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Is that phone still worth buying? Q3 2018

Hello there. Is it worth to buy this phone now? How long may it be supported by community devs? Are there any alternatives for ~250$ (in regards of battery and hardware)? I am looking for a smartphone with battery larger than 3000mAh or with AMOLED screen (or both of these options). It would be nice bonus if it was smaller than 15cm in height.

DoctorRzepa said:
Hello there. Is it worth to buy this phone now? How long may it be supported by community devs? Are there any alternatives for ~250$ (in regards of battery and hardware)? I am looking for a smartphone with battery larger than 3000mAh or with AMOLED screen (or both of these options). It would be nice bonus if it was smaller than 15cm in height.
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This phone is a beast still today because of active development by the developers. If you want a pbone with both amoled and battery above 3000 mah in 250$ range than the only option is Samsung J8. So my suggestion to you is go for the xiaomi redmi note 5 Pro or wait for the MiA2.

Actually, in my country Lenovo P2 is avaible for ~200$. Is it a good deal?

DoctorRzepa said:
Actually, in my country Lenovo P2 is avaible for ~200$. Is it a good deal?
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i won't say it is a good deal in this price ..but will be a great deal if you get it under $150 . you can get a better device in 250 nowadays with a little less of a battery strength but it will be fine for a days use .

best phone for its specs in its price range imo,also a lot of software developments going on for it also makes it a fine choice...yes its still worths it.

I would definitely buy it again. My only concern would be the state of the battery since these phones have being on shelves for quite a while now. I don't know if that would affect battery life and I would like to know it, though (If anyone does).

Great deal !

quantic.chaos said:
I would definitely buy it again. My only concern would be the state of the battery since these phones have being on shelves for quite a while now. I don't know if that would affect battery life and I would like to know it, though (If anyone does).
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LiPo-batteries don't age (lose capacity) that much over time.

Chillmann said:
LiPo-batteries don't age (lose capacity) that much over time.
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Thanks for the reply. I also made some research and it's true that two years is not a lot for a well stored Li-Ion battery.

quantic.chaos said:
Thanks for the reply. I also made some research and it's true that two years is not a lot for a well stored Li-Ion battery.
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does someone know where we can still buy a Lenovo P2 (P2A42 version) ? mine felt in water and seems to be dead...

genesian2k15 said:
does someone know where we can still buy a Lenovo P2 (P2A42 version) ? mine felt in water and seems to be dead...
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In my country (Poland) it is still available in many internet shops (dual sim version).

genesian2k15 said:
does someone know where we can still buy a Lenovo P2 (P2A42 version) ? mine felt in water and seems to be dead...
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I've seen them in Chinese stores like aliexpress dot com.

i think i found one but 349€ and not sure it is p2a42 and not p2c72

DoctorRzepa said:
In my country (Poland) it is still available in many internet shops (dual sim version).
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I confirm. This phone factory new can be bought in Poland from 220$ up.
And I my opinion it is still great battery, hassle free phone.
From some time I am looking for something new for exchange but..... I am still happy to live without power socket for few days. No new phone comes even close to P2 battery endurance ( I do not count monsters like Ulefone Power with ridiculous MTK processors )

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I've seen them in Chinese stores like aliexpress dot com.
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yes but it is not the real p2a42 it is a p2c72 with rom of p2a42 and the problem is about frequency bands for fdd lte (4g) wich are not the same...
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I've seen them in Chinese stores like aliexpress dot com.
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pabgar said:
I confirm. This phone factory new can be bought in Poland from 220$ up.
And I my opinion it is still great battery, hassle free phone.
From some time I am looking for something new for exchange but..... I am still happy to live without power socket for few days. No new phone comes even close to P2 battery endurance ( I do not count monsters like Ulefone Power with ridiculous MTK processors )
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in wich store? is it possible to order online? are you sure it's p2a42 version?

genesian2k15 said:
yes but it is not the real p2a42 it is a p2c72 with rom of p2a42 and the problem is about frequency bands for fdd lte (4g) wich are not the same...
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in wich store? is it possible to order online? are you sure it's p2a42 version?
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It is 3/32 dual sim on snapdragon. Where are you from?

DoctorRzepa said:
It is 3/32 dual sim on snapdragon. Where are you from?
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yes mine was 3/32 imported from italy cause there was none here (France)

genesian2k15 said:
yes mine was 3/32 imported from italy cause there was none here (France)
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I wish I could help you but probably none of local internet shops makes it abroad.
First, we have a site ceneo.pl which seeks for best offers for given product. You can use that to look at polish shops. Important note: Allegro is an auction site and some offers there may be a scam.
But you may try to contact other site's service and ask if transaction from France is possible. Google translate should be enough to find contact info on these.

DoctorRzepa said:
I wish I could help you but probably none of local internet shops makes it abroad.
First, we have a site ceneo.pl which seeks for best offers for given product. You can use that to look at polish shops. Important note: Allegro is an auction site and some offers there may be a scam.
But you may try to contact other site's service and ask if transaction from France is possible. Google translate should be enough to find contact info on these.
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what do you think about this one? :
https://acom.pl/p/468/52013/smartfo...ry-smartfony-telefony-telefony-i-tablety.html
for the payment the seller talk abotu sending proforma...

genesian2k15 said:
what do you think about this one? :
https://acom.pl/p/468/52013/smartfo...ry-smartfony-telefony-telefony-i-tablety.html
for the payment the seller talk abotu sending proforma...
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It's hard to say. This is 4GB version, but no info about 800Mhz LTE band. Did you got mail from seller?

need help choosing please

I currently have the mate 20 pro and it has the green screen issue. So... Sadly I'm sending it back, I was going to swap it for another though amazon advised me not to. They also refunded the accessories I purchased which supprised me. I now don't know whether to try to import a mate 20 X or settle for the 6t. I would be grateful if anyone with the 20x could help me decide and answer a few questions?
I haven't seen any threads about it. But has anyone had any issues with the screen?
I've read some people have had problems with the Chinese version, when looking at adverts how do I make sure the phone I'm buying is the international version? Most don't say they just give the model number.
Is there an 8gb/256 version of the international model? Does enyone have an ebay link for where I could get it sent to the UK?
Does anyone have any reasons why I shouldn't consider getting this phone?
Thanks for your help.

I don't have the phone (at least yet) but i'm following closely all threads because i'm very interested too and i never see anyone complaining about the gluegate, even a reviewer frankytech thinks its only targeting pro series because of the curved screen.
If you want to buy international version you need to check if the model is named EVR-L29, china model is AL00. There's no international model atm in 256/8GB variant. About sellers to the international, there's splendor, wonda, funkyhuawei, expansys and ebay. Probably more but i forgot.

ooMoo said:
I currently have the mate 20 pro and it has the green screen issue. So... Sadly I'm sending it back, I was going to swap it for another though amazon advised me not to. They also refunded the accessories I purchased which supprised me. I now don't know whether to try to import a mate 20 X or settle for the 6t. I would be grateful if anyone with the 20x could help me decide and answer a few questions?
I haven't seen any threads about it. But has anyone had any issues with the screen?
I've read some people have had problems with the Chinese version, when looking at adverts how do I make sure the phone I'm buying is the international version? Most don't say they just give the model number.
Is there an 8gb/256 version of the international model? Does enyone have an ebay link for where I could get it sent to the UK?
Does anyone have any reasons why I shouldn't consider getting this phone?
Thanks for your help.
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Wondamobile is the best.. I've got Chinese i live in UK no problem i made right decision about the phone

stestesteste said:
Wondamobile is the best.. I've got Chinese i live in UK no problem i made right decision about the phone
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Would you recommend the Chinese model?
Is it easy to add the play store? Are there any issues with Google services? e.g. Google pay? As I use that a lot.
I bought an xaomi tablet and that took a lot of effort to get Google app store and services working properly.
Also I was wondering does face unlock work OK on this phone? I know it doesn't have the 3d scanner.

i orderd the chinese model - i hope it turns out to be good

ooMoo said:
i orderd the chinese model - i hope it turns out to be good
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It's good ?

stestesteste said:
It's good ?
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Does it have wireless charging?

ooMoo said:
Does it have wireless charging?
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Not that good ?

stestesteste said:
Not that good ?
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I think I just read that Google pay doesn't work either I wonder if I'm too late to cancel my order
Does it work for you?

ooMoo said:
I think I just read that Google pay doesn't work either I wonder if I'm too late to cancel my order
Does it work for you?
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I use Barclays contactless

SmartPhonesFan said:
does it work in uk on china version ?
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just get replacement .. I heard that some batch ha sbad screens green tint
https://www.channelnews.com.au/optus-huawei-acknowledge-mate-20-pro-green-screen-issue/
https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/arti...owledge-resolve-mate-20-pro-green-tint-issue/
https://androidcommunity.com/huawei...ve-mate-20-pro-green-screen-problem-20181119/
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I originally purchased from amazon UK they said they were not offering replacements of the mate 20 pro now and a refund was my only option.

SmartPhonesFan said:
And u kept item ?
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No I have to return my 20 pro

ooMoo said:
I currently have the mate 20 pro and it has the green screen issue. So... Sadly I'm sending it back, I was going to swap it for another though amazon advised me not to. They also refunded the accessories I purchased which supprised me. I now don't know whether to try to import a mate 20 X or settle for the 6t. I would be grateful if anyone with the 20x could help me decide and answer a few questions?
I haven't seen any threads about it. But has anyone had any issues with the screen?
I've read some people have had problems with the Chinese version, when looking at adverts how do I make sure the phone I'm buying is the international version? Most don't say they just give the model number.
Is there an 8gb/256 version of the international model? Does enyone have an ebay link for where I could get it sent to the UK?
Does anyone have any reasons why I shouldn't consider getting this phone?
Thanks for your help.
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I came from a OnePlus 6. Definitely get the 20 X if you like large screen phones. The X uses a Samsung AMOLED panel and is free of defects. I would buy the Global version if root isn't important to you. If it is then buy the Chinese version. I bought the Global version and have no issues with it. The 6gb/128 Global version is plenty fast. You won't see any difference between the 6gb and 8gb versions as far as speed or apps in memory goes, it's all pretty much a gimmick unless you're buying the 256gb/8gb version just for the storage size.

ajsmsg78 said:
I came from a OnePlus 6. Definitely get the 20 X if you like large screen phones. The X uses a Samsung AMOLED panel and is free of defects. I would buy the Global version if root isn't important to you. If it is then buy the Chinese version. I bought the Global version and have no issues with it. The 6gb/128 Global version is plenty fast. You won't see any difference between the 6gb and 8gb versions as far as speed or apps in memory goes, it's all pretty much a gimmick unless you're buying the 256gb/8gb version just for the storage size.
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The storage was the main reason I ended up going for the Chinese version.
I'm worried about Google pay not working on Chinese phones but I'm hoping the rest will end up working OK.
Hopefully someone will work out how to rebrand it so I can have the best of both worlds.

ooMoo said:
The storage was the main reason I ended up going for the Chinese version.
I'm worried about Google pay not working on Chinese phones but I'm hoping the rest will end up working OK.
Hopefully someone will work out how to rebrand it so I can have the best of both worlds.
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How is it working for you? Google stuff working good?

DJW35 said:
How is it working for you? Google stuff working good?
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It has not arrived yet

ooMoo said:
It has not arrived yet
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Please let me know how it works out, the 20X is my next phone just trying to decide which one I want. The China version is like $200 cheaper than the International one or the same price for the 8 gig versus the 6gig international version.

DJW35 said:
Please let me know how it works out, the 20X is my next phone just trying to decide which one I want. The China version is like $200 cheaper than the International one or the same price for the 8 gig versus the 6gig international version.
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I have the China 8/256 version. And although I was worried about getting it once I changed the language, keyboard, got Google play to work it's a great phone.. my wife is laughing at me saying it's too big but personally I love it. It's fast and smooth and the screen is amazing.

I've not tried Google pay yet. I was able to add my credit card but not my bank card strangely. I will try Google pay tomorrow and let you know.

ooMoo said:
I have the China 8/256 version. And although I was worried about getting it once I changed the language, keyboard, got Google play to work it's a great phone.. my wife is laughing at me saying it's too big but personally I love it. It's fast and smooth and the screen is amazing.
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So it's pretty much the same experience as a American phone?

7T vs Realme x2 Pro

Just noticed that this device will be available in Europe and the UK in November and am struggling to think of any reason to go for the 7T over this,other than OxygenOS,
This thing seems to have everything,including 64mp camera,20x zoom,50 watt charging,90hz display,dual speakers,the list goes on ,and it's much cheaper than the 7T,
Also Realme is under Oppo just like OnePlus
https://www.realme.com/eu/realme-x2-pro

Bumping, in case anyone has an opinion on this or has handled both these phones.

No one knows, until it's available. There's a dude on the X2Pro forum who's got it and sharing feedback on the phone. I too was debating whether to wait, but because of the recent 11.11 sales snagged a 7T for cheap. Loving it so far.
If you can wait, why not?

moi123 said:
No one knows, until it's available. There's a dude on the X2Pro forum who's got it and sharing feedback on the phone. I too was debating whether to wait, but because of the recent 11.11 sales snagged a 7T for cheap. Loving it so far.
If you can wait, why not?
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What are you talking about ?
Both these phones are available

The different reviews I saw seem to say that the OP7T camera is a bit better.... But man, this 50W charging... And apparently lots of Realme phones get OOS custom ROMs... Imagine an X2 pro with OOS... I'm still waiting to receive my OP7T from China so the price is similar with an X2 Pro but if I had bought an OP7T at the official European price, I would send it back right away to get an X2 pro.
Just my 2 cents

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The different reviews I saw seem to say that the OP7T camera is a bit better.... But man, this 50W charging... And apparently lots of Realme phones get OOS custom ROMs... Imagine an X2 pro with OOS... I'm still waiting to receive my OP7T from China so the price is similar with an X2 Pro but if I had bought an OP7T at the official European price, I would send it back right away to get an X2 pro.
Just my 2 cents
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I would agree, €600 in Europe and you only get the 8/128 model.Get it in China you can get it much cheaper or even the 8/256 model for around €500.
For me personally I just don't like the idea of them opening the device and flashing OOS on the China version. I like my phone to be new,untouched, factory sealed,(though with Oneplus pricing I am thinking I might have to get over that)
The Realme though is excellent value for €500 for 12/256 though your taking a hit in the camera processing and the software experience overall

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What are you talking about ?
Both these phones are available
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The Realme's not available where I am, no local retailers.

manus31 said:
For me personally I just don't like the idea of them opening the device and flashing OOS on the China version. I like my phone to be new,untouched, factory sealed
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Them? Who? You can buy X2Pro with Oxygen OS?
As far as I've read, like others have said, Color OS and the camera are the downsides of X2Pro. But once the Dev community gets going, we can always flash a custom rom so one issue is sorted. I'm not so sure about the camera.
And 7T may get a price cut once X2 Pro is available everywhere, who knows.

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Them? Who? You can buy X2Pro with Oxygen OS?
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I was referring to the 7T, When you buy from China,AliExpress etc,the seller opens the sealed China version of the phone to flash the global Oxygen OS in place of Hydrogen OS

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I was referring to the 7T, When you buy from China,AliExpress etc,the seller opens the sealed China version of the phone to flash the global Oxygen OS in place of Hydrogen OS
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Oh didn't know that, thanks

manus31 said:
I was referring to the 7T, When you buy from China,AliExpress etc,the seller opens the sealed China version of the phone to flash the global Oxygen OS in place of Hydrogen OS
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once you get over that there's nothing to it...it's a phone

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once you get over that there's nothing to it...it's a phone
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True ,but this is where my OCD and paranoia kicks in,who's to know how long that phone was used,did it drop,was it scratched,what kind of defects did it pick up.
But besides that,the prices are great so small price perhaps if the phone arrives safe

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True ,but this is where my OCD and paranoia kicks in,who's to know how long that phone was used,did it drop,was it scratched,what kind of defects did it pick up.
But besides that,the prices are great so small price perhaps if the phone arrives safe
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yeah it's a bit different for me since I bought it from a local seller who imported the phone sealed from China, then before he unbox and install ROM I received real time image of it still sealed with imei. So pretty much the phone was new out of box and it was like a friend helped me install the ROM, no worries.
So maybe try to do that to help with the OCD

I believe some Chinese online resellers accept not to open the sealed box if you ask for it.

Someone convince me to go for the 7T.
Where I stay, the X2 Pro is about $75 cheaper. But it was weird niggles like fingerprint not working after you unlock the bootloader and obviously the dev community is lacking.
My main concern about 7T is the battery life, especially with 90Hz. Someone tell me this isn't an issue. I certainly value dev/AOSP roms, though currently there's not much going on here except a couple of kernels (good ones though). I suppose this device needs more time for the ROMs scene to gather pace, hopefully..

roofrider said:
Someone convince me to go for the 7T.
Where I stay, the X2 Pro is about $75 cheaper. But it was weird niggles like fingerprint not working after you unlock the bootloader and obviously the dev community is lacking.
My main concern about 7T is the battery life, especially with 90Hz. Someone tell me this isn't an issue. I certainly value dev/AOSP roms, though currently there's not much going on here except a couple of kernels (good ones though). I suppose this device needs more time for the ROMs scene to gather pace, hopefully..
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The main reason there is not that much custom ROMs for now is that there is not working TWRP yet. There is still one on XDA, Omnirom, which seems to be pretty functional. Honestly battery life is perfect on this phone, and warp charge 30T makes you stop thinking about it IMHO.

I read somewhere that unlocking the bootloader on X2 Pro disables the under display FP scanner. I think that's a big deal if you're into flashing and stuff.
Such a turnoff for an otherwise amazing phone.

I suspect once more phones start shipping with Android 10 (maybe from Jan), TWRP will be fixed.
Pretty sure I'm going to pull the trigger in a few hours.
Someone tell me green/etc tint on the display isn't an issue [emoji14][emoji849]
Edit: And buy, i did.

Question How can i get exynos model s22 in the us?

I would prefer to be able to buy it and have it shipped from a reliable source.

Be careful, a lot of scamming going on...

mr.herbert said:
I would prefer to be able to buy it and have it shipped from a reliable source.
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Why you want Exynos model?

Dayuser said:
Why you want Exynos model?
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For rooting and customization mainly.

blackhawk said:
Be careful, a lot of scamming going on...
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Any advice for reliable sources to buy from that arent prohibitively expensive?

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Any advice for reliable sources to buy from that arent prohibitively expensive?
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I checked the one I know of but only selling the Snapdragon variant.
He has N10+'s and maybe other models that are Exynos, not cheap but new, factory seal box.
If you can't talk to potential vendors on the phone or don't like what they say, avoid using them. Reputable ones have a phone and are accessible.
I was thinking about a used N20U but blew it off in part because of unreliable vendors. A new N10+ at $800 was a better deal for me. That fact that it's running on Android 10 sweeten the deal.

Question Mi pad 5 for £250 from mi store..worth it?

Been out for a while but still look very good on paper...worth £250.. thanks

russy23 said:
Been out for a while but still look very good on paper...worth £250.. thanks
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I'd say deffo worth it. Just looked on Mi store but couldn't see it for this price - £329 only. But yeah, if you can get one new for £250 it's for sure worth it. A while ago I paid £200 for a used one on ebay with a scratch on the screen, that was when they were selling for £300+ for a new one, so your £250 is great. Much, much faster and better built than the Alldocube iPlay 40 it replaced - even though this had more ram, the ram as a guess was slower. This Mi Pad is snappy. Let me/us know if you have any more questions

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I'd say deffo worth it. Just looked on Mi store but couldn't see it for this price - £329 only. But yeah, if you can get one new for £250 it's for sure worth it. A while ago I paid £200 for a used one on ebay with a scratch on the screen, that was when they were selling for £300+ for a new one, so your £250 is great. Much, much faster and better built than the Alldocube iPlay 40 it replaced - even though this had more ram, the ram as a guess was slower. This Mi Pad is snappy. Let me/us know if you have any more questions
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Thankyou..I have built up a few points so yea can get for £250..or I can wait for the next sale phase to see if I can get anything better price wise but I highly doubt it..

russy23 said:
Thankyou..I have built up a few points so yea can get for £250..or I can wait for the next sale phase to see if I can get anything better price wise but I highly doubt it..
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Think the current price of £329 is an offer, dunno if it'll get cheaper soon. Sod it, make that purchase, you know you wanna!!

reg66 said:
Think the current price of £329 is an offer, dunno if it'll get cheaper soon. Sod it, make that purchase, you know you wanna!!
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Yup ordered..had to be done

russy23 said:
Yup ordered..had to be done
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Nice You got a previous tablet that this will replace or is this ur 1st?

reg66 said:
Nice You got a previous tablet that this will replace or is this ur 1st?
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Use the Lenovo p11 plus..can't complain, been ok..should get £150ish for it

russy23 said:
Use the Lenovo p11 plus..can't complain, been ok..should get £150ish for it
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Fair do, think that's what I bought my dad for birthday. Yeah, it's not too shabby either. Couple of extra GB ram in the Mi pad though, unless you have the 128GB version - think that's got 6GB too. Hope you like it, not bad after selling the Lenovo, getting the Pad 5 for about £100 - niice!
You gonna flash another rom or leave it stock for a while? Running AwakenOS on mine, I'm told it's the best rom for now, even though it's an initial build iirc
Pad 5 vs P11 Plus

reg66 said:
Fair do, think that's what I bought my dad for birthday. Yeah, it's not too shabby either. Couple of extra GB ram in the Mi pad though, unless you have the 128GB version - think that's got 6GB too. Hope you like it, not bad after selling the Lenovo, getting the Pad 5 for about £100 - niice!
You gonna flash another rom or leave it stock for a while? Running AwakenOS on mine, I'm told it's the best rom for now, even though it's an initial build iirc
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Was going to leave stock..is the latest android version out yet? Not flashed a new rom for a few years now

russy23 said:
Was going to leave stock..is the latest android version out yet? Not flashed a new rom for a few years now
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Seems to be... https://miuirom.org/tablets/xiaomi-pad-5

russy23 said:
Been out for a while but still look very good on paper...worth £250.. thanks
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Had it since a good while now and pretty happy with it. Would buy again no prob.

reg66 said:
Seems to be... https://miuirom.org/tablets/xiaomi-pad-5
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Thanks..not been released ota for global yet..not sure why

russy23 said:
Thanks..not been released ota for global yet..not sure why
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Why not just download the full recovery zip of 14.0.3 and flash it manually...
https://miuirom.org/updates/recovery-xiaomi#installing-the-firmware-through-the-recovery

reg66 said:
Why not just download the full recovery zip of 14.0.3 and flash it manually...
https://miuirom.org/updates/recovery-xiaomi#installing-the-firmware-through-the-recovery
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That's stock recovery?oh yea it says durp
So should I just do this method straight away or do any updates ota first?

russy23 said:
That's stock recovery?oh yea it says durp
So should I just do this method straight away or do any updates ota first?
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Hmm, I'm no expert but I would recommend updating to last MIUI 13 before the upgrade to 14, just to be safe. In theory, though, it shouldn't matter, as you'll be flashing the full rom so it should go through fine

reg66 said:
Hmm, I'm no expert but I would recommend updating to last MIUI 13 before the upgrade to 14, just to be safe. In theory, though, it shouldn't matter, as you'll be flashing the full rom so it should go through fine
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Thanks for your help.. hopefully be here tomorrow/Friday..and 80% off final fees on eBay this weekend