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Yes, I know...the answers are all in the forum. But those threads are pages and pages and pages and I just need someone to tell me if I'm on the right track.
Soon I'm going to have to have my Evo replaced because the USB port is loose and I assume it is eventually going to break completely. I would like to...
1 - root
2 - titanium backup
3 - factory reset
4 - get new phone
5 - root
6 - restore
My goal is to switch phones and not have to reinstall everything and redo all my settings. Am I on the right track?
I planned to use the 3-click root app that I found here on the forums, btw.
You can root without a reset and losing your data. I was able to use unrevoked 3.32. In my case I wanted to root but not flash a new ROM so I did not need or want to clear my data in the process.
I'm confused...Unrevoked's web site says it doesn't work on stock Froyo. Does that mean my Sprint Evo? Or do they mean if you have literally a stock Froyo, i.e. no HTC Sense?
Use z4root.
Download the app from the xda thread, it is not in the market. click temporary root. you will have a limited root access until next reboot. Use titanium backup. reboot phone, uninstall z4root. make sure to remove all files from SD card before bringing the phone to the sprint store.
I used the info here:
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/unrevoked3
If you have a stock Sprint Evo this should work for you. I have not tried it on an Evo running the latest OTA update but it should work. My Evo was a HW 0003 with Build 3.30.651.3 and HBOOT 2.02 and it worked fine. I was able to root and then install Titanium Backup to backup all of my data. I also made a Nandroid backup of the entire ROM before I did any experimenting. I still have not flashed a new ROM although I have experimented with some kernels. I still have my data on my phone at it exited before I rooted.
I would think you should be able to root, backup your data, and restore that data to another phone.
I also agree that z4root would work for you if you just want to do a backup of your data. This would save you from the trouble of unrooting before your exchange your phone.
What makes the z4root temporary?
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
m20120 said:
z4root achieves root access in a way that allows you do things that require root access without making any permanent changes to your phone. Once you will have root access until you reboot. This would allow you to install Titanium Backup (and busybox) and get a backup. You could then uninstall busybox, Titanium, and z4root and cleanup before the exchange.
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awesome. thanks to everyone for the quick answers.
ok so one last question. can I remove Sprint bloatware while it's temporarily rooted with z4root?
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
Yes. You should be able to remove preinstalled applications while you have temporary root. You can also use Titanium for that. This is the only mod that I have done to my stock Evo after rooting. Obvously you would only want to do that the the new phone.
I used Root Explorer and simply moved the unwanted apps to my sdcard so I could restore them later if I wanted them back or if I caused a problem by removing an app.
I did not used z4root but I understand that you can do anything with temporary root access that you would normally do with permnanant root except flash custom roms, recoveries and kernels. If you want to remain stock or just remove bloat this is a good way to go. You should even be able to run apps like Wireless Tether, etc tis way... you just have to get root again each time you reboot.
Fazulka said:
I'm pretty sure that you can not. And also sprint would know you were f-ing with the phone if all the bloat was missing.
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well that was for when I get the new phone. but thanks.
Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
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Hmmm... I just tried z4root my the wife's Evo (a bit newer than mine with the latest OTA) and it did not work. It told me that I had temp root but no program was able to get root access. Might have to do some more research.
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Yes I just had the same problem. Installed z4root, ran it, it went through the steps in about 30 seconds, said I was temporarily rooted...but Titanium Backup says it can't get root priveleges.
Rebooted, tried z4root again...same result.
I uninstalled z4root, installed busybox, rebooted, installed z4root...still doesn't work. it says it works, but Titanium Backup and busybox both say it's not rooted.
actually busybox is not installed. it won't install without root privileges. seems like a catch 22 if you have to root to install something that is required in order to root in the first place.
Hi,
This is a great site.
I am doing this cause I deleted some photos by accident and want to use one single program that needs the phone to be rooted. Because there is no mass storage connectivity you know how it goes.
I used Odin3 to install "CF-Auto-Root-t03g-t03gxx-gtn7100.tar.md5" to my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 with Android 4.3.
Odin says "PASS!". When I try to start the SuperSU (version 2.01, was installed by Odin and CANT BE UPDATED in the play store, not even removed only opened form play store. This was the most common fix that people are giving to this situation, but it does not work for me because there is no update possibility) Because KNOX says unauthorized attempt to access not accessible areas. SuperSU does not prompt the possibility to terminate KNOX like some people are advising to do, even tough the 2.01 version of SuperSU should be able to do this. Even the RootChecker says that my phone is not rooted.
So my assumption is that the Root has not worked on my phone even tough Odin says so. So I want to try some other approach to root this phone. I just would like to know should I do some check for what Odin HAS changed in my phone and to try to change them back so I can for example try Kingos root safely.
So the questions are:
Does some one have a possible fix to my problem without me having to re root?
How can and what should I check before trying another root?
If I have to go back with stuff that Odin did, without it doing the root properly how can I do that?
And one a bit different question:
If I factory reset my phone it will install the 4.1 I thin on it, has no KNOX, will it write that on the part that is empty and might include that data of my deleted pictures or does it write it on the area that has the previous data of the Android system?
Thanks for advance if there is any advises.
Partial answer:
I followed basicly this instruction,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538991
just needed to find the correct TWRP for my phone and used the older 1.65 SuperSU, there is something wrong with the 2.01 and it compatibility with my phone.
This video also helped cause the information was similar to the one in the link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQAkLgXjnCo
Installed the DiskDigger and got most of the photos, so now I need to find out how to convert it from root version to version so I can upgrade my phone.
Everything is really easy with Odin. If the packet that I installed with it first that does't istall the custom recovery system would have had some other KNOX combatible version of SuperSU I think it would have worked. No I just needed to use the KNOX remover to remove it from my phone.
Thanks for the form all the answers where her and it just took me some time.
I had hard time with finding how to root this phone but I might did this. Can you tell me if I discovered something or just really ****ed up?
I found this site. http://techglen.com/2015/02/14/how-...3-14-4-a-0-157-android-4-4-4-kitkat-firmware/
Downloaded the .ftf files. Flashed the .108 kernel and then just used the root option from flashtool. Flashed .157 back.
Everything is working. Root Checker says that I have root. I was able to hid the softkeys compeletly.
But couldn't find anyone using this method on here so.. Was I blind or just done something wrong?
People don't use your exact method , but in esence thats the way everyone roots on locked bootloader: flash an old stock kernel that is known to have a root exploit, root using that exploit(with flashtool or some other way) and after that flash the latest stock kernel that you will use. It's been this way for a long time for all the xperia devices.
Thanks for the answer. I'm so happy I finally got this phone. Been waiting for months! Earlier had to use ****Phone and even with jb it felt so bad. Maybe I'm an android fanboy. But with iOS I got that claustrophobic feel..
Even though I used the same guide and got root,the latest Root Explorer cannot seem to be able to open panel_id text file located in sys/devices/blahblah folder for example. Nor can it copy it to sdcard1. I get a message that I need root even though I've granted permissions to the app. Titanium seem to work OK. So what's the matter? Any ideas? How do I make sure I have full root access?
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hey sorry been a bit off lately. download root checker app from Google play store. this should tell you if you're rooted or not. or try to use root browser app
Root Explorer eventually can have root permissions off by default.
Check it's settings.
I reflashed XZDR 2.8.3 and SuperSU 2.48 beta and everything is fine. Maybe try the same.
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Hi, I have a brand new, stock, unlocked, international version GT-I9195I, which I updated to Android 4.4.4 before attempting to root. I attempted to follow the instructions given here for root access. I didn't realize until just now that these instructions were for a slightly different model, the GT-I9195, not the GT-I9195I.
Two questions: first, have I done any harm by attempting to flash the GT-I9195 recovery onto my GT-I9195I? (It still boots and appears to work normally.) Second, where are the instructions to get root access for this particular model (Baseband version I9195IXXU1AOB1)? I found a thread here for installing TWRP but it doesn't seem to mention how to get root...
Use kingroot for rooting...just install the app and press root
Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks for the advice! Kingroot was successful on the second attempt at obtaining root access.
However, I do have a follow-up question. Can I install a superuser app like SuperSU, then uninstall kingroot, and still retain root access? Kingroot's Purify feature shut down my alarm clock app and some others I want to run at startup, and toggling apps in the "Auto-start" setting of kingroot seems to have no effect. I uninstalled Purify but it still interferes.
Yes, you need to use Super Sume: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=darkslide.com.supersumepro
Hi,
Does anyone know if this phone can be fully UN-rooted so apps like Barclays Bank app and Pingit can work on it?
Supersu unroot doesn't work nor do Hide Root stuff.
Mine was pre-loaded with Eragon ROM by the Ebayer who I got it from which in general was a good thing.
In the meantime, I've put it back to stock.
Can anyone install Pingit app on this phone? (you don't need a Barclays account or anything... just try and install it and it detects root).
Thanks.
Hmm no replies to this one.
OK, can someone confirm to me whether the P8000 is FULLY unrooted when it's new? The hardware is great so I'm thinking of getting the Vowney but not if Elephone mobiles are rooted from the start.
I know it's all about rooting and putting custom ROMs but it's annoying when some apps you NEED (like banking) won't run on them.
Can someone who hasn't done anything to their P8000 check for me please? Just download the Barclays Pingit app and try to install it. If it installs, it's fully unrooted.
Thanks.
You can install the Stock Firmware with so Flashtool soul be unrooted then
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Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
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MikeJT said:
Certainly with my P8000 and many others from comments in this forum, the phone came with some of the necessary root files/binaries installed. To root all that was necessary for me was to install SuperSU from the Play store.
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Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
MrBoingy said:
Yeah, my hope is to fully UN-root the phone (so it's NOT rooted). There are certain apps like Barclays Banking and Pingit apps that won't install if it even sniffs that it's been rooted.
So, the guy I got the phone from put Eragon OS on it for me. So it must have got rooted then.
I've flashed it myself following the instructions on the official Elephone site using the Flashtool and put the latest Stock Rom on (complete with malware!) but it is still classified as ROOTED.
Root Checker says: Root access is not properly installed on this device.
My other phone (LG G Flex 2) is DEFINITELY not rooted and it comes up with the same 'not properly installed' as well but is ok with Barclays apps.
If I flashed the stock back on, should I theoretically be fully unrooted (obviously not...). What do I need to do to FULLY unroot it please?
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
bjbirch said:
Do you have SuperSU installed?
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Nope, I've literally just flashed it with the latest stock ROM (20151105). No virus in this one!
Barclays apps still think it's rooted.
Sorry for asking noob questions but Root doesn't survive Flashing does it?
Try checking with root checker app from playstore
Yeah I said in the previous post:
Root Checker says the same on my definitely UNROOTED LG G FLex 2 and on my Stock Rom P8000 which I've just flashed.
Root access is not properly installed on this device.
Barclays Bank app works fine on my Flex but root is detected on the P8000 saying it's rooted.
So is it possible to TOTALLY UN-ROOT the phone? UN-ROOT. Not Root. UN-ROOT.
Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
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Download es file manager ,go to system check sbin,xbin and bin folders for su files and delete them if you find any
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Interesting...
So, for example, in the xbin folder I have:
sugote
sugote-mksh
supolicy
daemonsu
BIN folder has:
superumount
There's no sbin folder.
You mean I should delete ANYTHING that has the letters SU in those folders?
When the P8000 is flashed with the stock rom using the FlashTool, what does it do? Does it blat EVERYTHING on the phone or does it leave something somewhere to indicate it's been rooted before?
If it does wipe EVERYTHING and it sets the phone back to how it would be when it's shipped from Elephone, it does indicate that there is some sort of ROOT (files or whatever) to make some apps complain.
Surely there is SOMEONE here who can tell me whether their P8000 is FULLY UNROOTED or not (by trying to install the Pingit app).
I'm almost a fan of buying these generic, no brand China phones cos they're ridiculously cheap and fast but if they're pre-rooted (in some form), they're not much use since you can't run certain apps on them (especially if no-one knows how to UNROOT them). The Elephone Vowney looks so desirable!
Go to system>xbin and see if su file is on your phone and try deleting just the file with the name su and no other files
Nope, no file called SU in there.
So, my question now is:
Eragon ROM WAS put on this phone.
I've now flashed it with stock ROM.
Should it now be UN-rooted? Or at least, as much as it was when it leaves the factory? (obviously it's not EXACTLY the same because the Stock ROM I flashed is much newer).
OR, are Elephone ALWAYS rooted (either half or fully... enough to trip up certain apps)?
I know that if you get phones like OnePlus One, which had a 'custom' ROM (CM), it was still fully un-rooted (ie you can use banking apps on it).
try simply unroot app
It always works for me
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.pinpong.simplyunroot
Hehe I'm interested to see what happens here.
Root Checker says it's unrooted (or it says it's not properly rooted - which isn't necessarily the same.. although that's what it says on my Flex 2 which is DEFINITELY not rooted).
Barclays bank app says it's rooted.
I need to root the device to use the Simply Unroot app.
What are the chances this is going to work..... I know it's only £0.68 but.....
I'll give it a go when I get home!
Thanks.
Nope, Simply Unroot didn't work although I didn't have much hope.
What's the explanation for this kind of thing... where it's flashed with stock rom and apps can tell it's rooted (even Root Checker says it's unrooted).
Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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Try downloading titanium backup from play store and opening it
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By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
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Sounds like a problem with the Barclay's app
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MrBoingy said:
By the way, the guy who sells Simply Unroot is VERY VERY VERY helpful.
Really nice guy.
He spent a lot of time trying to sort this out for me. In the end, we were unable to get Barclays app to run.
Root Checker and Simply Unroot both thought the phone was unrooted but Barclays apps thinks it is rooted.
Anyway, the point is, even after all his help, he gave me a refund.
5 stars for the developer for his support!
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i will make an unroot flashable zip soon .
after barclays app and other bank apps will work
-i will inform you here , when it is ready-