a chance to buy a cheap sm-n976v with bad imei. Phone is locked by Verzion. I'm living in UK and I wonder if I flash the phone with sm-n976b firmware can I get it unlocked and fully working? Sammobile said that should be exactly same model. What is a difference between V and B firmwares? Or is better to pay for unlocking the phone instead flashing it? Can I flash it with European version without broke it?

donbibon said:
Hello guys, I have a chance to buy a cheap sm-n976v with bad imei. Phone is locked by Verzion. I'm living in UK and I wonder if I flash the phone with sm-n976b firmware can I get it unlocked and fully working? Sammobile said that should be exactly same model. What is a difference between V and B firmwares? Or is better to pay for unlocking the phone instead flashing it? Can I flash it with European version without broke it?
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You cannot flash any other firmware to that model - and even if you could, solely flashing firmware would not SIM unlock it. I can give you a recommendation for a 3rd party unlocking source if needed

Probably that will be better in this case. Thanks

N9750/DS (dual Sim) exynos chip, flash tmo csc?

I'm in a market for dual Sim note 10 plus from overseas. Possible to flash that phone to use tmobile csc (enable volte, wifi calling, etc) without unlocking bootloader or trigger Knox?

As far as I know, the 9750 is snapdragon variant, not exynos
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Abu-khulzat said:
As far as I know, the 9750 is snapdragon variant, not exynos
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Could I buy n975f/ds (this one should be exynos) and flash tmobile csc?
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Not without root.
If your goal is VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on T-Mobile, then there is no need to flash the CSC because T-Mobile has opened up their network for unlocked device. I am getting those functionalities on my dual sim S8+ and also Note 10+ without flashing anything.

meowone said:
Not without root.
If your goal is VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on T-Mobile, then there is no need to flash the CSC because T-Mobile has opened up their network for unlocked device. I am getting those functionalities on my dual sim S8+ and also Note 10+ without flashing anything.
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So basically call tmobile and ask them to add the imei number into their system? What about Samsung Pay? Will it work without csc?
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Actually, both of my phone works without calling in. I think they opened it up sometime last month. Samsung Pay is going to be dependent on your firmware. I am using Australian firmware on S8+ and Taiwan firmware on my Note 10+ which allows me to use Samaung Pay in US (without the rewards program). If you root and flash CSC, Samaung Pay is gone forever due to tripping Knox.

meowone said:
Actually, both of my phone works without calling in. I think they opened it up sometime last month. Samsung Pay is going to be dependent on your firmware. I am using Australian firmware on S8+ and Taiwan firmware on my Note 10+ which allows me to use Samaung Pay in US (without the rewards program). If you root and flash CSC, Samaung Pay is gone forever due to tripping Knox.
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So I'm looking into the same, want dual SIM on T-Mobile service but with Samsung pay and like the us shop Samsung app.
From your last response seems like pay will work but no other Samsung apps like for cashback and award

joogle said:
So I'm looking into the same, want dual SIM on T-Mobile service but with Samsung pay and like the us shop Samsung app.
From your last response seems like pay will work but no other Samsung apps like for cashback and award
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That's correct, Samsung Pay registers all my US cards but no US rewards program.

meowone said:
Not without root.
If your goal is VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling on T-Mobile, then there is no need to flash the CSC because T-Mobile has opened up their network for unlocked device. I am getting those functionalities on my dual sim S8+ and also Note 10+ without flashing anything.
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hi,
how is your experience in term of data connection with Note 10+ exynos on T-Mobile network ? when i check details specification of Note 10+ exynos (N975f) on sammobile, it is missing a lot some of T-Mobile's LTE radio frequencies, https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/specs/SM-N975F/ . even way less than Note 8 exynos LTE bands .
is information on sammobile site incorrect or am i looking at wrong place ?
thank you !

mailistman said:
hi,
how is your experience in term of data connection with Note 10+ exynos on T-Mobile network ? when i check details specification of Note 10+ exynos (N975f) on sammobile, it is missing a lot of T-Mobile's LTE radio frequencies, https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/specs/SM-N975F/ . even way less than Note 8 exynos LTE bands .
is information on sammobile site incorrect or am i looking at wrong place ?
thank you !
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I don't know if the F variant has fewer bands than the N variant but my N is only missing I think band 66 for Tmobile.
Also I'm not sure about wifi calling since that is not something locked down in their end anyway. The device needs to have software and CSC settings to enable it, both of which are absent on at least the N variant and historically F variant as well since neither device was meant for the USA market.
VoLTE works for me, but no wifi calling since both pieces are missing.

mailistman said:
hi,
how is your experience in term of data connection with Note 10+ exynos on T-Mobile network ? when i check details specification of Note 10+ exynos (N975f) on sammobile, it is missing a lot of T-Mobile's LTE radio frequencies, https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-note-10-plus/specs/SM-N975F/ . even way less than Note 8 exynos LTE bands .
is information on sammobile site incorrect or am i looking at wrong place ?
thank you !
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I do not have the Exynos Note 10+, I have the Snapdragon Note 10+ but it is also missing similar T-Mobile bands (66,71). You can check the LTE bands on the Samsung UK website and see that the phone covers majority of the T-Mobile bands. Due to the missing bands and lack of proper carrier aggregation support, you might experience slower speed and/or poor reception in rural area. But general usage is not reallg affected unless you are downloading a large file or constantly streaming in 4K.

meowone said:
I do not have the Exynos Note 10+, I have the Snapdragon Note 10+ but it is also missing similar T-Mobile bands (66,71). You can check the LTE bands on the Samsung UK website and see that the phone covers majority of the T-Mobile bands. Due to the missing bands and lack of proper carrier aggregation support, you might experience slower speed and/or poor reception in rural area. But general usage is not reallg affected unless you are downloading a large file or constantly streaming in 4K.
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thank you for your confirmation. i feel upgrading to N975f on t-mobile network will like be in a situation you pay more for less capable device. but it will depends on where you are going to use it most.
OOT, i am wondering why samsuck doesn't make one device with unlockable BL using exynos/SD to rule most (if not all) LTE frequencies, i.e like newer iphone A2104, to capture more customers if there is no technical boundaries
Kalm_Traveler said:
Also I'm not sure about wifi calling since that is not something locked down in their end anyway. The device needs to have software and CSC settings to enable it, both of which are absent on at least the N variant and historically F variant as well since neither device was meant for the USA market.
VoLTE works for me, but no wifi calling since both pieces are missing.
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on my Note8 n950fd/s, wifi calling & HD calling (VoLTE) work fine after CSC mod using tekhd CSC DETONATOR INT, tested on t-mobile and their relevant MVNOs (Metro, Simple). so it is just a matter of CSC configuration, isn't it ?

mailistman said:
thank you for your confirmation. i feel upgrading to N975f on t-mobile network will like be in a situation you pay more for less capable device. but it will depends on where you are going to use it most.
OOT, i am wondering why samsuck doesn't make one device with unlockable BL using exynos/SD to rule most (if not all) LTE frequencies, i.e like newer iphone A2104, to capture more customers if there is no technical boundaries
on my Note8 n950fd/s, wifi calling & HD calling (VoLTE) work fine after CSC mod using tekhd CSC DETONATOR INT, tested on t-mobile and their relevant MVNOs (Metro, Simple). so it is just a matter of CSC configuration, isn't it ?
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I am guessing if Samsung can have their way, they would push their Exynos chipset everywhere but due to carrier restrictions they end up having Qualcomm in the US and China. I just wish they did all Qualcomm phones like Sony and have carrier aggregation tables from all of the regions available. I believe this is also a problem with iPhone as well but its less relevant for US users - iPhone that can do band 71 does not cover band 28, and only the HK version of the iPhone have physical dual sim.
The good news is that T-Mobile just recently open up their VoLTE, VoWifi to unlocked international so there is no need to jump through hoops (root and flashing CSC) to get those services. Just hoping AT&T would follow before they shutdown their 3G network.

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on my Note8 n950fd/s, wifi calling & HD calling (VoLTE) work fine after CSC mod using tekhd CSC DETONATOR INT, tested on t-mobile and their relevant MVNOs (Metro, Simple). so it is just a matter of CSC configuration, isn't it ?
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Not just CSC config. If you look at his pack (his is what got me started on the N variant patch I made for the Note 8) there are a few Tmobile system apps that are taken from a US Tmobile rom. The only difference between the F and N in that sense (and the reason his zip wouldn't work on N devices) was that the F had a couple general vowifi files that were absent on the N, and for some reason the N's included digital TV system interfered with the VPN connection that Tmobile wifi calling creates. My N patch basically took the CSC files, the same Tmobile files as TeKHD's patch and those additional framework binaries which were already present in F firmware and deleted the Korean TV thing to stop it from blocking the wifi calling connection.
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I am guessing if Samsung can have their way, they would push their Exynos chipset everywhere but due to carrier restrictions they end up having Qualcomm in the US and China. I just wish they did all Qualcomm phones like Sony and have carrier aggregation tables from all of the regions available. I believe this is also a problem with iPhone as well but its less relevant for US users - iPhone that can do band 71 does not cover band 28, and only the HK version of the iPhone have physical dual sim.
The good news is that T-Mobile just recently open up their VoLTE, VoWifi to unlocked international so there is no need to jump through hoops (root and flashing CSC) to get those services. Just hoping AT&T would follow before they shutdown their 3G network.
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The reason they don't bring it here is that their exynos modem doesn't support CDMA (Verizon and sprint), whereas Qualcomm's do. Most of the world runs on GSM but since we've moved on to LTE and 5G hopefully this will no longer be an issue in the future.
Also, Tmobile didn't ever have those locked. My Note 8 got VoLTE stock, just no wifi calling for the above mentioned reason. Also for that reason you still need the Tmobile CSC patches to add those missing software pieces even on Pie.

Kalm_Traveler said:
Not just CSC config. If you look at his pack (his is what got me started on the N variant patch I made for the Note 8) there are a few Tmobile system apps that are taken from a US Tmobile rom. The only difference between the F and N in that sense (and the reason his zip wouldn't work on N devices) was that the F had a couple general vowifi files that were absent on the N, and for some reason the N's included digital TV system interfered with the VPN connection that Tmobile wifi calling creates. My N patch basically took the CSC files, the same Tmobile files as TeKHD's patch and those additional framework binaries which were already present in F firmware and deleted the Korean TV thing to stop it from blocking the wifi calling connection.
The reason they don't bring it here is that their exynos modem doesn't support CDMA (Verizon and sprint), whereas Qualcomm's do. Most of the world runs on GSM but since we've moved on to LTE and 5G hopefully this will no longer be an issue in the future.
Also, Tmobile didn't ever have those locked. My Note 8 got VoLTE stock, just no wifi calling for the above mentioned reason. Also for that reason you still need the Tmobile CSC patches to add those missing software pieces even on Pie.
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wow... thank you for the education.

I noticed that the CSC mod is for the note 9, Can anyone please direct me to a tutorial on how to set the scs for t-mobile on my note 10+, sm-n975f/ds?
This is the first I was able to find anything about the CSC mod using tekhd CSC DETONATOR INT. Thanks for mentioning it here!

On the Note 10 + (SM-N9750/DS) VOLTE and WiFi Calling work on the stock CSC (BRI or TGY).

Ok thanks for letting me know bro!
Sorry But I just looked through the CSC list and did not see anything listed that contains the phrase (BRI OR TGY)
Sorry I am such and noob and probably do not know what your referring to, ok
I noticed that a few the oem csc have (t-mobile) none are English would anyone of these still work? I am assuming yes, especially because before I put the Brazilian csc I remember glancing at the current firmware that was on the phone and it was not t-mobile, I don't remember exactly I think it was UK Vodafone and it still worked until I got to Brazil I suppose it started to malfunction because I did not have a Brazilian Sim card to use lol
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On the Note 10 + (SM-N9750/DS) VOLTE and WiFi Calling work on the stock CSC (BRI or TGY).
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revized said:
Ok thanks for letting me know bro!
Sorry But I just looked through the CSC list and did not see anything listed that contains the phrase (BRI OR TGY)
Sorry I am such and noob and probably do not know what your referring to, ok
I noticed that a few the oem csc have (t-mobile) none are English would anyone of these still work? I am assuming yes, especially because before I put the Brazilian csc I remember glancing at the current firmware that was on the phone and it was not t-mobile, I don't remember exactly I think it was UK Vodafone and it still worked until I got to Brazil I suppose it started to malfunction because I did not have a Brazilian Sim card to use lol
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In About Phone under Software Information. Here's mine. It was originally a BRI device but I flashed the TGY CSC on it hence is says TGY, TGY, TGY, BRI. Wifi calling and VOLTE work on either CSC.

Thanks for the reply.
Hmmmmmm. But on sammobile I still do not see TGY OR BRI
May I please ask one last question, where did you get this csc file from?
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On the Note 10 + (SM-N9750/DS) VOLTE and WiFi Calling work on the stock CSC (BRI or TGY).
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ajsmsg78 said:
In About Phone under Software Information. Here's mine. It was originally a BRI device but I flashed the TGY CSC on it hence is says TGY, TGY, TGY, BRI. Wifi calling and VOLTE work on either CSC.
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SM-N976V Note 10 plus 5G portability (carrier switch)

I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
Thank you

Cashreedhar said:
I'm looking to spend on Note 10 plus 5G, currently on Verizon but the biggest question that I couldn't find the answer is if in the future, I will have to stay with Verizon forever if I want to use 5G on this phone.
Samsung released different snapdragon models for each carrier, but what if I want to switch to Tmobile or AT&T with this phone? Is there a workaround to make these phones work with different carriers, especially with 5G?
S10 5G is out for many months, but I couldn't find a thread showing portability. Although selling the phone for a discounted price and buying other one that works on different carrier is an option, looking to find if it is practical to use 5G when we switch carrier.
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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers

The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.

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once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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That is very nice to hear. Does the phone work with other carriers once sim unlocked without changing the phone software? Does 5G work on other carriers too, if the bandwidths match? Thanks

coilbio said:
The lte radios should be the same, the 5g will never work across carriers for now considering theyre taping into different spectrum. Modems and antenna designs are different between the different 5g methodology each carrier adopted.
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I may not understand much details of these modems, however my understanding is that there are some 5G bands common between carriers.
Verizon holds 76% of total available 28GHz spectrum bands and and 48% 39GHz 5g spectrum bands.
At&T holds 40% of 39GHz bands and Tmobile holds 12% of 28GHz bands. If I'm not mistaken the modem in Note 10 5G model supports 600MHz which is new Tmobile band. So, if Note 10 modem supports those 2 5G bands on verizon, technically it should work on at&t and t-mobile too? Although these may work in different cities as of now

Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.

coilbio said:
Yes and no, I don't know if it has the right antennas, they matter to match the signal length and the obvious is how locked the radio is.
You forget Verizon are evil about keeping their phones there.
It could be the phone is capable but will never be able because it's a Verizon phone and they nerfed something.
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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now

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In the past we were able to unlock blocked antenna bands using Qualcomm QPST tool and hope there will be possibilities in the future. It's not that Verizon is evil, it applies to all carriers. There has been court ruled regulations that enabled users to take their device to other networks, but blocking 5G would be inconvenience to users, as we all know 5G is the future. I'm going to grab a Note 10 plus 5G for now
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technically they wouldnt be blocking anything if they just dont include the antennae/functionailt.. its then up to the user to research and purchase if it suits their needs.

Follow up:
After Verizon unlocked the phone, surprisingly 5G works with Tmobile without any modification. Of course not all the bands. Haven't had 5G signal so far and suddenly when I'm standing near a 5G antenna in downtown Manhattan, I had full signal

I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?

Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.

Milyenair said:
I have the same phone. I was not able to see 5G with TMobile or AT&T. I am also not able to get the Verizon hardware off my phone. ( boot logo, etc.) Any work arounds?
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nope.
the n976v only has vzw and gcf csc codes on it which both use the vzw sales code n network code.. changing carriers should work but on network as the csc should recognize this and load the correct apns n such but the bootani n vzw stuff is there to stay..

Mike02z said:
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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not odd.. its a vzw branded 5g device.. its hit or miss on other 5g networks.. they typically use different bands and frequencies and 5g variants dont contain full csc for other carriers like the non 5g devices

So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.

CamachoDjr said:
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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probably need root

CamachoDjr said:
So I'm having an issue, I'm trying to get my phone to work with Total Wireless but for some reason I cannot adjust the APN and they can't send me an update to my sim card. I can get the calls and text to work and it shows 4g but no data due to the incorrect APN. Its all grayed out with no way to add or configure it. The IMEI also says its not compatible with Total Wireless which is weird since all other verizon phones have worked before except this Note 10+ 5g.
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Where did you buy this phone? I had the same issue, when I changed the code to GCF from VZW. I had to send the phone back to Samsung, as the local samsung experience store couldn't even understand the problem. GCF is for Samsung diagnostic purposes only and they had to change the motherboard board on the phone in order to fix the issue. If your carrier 5g mmwave band is one of the band used by Verizon, you'll be able to use 5G with this phone. I was able to use 5G in NYC with TMOBILE, but not when I moved to a different state.

Mike02z said:
Odd. I have the 5G on VZW thats unlocked. My phone works fine with my TM SIM but does not pickup 5G even though my OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren gets 5G.
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I can relate the issue you're facing. I was using this phone with TMobile 5G in NYC, but when I moved to different state, I can't get the 5G reception. In order to understand this further, you need to understand the frequencies supported by TMobile and frequencies owned by Verizon. TMobile shares one of Verizon's mmwave band (only around 25%) and these antennas are limited to only few metro cities. Even if you live in one of those big cities, you need to stand close to the 5G antenna in order to get the 5G signal. I remember that I had to stand within 50ft from the antenna in order to get 5G signal (downtown Manhattan near Meridian Lane and Water st).

So I'm new to this. Ive got a Note10+ 5G from Verizon (SM-N976V). Ported over from Verizon to At&t. Works fine accept its on 4G LTE (no 5G... the Samsung S9+ went over to 5G no issues). I am told if I flash the phone to the unlocked firmware it should get rid of the Verizon "lock" and work. I have tried this as per help form Android Central however having no success flashing... I am not exactly that savvy with this stuff... Please help

elliwigy said:
once its sim unlicked it will workbwith other carriers.. ive tried it on multiole sims from dif carriers
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elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.

mbmallette said:
elliwigy, please let me know how you got your SM-N976V to work on other carriers. I've been trying to get mine to work on Visible and I can not change the APN settings.
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You can network unlock it pretty easily even if the phone isn't paid off yet. Download setedit by 4a from the play store:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.paphonb.systemuituner
and change the setting "vzw_network_lock" from a 1 to a 0. You'll have to buy the expansion pack from 4a to have a foreground guardian that'll prevent it from going back to a 1.
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https://imgur.com/qaZl4d9
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Galaxy S20+ SM G986N

Hello to all,
i recently bought the Galaxy S20+ G986N, mine is a korean version!
Now I accidentally read that the 3G/4G and 5G networks are limited! --> I did not know before!
Is it possible to unlock the networks?
Thanks in advance and regards
Daniel
PS:
Is it possible to unlock the Dual Sim version here? Since this is a SingleSim!

Allegedly yes if you bought the phone sans mobile network, pop you sim inside and talk to someone for 10 minutes, on your local network that is, it should reset to a "domestic" flavor of networks... it can be checked via the secret menu *#60# or something like that (google is your friend if not), dough snapdragon has no issue whatsoever with working on any network, the network locked ones and usa specific ones are a different thing, - even those can be made to work.
I was not aware any of the s10 and s20 series come with just a single sim as one slot can be used for sdcard and a sim... Give it a shot, you already bought the phone anyways...

I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?

danikristijan said:
I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?
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In fact 5G limited not only by software, but by hardware too, every band protocol of 5G requires appropriate specific antenna to be installed in your device. Moreover, you can't flash anything except the firmware designed for N version (no U/U1 whatsoever options) because of boot-loader.

Thanks for your reply.
For mmwave you need hardware, but I guess for Sub6 it's only limited by sw?!?

5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps

nguyenlucky said:
5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps
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Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?

danikristijan said:
Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?
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It's possible (4G bands) on some old phones (pre-835 era), but not so much these days though

Thanks for your reply. Not so much means, currently no possibility?

Question What's the deal with 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ?

Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?

The only thing I could find from Google was this article https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10082009?hl=en

Have you gotten the December update for your P6P yet? I believe it has some 5G fixes, although I don't use 5G so I can't speak about it first hand.

google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.

clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?

5g not yet, but volte and vowifi yes

so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?

Blitzz.666 said:
Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?
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you can flash the radio

clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Where did you read this?

Vio281 said:
so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?
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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.

LLStarks said:
It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.
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I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.

Vio281 said:
I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.
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I've been reading about T-Mobile 5G. Apparently there are three tiers. The first low wave isn't that much faster than 4G. Then included with UC there's medium 2.4 ghz wave which for me is a lot faster. I live in a medium sized city and I pick up UC most of the time. I was able to get 390 Mbps with medium wave. I haven't picked up the ultra high band yet, which is of course UC also.

Blitzz.666 said:
Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?
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The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.

MrBelter said:
The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
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So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.

If it can't connect to the very short-range mmwave. You still get mid-band and nationwide 5G if your carrier has built it out.
But yes, it is a **** move that Google removes the antenna from Pro models that don't include mmwave. They just shove a piece of plastic to fill out the space.

Blitzz.666 said:
So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.
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What do you mean it cannot connect to 5G? Sub-6 will still get you more speed than you'll ever need and of course the main benefit which is capacity, also you're not going to have to stand next to the cell site to even get it, you can be miles away to benefit. mmWave isnt even deployed in most countries because in everyday use it is pointless.

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Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.

5G wont work in unsupported countries. At the ss you can see what country is supported in the Europe. You can just google it if you dont belive it (example: "5g blocked in unsupported countries google pixel")
Google blocks it, and is lying that is that countries operators fault. But it is obviously a lie. The theme is discussed from Pixel 4a 5G. Until now on the other pixels with 5G, you could install the magisk module, which unlocked everything, so how come it's the operators fault, if the lock was discovered in the software. Pixels 6/pro have a 5G modem from Samsung, so maybe that's the fault why you haven't yet been able to unlock via the magisk module
In summary, it's not about any frequencies, the Pixel 6/pro supports all 5G frequencies used in Europe. This is Google's fault alone, they are tardy and don't want to solve this problem, and probably just don't give a **** about the other countries. Best to spam on their Pixel forum and in the feedback, maybe they will finally wake up

I don't know if this helps anyone: Check carriers, their 5G networks & their 5G roaming support for Pixel phones. Make sure and choose your country from the drop-down to see the list of carriers beneath.
There's also the section above that Learn which Pixel phones can work with which kinds of 5G.

comediiian said:
Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.
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you mix between unsupported countries, and official sales countries. there are so many countries which not official sales of Pixel but google just official supported carrier, and there are so many countries that they dont at all.