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New to moto z play

Hey everyone
I had purchased moto z pay about two weeks ago ,great experience but i have some questions about some issues with the handset just to make sure it's normal or what :
1- when making a phone call i hear some strong hissing(buzzing as some says)in total it's another sound besides the voice of the other guys on phone , not a very quit voice as i used to in any mobile , is that normal ? is it soothing related with my phone carrier service or 4G or 3G stuff?
2- when applying style shell- which are very awesome - i can found out that it could be moved a little if swipe it in left or right around camera lens something like little shaky or moving, not just stick to the handset and ever never moved unless you remove it , is that normal K i was told it is at seller but you guys have it so is it normal ?
last thing is just a question and not an issue
Motorola is giving full support and update to the mobile even if it was like 4 or 5 years later , in other word how long i will be get the latest android updates for life time of the handset or maybe 3 years and will get bored and it is out ?
that's everything i want to know till now , if i had any issues i will post it here
so thank you guys so much for your help and patience
many regards

Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.

1. I think it's your carrier problem. which carrier are you using?
2. If it's never removed unless you remove it, it's ok.
3. Not 3 years! It's a very long time period.
Device is currently running 7.0 and company representative confirmed that it will get 7.1.1 soon And according to sources It'll definetly receive Android 8 in 2017 only.
Cheers!

Are you sure that's android 7.1.1? Maybe it's 7.1.2

allrightlite said:
Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.
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that's satisfied, thank you so much

Yash24 said:
1. I think it's your carrier problem. which carrier are you using?
2. If it's never removed unless you remove it, it's ok.
3. Not 3 years! It's a very long time period.
Device is currently running 7.0 and company representative confirmed that it will get 7.1.1 soon And according to sources It'll definetly receive Android 8 in 2017 only.
Cheers!
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that's what i want to hear in points 2 and 3 so thank you so much
but for point 1 , I tried to remove sim and made a call on messenger and i get same issue so i think it's not a something related with my carrier but with in call stereo
so what is that? i tried to reset and disabling all sound boosts but nothing changed

mohmyo said:
that's satisfied, thank you so much
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But I don't know. Nothing is sure. But you can later use custom roms very good on this phone, if there are really no updates anymore. But I don't know the update plans, just that we can expect all update to android O and all other we must be wait and see. But I think so because it's not a cheap phone. And because the Moto G4(much cheaper and older phone) get android O, too. So, Moto Z modells should, too. And security patches at least for 3 years. All other would not be nice from motorola.

allrightlite said:
Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.
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Z is a Flagship series and every company tries to provide updates faster in their Flagship devices.
Also, Acc to sources Z Series will be the first to get Android O.

Mi a2 lite where is Android 10 ?

The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update

Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.

robin_vilensky_ said:
The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update
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I would rather wait for them to test and fix bugs fully before releasing it. I don't want them to release it when it's not ready.. just wait

andraslate said:
Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.
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True mate ! Xiaomi ****ed the Android One project. Im totally disapointed ([email protected]!).

will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....

glassop said:
will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....
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Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)

stmr said:
Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)
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possibly it's a bit better but it's definitely not fixed.
wifi & bluetooth on - wifi speed is 1/3 of the speed with only wifi on

According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...

slimshady76 said:
According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...
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Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:

marstonpear said:
Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:
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Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.

RFD80M-75679 said:
Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.
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I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha. I wish Xiaomi cared more for their Android One devices, but it seems they only wanted hop on another trend real quick and they are technically not giving a sh*t at all. When I first bought this phone, I expected all Android One devices to run the same OS, but somehow Nokia Android One devices get better, faster and more polished updates. I wish I had gotten the Nokia 7.1 when I had the chance. Shame.

marstonpear said:
I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha.
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Wise! Beware of open source.

Demanding Extended Google Android Support

Android 10 was released on September, Xiaomi said that they will update Mix 3 on October, But looking at the situation it's started getting ridiculous, we're now at the end of February which is 5 month over the schedule and we have got nothing. I don't care if Android 10 is not different from 9, I paid for a flagship and I should get a flagship service, not to mention this is also applies for the Android security patch which is pretty old and last updated on October. Also the forgotten 5G variant which still running on MIUI 10. Is this is a joke? really?? if anyone knows who to contact from the company so we can gather and make a demand on extending our device support since we didn't get anything for a long time.
Xiaomi was a good company I don't know what's happening to it.

Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.

China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay

phorenzik said:
Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
CriGiu said:
China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
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No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.

There's so many bugs, at least in my experience. Ghost notifications, broken app switcher sometimes, glitchy gallery, disappearing lock screen notifications, the ads in the cleaner app, and so on.
It's so disappointing, all of this on a seemingly orphaned flagship.

Disappearing lock screen notifications is "feature" according to them, kinda make sense but everybody, including me, is used to other way. Ads in Xiaomi app is also a feature, but this one you can change at least, you can do that by going into that apps settings and then find "recommendations" and turn that off..

RubbaBand said:
Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
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They may not be able to, it is entirely possible that the company does not allow IP (IE, the code) to be taken off site, or worked on remotely, and depending where the employees are, they may not have access to internet that is reliable and speedy enough to be conducive to remote development. Plus if some of the European news sources are to be believed, the true scale of 2019-nCoV may be 10x higher than what China is actually sharing with the world.
Your chances of getting anything by demanding it unless you are going to try to file a suit in China (good luck) are almost zero. I agree this device is not being treated as a flagship by Xiaomi, the Redmi and Pocophone devices that sold much better got much faster updates, which is not cool. It's also been the case for a while now that the global users are second fiddle to China ROM users.
Basically there's nothing any of us can do, except wait, unless you want to try to develop your own rom, which given what I've personally run into is anything but easy for this device. I was barely able to get Android 10 booting, and lots of things were broken.

Pocophones and Redmis has much higher development in India. Even if the devs in China were affected by CoVid, and halts development, for example the Poco or Pocophone's software dev could still be running in full course. Most of the releases are Indian-first, you just need to change region to India and you'll get the update. For the Mix 3, if they're solely based in China, it'll be affected by the outbreak, release will stagger for more months but you'd still get the update nonetheless, albeit not on the time you expect it would be.
Unless not getting an Android 10 upgrade makes your phone unusable, I don't see the reason why people whine on these types of things. I mean, get a Pixel if you want to experience the latest bugs from Android.

^^ I agree, and also people should have in mind that software for Mix line does not come with all the bugs, that come to Redmi and other phones, so yes, they might get update faster, but see how many users of those phones are complaing about bugs and searching for fixes, as far I could see there are not bugs on this phone. But update is released today, at least some users are reporting that, so we will see if hos it goes, maybe I'm wrong..

Update has been released today, based on Android 10.
Doesn't Google mandate that phones should be supported for 2 or 3 years?

No, this is not AndroidOne program

I'm confused... We do have Android 10. Global has had it for a while.

No update for the 5g.
Shame on you Xiaomi.
This is my last Xiaomi.

I've had Android 10 since 2019 on my Mi Mix 3.

New update for A51 & A71

Samsung has released a new software update bringing a range of leading Galaxy S20 features to the Galaxy A series. Galaxy A51 and A71 device users will now be able to harness some of the Galaxy S20 series’ powerful innovations, designed to make the way we capture, connect and share more dynamic than ever before.
https://news.samsung.com/global/gal...features-thanks-to-the-latest-software-update
Update 14-07-2020: Updated received on my unlocked A71.
It's 1842,98MB

It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update

JordyEGNL said:
Yeah, I'm waiting for the OneUI 2.1 update
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What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?

DonAndress said:
What does it do?
I replace all stock Launchers with Nova. Will OneUI 2.1 make sense for me?
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You can search online for the difference between the two. I really want Audio Share so I can share audio with friends

DonAndress said:
It's brilliant that Samsung keeps updating the A series but honestly (probably besides some security patches) there is nothing interesting in this update
I guess that for pictures and videos pro users already use filmic Pro, open camera or port of Google camera
The rest is just gimmick.
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Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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ROTFL [emoji28]
Where did you see me saying that I'm not happy with my phone? I actually think it's brilliant (especially the battery) while costs a fraction of S20 [emoji3]
But at the same time I'm not gonna praise all software changes it gets if I don't like it. That's called being a fanboy, buddy.
You seem not to understand what I say. But you can always ask [emoji6]

Yepi69 said:
Everytime I'm here I always see a distasteful post from you. If you're not happy with your device and support it comes with it then do yourself a favor, sell it and buy something else.
Thanks.
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Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.

andreoide said:
Same goes for you towards any forum. He never said he don't like the phone, only commenting the update, wich is helpful in general or specific.
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No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.

Yepi69 said:
No it doesn't, more than once I've seen this user say this or that about the phone or the apps in it. Not talking about this thread either.
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What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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Can you guys please discuss this somewhere else? Thank you

DonAndress said:
What? Prove it then. With links to my posts. I honestly can't recall complaining about this phone. No prove means you're just talking rubbish.
I did not complain about the apps, but I admit I complained about system apps not allowed to be removed (those additional from Samsung). But dude this is always the case with all phones besides android one
I will also complain about Samsung not letting the camera to be fully used by 3rd party apps (I can't get 60 fps videos, and when I set 120 fps, the phone records in 3 fps). Do you buddy think it's fair to purchase any thing and not be able to use it however the hell you want? Jeese... But again, very popular practice.
And now - hang on and sit down - other people complain about the latest system update not me - them. I've put on hold the update as I generally don't update anything.
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If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.

Yepi69 said:
If you put updates don't hold, don't complain when something else doesn't work as intended.
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Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.

DonAndress said:
Dude, you don't even ready what I write or you constantly have problems understanding
What I point out is not due to software issues. It is all intended and common amongst manufacturers. Most can be fixed by AOSP (which we don't have) except the camera limitations. That's entirely Samsung.
Anyway, stop talking to me. Seems like you have no clue...
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Yepi69 said:
Well you are right in one way ?
I've seen you complain about system apps and the Google framework in it's entirety, but yeah. Obviously I don't have a clue right? ?
You want an Android One device, buy one. Simple as that.
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Can you guys please make a new thread and don't spam this one with your discussion? Thank you

As for updates , my UK unlocked A71 is still on April 1 update , I know the A 71 will get updates in a " big " lump.. every quarter, but I would prefer incremental updates, rather than a huge update .. if it ever gets here .. i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock

drchip42 said:
i want to to keep stock , romed before ... done it .. hence keep stock
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Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?

DonAndress said:
Hmm you didn't have good experience with different roms?
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No it was fab , got want I wanted etc.. but I've been there done that, it was good, but took time. hence now just want " out of the box" with nova launcher. It's even helped me get full java games, apps, etc on my Chromebook .
That's why I'm still here, as they say " once you tweak you can never turn back!!"

Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.

arecad said:
Being new to Samsung and how they update their devices, how long does it usually take for the update to hit all channels/versions of the phone? I have the Panama version of the A71 and have not yet received the update. Just curious as to what to expect so I don't have to spam the update button throughout the day.
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I'm in the same place. I have the a71 but am new to Samsung and how they update.

For those of you using the stock ROM, what are your plans for migrating once we reach EOL?

As I'm sure we all know here, our beloved Pixel 3 XLs are officially getting dropped by Google in about three weeks. If history repeats itself, though, we will get the Android 12 release in October followed by one last OTA in December. My typical usage pattern with a phone is:
Get the phone and use the stock ROM until the phone reaches EOL.
Once EOL is reached, move to LineageOS.
I know that this is a pattern that some others more or less follow as well, but I was wondering about what variations there are to the pattern. Does anyone here use another ROM? As much as I like LineageOS, I would be more interested in using a ROM that is basically identical to stock Android. I have read about compiling AOSP from source so as to maintain my own ROM that does just that, but from what I understand, that does not work very well for unsupported devices. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Off the top of the head... EOL only means no more official updates or support, ie security fix's...
Your fone working on a custom rom will still work, since you'd think it was the custom rom updated...
If they do stop the fone calling, there's plenty other apks for 'near field' communication
Free wifi calling hint hint..

Pachacouti said:
Off the top of the head... EOL only means no more official updates or support, ie security fix's...
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Oh yes, I know that functionality-wise the phone will continue working as before. What I want to know is, what are people considering in regards to custom ROMs?

David B. said:
Oh yes, I know that functionality-wise the phone will continue working as before. What I want to know is, what are people considering in regards to custom ROMs?
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Kl, well, me, I'm wondering this too just now, because I'm stuck with a system-as-root fone thats a pain, and now there's too many different too choose from, and if they're of the best quality, they now have to cover at least 4 different styles of booting alone, I'd watch those for the ones updating quickest

Pachacouti said:
Kl, well, me, I'm wondering this too just now, because I'm stuck with a system-as-root fone thats a pain, and now there's too many different too choose from, and if they're of the best quality, they now have to cover at least 4 different styles of booting alone, I'd watch those for the ones updating quickest
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Well, LineageOS certainly does that, but at the same time, it also takes them about 6 months to move to a new major release of Android. I was hoping that someone would know of a release that does it just as well, but is a little more flexible with migrating. I haven't found any myself.

I've yet to convince myself which version is for my fone lol

David B. said:
As I'm sure we all know here, our beloved Pixel 3 XLs are officially getting dropped by Google in about three weeks. If history repeats itself, though, we will get the Android 12 release in October followed by one last OTA in December. My typical usage pattern with a phone is:
Get the phone and use the stock ROM until the phone reaches EOL.
Once EOL is reached, move to LineageOS.
I know that this is a pattern that some others more or less follow as well, but I was wondering about what variations there are to the pattern. Does anyone here use another ROM? As much as I like LineageOS, I would be more interested in using a ROM that is basically identical to stock Android. I have read about compiling AOSP from source so as to maintain my own ROM that does just that, but from what I understand, that does not work very well for unsupported devices. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.

Not at all, they all sound excellent, however, my fone cant write to the actuall system, can mount, but no joy yet doing anything else, and no overlay works so far, the only custom os I could install was a chrooted nethunter, which was pretty lame and useless being my system as root is a pain... so I'm looking..

dcarvil said:
I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.
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My plan, at least for now, is to ride on stock until the last update is pushed, and then once LOS gets updated to 12, I will migrate. The only problem with this, though, is that it would leave me without security updates from the end of December until either March or April, and I am not sure how I feel about that.

My experience might help...Last year I was using a Motorola 5Plus with Pixel Experience Rom and loved it. My phone was fast, stable and highly compatible to the "Pixel Experience". I had a hardware issue and decided I liked the PE so much, I went ahead and got a Pixel 3xl...I've never had such a seamless transition...was just faster with better hardware but almost no thought changing for different mechanisms of actions...
I'm hoping someone picks up PE and ports it to the 3XL and I'll use that....otherwise, any alternative suggestions for closest to "stock" Pixel would be appreciated...
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spschneer said:
I liked the PE so much, I went ahead and got a Pixel 3xl...I've never had such a seamless transition...was just faster with better hardware but almost no thought changing for different mechanisms of actions...
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Yeah I have seen PixelExperience and would really like to use it over LOS if the 3 XL gets support. As far as I know, the 2 XL did not receive support until it's EOL, so there's hope. Is the feature parity as spot-on as is claimed?

David B. said:
Yeah I have seen PixelExperience and would really like to use it over LOS if the 3 XL gets support. As far as I know, the 2 XL did not receive support until it's EOL, so there's hope. Is the feature parity as spot-on as is claimed?
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For the features and functions I use, it was almost totally seamless...it was less than a typical release level amount of change (e.g.: 10->11 was more than I experienced PE -> P-3xl)
YMMV however...based on what features/functions you use most heavily.
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spschneer said:
For the features and functions I use, it was almost totally seamless...it was less than a typical release level amount of change (e.g.: 10->11 was more than I experienced PE -> P-3xl)
YMMV however...based on what features/functions you use most heavily.
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Great! I guess it's time for me to start researching building my own image.

"David B said he's gonna research building PE for 3xl....
GREAT...be sure to use the AOSP version ... there are a couple of flavors of PE but IMHO the AOSP version is the closest to the stock 3xl ...
If you don't mind guiding me a little over the rough patches, I'd be willing to help test your creation once you're out of alpha<G>...(my 3xl is my daily driver)... specifically, I'm used to having TWRP available for the maintenance/management of the ROM and if I understand it properly, TWRP isn't used / available for the 3xl ROM's...
Thanks
S.

spschneer said:
"David B said he's gonna research building PE for 3xl....
GREAT...be sure to use the AOSP version ... there are a couple of flavors of PE but IMHO the AOSP version is the closest to the stock 3xl ...
If you don't mind guiding me a little over the rough patches, I'd be willing to help test your creation once you're out of alpha<G>...(my 3xl is my daily driver)... specifically, I'm used to having TWRP available for the maintenance/management of the ROM and if I understand it properly, TWRP isn't used / available for the 3xl ROM's...
Thanks
S.
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For now, I would like to hold off on it. I don't really see a point in putting effort in to building PE for the 3 XL when we're about two weeks away from the next major Android release, at which point, PE will need reworked by the dev team. If the 3 XL is not picked up by someone else in the modding community at release time, and I've seen some people that think it will be, then I will start researching it.

David B. said:
For now, I would like to hold off on it. I don't really see a point in putting effort in to building PE for the 3 XL when we're about two weeks away from the next major Android release, at which point, PE will need reworked by the dev team. If the 3 XL is not picked up by someone else in the modding community at release time, and I've seen some people that think it will be, then I will start researching it.
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Sounds like a plan...will keep an eye on development threads for it once it goes out of support.

Even though the last update will be in Dec I'll probably keep using the 3XL until the 7 comes out (or 6a maybe). I just had the battery replaced a couple months ago, and there is nothing wrong with the phone. I usually use devices until EOL hits, and then upgrade when the next OS/phone comes out, so whatever device I'm using at any given time is on the current OS release (IE: 3XL on Android 12 until Android 13 drops, and then upgrade phone to get Android 13).

I would like to use that method, but I think it's too expensive, so I try to settle for "my phone's basically dead."

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I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.
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Does the unlimited Google Photos upload work on LineageOS?

quera said:
Does the unlimited Google Photos upload work on LineageOS?
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I don't know how to tell if it is still in effect. I see photos counted against my storage allotment, but don't know if that is just for my previous phones, or if it includes the Pixel photos.
My guess is you would have to use the Google Camera and Photo apps to keep unlimited upload, if it can be kept with LineageOS.