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Can anyone chime in? I did search and found that these seem to be the best available, but didn't find a comparison.
Do they both work the same in sunlight? or is there an advantage to the matte anti-fingerprint version?
I don't like having to find a shady spot when I'm outside to see what's on my screen
I have the ultraclear on and love it. Great in the sun and fingerprints show.up less then the glass I would just get ultra clear
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ckombo said:
Can anyone chime in? I did search and found that these seem to be the best available, but didn't find a comparison.
Do they both work the same in sunlight? or is there an advantage to the matte anti-fingerprint version?
I don't like having to find a shady spot when I'm outside to see what's on my screen
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I've owned both for various phones and am currently using the Ultra Clear on my EVO:
Ultra Clear
Pros:
1. Ultra clear
2. Reduces fingerprinting compared to the naked screen
3. Very durable/scratch resistant
4. Very smooth feel, to me it feels just like the naked glass.
Cons:
1. Fit is not 100% perfect, it leaves a small gap all around it.
2. Still shows fingerprints (though less)
Anti-fingerprint
Pros:
1. Reduces fingerprinting drastically compared to the naked screen
2. Very durable/scratch resistant
3. Nice textured feel
Cons:
1. Reduces the clarity of the screen substantially, IMO so much so that I prefer not to use this protector for this reason alone.
ckombo said:
Can anyone chime in? I did search and found that these seem to be the best available, but didn't find a comparison.
Do they both work the same in sunlight? or is there an advantage to the matte anti-fingerprint version?
I don't like having to find a shady spot when I'm outside to see what's on my screen
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Martin Fields is the very best. It even includes a camera lens protector. However it is very expensive.
I know its offtopic a little but what about bodyguardz?
I really cant find a difference between most but i know invisible shield is VERY Thick.
x iFLaWz said:
I know its offtopic a little but what about bodyguardz?
I really cant find a difference between most but i know invisible shield is VERY Thick.
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I know some people swear by Bodyguardz and I have used it on other devices. However it is a wet application product like Invisibleshield and more than one EVO user has claimed that water from the install ruined their phone. Therefore on my screen I will only use static application (water free) protectors such as the Steinheil or Seidio.
Besides for that how does it hold up to the other ones???
Docprego - thanks for the detailed comparison. Was ready to order the ultra clear until I read about the Martin Fields. (Thanks jerryparid)
The Martin Fields comes out to $27 shipped though! Pretty steep...
What I like about this one is the included camera lens protector. The aluminum ring around the camera lens is flush with the glass, which makes no sense. If they wanted to protect the glass, they should have recessed the glass into the aluminum ring a little bit.
Anyone know of a company selling just a small circle to cover the lens? Does the lens protector distort or reduce photo quality in any way? Thanks!
i got the Steinheil ultra clear and i found the resulting tactile response to be a bit worse than some of the other screen protectors i've tried, ie. sprints
ckombo said:
Docprego - thanks for the detailed comparison. Was ready to order the ultra clear until I read about the Martin Fields. (Thanks jerryparid)
The Martin Fields comes out to $27 shipped though! Pretty steep...
What I like about this one is the included camera lens protector. The aluminum ring around the camera lens is flush with the glass, which makes no sense. If they wanted to protect the glass, they should have recessed the glass into the aluminum ring a little bit.
Anyone know of a company selling just a small circle to cover the lens? Does the lens protector distort or reduce photo quality in any way? Thanks!
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I do not feel that the film reduces photo quality. It is crystal clear and glass-like. The cut is near perfect. However, Martin Fields does not offer the best performance under the sun (compared to anti-glare protectors).
I got the Steinheil Ultra Crystal Screen Protector from the SGP Store. I'll tell you, for $16.74 ($13.99 + $2.75) at the door, nothing can beat this excellent product.
Ordered online Sunday morning. Order was shipped on Monday and I got it today, Thursday.
Yes, I will confess it was a pain in the a** to get it right, not so much because of it being difficult to apply, but because I made the mistake to peel off the protector and then leave it like that for a while while double checking the instructions and videos in YouTube. What happened is that small lint particles floating in the air got stuck to the film, so when I applied it I had multiple pieces all over my screen.
Now, I must say, the provided "dust remover" stickers DO WORK. Use one to lift the film, another one to remove the particles adhered to the inside of the film or screen. (I kept 2 stickers on each corner of the film, since I had to peel from different angles. This saved me a lot of time.)
In my case, I just had so many it was totally exhausting to get them all out. But I did a pretty good job despite the initial setback. I was very meticulous and wanted it as perfect as possible, and I am happy to say that at the end it came out just like I wanted.
Also, I was a little worried after reading some of the posts here, regarding lower responsiveness to the touch. Well, I have ZERO issues with that. I am very impressed, actually. I can barely tell the protector is there, yes, it is ULTRA CLEAR indeed. Everything works just as it was before, to the slightest touch.
And since I am using the protector along with a black TPU case, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to tell there is a film covering the screen, because you cannot see the edges of the film. (The film is slightly smaller in dimensions than the actual screen, but it does cover the whole face, including buttons on the bottom.)
Overall, very pleased and happy. I recommend this product to everybody.
~fb
PS - I can't say much about glare under sunlight, since it is night time over here right now... But if anybody wants to know, I can update this thread tomorrow.
Greetings everyone!
This is my first post, so go easy on me .
I will be purchasing Xperia Z1 soon, so I did a bit of a research on the phone. To my disappointment, Sony puts an ASF (Anti Shatter Film) on the front and back sides of the phone. This film is NOT scratch resistant, so - as some people claim - a few weeks old phones already have some scratches (and this is with normal use). It can be removed, but it voids the warranty (I've read that this is only a screen warranty, but this needs to be confirmed). As a side note, you will also lose the Sony logo from the front as it is on the ASF (logo at the back of the phone is baked into the glass, though).
Additional info about ASF removal:
It is most probable that removing the ASF will void the warranty of the display but not the rest of the device.
akselic said:
Hi everyone.
I asked Sony for a clear explanation on the ASF and the warranty concerns that we have. I tried looking through but couldn't see if anoyne else got an official reply from them but here's what they told me in an email:
The purpose of the anti-shatter film (ASF) is to make the display on your Sony Xperia Z1 withstand being dropped from greater heights. The anti-shatter film has a positive effect on the sensitivity and accuracy of the touch screen. In the unlikely event of the glass cracking, the ASF can protect against cuts. If you peel off the ASF, the display loses its anti-shatter characteristics.
Removal of the ASF itself doesn´t void the warranty of the device. However, any physical or cosmetic damages to the display where the ASF is removed will void the warranty.
The ASF is unfortunately not scratch resistant, therefore it is not replaced within the warranty if it gets scratches. We advice you to apply a scratch resistant display cover on top of the ASF to protect it from scratches.
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For us as customers the key point is that our Z1 is still protected by the warranty after removing the ASF as long as we don't claim cosmetic or physical damage on the display that we have removed the film from. It might be a nice idea to add this in the OP as this is what their support department told me and it's how they treat the warranty regarding the ASF.
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Info updated, courtesy of akselic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47618032&postcount=42)
A WORD OF ADVICE:
In case you are planning to remove ASF, it is suggested to obtain such information yourself, as this statement from Sony official, might not be respected in a country you live in. Receiving a confirmation from a representative of the customer support yourself, will get your ass covered under most circumstances.
There are four options:
Get used to the scratches on your new phone (yeah, right)
Buy a scratch resistant film
Buy a tempered glass protector
Buy a liquid screen protector
None of these options are perfect. Here is why:
Self Explanatory, unleass you are a fan of a weathered look
The films, while getting more and more advanced, are still a piece of plastic, and will never look and feel like a premium glass surface. Additionally, they wear out in time and need to be replaced. On the plus side, they provide a good scratch protection (and shatter protection if anyone cares about this), with almost no added thickness to the phone.
Tempered Glass protectors feel as the true surface of the phone - this means a lot for a device that is "felt" with your fingers 90% of the time. They do not wear as quickly as the film, but they can crack if hit hard enough. However they will typically take the blow themselves thus saving your screen. Unfortunately they add to the thickness of the phone (typically between 0,2 - 0,4 mm which is 0,008" - 0,016"). Also, there will be a problem obtaining a Glass protector for the back of your Z1.
I have not analyzed this subject thoroughly, as my thread will be about the Tempered Glass protectors. However, I think it's still worth mentioning. I don't know if the three product I've found have the same properties, but it seems that it involves Sapphire (which is 9H on the Mohs Scale) applied as a liquid through a nano technology. I don't know much about it, so I will not list the pros and cons.
Here are the liquids I've found:
Dynaflow Liquid Armour Screen Protector
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=xdadevelopers-21
Crystalusion Liquid Glass Screen Protector
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/crystalusion-liquid-glass-screen-protection-p39834.htm
Nanostate Liquid Sapphire
http://www.nanostate.co/scratch-proof-screen/
I you are anything like me, you're probably striving to retain this premium glass feel of the Xperia Z1. Therefore, only options 3 and 4 are valid for you. Unfortunately - even if liquid protection works as advertised, it can be applied only to a glass surface (or so I have been told). What it means, is you would have to get rid of ASF, and lose the warranty. This leaves us with option 3 - The Tempered Glass protector.
I've looked around the internet and it seems, that - although the problem with Z1's ASF is prevalent - the information about eligible glass protectors is somewhat scattered. Some of the most useful info I've found in these forums, and that is why I've decided to put my findings here.
I have not tested the products below (which is understandable, since I don't have the Z1 yet), so I'm counting on you guys, to provide some insight. For me and anyone who might be interested in buying one.
I've put all the info I could find on these glass protectors, but something might be inaccurate (e.g. a product looks different on two different photos). If editing posts is possible on these forums, I will update my list with the data you provide. Please provide the source if you want me to update the info.
Products are listed alphabetically. The price is the lowest I could find. The exchange rates are from 2013-11-09. All manufacturers claim that their product was designed for Xperia Z1.
ARMORZ
Link: http://www.armorz.com/en/products/Films/Sony/Xperia-Z1/l105
Price: 34.95 / 44,95 USD (approx. 25,80 / 33,19 EUR) depending on chosen variant
Thickness: 0,2 mm / 0,4 mm (0.008" / 0,016") depending on chosen variant
Strength: 8 / 9H depending on chosen variant
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: There are 2 variants of the phone: Stealth Extreme Light and Stealth Extreme R. The 'Light' version is thinner and cheaper, but has lower strength.
Info updated, courtesy of reventon_703 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48061956&postcount=83)
Brando
Link: http://shop.brando.com/Brando-Works...-Edition-Sony-Xperia-Z1-_p10088c1626d008.html
Price: 27.00 USD (approx. 20,20 EUR)
Thickness: 0,3 mm (0,012")
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: The version I've found has rounded edges which I feel, will not fit the Z1 perfectly. There was a version with regular edges, but it is no longer available. The thickness is not provided by the manufacturer.
Info updated, courtesy of JuicyBrah (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47294372&postcount=3)
Clarivue
Link: http://www.clarivue.com/sony-c6903-xperia-z1-xt-tempered-glass-screen-protector-cover
Price: 34.99 USD (approx. 26,18 EUR)
Thickness: 0,3 mm (0,012")
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: ?
Sensor hole: ?
Back glass: No
Comment: The existance of camera and sensor holes cannot be confirmed nor denied by the photos. The holes are not mentioned in the description of the product.
Crystal Armor
Link: http://www.crystal-armor.com
Price: 3675 - 6300 YEN (approx 36.75 USD / 27,12 EUR - 63.00 USD / 46,49 EUR) - depending on chosen variant
Thickness: 0,2 mm (0.008") / 0,33 mm (0.013") - depending on chosen variant
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes/No - depending on chosen variant
Back glass: Yes
Back camera hole: Yes
Comment: There are 4 variants of Tempered Glass protectors for Z1 from this manufacturer:
1) Front 0,33 mm (0.013") thick
2) Back 0,33 mm (0.013") thick
3) Front+Back 0,33 mm (0.013") thick.
4) Front 0,2 mm (0.008") thick (no sensor hole!)
This is currently (as of 2013-11-20) the only confirmed manufacturer that provides a Tempered Glass protectors for the back of Z1. Also 4th variant (Front; 0,2 mm thick) is the only known glass protector that doesn't have a sensor cutout.
Info updated, courtesy of reventon_703 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47566993&postcount=40), (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47641330&postcount=46)
Info updated, courtesy of 1337rice (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48354033&postcount=110)
Glass-M
Link: http://theglass-m.com/products/glass-m-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z1
Price: 16.00 USD (approx. 12,71 EUR)
Thickness: 0,2 mm (0,008")
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: TBA
Comment: The existance of camera and sensor holes cannot be confirmed nor denied by the photos. The holes are not mentioned in the description of the product. I have contacted the manufacturer to obtain this data. The protective glass for the back of the Z1 is rumored to be released (Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46677343&postcount=1)
Info updated, courtesy of snetwork (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47318656&postcount=11)
Huizhou City Junsi Electronics Co., Ltd.
Link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Tem...d glass screen protector&tag=xdadevelopers-21
Price: 20.64 USD (approx. 15,24 EUR) - this is for Front + Back tempered glass protectors
Thickness: ?
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: Yes*
Sensor hole: No*
Back glass: Yes
Comment: I couldn't find a manufacturer shop or website. Please provide info if you can. Clarity of the glass is 98%+**
* - judging solely by the photos (no info provided by the manufacturer). Confirmation needed.
** - confirmation needed
Info updated, courtesy of TheCraig (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47779512&postcount=59)
Kawin (Shenzhen Kawin Optical Materials)
Link: http://www.kawintape.com/product/html/?67.html
Price: ?
Thickness: 0,4 mm (0,016")
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: ?
Sensor hole: ?
Back glass: No
Comment: I couldn't find a place to buy it. The existance of camera and sensor holes cannot be confirmed nor denied by the photos. The holes are not mentioned in the description of the product.
Muvit
Link: http://mymuvit.net/muvit/control/pr...593EC6674B3864D6C486.jvm1?productId=SESCP0013
Price: 18,90 EUR (approx. 25.26 USD)
Thickness: ?
Strength: 8H
Oleophobic coating: No
Front camera hole: Yes
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: The thickness is not provided by the manufacturer. There is a hole in the glass for the camera which in my opinion should not be exposed.
Nillkin
Link: http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=13&id=3638&page=1
Price: 15.89 USD (approx. 11,89 EUR)
Thickness: 0,3 mm (0,012")
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: Nillkin provides a back protection, but it is a plastic film (Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47128312&postcount=24). The size of the Nillkin glass protector is smaller than the actual screen of Xperia Z1 by ~1 mm in height and ~1 mm in width (so it is ~0,5 mm from each side).
Info updated, courtesy of ksoze (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47298655&postcount=8)
Info updated, courtesy of Shem2409 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47521338&postcount=34)
Spigen
Link: http://www.spigen.co.jp/goods_detail.html?input_goods_id=355
Price: 3765 YEN (approx. 28,20 EUR, 37.69 USD)
Thickness: 0,4 mm (0,016")
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No*
Sensor hole: Yes*
Back glass: No
Comment: Oddly, this product is available only in Japan.
* - judging solely by the photos (no info provided by the manufacturer). Confirmation needed.
I hope you will find this post useful. If you have anything to add (a new manufacturer/data/clarification/etc.) please do not hesitate.
DISCLAIMER
I am not affiliated with any of these manufacturers.
RELATED THREADS
Front and Back Tempered Glass
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2492878
Screen protection for those who removes Shatter proof film
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450040
Temprered Glass Screen Protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461000
Xperia z1 screen protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439124
Guide: Perfect Screen Protector Installation Technique
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015394
UPDATES
2013-11-10, 7:22pm
Updated Brando and Nillkin
2013-11-10, 9:59pm
Updated Glass-M
Added Updates section
Small font adjustments
Got rid of the typos
Corrected wording
2013-11-13, 11:57am
Corrected Nillkin spelling
2013-11-20, 2:18am
Added information about Nillkin size in relation to Z1 screen
Added Crystal Armor to the list
Added information about ASF removal
2013-11-26, 2:17am
Added additional info about ASF removal. Rephrased a disclaimer
Added Huizhou City Junsi Electronics Co., Ltd. to the list
Corrected information about Crystal Armor
Removed redundant info about not finding any tempered glass back covers
2013-12-02, 10:17pm
Added ARMORZ to the list
2013-12-14, 9:07pm
Updated Crystal Armor
2013-12-16, 12:48pm
Added "Guide: Perfect Screen Protector Installation Technique" link to the RELATED THREADS section
Nice thread mate. I bought the Nillkin one a few days ago I will report back with any extra information.
Shander said:
Brando
Link: http://shop.brando.com/Brando-Worksh...c1626d008.html
Price: 27.00 USD (approx. 20,20 EUR)
Thickness: ?
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No*
Sensor hole: No*
Back glass: No
Comment: The version I've found has rounded edges which I feel, will not fit the Z1 perfectly. There was a version with regular edges, but it is no longer available. The thickness is not provided by the manufacturer.
* - judging solely by the photos (no info provided by the manufacturer). Confirmation needed.
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Absolutely wrong, I have one on my Z1 And it conforms to the edges of the screen perfectly, it feels amazing to touch as well. There is a cutout for the proximity sensor but not the camera. The thickness is .3mm.
Cases still fit since they hug the bezel and not the screen.
EDIT: I think you may be confused at to what rounded edges means, it does not mean that the corners curve a lot, it simply means that the glass thickness tapers off at all edges so you don't have a layer of glass with sharp edges. A rounded edge screen protector and a non-rounded one will have the exact same fit on a screen, but the one without rounded edges will have a 90 degree angle the edges in the Z-Y or Z-X plane, while the rounded one will have a smooth gradient.
JuicyBrah - did you remove the shatter protector on your screen first?
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JuicyBrah - did you remove the shatter protector on your screen first?
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Yeah I did.
I like that the Sony logo is gone.
Have you tested the waterproofing now that you have? What about the back one?
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Clownzer said:
Have you tested the waterproofing now that you have? What about the back one?
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Yeah, I use it in the shower every day. I've left the back one on since I have a case.
JuicyBrah said:
Absolutely wrong, I have one on my Z1 And it conforms to the edges of the screen perfectly, it feels amazing to touch as well. There is a cutout for the proximity sensor but not the camera. The thickness is .
Cases still fit since they hug the bezel and not the screen.
EDIT: I think you may be confused at to what rounded edges means, it does not mean that the corners curve a lot, it simply means that the glass thickness tapers off at all edges so you don't have a layer of glass with sharp edges. A rounded edge screen protector and a non-rounded one will have the exact same fit on a screen, but the one without rounded edges will have a 90 degree angle the edges in the Z-Y or Z-X plane, while the rounded one will have a smooth gradient.
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I can also confirm that the Nillkin does NOT have a cutout for the camera either - only the proximity sensor.
The edges are beveled so that the glass layer feels almost built into the phone. Non beveled glass edges are by no means sharp to the touch, but beveled edges make a huge difference IMO. It gives it a very premium feel to the protector.
JuicyBrah said:
Yeah I did.
I like that the Sony logo is gone.
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Could you upload pictures?
ksoze said:
I can also confirm that the Nillkin does NOT have a cutout for the camera either - only the proximity sensor.
The edges are beveled so that the glass layer feels almost built into the phone. Non beveled glass edges are by no means sharp to the touch, but beveled edges make a huge difference IMO. It gives it a very premium feel to the protector.
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agreed, I had the speigen models that had sharpish edges, very annoying as the glass would slightly scratch my face/ear when trying to talk
adrenalinh12890 said:
Could you upload pictures?
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Sorry for the delayed response, but here you are.
Thank you all for participating in this thread and sharing your knowledge. This is awesome! I just love communities which are so responsive.
shem2409 said:
Nice thread mate. I bought the Nillkin one a few days ago I will report back with any extra information.
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Thanks mate!
JuicyBrah said:
Absolutely wrong, I have one on my Z1 And it conforms to the edges of the screen perfectly, it feels amazing to touch as well. There is a cutout for the proximity sensor but not the camera. The thickness is .3mm.
Cases still fit since they hug the bezel and not the screen.
EDIT: I think you may be confused at to what rounded edges means, it does not mean that the corners curve a lot, it simply means that the glass thickness tapers off at all edges so you don't have a layer of glass with sharp edges. A rounded edge screen protector and a non-rounded one will have the exact same fit on a screen, but the one without rounded edges will have a 90 degree angle the edges in the Z-Y or Z-X plane, while the rounded one will have a smooth gradient.
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I actually based my commentary on the photo, since there is no other reference material (the system is not allowing me to add an outside link - which is odd because I was able to put a bunch of links in my opening post - but the photo can be seen on Brando's website). Thank you very much for this clarification. I've already updated my first post to reflect the data you've provided.
JuicyBrah said:
Yeah I did.
I like that the Sony logo is gone.
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Removing ASF is actually a very interesting topic. I think I'll add a poll to see if people remove their ASF before applying the glass protector.
ksoze said:
I can also confirm that the Nillkin does NOT have a cutout for the camera either - only the proximity sensor.
The edges are beveled so that the glass layer feels almost built into the phone. Non beveled glass edges are by no means sharp to the touch, but beveled edges make a huge difference IMO. It gives it a very premium feel to the protector.
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Thanks! Info about Nilkin updated.
danw_oz said:
agreed, I had the speigen models that had sharpish edges, very annoying as the glass would slightly scratch my face/ear when trying to talk
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I know that the Spigen I've found is sold in Japan only but perhaps someone can confirm whether they made the edges rounded for the Z1 protector?
snetwork said:
I have got the Glass-M protector for zperia z1. Have outcut for seonsor. So far is good.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Thank you! Info about Glass-M updated. Could you post a picture with Glass-M on your phone?
JuicyBrah said:
Sorry for the delayed response, but here you are.
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Looks interesting without the logo. How is the viewing angle since the ASF was removed?
adrenalinh12890 said:
Looks interesting without the logo. How is the viewing angle since the ASF was removed?
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I don't see any noticeable difference, but the glare is Mitch lower now and direct sunlight looks a lot better.
JuicyBrah said:
I don't see any noticeable difference, but the glare is Mitch lower now and direct sunlight looks a lot better.
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I just installed my nillkin today and it made me very happy. I removed the ASF also. The screen is now much more clearer, smoother, and the colors are more vivid. With the Sony logo being removed, I feel the phone looks sleeker and incognito-ish. I have read brando is thinner but I have yet to try it.
adrenalinh12890 said:
I just installed my nillkin today and it made me very happy. I removed the ASF also. The screen is now much more clearer, smoother, and the colors are more vivid. With the Sony logo being removed, I feel the phone looks sleeker and incognito-ish.
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This is actually quite valuable, although JuicyBrah said that he doesn't see any noticeable difference (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47378880&postcount=15). If what you're saying is true, you've just convinced me to remove my ASF
adrenalinh12890 said:
I have read brando is thinner but I have yet to try it.
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According to the info again provided by JuicyBrah (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47294372&postcount=3), Brando is 0,3 mm, so it's the same as Nillkin. The thinnest I could find is Glass-M (0,2 mm).
adrenalinh12890 said:
I just installed my nillkin today and it made me very happy. I removed the ASF also. The screen is now much more clearer, smoother, and the colors are more vivid. With the Sony logo being removed, I feel the phone looks sleeker and incognito-ish. I have read brando is thinner but I have yet to try it.
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How did you remove the ASF? was it hard? I have glass-m did you put it straight on or wipe screen?:fingers-crossed:
dazza7111 said:
How did you remove the ASF? was it hard? I have glass-m did you put it straight on or wipe screen?:fingers-crossed:
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Removing the ASF was easy. I used an X acto knife to start peeling off at a corner. Once it is gripable, you can peel it yourself from there. After that, I washed the screen with soap and hot water since it is waterproofed. :fingers-crossed: Then, I immediately apply the screen after it dried off.
asf warranty
To all who removed their asf, aren't you worried about the warranty? Especially with all the reboot/shutdown and other random problems this phone has? People have been able to get their unit exchanged for a new one because of those issues, but without the asf what are the chances it would be replaced?
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To all who removed their asf, aren't you worried about the warranty? Especially with all the reboot/shutdown and other random problems this phone has? People have been able to get their unit exchanged for a new one because of those issues, but without the asf what are the chances it would be replaced?
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I've found two posts regarding this problem:
gregbradley said:
Removing the factory fitted screen protector does not void Warrenty.
I removed mine on my Xperia T, then several months later the screen cracked after it dropped several metres and I got a replacement free of charge with no question asked about the lack of screen protector
Sent from my C6903 using xda premium
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46243374&postcount=26
OfficerTux said:
I emailed the German Sony Support regarding the Shatterproof Protector and the warranty. According to them, if you remove it you will loose the warranty for mechanical and cosmetic defects of the screen, not for the entire phone.
I also asked whether one could buy a genuine replacement of the protector, but that is not possible at the moment.
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46763629&postcount=33
I'm guessing this might be related to the country you live in. Different consumer rights may apply. I believe it would be the best if you'd contact them directly about this.
When I first got my S8+, I was worried the back glass would scratch easy (turns out I was right ), so I wanted to protect it, even though I knew I would have a case on it. I've seen dirt get between phones and cases before and cause horrible scratches.
I first tried a clear wet application skin from BSE, but I could never make it look right. The midnight black shoes every imperfection and bubble, whereas my wife's Orchid Grey looks perfect with the skin on. You can't tell it's there, even on the sides.
So I began thinking it would be nice if someone made a tempered glass protector for the back. The sides are curved, but so is the screen, and there's plenty of TGSPs on the market. But I couldn't find any.
Then last week I saw one on Amazon. It comes with a full screen TGSP, a TGP for the back, and a TGP for the camera. Link is below.
It appears the back protector is like other TGSPs. It has no glue on the middle, just along the edges. That's not a big deal, as I would apply it like I did my TGSP. I would remove the adhesive strip on the edge and use LOCA to adhere it fully to the phone. Most camera lens TGPs get horrible reviews on Amazon, so it would likely go in the trash.
I'm trying to decide what to do. Here are my pros and cons, but I wanted everyone else's opinion, and also want to know if anyone else has any experience with this set. Again, I'm currently using a TGSP for the screen, so this is a question about the TGP for the BACK.
Pros:
*Protection for the back cover as well as the front.
*Protects from scratches and adds some drop protection
*Protectors are both glass, so it would still feel like a naked device.
*Back protector is Crystal clear, and with LOCA, would show off the beautiful black back glass without any bubbles, glare, etc.
*Glass doesn't get marks and dents like wet application protectors.
Cons:
*It would (probably) be too thick to use a case, so increased chance of damage if dropped.
*These TGSPs typically use cheap oleophobic coatings, so it would still be a fingerprint magnet on the back.
*This would leave a ridge around the screen and the back protector, so it MAY make it uncomfortable to hold.
*No protection for the side frame
*It will scratch (but can always be replaced)
*I wish the cutouts were more precise. I'd like three separate cutouts for camera and sensors, not one big one. Would make it more seemless.
Again, looking for other thoughts and opinions and any experience.
No offense, but if all you have to say is that you go naked and have no scratches, or that you don't like screen protectors, then please don't reply. I'm not interested in a screen protector debate. I'm only interested in your opinions about this particular set and using a protector on the back. Also, I know about the liquid nano stuff and have no interest in it. I've seen all the reviews.
Thanks!
JimBird Tempered Glass Screen Protector Front + Back + Camera Lens Protector For Galaxy S8 Plus S8+ 9H Anti-Scratch Anti-Fingerprint https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073S4YZW1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_MohHzbHWHA99A
I've got couple of cases and screen protectors, for anyone interested here are my observations:
Note: links to products are random, do your own search before buying.
1. Nillkin Super frosted case, purchased for 4.7 eur
Pros:
- good fit
- comes with a soft screen protector
- hard case
- rubbery non slipping surface
Cons:
- bundled screen protector is is smaller than the actual display and scratches extremely easily, smudges quickly, hard to clean
- rubbing against the surface can irritate the skin as it's a bit harsh/sharp
- uncomfortable to hold for prolonged time due to above (ebook reading)
2. Imak hard "cowboy" case, purchased for 6.1 eur
Pros:
- hard case with good fit
- non slippery, sandpaper like surface
- no sharp edges anywhere
- bundled with a soft screen protector (didn't try it yet, but probably the same as Nillkin)
Cons:
- probably none
3. Noname "Luxury Ultra Thin Soft TPU Silicone Matte Rubber Case Cover" for less than 1 usd
Pros:
- extremely pleasant to touch, probably the best of all cases
- good fit, really thin
Cons:
- soft case, can deform over time
4. Noname "For Xiaomi Mi A1/5X Luxury Plating Clear TPU Case Shockproof Soft Rubber Cover" for 2.3 usd
Pros:
- none really
Cons:
- standard clear TPU case, thicker than other
- blue color is in fact purple
- slippery when wet
5. Gadgetshieldz ultra clear screen protector for 8.95 usd
Pros:
- full display coverage
- doesn't impact touch response
Cons:
- complicated wet installation
- a bit rubbery feel
- some edges are not fully glued even after more than 12 hours
- doesn't fully clear up, heavily distorts the screen even after few days (diffraction of pixels?), very visible with white color on the screen. It should be hard to peel off from the display, but it gets off with almost no effort, so shield probably isn't fully compatible with Mi A1 display (or its coating).
6. Full cover tempered glass screen protector, pack of 2 for 2.5 usd
This one didn't arrive yet, but I have very similar protector on another phone
Pros:
- easy installation
- full coverage
- real glass, oleophobic, feels like "naked" screen
- scratch resistant
- cheap
Cons:
- breaks easily
- glass itself is not glued to the screen (only the black/white edges)
- sometimes visible dotted pattern (touch sensitive layer)
- adds a bit of bulk to the phone (not an issue while using a back cover though)
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Considering price and "performance" ratio, my picks are #2, #3 for case and #6 for screen protector.
_mysiak_ said:
I've got couple of cases and screen protectors, for anyone interested here are my observations:
Note: links to products are random, do your own search before buying.
1. Nillkin Super frosted case, purchased for 4.7 eur
Pros:
- good fit
- comes with a soft screen protector
- hard case
- rubbery non slipping surface
Cons:
- bundled screen protector is is smaller than the actual display and scratches extremely easily, smudges quickly, hard to clean
- rubbing against the surface can irritate the skin as it's a bit harsh/sharp
- uncomfortable to hold for prolonged time due to above (ebook reading)
2. Imak hard "cowboy" case, purchased for 6.1 eur
Pros:
- hard case with good fit
- non slippery, sandpaper like surface
- no sharp edges anywhere
- bundled with a soft screen protector (didn't try it yet, but probably the same as Nillkin)
Cons:
- probably none
3. Noname "Luxury Ultra Thin Soft TPU Silicone Matte Rubber Case Cover" for less than 1 usd
Pros:
- extremely pleasant to touch, probably the best of all cases
- good fit, really thin
Cons:
- soft case, can deform over time
4. Noname "For Xiaomi Mi A1/5X Luxury Plating Clear TPU Case Shockproof Soft Rubber Cover" for 2.3 usd
Pros:
- none really
Cons:
- standard clear TPU case, thicker than other
- blue color is in fact purple
- slippery when wet
5. Gadgetshields ultra clear screen protector for 8.95 usd
Pros:
- full display coverage
- doesn't impact touch response
- it's pretty much "invisible", though side view reveal "orange peel" effect
Cons:
- complicated wet installation
- a bit rubbery feel
- some edges are not fully glued even after more than 12 hours
- takes time to clear up
6. Full cover tempered glass screen protector, pack of 2 for 2.5 usd
This one didn't arrive yet, but I have very similar protector on another phone
Pros:
- easy installation
- full coverage
- real glass, oleophobic, feels like "naked" screen
- scratch resistant
- cheap
Cons:
- breaks easily
- glass itself is not glued to the screen (only the black/white edges)
- sometimes visible dotted pattern (touch sensitive layer)
- adds a bit of bulk to the phone (not an issue while using a back cover though)
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Considering price and "performance" ratio, my picks are #2, #3 for case and #6 for screen protector.
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The full screen protectors I've tried suck since you can clearly see the dots and a rainbow effect. It looks terrible. On the HTC 10 my full screen protector didn't have those dots.
I just wished there was a glass screen protector with oleophobic treatment (has the screen has) so it wouldn't get so much smudges, anyone knows one like that?
Cheers
Badelhas said:
The full screen protectors I've tried suck since you can clearly see the dots and a rainbow effect. It looks terrible. On the HTC 10 my full screen protector didn't have those dots.
I just wished there was a glass screen protector with oleophobic treatment (has the screen has) so it wouldn't get so much smudges, anyone knows one like that?
Cheers
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I've seen/had full screen protectors with
1. clearly visible dots, no rainbow
2. almost invisible dots with rainbow
3. almost invisible dots with no rainbow
All of them were extremely cheap and eBay listing seemed to be the same or very similar product. No idea how to distinguish them.. Once I receive the batch for A1, I'll confirm if it's with visible dots and rainbow
Btw. IMAK PRO+ full screen protector might be what we want, in the descriptions it's mentioned that whole protector is glued to the screen, so it shouldn't show any adverse effects. Maybe I'll try it later when I run out of cheap protectors.
ordered one of this case, wait it arrive at me.
i think its a nice case, i bought it before for my friend redmi 4x, will make the phone a little thick.
_mysiak_ said:
I've seen/had full screen protectors with
1. clearly visible dots, no rainbow
2. almost invisible dots with rainbow
3. almost invisible dots with no rainbow
All of them were extremely cheap and eBay listing seemed to be the same or very similar product. No idea how to distinguish them.. Once I receive the batch for A1, I'll confirm if it's with visible dots and rainbow
Btw. IMAK PRO+ full screen protector might be what we want, in the descriptions it's mentioned that whole protector is glued to the screen, so it shouldn't show any adverse effects. Maybe I'll try it later when I run out of cheap protectors.
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Thanks, if you try it please tell me if it's good. I've never spent more than 1 dollar on a screen protector since I tend to think they are all the same.
Cheers
Update about:
5. Gadgetshieldz ultra clear screen protector for 8.95 usd
It doesn't fully clear up, heavily distorts the screen even after few days (diffraction of pixels?), very visible with white color on the screen. Probably isn't fully compatible with Mi A1 display (or its coating).
However customer service was very nice, they sent me another shield, which unfortunately showed the very same problem. We agreed on refund (I will need to send used shield back). I can recommend the company, but not the product, at least with our phone.
I've tried a full coverage glass screen protector for my HTC 10 which didn't have micro dots, didn't have rainbow effect since it had glue in all the glass, not just the sides, it was perfect. For the Xiaomi Mi A1 I've come to the conclusion that there is no full coverage protector like that, they all have those stupid micro dots, makes the screen look terrible and I've decided that a smaller screen protector, which dosent cover the all screen, is the only way to go.
If someone finds a better full coverage protector please share with us.
Cheers
Here is my tempered glass and cover
https://youtu.be/4gnosMimHZA
rickiez said:
ordered one of this case, wait it arrive at me.
i think its a nice case, i bought it before for my friend redmi 4x, will make the phone a little thick.
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I have same .. and it looks good
Hi,
can someone suggest me a screen protector for xperia 5 II that covers the whole display?
I read a lot of reviews about screen protectors that are smaller than the screen due to the curved edges.
Actually I have a Spigen that covers the whole screen, but I want to try a new one.
Thanks in advance
The one i have covers the full screen but the touch sensitivity at the sides are bad. Looking for recommendations for full screen that does not affect the side sensitivity.
viperc said:
The one i have covers the full screen but the touch sensitivity at the sides are bad. Looking for recommendations for full screen that does not affect the side sensitivity.
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I use one made by polish company, its also not a glass one so you might not fancy it, but it has some cool stuff to it, like self regeneration(it kinda does that), 99% germ cancelling(confirmed by some polish government company, and tested by some european one with certificates) its sleek and doesnt change colors nor does it interfere with touch, the protector is 3mk SilverProtection+ im darn happy with it, but it might be hard to get outside Poland, although still worth a try. I also use spigen clear armor case
MasterDomino said:
I use one made by polish company, its also not a glass one so you might not fancy it, but it has some cool stuff to it, like self regeneration(it kinda does that), 99% germ cancelling(confirmed by some polish government company, and tested by some european one with certificates) its sleek and doesnt change colors nor does it interfere with touch, the protector is 3mk SilverProtection+ im darn happy with it, but it might be hard to get outside Poland, although still worth a try. I also use spigen clear armor case
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Thanks. I will prefer glass type screen protector still. I have used something similar in the past from phantom skinz.
I'm using the Gorilla IQ Sheild on my Note 10+ which has a curved screen. It's an inexpensive fairly easy wet apply urethane that's very durable. This one has been on for about 8 months... that amazes me. Zero issues.
Unfortunately I don't think one is available yet for your model... I may be wrong.
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Make sure you use a case that protects against faceplants and corner hits. I've been using the Zizo Bolt for over a year. No damage in spite of at least 6 drops on concrete.
baronebirra said:
Hi,
can someone suggest me a screen protector for xperia 5 II that covers the whole display?
I read a lot of reviews about screen protectors that are smaller than the screen due to the curved edges.
Actually I have a Spigen that covers the whole screen, but I want to try a new one.
Thanks in advance
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I got this from amazon japan
Amazon.co.jp: iPhone se2 Glass Film, Blue Light, iPhone 2nd Generation Protective Film, iPhone SE2 Film, Tempered Glass, Anti-Fingerprint, No Bubbles, No Interference, Easy to Install, 9H : Electronics
Amazon.co.jp: iPhone se2 Glass Film, Blue Light, iPhone 2nd Generation Protective Film, iPhone SE2 Film, Tempered Glass, Anti-Fingerprint, No Bubbles, No Interference, Easy to Install, 9H : Electronics
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I got the Supershieldz Glass cover through Amazon. I've been using it for four days and it's amazing. I've had to wipe the screen once in four days. I have a camera case, of course, and I can't feel a gap between the case and the cover but if I slip a fingernail in I can find a small gap.
141ptkelly said:
I got the Supershieldz Glass cover through Amazon. I've been using it for four days and it's amazing. I've had to wipe the screen once in four days. I have a camera case, of course, and I can't feel a gap between the case and the cover but if I slip a fingernail in I can find a small gap.
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How's the side sensitivity with the screen protector? Still trying to find one that doesn't affect the side sensitivity.
It seems to be working fine. I can swipe to go back to the previous screen.
Hi,
I had recently bought this phone and currently looking for a film protector for the screen. Which one do you suggest?
Thanks in advance.
steffanos said:
Hi,
I had recently bought this phone and currently looking for a film protector for the screen. Which one do you suggest?
Thanks in advance.
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See my above post. Wet apply is the best way to go. My current one is over 8 months old.
Little wear for the amount of use it's seen.
When I get around to it I'll slam a new one on... at $5 a pop.
I've found it on their website. Though there are 2 variants:
-LIQuid Shield™ Sony Xperia 5 II Screen Protector
-IQ Shield Matte™ Sony Xperia 5 II Screen Protector
Do you use regular one or matte?
steffanos said:
I've found it on their website. Though there are 2 variants:
-LIQuid Shield™ Sony Xperia 5 II Screen Protector
-IQ Shield Matte™ Sony Xperia 5 II Screen Protector
Do you use regular one or matte
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I've never used the matte finish.
I have a Note 10+ with the curved screen and it works well. It should be no problem at all with a flat screen. Pay attention to letting it adhere properly at first. I waited about 6 hours but it was hot.
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Because for matte they state it's anti-glare and better generally with fingerprint marks (not visible).
Thanks for the help. If the rest have something else, be free to recommend.
steffanos said:
Because for matte they state it's anti-glare and better generally with fingerprint marks (not visible).
Thanks for the help. If the rest have something else, be free to recommend.
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You simply wipe it occasionally with a dry microfiber cloth; fingerprints aren't an issue.
viperc said:
How's the side sensitivity with the screen protector? Still trying to find one that doesn't affect the side sensitivity.
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I haven't noticed a problem but I normally don't have it turned on.
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Good value, seem to do its job.
Covers the flat part of the screen there is a a gap - as expected.
If you do not fit it perfectly, there may be a part that is not glued to the screen.
Quality seem good, maybe a little sharp edges.
I got what I expected, it may not be what you want though.
The fullscreen protectors are hard to fit and come off more easily. Some cases are hard to use with fullscreen protectors too (and I take off the case often).
The protector in combination with a Caseology Vault makes it harder to side sweep and to use side sense. Sensitivity for side sweep should be set to highest. I am not happy with this.