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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S10+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S10+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I'm going back to Samsung after a short stint with OnePlus and Xiaomi (OP5T, OP6, Mi8, OP6T) and after seeing the S10 launch event let's just say I'm seriously excited. Pre-ordered the pearl white with the free buds surrendering an LG V40 ending up paying around 595 for it. Build quality, One UI, new cameras, display, FP reader, all high on my list for this phone. Can't wait!
Coming from a Pixel 3xl nightmare to the new Galaxy is a night and day experience.
The cutout is pretty minimal. I don't mind it at all and prefer it to the notch. I also really love the screen. For my older eyes it is really clear and vibrant. Amoled just keeps getting better. The screen is pretty much the entire face of the phone. Pretty impressive and much better solution than a pop up camera.
Battery life seems good, speakers are loud but tinny. They are stereo but most of the sound comes from the bottom firing speaker.
Haven't tried cameras yet.
So far initial impressions are very good. Very fast and responsive except the boot up time. One UI slows things down.
Otherwise this phone is one of the best from Samsung in a while. Build quality is also very good.
The galaxy buds are not a gimmick. I have tried other airpod knock offs and they are okay or terrible. These have impressive dynamic range and decent bass. They fit really well in my ear. I don't like bluetooth or earbuds but I have to admit I like these a lot. Would I pay $129-probably not but I would pay closer to $100. They are really nice to have for free.
When you think about what you get and the trade in offers it makes it pretty hard to say no!
If you can still get the preorder and free Galaxy buds or gift card and do the trade in it is hard not to recommend. It is really feels and performs like a premium device and I don't mean that in a bragging way but to say when you hold it, you can see the attention to detail that went into it and it feels impressive.
I'm enjoying the state of the art 10th anniversary S10+! Cheers
Overall one of the best Samsung Galaxy phones to date. Still wish I could have stock android officially from Samsung.
This is over all, simply the best smartphone ever made. I got mine on the 6th, and have been infatuated with it ever since.
When I unboxed my Prism White S10+, I wasn't impressed. Coming from a ceramic Mi Mix 2S, the S10 didn't feel more premium than my Mi Mix. The camera also wasn't that great, and the phone was actually slightly slower than my Mi Mix 2S running on the very fast MIUI. However, after a full day of using the S10+, my mind changed. At first I was ready to return the phone and get a Mi 9 or P30 Pro instead, but now I'm definitely keeping it. The display, the battery, the headphone jack, the galaxy buds, the design..... absolutely love it, already.
I want to love my new s10+, but I'm not feeling it yet, the fingerprint sensor is not as reliable as my old s9 or my wifes s10e, and the battery is draining faster then my s9+, on the plus side it has double tap tap to wake, which was one if my favourite features on the LG g4 back in 2015
Hoping it grows on me
Anyone notice how much faster the wireless charging engages?
It's as fast as my XS Max (yes, iphone! LOL).
Not the speed of the charging, just the sensitivity to activate. Also does not seem to be nearly as sensitive to placement on the pad. Both my Note 9 and S9+ are picky and if I'm not careful to make sure they are centered on the charger they either won't engage or stop which is annoying.
jimsey said:
I want to love my new s10+, but I'm not feeling it yet, the fingerprint sensor is not as reliable as my old s9 or my wifes s10e, and the battery is draining faster then my s9+, on the plus side it has double tap tap to wake, which was one if my favourite features on the LG g4 back in 2015
Hoping it grows on me
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Feeling the same way. I think it goes back next week! I've lost 15% battery in an hour and all I've done is read on these forums. Absolutely terrible!
Why did you do it Samsung?
Absolutely superb phone severely crippled by the worst implementation of an in screen fingerprint sensor yet. I got 100% success rate on my OnePlus 6T and about 95% on the Huawaei Mate 20 Pro. I was getting around 50% before the update on the S10+ which has now gone up to around 70%. There doesn't seem to be any consistency to it either. I can put the same finger in exactly the same place and get different results. Sometimes the lightest touch unlocks it, other times I have to carefully place my finger completely flat exactly covering the sensor and frequently it will just keep telling me to press harder. I love the rest of the phone but I'm not sure I can live with this sensor.
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I want to love my new s10+, but I'm not feeling it yet, the fingerprint sensor is not as reliable as my old s9 or my wifes s10e, and the battery is draining faster then my s9+, on the plus side it has double tap tap to wake, which was one if my favourite features on the LG g4 back in 2015
Hoping it grows on me
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Have you recieved the new fingerprint update? Makes the experience so much better.
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I first bought the normal S10, and then I switched to the S10 + but since the May update the fingerprint sensor was damaged. I wrote to Samsung Members they told me that with the new update the problem was solved but today I update it and it keeps the problem.
if you have good bandwith, grab this video with tubemate in 2160p 60fps and watch this video with the samsung player.
https://youtu.be/LXb3EKWsInQ
the image quality is just awesome!
you can zoom in and jump without any delay. Thats so ****ing crazy what a small smartphone can do in these days!
I love Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus
Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus works by Exynos 9825 (7 nm) - EMEA / LATAM and Qualcomm SDM855 Snapdragon 855 Plus (7 nm) - Processor USA / China.
The size of Samsung Galaxy Note 10 Plus is 6.8 inches, 115.4 cm2 (about 92.2% screen to body ratio) and 1440 × 3040 pixels, 19: 9 (495 dpi).
The screen is protected by Corning Gorilla glass and HDR10 + and always feature display. The smartphone is equipped with a non-removable Li-Ion 4300 mAh battery.
Sensors include Iris scanner, fingerprint (under screen), accelerometer, rotation, proximity, compass, barometer, heart rate and SpO2.
The smartphone is 162.3 x 77.1 x 7.9 mm (6.39 x 3.04 x 0.31 inches) and weighs 198 grams (6.98 ounces) with the battery.
Anyone from US could please tell me where to find Best s10 plus deal? I will travel to Orlando this month with my family and I was looking at Best buy ...599 unlocked with activation ... now dunno why 969!!! why Galaxy phones are so expensive over there !
Amazing.
Such and Amazing phone
My Next Stint with Samsung: Going Great!
Around this time last month my Annual Upgrade was available on my old EE Max Plan with my P20 Pro, i was tempted to wait it out for the Note 10 but decided against it and went with the S10+ instead
In general, Amazing Phone, Exynos SoC's aren't as garbage as they used to be which is great, Camera System is awesome, though i do miss the P20 pro's dedicated monochrome sensor, not the end of the world, the Monochrome Filter is pretty good.
Honestly, OneUI is amazing, its such a change from the old Touchwiz Skins of old, yes it is still a bit bloated but Nowhere as bad as Touchwiz was and a lot of Sammy's Bloat apps are optional now like Samsung Internet and Samsung Pay (Which i cant use because they don't Support Metro Bank like Google Pay Does) and Samsung Good Lock allows you to further tweak OneUI to get it how you want it to look, which is really nice!
Obviously the "big" drawback of the Exynos9820 is the 4G idle battery drain, which i can't account for how bad it was when the phone launched, but from what i've read its not nearly as bad as it used to be.
but then again i can unlock the bootloader so i guess that's nice
overall a great phone so far, and looking forward to spending the next couple of years with it, and many years after that.
Everything about the phone is great, but the horrible fingerprint reader makes me hate the phone. Why isn't there a category for the fingerprint reader?
Has anyone come from the Note 10+ to the ROG 2?
Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen
Not a Note 10 but I've had a Note 9 for a year and I'm going to the ROG phone II, if I had a Note 10 though, I think I'd stick with it, I just could stomach the cost even with a Note 9 to trade in.
The Note's just do everything well (But not amazingly) in my opinion, are feature packed, fairly well supported by Samsung if you have issues and have very good cameras. Quite a few of those things you'll lose with the ROG Phone II.
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Has anyone come from the Note 10+ to the ROG 2?
Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen
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Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen [/QUOTE]
I've owned 9 Samsungs for the past years the last 2 Note 9 and Galaxy S10+.
Software: What's positive about Sammy but negative about ROG is the customization ie themes, wallpaper, fonts, app store etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy is game genie, touch response and 120hz refresh rate
Hardware: Positive for Sammy but negative for ROG - the stylus, top of the class cameras, screen, waterproofing, SD CARD, etc. Wireless charging, no headphone jack etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy - battery, SoC, shoulder triggers for gamers, headphone jack, stereo speakers, various gaming accessories, fan, and battery
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Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen
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I've owned 9 Samsungs for the past years the last 2 Note 9 and Galaxy S10+.
Software: What's positive about Sammy but negative about ROG is the customization ie themes, wallpaper, fonts, app store etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy is game genie, touch response and 120hz refresh rate
Hardware: Positive for Sammy but negative for ROG - the stylus, top of the class cameras, screen, waterproofing, SD CARD, etc. Wireless charging, no headphone jack etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy - battery, SoC, shoulder triggers for gamers, headphone jack, stereo speakers, various gaming accessories, fan, and battery[/QUOTE]
I haven't own a Samsung in years, but I've had most of the recent Oneplus and pixel phones and have to say, that 120hz screen and 6Ah battery are the real deal. I'm getting 3 days off the charger with no power saving efforts and everything is so buttery smooth. The fact that it was cheaper than a OnePlus 7 pro was icing on the cake
i have had all the Note until the 9. i will never go back to samsung now ROG 1 & 2 have been solid and i have a surface so don't need spen. If your looking for a fluid phone don't spend 2000 on a 60hz phone get a rog 2
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I've owned 9 Samsungs for the past years the last 2 Note 9 and Galaxy S10+.
Software: What's positive about Sammy but negative about ROG is the customization ie themes, wallpaper, fonts, app store etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy is game genie, touch response and 120hz refresh rate
Hardware: Positive for Sammy but negative for ROG - the stylus, top of the class cameras, screen, waterproofing, SD CARD, etc. Wireless charging, no headphone jack etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy - battery, SoC, shoulder triggers for gamers, headphone jack, stereo speakers, various gaming accessories, fan, and battery
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I haven't own a Samsung in years, but I've had most of the recent Oneplus and pixel phones and have to say, that 120hz screen and 6Ah battery are the real deal. I'm getting 3 days off the charger with no power saving efforts and everything is so buttery smooth. The fact that it was cheaper than a OnePlus 7 pro was icing on the cake[/QUOTE]
did u use global or cn rom?
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I haven't own a Samsung in years, but I've had most of the recent Oneplus and pixel phones and have to say, that 120hz screen and 6Ah battery are the real deal. I'm getting 3 days off the charger with no power saving efforts and everything is so buttery smooth. The fact that it was cheaper than a OnePlus 7 pro was icing on the cake
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Global
Thanks for your help guys! Got my 12/512gb WW (north american version) on Tuesday and absolutely wrapped with it!! Fcking fantastic! Probably my only gripe is the lack of screen protector out of the box (no VoLTE doesnt worry me either) - so happy with it! Now selling the Note10+
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Thanks for your help guys! Got my 12/512gb WW (north american version) on Tuesday and absolutely wrapped with it!! Fcking fantastic! Probably my only gripe is the lack of screen protector out of the box (no VoLTE doesnt worry me either) - so happy with it! Now selling the Note10+
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I know how you feel. Ditched my s10+ for this lovely device. Never going back.
I almost got a Note 9, but went with the ROG PHone 2, just way too much bang for the buck!!
I've had both. I have a Note 8, purchased the Note 10 +, I was trying to wrap my mind around it because to be quite frank, the screen of my Note 8 just was replaced fully paid by insurance because it had burn-in. Quite frankly, it's one thing to compare a Note 8 with nearly 2 years of screen usage versus one with a brand new new screen and a Note 10 Plus, it just wasn't enough of a difference to justify the 1700CAD that the phone cost me. It all came down to a 1700CAD flex, something I was not looking to do. I wanted a better phone.
Don't get me wrong, the screen was superior but ever so slightly. And, I don't take photos, it's not why I have a phone. Gaming and browsing is mainly why I have a phone, there was literally ZERO incentive for me to keep the Note 10 + vs the Note 8. So thankfully, I found out the RoG 2 was not only available for purchase in China, but it was half the price... I returned the Note 10 + and purchased the RoG Phone 2.
Man am I glad I did. The screen is honestly about as beautiful as Samsung's. The only thing Samsung's have over the RoG is that colors are slightly more vibrant. If you've ever compared a flagship Apple phone to a Note or S series from Samsung, imagine the color vibrancy to be somewhere in the middle so it's quite acceptable. As far as crispness, because the pixels move so faster, it honestly looks more crisp, and that is without taking into account the Anti-Aliasing toggle option in Armory for gaming. No matter what you do on your phone there is one thing that you will NEVER escape from and it is looking at it, so I gambled on that one factor that rules over any other phone and I assure you, at least from my standpoint, I don't ever see a reason to go back. The CPU/GPU are so overkill in these devices and contrary to what the market was 5-6 years ago, devs now make sure to support as many devices as possible (which makes sense) so I'd expect the chips to be seriously viable for the next 3-4 years easy. That's not to say I'll wait that long to change, most likely not but yeah, this phone is absolute overkill when it comes to it's power.
And so many features that makes this phone a killer option, Air Triggers, side USB-C, FM radio, Glove mode (which nearly turns the screen resistive), easy macro'ing in games (killer feature if gaming), etc....
I'll say one last thing, after 5 different Galaxy phones back-to-back, I miss OneUI because I was so used to it but with all the customizability that Android offers, it's a no brainer that there is a workaround for nearly everything other than the S-Pen, a very little sacrifice vs. all the benefits.
I have over the years owned a few OP devices including the 6, 7 pro and 8 and usually compared to say the current flagship Samsung I have preferred almost everything about the Oneplus but a few things like wireless charging, no always on display and a camera that just fell slightly short saw me ultimately go with a Samsung (or Pixel)
With the 9 pro I think this has flipped around and this a year I prefer almost everything about the S21 Ultra I have over the 9 pro. The Samsung IMO looks better, feels nicer in the hand, feels quicker in daily use (a big reversal this) has a quicker and better placed FPS and has better overall battery. The 9 pro though has a better main camera in the circumstances I care about (less blurry photos or my kids and pets) and has APTX-HD which is 2 areas about Samsung that frustrate me.
So I think I prefer the OP9 Pro (just) but I am kind of missing the S21 Ultra too.
Are you sure there are no aptx HD with S21U? You can check in developer options
Samsung have only had standard APTX for a while now which is frustrating as I am not convinced by LDAC and mostly only Sony cans have LDAC anyway.
Switched yesterday from s21 ultra to op9 pro, really enjoyed Sammy but definitely i prefer Oneplus way better user experience! Also even if with Hex manager i used to be able to mod software seem more "stock like" can't feel well with One Ui.. i agree about battery that is better on S21 but here you have shocking fast charge so not a big deal for me. About camera i can't talk I'm not a good photographer and also don't take photos often... One thing that i like about Oneplus comprared to s21 is that 30grams less means so much difference in daily usage!
I think that overall the camera is better on the S21 Ultra but as a point and shoot Samsung’s always struggle with anything that moves even a little bit and I see no signs of them resolving this. I find the 9 pro better in this regard.
Hi all
I am confused between OnePlus 9 Pro and Samsung Galaxy S21+ (Exynos variant).
Please help me choose.
The S21 is costing me INR 2000 extra, but with the current offer running I am also getting a Samsung Active2 watch fro INR 990.
I would have chosen 9Pro, but I am concerned with the negative feedback about heating issues and camera quality not being up to the mark.
I would personally go against buying the s21+. While Exynos has come fairly far from its initial being, it is still no match for Snapdragon. Really if your only priorities include OneUI, slightly better overall cameras, and the existing ecosystem, there is no reason in buying the s21. Being a non-mainstream chip it would mean that updates can be sluggish, midway long-term support by Samsung, and not to forget how the chip is already plagued with inferior performance.
My wife has the S21 Exynos since launch day, I have the 9 Pro. Battery wise they're about the same. 9 Charges way quicker and come's with the charger.
I like the photos from the s21 a little bit more. But that's only when comparing them side to side. otherwise, it is just a good camera combo that takes good photos. (Just don't expect miracles because it says Hasselblad.
S21 has a flat screen which I really like. Tho the curve one the 9Pro is not that big.
The dealbreaker for Samsung is I just can't stand is OneUI....
So I'm really happy with my 9 Pro. Battery life is superb (coming from an OP3)
And I have no problems overheating. The phone only gets slightly warm when charging. (I don't play big games on it)
No heating issues here not even while charging. CPU-Z says my phone stays under 90° while charging. In my opinion the camera is excellent and I can't tell the difference between oneplus and s21. Battery life is good too I get 7 to 8 hours screen time so I'm happy with it.
Had same dilemma. I have chosen OP9 Pro and I am satisfied with it (especially I had exynos version of s21 being saled in my country). No overheating problems (only in diagnostic apps I am facing false positive). Battery life is ok (compared to my previous s10e on exynos it is amazing).
I see the camera is a step back from s10e, so if it is important to you you should pick Samsung.
I can't say about the S21+ but I had to do about the same choice like OP9Pro vs S21 Ultra Exynos and the fight could have been much harder if the S21 Ultra had the S888 in EU
I've had 3 generations of OnePlus for easy Unlocking, XDA & Developer support, etc. Definitely my preference. I really don't know much about the S20+
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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hi, i have switched from s21u(exy) and battery on p6 pro is amazing comparing to samsung(9h+ p6 pro / 6h s21u - same usage)(p6pro 42h/one charge / s21u/28h) . not only battery, i like the mini rounded corners of p6 pro, software is good enough(its new), will be better after fex fixes.
Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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yeah, right now best choice, i am selling my s21u
Thanks might get it ordered today and pass down the s21 ultra to the lad
After the Pixel 1 stopped getting updates two years ago, my wife and I finally upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB model, because for the first couple of years after the Pixel 1, I was waiting to buy another Pixel until they came out with a 256 GB model, and then by the time they did, I needed a 512 GB model so I still waited.
The Note 10+ hardware is great. I hate the software. I use my personal phone for my work too, my work uses Google for everything, and apparently, it's common with Samsung devices that they have sporadic syncing of GMail and Chat/Hangouts. When I told my brother about the problem I was having (and I did try deep-diving settings about not optimizing for battery usage, and not killing in the background, and even factory reset), my brother, who had only just bought his family their first smartphones maybe 4 years ago and go the Galaxy S9+, said that he assumed that's just the way Android is. It's not. I never encountered such bad GMail and chat syncing and notification behavior on any other phone.
For chat-type notifications, it was hit and miss whether I would receive timely ones. I could never narrow down what made the difference. For GMail, sometimes I wouldn't get a notification of an email until 45 minutes to even 2 hours later. Multi-tasking on the work computer, sometimes I wouldn't look at my GMail browser tab for long periods of time, and my boss likes to use chat quite often too. Half the time, I did happen to see the email in the browser tab, read it, and even deleted it (for non-critical things), and then later on my Samsung would let me know I have that "new" email. I already saw it and deleted it! Crazy.
There were other things Samsung gimped compared to other phones (Do Not Disturb...), and it also managed to duplicate all my contacts in a way that they're not recognized as duplicates so they can't be automatically de-duped.
Thankfully, back on the P6P 512 GB bandwagon, I no longer have those issues, and we quickly sold our Note 10+'s. So my answer is I'd trade any Samsung for a Pixel. Loved the Samsung hardware, but the software just doesn't cut it for me. The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
Oh yeah - I haven't had any issues with my battery life in the month I've had the phone. For the last five years, I never quick charge any phone, I only charge once the phone gets down to 25%, and I take the phone off the charger at 75%. I never charge overnight. The Pixel 6/Pro have Adaptive Charge to help battery life, but my 25-75% battery range lasts me 24 hours normally anyway. I don't own any quick chargers except my original Pixel 1 charger, and I don't use it.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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If multiple days of battery life is a bad thing, or the camera is too good for you.... you might want to stick with the samdung.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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I did the same thing, and battery is good after about a week or two. You have to give the adaptive battery time to learn your habits. Not sure where you heard the camera is bad. That's the best part of the phone.
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The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
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There are 10 billion options for capacitive screen pokey things on Amazon. I can't tell you which ones I have, because I can't read the font they used to identify themselves, but works pretty good.
Owning currently both devices here I can maybe share a few thoughts, subjective of course as many of those base on what I like/dislike:
Pro S21 Ultra:
+ build quality
+ display quality
+ overall maturity of the software
+ better standby drain
Pro Pixel 6 Pro:
+ genuine, clean Android with less bloat
+ snappier UI
+ active battery life
+ Camera: much lower noise and much better dynamic range in low light
+ Camera: less heavy-handed noise-reduction/resharpening
+ (slightly) less weight
+ much more development friendly (no hassle bootloader unlock without lost warranty, no Knox.....)
All in all I like both phones, what makes me moving back to the S21 Ultra (or maybe again Mi 11U) is memory - sadly Google only sells the P6P with max 256GB in Germany which I find a bit too small for my purpose.....
And a few more words on the camera: Samsung has its own way in image processing and in many cases this leads to loss of details in grass/leaves/.... which I dislike. The Pixel 6 Pro gives much better results here, as with many indoor shots specifically of pets/kids.... So overall I much prefer the Pixel camera, this doesn't mean the Samsung camera is bad, though - it isn't !
The only thing I like about my s21 ultra is the display screen. Other than that, 6 pro tops it off. (The 6 pro is on par with the iPhone 13 max's camera btw) With the exception of the video quality of course. The iPhone is still the king for shooting high quality videos.
I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I think a lot of what you're putting down as negatives against P6P comes down to gservices and broken "pixel features". I'm running pure (google free) AOSP on mine. I pulled it off the charger this morning at 5:30 (7.5 hours ago). Currently have 1.5 hr screen on time and the battery is at 92%, and so far the battery gauge appears to be pretty linear. I've also NOT noticed ANY substantial heating up. It runs pretty cool consistently -- note that heat comes from the battery, so it makes sense.
Also, there is no magic battery BS in AOSP.
I upgraded from a Note 20 Ultra 512Gb and the battery on my P6P is phenomenal compared to the Note 20. There have been issues for some on the P6P but I've been using my 512Gb unlocked variant with no issue at all. Just make sure you set your P6P from scratch and don't transfer data from your S21 Ultra. Also the standby drain is the best I've ever had, took it off the charger at 9PM at 100% and at 8:30 the next morning was at 99%. Not everyone is having the same results that I have.
I had both for a while. S21 ultra for the last 9 months. Tested them side by side . I don't think the pixel is better than the s21 in any single way, they are actually so similar. I prefer the maturer Samsung email and calendar software but that's subjective. The biggest difference, which matters for me was that the pixel has more global 5g and LTE bands than the s21. I used Nova and mimicked the s21 completely. Really couldn't tell the difference except screen better on s21 IMHO.
if I didn't already own the s21 I would have bought the pixel but because they are so similar and it isn't an upgrade but more a move to the side, the change didn't make sense.
Display, build quality, signal quality and probably smoothness are all better on the s21U. However I prefer the camera on the P6P and also Pixel Android to OneUI. The S21U is a solid, well built device and I don't think the P6P is an upgrade, if anything it's a slight downgrade.
Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
Stick with the S21 Ultra. I went from a Note 20 Ultra to the Pixel 6 Pro. I love the camera, the better speakers, cleaner software experience, but overall it doesn't feel like an upgrade. The 5G reception is slightly worse, Android 12 has lots of quirks, charging speeds are much slower, and customization is currently very limited. It's possible that it will improve with updates and custom ROMs but its current state is underwhelming. To be honest, I'm already looking forward to the S22 Ultra.
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Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
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Yep, no bad sides to rooting or later unrooting at all, just jump through some well established hoops as far as banking apps are concerned. It didn't bother me and it was the first time I ever did what I needed for safety net and banking apps to not know I'm rooted. No one can tell you ever had it rooted if you re-lock the bootloader after restoring to 100% stock and then factory reset, which will re-disable the OEM unlock option on Developer Options.
You just never can automatically update to each months OTA, have to follow the proper manual procedure to update and stay rooted. I did it every month for over three years that I had the Pixel 1.
If you value the camera, root and stock Android then get the Pixel. If you don't value those then stick with the S21U. I came from the S21U so I can honestly tell you that the S21U is definitely a better all around device but the fact that I can root really made my decision easier to go with the Pixel. No, the Pixel isn't any smoother than the S21U as I've had both; they are pretty much the same in the smoothness department. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves.