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Why is this phone so slow to receive updates?

I recently got the a520f after a few years with the iPhone. I was happy enough but then released there is 2 roms, 1 in alpha and another which is abandoned then noticed the updates from Samsung are sparse at best.
I'm unlocked in UK and stuck on 6.0.1, they "used" to say unlocked got updates first, noticed the way I said "used to" because carriers seem to be releasing 7.0 before unlocked, and while on the point 7.0 at this stage when Oreo will soon be released, even bringing the phone out with 7.0 would have been slow when 7.1 was available.
I am thinking I have made the wrong decision with the a520, Samsung are slow with updates anyway yes but the a520 seems to be at the bottom of Samsungs list of priorities. Last years a510 even has 7 for a while now.

hi !
Yes ,all people here want updates with another android version but i think that the most important thing is to enjoy with this phone :
it's a device with MM6 have enought power for to play game , it have the best super amoled screen ,it have a fabulous battery life ! , a fingerprints and "near" 20 differents sensors ,he have a good modem and hardware for 4G , this MM + sansung adds have all useful functions and parameters ....and the middle economic mode is impressive for the battery life...

The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.

Nah, Samsung kinda sucks. I mean they couldnt make a proper working fingerprint sensor on stock MM, had to install nougat for the bloody thing to work.

aoyanagi said:
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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How does Apple cope then?

That's Samsung decision to release update or not, as user we can wait for it or complaints to Samsung
Sent from my SM-A520F using Tapatalk

It has nothing to do with "the server not able to cope" or anything. There are a few reasons building up to the devices being in literally the bottom of the pile as you put it:
1) Samsung has heavily skinned Android with a lot of added features, which all take a while to port to a new verison.
2) Costs of development, Q/A testing and everything else that needs to be done before the update gets released public (not doing the update obviously means a lot of saved money)
3) Most people don't care about updates or are even annoyed by them and think they are something evil. That's excluding heavy updates to a new version which slow down the phone by a large margin with features you could have lived without (Apple are doing this), those updates really are evil. Due to the lack of updates though, this rarely happens on Android in all fairness.
4) It's a mid range price device
5) Samsung's policy of not wanting to update the phones too much anyway so the user buys a new one
The phone is probably going to be updated to 7.0 within the next month or two. I doubt extremely it will get updated to 8.0.
This is unacceptable for a phone that has come out for 2017, to not got an update of an OS to a version that is released in 2017 just a little over an year later. We should definetly not put up with it and complain to Samsung however, not on XDA.
We should make sure OEM's take note that we want our phones updated to new Android versions fast for at least a few years, just like iOS devices. And on top of complaining, we should vote with our wallets also. That gets the chain moving.

aoyanagi said:
The phone is receiving updates slowly cause the phone has owners all around the world, it's probably to make sure that OTA servers are not overloaded. Imagine what would happen if they released it at the same time for the whole world, the servers couldn't deliver acceptable speeds. That's just my guess though.
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That is tackled in another way. Your phone randomly receive updates in batch.
Yes you can get an update if you manually go into settings and download updates.
But again it is automatically provided in random batches.
Samsung is late at updates because they have a large number of models.
Not like Iphone that only support 3 models of past I think.
Samsung also needs to provide stable updates which take a lot of testing.
Again it depends on your country and provider when the start rolling updates.
By the way A5 got certified for oreo.
https://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?keywords=A520f

It has Oreo in Russia now
https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/how-to/sm-a520f-oreo-russia-t3779287

Mi a2 lite where is Android 10 ?

The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update

Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.

robin_vilensky_ said:
The xiaomi mi a2 lite / mi a2 released in 2018 - and the AndroidOne phones will get Android update for tow years any know about Android 10? It's need to be released other Android one phones have the last Android one 10 update
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I would rather wait for them to test and fix bugs fully before releasing it. I don't want them to release it when it's not ready.. just wait

andraslate said:
Well... I don't think we gonna get it in December so maybe January. Meanwhile Huawei, Nokia, Samsung already started to roll out the Android 10 updates we have to wait. Seems like at xiaomi's miui is higher priority then Android one.
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True mate ! Xiaomi ****ed the Android One project. Im totally disapointed ([email protected]!).

will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....

glassop said:
will they fffing fix the wifi/bluetooth problem finally with the Q update? I wouldn't be holding my breadth.....
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Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)

stmr said:
Some people claim it's fixed in December update (hoping it also indicates that they are cleaning things up and fixing driver issues for Q update)
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possibly it's a bit better but it's definitely not fixed.
wifi & bluetooth on - wifi speed is 1/3 of the speed with only wifi on

According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...

slimshady76 said:
According to another nameless Xiaomi representative, we should be getting Android 10 together with the January update:
https://c.mi.com/thread-2725788-1-0.html
I wouldn't hold my breath to it though...
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Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:

marstonpear said:
Employees in Xiaomi support suck a**. They don't know the slightest thing they're talking about. Last time I asked them when we were gonna get the Android 10 update they told me "very soon", "we're working on it" etc. All evasive responses. Some other dude asked Xiaomi support and they told him we'd get it two weeks after he asked which was about 1,5 months ago. So, don't trust Xiaomi support, they don't know what they're saying/doing. But I believe in January we'll get the update, a really crappy one. Just like how it was with Android Pie, full of bugs and missing features. LOL :laugh:
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Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.

RFD80M-75679 said:
Or you know, support robots, canned messages that promises Android 10 etc., yet nothing happened, just to ignore lots of peoples' queries, but instead, meaningless blurbs by Xiaomeme. No surprises here.
Anyway, custom ROM scenes did better job at this than Xiaomeme. Glad I don't go wait with their 'bUg FiXeS aNd ImPrOvEmEnTs' updates.
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I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha. I wish Xiaomi cared more for their Android One devices, but it seems they only wanted hop on another trend real quick and they are technically not giving a sh*t at all. When I first bought this phone, I expected all Android One devices to run the same OS, but somehow Nokia Android One devices get better, faster and more polished updates. I wish I had gotten the Nokia 7.1 when I had the chance. Shame.

marstonpear said:
I agree that the Custom ROMs are very stable right now, but I can't trust them. That's the reason I'm still using stock ROM with locked BL in 2019 haha.
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Wise! Beware of open source.

[REVIEW] Redmi Note 8 Pro from a developer

I've posted this review on the c.mi forums, There isn't anywhere in the review section that I can find to post a full review so I'm posting it in discussion, mods feel free to move it if there is a better category.
But, I felt someone in the same situation as me that bought this phone to get [back] into android development might find this useful.
Hello all, After having a Redmi Note 8 Pro and using it as my daily driver for a little over a month, I've decided it's time for me to write a review.
First, I'll give you all a little background on me, I'm a developer of everything from webpages to hardware, and tech enthusiast of all kinds. I'm from the US(NA market) so my knowledge of the Indian and Chinese markets are a bit limited although I do know pretty much how the EU market works as they're normally marketed to the almost the same way as the NA market, at least when it comes to tech. I started developing for Android with my Google G1 way back in 2008 and have been on an off developing for different android phones since then on a variety of forums. From the now gone SDX-Developers to XDA and Android Forums.(Through many different accounts as everywhere but SDX seems to end with me getting in an argument and deleting my account.) This is my first Xiaomi phone. I will be giving a review both as a user and a developer.
Marketing:
In the NA market this phone is marketed as a budget flagship, or "flagship killer" if you will. Pushed mostly towards tech enthusiasts and developers.
Their marketing technique is very similar to that of OnePlus, however without the strong reputation behind it that OnePlus has. If Xiaomi wants to continue using this marketing technique here they have a lot of make up for, and a lot of work to do for reasons that will become apparent later in this review.
User Review:
As a user I'm moderately happy with my purchase, the phone itself feels quality and is beautiful(I have the pearl white one). The price was decent, costing me $225 USD for the 64GB/6GB version. The processor is quick and the UI is gorgeous and snappy. The screen has really nice Darks and the HDR implementation is really good looking....When it works(Fixed in the new A10/M11 release). However, the software is really buggy with MIUI optimizations turned on, which is a shame because they make quite a difference to the snappiness and feel of the device. Apps sometimes don't work properly, refuse to show in portrait mode, or just won't use the keyboard(such as the newegg app which I use to order hardware quite often). There are a significant lack of updates, having just now as of today(28th May 2020) recieved my first OTA(Which is useless to me, more on that later). This has been a problem that the community seems quite aware and little angry about for good reason, seeing as how my device is still on the Dec 2019 security patch, with multiple high-threat CVEs being released since then. The IR blaster is nice, but the Mi Remote app needs a lot of work. I remember it being much, much better when it was "Peel Smart Remote" and using it on my Samsung Galaxy S5. The gallery app misses most downloaded pictures, and is quite the pain to get working. This is a shame as it's the only way to change the lock screen background, other than the theme app. -1 point for broken DRM and bugs -2 points for lack of updates.
Oh I forgot there are Ads throughout the system. This is UNACCEPTABLE in the NA and EU markets, to date this is the only phone I HAVE EVER SEEN put ads in the system framwork. I have owned at least 150 different android phones. This is becoming more and more forced by tech companies throughout different devices, specifically Chinese oriented ones and will not fly for long in Western Markets(especially the EU which already limits advertising). We paid for our hardware, you've got your money, now it's just being greedy, intrusive, and posing a risk to device security. (e.g The "security" app that puts ads in your package installer) It's easy enough to disable, but not everyone is going to know how, or want to do that. -2 points just for the ads, and honestly should be more taken off, the quality of the hardware is what's stopping me from dropping it -4 points.
Overall User Rating: 5/10
Developer Review:
Let me start off by saying, once again, that in the NA market this phone is marketed as an Unlocked device for enthusiasts, or a budget flagship(Which personally I have seen very little of this advertising for) It's on the front page of the XDA forums. Rooting and development is an important part of the Android Community, in what I've seen ALL MARKETS globally. We will begin at the rooting process. Unlocking the bootloader comes with a wait time. This is due to unauthorized retailers flashing chinese and indian varients to global and selling them, filled with [more] ads. So the fact that there is a 168 hour wait time to unlock the bootloader is completely understandable and I will take away no points for that. They're protecting their reputation in the least intrusive way they could, you know what? I'll even give them an extra point for the way they handled that part, +1. Now let's go to install TWRP, where right on the website is says "WARNING: This device hard bricks really easily for unknown reasons. Restoring device without spending real money is impossible as of now. " -2 points. This should have been my first warning to buy a different device. A somewhat large, reputable, and rooting advocate development team is warning users not to use their product, that's a red flag, and should never be something you have associated with your device or company as a whole. TWRP has backlight bug which can be fixed with an adb command, and really isn't a big deal seeing as how TWRP probably went through multiple devices getting their recovery out. Then flash Magisk. That's it you're rooted. I have to give them a hand, rooting really isn't a big deal. But let's pretend we're a new user and accidentally flashed TWRP to the boot partition, well you're SOL now, you have a $225 brick. There is no coming back from this unless 1, You have an authorized MI account, which you almost certainly do not. or 2, you pay some sketchy person halfway across the world to RDP into your computer and use their authorized account to unbrick you, as well as the 80% chance they're going to drop a keylogger, ransomware or they're going to syskey your computer and now you're still SOL, but you might have your phone unbricked, not very useful without a computer and an empty bank account though. They handled the way unbricking works terribly, and without cause. -8 points To add salt on the wound they release the source code like they're doing the development community a favor when it's 100% useless without a reliable unbricking method. -2 points for putting on a show. Which is sad, because otherwise the phone would be a pleasure to develop for. For example, you're in a bootloop something in /system got messed up. You can just flash the system.img from twrp and recover without any data loss or bloatware reappearing. That's amazing! the phone is partitioned very well, and has lots of xml, props and stuff to tweak from the start. Also, a really cute fastboot screen as a plus. Unfortunately, Xiaomi.eu has dropped all support for this device, as well as any other MTK based phones.
Thankfully, some totally awesome person at Xiaomi "leaked" an engineering preloader which can help prevent bricks as long as it's not overwritten and you stay on android 9. But, the downside is, No Android 10, No MIUI 12, No anything other than MIUI 11 Pie. If they would release more lks along side the updates for developers this would be insanely helpful, and breath some life back into the RN8P/8/T development community.
Still, as a developer, and a normal person, I'm afraid to do too much to this device, or develop kernels, recoveries or ROMS because i'm terrified I'm going to be out $225 and my daily driver phone, that I can't afford to replace if something bad happens.
Development Score: 0/11
Guy who leaked preloader score: 10000/10
tl;dr If you're not into rooting or development this is a pretty decent phone with quality flagship hardware, if you can live with ads in your system, and the bug in some apps. There are ways to remove most of the ads without root, and it does still get updates, although rare. It's worth $180-$200 USD if you find it for a good deal. Although you could just get a used OnePlus 7 Pro for around the same price maybe $50-$100 USD more(depending on market) and be much happier all around.

Nice review, such detail

I wish i had read this before, i've bricked my phone trying to flash new ROM after i spent hours getting to a lower firmware and then getting TWRP to work, finally flashed android 11 rom to get a brick
0/10 rating by more than average user who was sick of MIUI

ezequielfilipesantos2000 said:
I wish i had read this before, i've bricked my phone trying to flash new ROM after i spent hours getting to a lower firmware and then getting TWRP to work, finally flashed android 11 rom to get a brick
0/10 rating by more than average user who was sick of MIUI
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Well, What a cocindence, I just gave someone a solution to install TWRP and root their stock ROM. Not a custom one though.

Kenora_I said:
Well, What a cocindence, I just gave someone a solution to install TWRP and root their stock ROM. Not a custom one though.
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Sure is, was that user using the latest miui version (android 10, miui. 12.0.5 i believe?)
I was also having problems flashing the TWRP ( latest one) recovery
I flashed but i didn't have sucess, it went into Redmi-Recovery 3.0
I had to get a old fastboot version of android 9.0 with muiu, flash it using miflashpro tools then, i had to flash the preloader ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-info-psa-redmi-note-8-pro-megathread-cfw.4056527/ )
Then i was able to flash the TWRP recovery and it worked
After that I tried flashing (after a wipe obviously, not going to flash dirty) Pixel Experience (AOSP) rom and it resulted in a bricked phone
10/10 I highly recommend the drama

Yeah the latest one.

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Yeah the latest one.
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How did you manage?
Was i doing something the wrong way? ( or all of it? ) ahahaha

For those of you using the stock ROM, what are your plans for migrating once we reach EOL?

As I'm sure we all know here, our beloved Pixel 3 XLs are officially getting dropped by Google in about three weeks. If history repeats itself, though, we will get the Android 12 release in October followed by one last OTA in December. My typical usage pattern with a phone is:
Get the phone and use the stock ROM until the phone reaches EOL.
Once EOL is reached, move to LineageOS.
I know that this is a pattern that some others more or less follow as well, but I was wondering about what variations there are to the pattern. Does anyone here use another ROM? As much as I like LineageOS, I would be more interested in using a ROM that is basically identical to stock Android. I have read about compiling AOSP from source so as to maintain my own ROM that does just that, but from what I understand, that does not work very well for unsupported devices. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Off the top of the head... EOL only means no more official updates or support, ie security fix's...
Your fone working on a custom rom will still work, since you'd think it was the custom rom updated...
If they do stop the fone calling, there's plenty other apks for 'near field' communication
Free wifi calling hint hint..

Pachacouti said:
Off the top of the head... EOL only means no more official updates or support, ie security fix's...
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Oh yes, I know that functionality-wise the phone will continue working as before. What I want to know is, what are people considering in regards to custom ROMs?

David B. said:
Oh yes, I know that functionality-wise the phone will continue working as before. What I want to know is, what are people considering in regards to custom ROMs?
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Kl, well, me, I'm wondering this too just now, because I'm stuck with a system-as-root fone thats a pain, and now there's too many different too choose from, and if they're of the best quality, they now have to cover at least 4 different styles of booting alone, I'd watch those for the ones updating quickest

Pachacouti said:
Kl, well, me, I'm wondering this too just now, because I'm stuck with a system-as-root fone thats a pain, and now there's too many different too choose from, and if they're of the best quality, they now have to cover at least 4 different styles of booting alone, I'd watch those for the ones updating quickest
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Well, LineageOS certainly does that, but at the same time, it also takes them about 6 months to move to a new major release of Android. I was hoping that someone would know of a release that does it just as well, but is a little more flexible with migrating. I haven't found any myself.

I've yet to convince myself which version is for my fone lol

David B. said:
As I'm sure we all know here, our beloved Pixel 3 XLs are officially getting dropped by Google in about three weeks. If history repeats itself, though, we will get the Android 12 release in October followed by one last OTA in December. My typical usage pattern with a phone is:
Get the phone and use the stock ROM until the phone reaches EOL.
Once EOL is reached, move to LineageOS.
I know that this is a pattern that some others more or less follow as well, but I was wondering about what variations there are to the pattern. Does anyone here use another ROM? As much as I like LineageOS, I would be more interested in using a ROM that is basically identical to stock Android. I have read about compiling AOSP from source so as to maintain my own ROM that does just that, but from what I understand, that does not work very well for unsupported devices. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.

Not at all, they all sound excellent, however, my fone cant write to the actuall system, can mount, but no joy yet doing anything else, and no overlay works so far, the only custom os I could install was a chrooted nethunter, which was pretty lame and useless being my system as root is a pain... so I'm looking..

dcarvil said:
I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.
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My plan, at least for now, is to ride on stock until the last update is pushed, and then once LOS gets updated to 12, I will migrate. The only problem with this, though, is that it would leave me without security updates from the end of December until either March or April, and I am not sure how I feel about that.

My experience might help...Last year I was using a Motorola 5Plus with Pixel Experience Rom and loved it. My phone was fast, stable and highly compatible to the "Pixel Experience". I had a hardware issue and decided I liked the PE so much, I went ahead and got a Pixel 3xl...I've never had such a seamless transition...was just faster with better hardware but almost no thought changing for different mechanisms of actions...
I'm hoping someone picks up PE and ports it to the 3XL and I'll use that....otherwise, any alternative suggestions for closest to "stock" Pixel would be appreciated...
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I liked the PE so much, I went ahead and got a Pixel 3xl...I've never had such a seamless transition...was just faster with better hardware but almost no thought changing for different mechanisms of actions...
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Yeah I have seen PixelExperience and would really like to use it over LOS if the 3 XL gets support. As far as I know, the 2 XL did not receive support until it's EOL, so there's hope. Is the feature parity as spot-on as is claimed?

David B. said:
Yeah I have seen PixelExperience and would really like to use it over LOS if the 3 XL gets support. As far as I know, the 2 XL did not receive support until it's EOL, so there's hope. Is the feature parity as spot-on as is claimed?
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For the features and functions I use, it was almost totally seamless...it was less than a typical release level amount of change (e.g.: 10->11 was more than I experienced PE -> P-3xl)
YMMV however...based on what features/functions you use most heavily.
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For the features and functions I use, it was almost totally seamless...it was less than a typical release level amount of change (e.g.: 10->11 was more than I experienced PE -> P-3xl)
YMMV however...based on what features/functions you use most heavily.
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Great! I guess it's time for me to start researching building my own image.

"David B said he's gonna research building PE for 3xl....
GREAT...be sure to use the AOSP version ... there are a couple of flavors of PE but IMHO the AOSP version is the closest to the stock 3xl ...
If you don't mind guiding me a little over the rough patches, I'd be willing to help test your creation once you're out of alpha<G>...(my 3xl is my daily driver)... specifically, I'm used to having TWRP available for the maintenance/management of the ROM and if I understand it properly, TWRP isn't used / available for the 3xl ROM's...
Thanks
S.

spschneer said:
"David B said he's gonna research building PE for 3xl....
GREAT...be sure to use the AOSP version ... there are a couple of flavors of PE but IMHO the AOSP version is the closest to the stock 3xl ...
If you don't mind guiding me a little over the rough patches, I'd be willing to help test your creation once you're out of alpha<G>...(my 3xl is my daily driver)... specifically, I'm used to having TWRP available for the maintenance/management of the ROM and if I understand it properly, TWRP isn't used / available for the 3xl ROM's...
Thanks
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For now, I would like to hold off on it. I don't really see a point in putting effort in to building PE for the 3 XL when we're about two weeks away from the next major Android release, at which point, PE will need reworked by the dev team. If the 3 XL is not picked up by someone else in the modding community at release time, and I've seen some people that think it will be, then I will start researching it.

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For now, I would like to hold off on it. I don't really see a point in putting effort in to building PE for the 3 XL when we're about two weeks away from the next major Android release, at which point, PE will need reworked by the dev team. If the 3 XL is not picked up by someone else in the modding community at release time, and I've seen some people that think it will be, then I will start researching it.
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Sounds like a plan...will keep an eye on development threads for it once it goes out of support.

Even though the last update will be in Dec I'll probably keep using the 3XL until the 7 comes out (or 6a maybe). I just had the battery replaced a couple months ago, and there is nothing wrong with the phone. I usually use devices until EOL hits, and then upgrade when the next OS/phone comes out, so whatever device I'm using at any given time is on the current OS release (IE: 3XL on Android 12 until Android 13 drops, and then upgrade phone to get Android 13).

I would like to use that method, but I think it's too expensive, so I try to settle for "my phone's basically dead."

dcarvil said:
I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.
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Does the unlimited Google Photos upload work on LineageOS?

quera said:
Does the unlimited Google Photos upload work on LineageOS?
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I don't know how to tell if it is still in effect. I see photos counted against my storage allotment, but don't know if that is just for my previous phones, or if it includes the Pixel photos.
My guess is you would have to use the Google Camera and Photo apps to keep unlimited upload, if it can be kept with LineageOS.

General OnePlus says OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January

FYI, OnePlus 10 information:...
Earlier than expected: OnePlus says OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January
OnePlus has revealed that the OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January, making for a much earlier reveal than previous generations.
www.androidauthority.com
This is the OnePlus 10 Pro, as officially revealed by OnePlus
After months of leaks and speculation, we finally have our first official look at the OnePlus 10 Pro, courtesy of the company itself.
www.androidauthority.com
Confirmed OnePlus 10 Pro specs are here: Check out that charging boost
We now have a list of confirmed OnePlus 10 Pro specs. The list isn't complete, but there's some really interesting stuff in here so far.
www.androidauthority.com

I'm not going to purchase another OnePlus phone. If I wanted ColorOS I'd buy an OPPO. OxygenOS is dead and any claims that the OS lives with the merge of company resources and engineers is just a marketing exercise as it's just Color with an Oxygen theme. Never mind, going to sell my 9 Pro and look at a Pixel I think.

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I'm not going to purchase another OnePlus phone. If I wanted ColorOS I'd buy an OPPO. OxygenOS is dead and any claims that the OS lives with the merge of company resources and engineers is just a marketing exercise as it's just Color with an Oxygen theme. Never mind, going to sell my 9 Pro and look at a Pixel I think.
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yeah I've been a oneplus user for so many years, I swear one of the best devices I've ever had was my 6T, however, this coloros bs and the clear digression from the principle's that brought so many users to oneplus seemed to have taken a backseat to marketing, greed, and nonsense. for so long I was waiting for oneplus to get their camera hardware right so they could compete with the big names, but while that finally happened, they also simply said, 'f*ck the fanbase and long time users, let's merge with oppo and trash oos'. in short, yeah this 9 pro is my last oneplus, in fact, I won't even be updating to oos (coloros) 12, going to stay on 11.2.10.10 until I eventually get a pixel 6/7pro (I still have a bunch of payments to go on this 9pro), in truth, it's sad, really, that things turned out this way.

Agree man, bye oneplus, it was good knowing u for 3,3t, 5, 6,6t, 7pro and 9 pro.
I don't even have the urge to upgrade my 9 pro to stable 12

bye bye oneplus, and good morning g pixel.
Whats all i can say about all upcoming oneplus releases

It's a shame because we all loved the original ethos of OnePlus; the best unlocked hardware at a cheap price and with a near zero bloat OS. Now that we have multiple mid-tier phones, TV and wearable devices, I'm struggling to understand what OnePlus stands for or even why the brand even exists.

Shame, but same as people there, I will not buy another OnePlus phone.
They were good, because 1) had good stock ROM, close to clean Android without tons of bloatware 2) were cheap also
Nowadays they lost both of this qualities.

This is all very sad. I waited so much 10..pro. And now, reading yours messages, I understand that there is no hope. I started using model 6 and now they are taking away what has been with us for so long. Tell me, is it really supposed to be a Google pixel?I understand that I can buy which one I want, but if I look for an alternative to the departed one plus?

Oneplus really disappointed me this time: 5g has never worked, VoLTE doesn't work, the camera and its software are not up to par with other smartphones of similar price, the latest updates have been a disaster.
After buying my 9 PRO (LE2123) I was so disappointed that I thought countless times "why didn't I buy a Find X3 Pro?"
I'm even thinking about going back to Samsung.
I'm sorry to say this, but oneplus has deeply and perhaps hopelessly disappointed me this time.

Oh, guys. If you only knew what's going on with other devices...
I have had Xiaomi devices for years, last one was Poco F3. The software was disaster. Miui is a disaster.
Now I'm really happy owner of OP9Pro. Everything works. Fast.
People, who want GPixel - please think twice and do homework, there is a lot bugs there too.

I don't like Oxygen Os, now, because is f*cked up by Google...
I like Pixel 6 pro design, but with google Os, it's a NO go !
I like Motorola Edge 20. But horror news (the software will be made with google) ! NO !!!
I might buy OnePlus 10 Pro at the end of spring/start of summer from from sales forums., when the price is going down.

I agree with the general sentiment. Lots of devices coming out in 2020/21 had software/hardware problems. I purchased this phone thinking i'm getting a flagship phone with top notch hardware and dedicated software updates but ended up with just another regular phone like the old galaxy i had. So i'm not hoping anything from any future device that may be coming in the next couple of years.

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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.

It seems that management are having their say and not accepting what their workers and teams have to say. Whilst the current situation is not ideal we're all living in uncertain times, one thing that history teaches us, is that things can change. I'm not saying that we'll see immediate changes, more that progress is slow and gradual.

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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
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No, you should not accept reduction of quality.
My point is that it is so easy to say " F... OP, I'm switching to ....." .
There are problems with others too. So wait is mandatory.
Wait with switching.
Wait with upgrading.

What about Hasselblad? Will they still be using Hasselblad Cameras?

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....wait is mandatory.
Wait with switching.
Wait with upgrading.
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I've resigned myself to selling it as I've had enough. The phone will go on a auction site in a few days and I'll order a Pixel 6.

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I've resigned myself to selling it as I've had enough. The phone will go on a auction site in a few days and I'll order a Pixel 6.
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The lack of dual sim is what's holding me back from going to the pixel

Had the OP1, OP2, OP7 Pro and currently using the 9 Pro. I tried the latest OOS for a few days and it is bad.
Unless they do some major changes, there is no way Im getting another Oneplus phone.

mckeowngoo said:
So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
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yep, remember when OnePlus cost half as much as other flagships with excellent software? I reluctantly gave up my 7 pro for my 9 pro, and I really think the 7 Pro was peak OnePlus