Hi all,
S20 Ultra here, have taken plenty of great shots with my camera, the quick updates since launch have fixed most issues people had at launch with the cameras but something that occasionally bugs me is a delay in capturing a photo after pressing the button, resulting in missing the shot.
Typical scenario - taking a photo of my kids , they move a lot so you dont have long to get a shot, I pull the the phone out, line up the shot and press the button and nothing, 1 second, maybe 2 and it takes the shot and its not the shot you wanted.
It certainly isnt all the time, sometimes the shot is pretty much instant, I am beginning to suspect its related to the auto focus, the phone doesn't focus quick enough or maybe doesn't think its focused (often it looks fine on screen) so wont take the shot quickly when you need it to.
Any ideas?
omarkhamas said:
Hi all,
S20 Ultra here, have taken plenty of great shots with my camera, the quick updates since launch have fixed most issues people had at launch with the cameras but something that occasionally bugs me is a delay in capturing a photo after pressing the button, resulting in missing the shot.
Typical scenario - taking a photo of my kids , they move a lot so you dont have long to get a shot, I pull the the phone out, line up the shot and press the button and nothing, 1 second, maybe 2 and it takes the shot and its not the shot you wanted.
It certainly isnt all the time, sometimes the shot is pretty much instant, I am beginning to suspect its related to the auto focus, the phone doesn't focus quick enough or maybe doesn't think its focused (often it looks fine on screen) so wont take the shot quickly when you need it to.
Any ideas?
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Yea it is the autofocus, gonna need to wait it out for updates, you can speed it up by disabling the AI like scene optimiser, HDR, shot suggestions, and any filters you have enabled from the top right icon above the view finder, mostly the selfie cam is having the worst issues with around a 5 second delay if there is a face in view at arms length, especially with a bright light behind you like a window
Jaysus!
I thought was just me. It's worst if you try to use the live focus. ¬¬
stygi4n said:
Jaysus!
I thought was just me. It's worst if you try to use the live focus. ¬¬
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It's been fixed in the July update, shoots immediately every time now
*Detection* said:
It's been fixed in the July update, shoots immediately every time now
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Very good news, thanx!
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the problem with the default x1 camera application:
-very big application with very slow startup time
-very slow interface
-require too many clicks to change the mode or the settings
now im not asking to make a full fledged camera application as that would take too much time. i am asking for a very simple and lightwaight camera application that can simply start right away into sports mode with infinite focus and flash as this seems like the quickest and most practical
shooting mode on our X1. or simply start to the last used mode in the SE camera app
i just want to have a very quick way to to take good pics.
on my old 2003 magican it takes me only 2-3 seconds to quickly start the application and take the first pic. on the xperia it takes no less the a ridicoulus 7 seconds because of the camera application.
i find the rhodium's camera to be quick and good quality.. but when there is light sometime could get overexposed lock until u take another pic.. but definitely heaps faster than SE camera.. drawback also is u cant use the camera button to use rhodium..
maybe someone can do a quick one by porting one of the old apps like the ones that come with the htc wizard/magican. these cameras apps are very small and they startup in a second
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!
For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
michaelthemage said:
Actually I think if one want a 'simple' camera, get a 'simple phone'!
For me, I would like a camera that WORKS 100%! So whatever the features, as long as they work fast and correct, that is what I want!
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you are TOTALLY missing the point. what i am proposing is in not to replace the camera but to have an additional one that can start and take a good pic in about 2 seconds instead of about 7 seconds right now
this would greatly increase the practicality and usefulness of the camera
Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!
Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
I'm with the GRIZZ. 5 seconds often makes all the difference, especially when you have bought a phone specifically so that you can have a decent camera on you at all times.
A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
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A lightweight camera app would be fantastic but I suspect it would take some pretty fancy programming to make work.
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im not sure about that our xperia runs the 'HD or rhodium cameras fine. also the very old imate kjam runs the relativly new touch viva camera on some of the new cooked roms.
how hard can it be to to simply port a very small and old camera application like the one that comes with the magican or wizard.
defenatly worth a try but unfortunatly im no good at programing or even hacking. anybody willing to give this a shot?
michaelthemage said:
Aha.... you want a 2nd(!) camera because of a 5 second difference....!
Well, as for me, I want a camera that works and records without pixelation, etc. as the current one does!
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why are you expecting it to be pixely or blury. its using the same hardware at as the SE camera application the end of the day. if the app boots to the sport mode with infinite focus (the faststest and best mode SE camera does anyway)it should be able to take very good pics. infact you will be able to take better pics because you will now be able to take 3 pics in the same time that normally takes you 1 picture with the default camera
of course the ultimite solution is for sony to make a much faster camera but i wouldnt hold my breath for that. their newer camera application with gps and autoflash is even slower than the original application which was also slow
i say we make a proof of concept first before we judge the practicality of this.
I totally agree on the importance of speed on phone camera's. The main reason to have one on a phone is to take swift pictures on the fly when you don't have a digital camera at hand but want to capture the moment.
In my humble opinion, if you want super quality pictures, get a digital camera, thats what they're for. On a phone i prefer speed rather than quality. (not saying Xperia doesnt take decent pictures (; )
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
derliebewolf said:
In new custom ROMs (as in mine, check sig) the cam takes only 2secs to start and focus is very fast! I don't know how the R3A Cam behaves if used as cab...but cooked in it is very fast!!
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2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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i copied and pasted the rs camera folder over the old one and put it on auto focus and auto flash and it seems a lot faster, maybe not 2 secs fast but faster than the old software
THE GRIZZ said:
2 seconds to get a picture taken is more than what i am asking for. and if the default focus is set to infinite it should take even less (or even no) time for focus
currnty its taking me about 7 seconds to be able to take a picture on Udk's rom
ill go and test your rom
thanks
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Let us know what you find.
Otherwise, shouldn't there be a cab floating around from one of the simpler HTC camera apps? Why not just try one of those?
Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
ring-bearer said:
Someone could also experiment with Speedbooster 2 and assign the camera to top priority. I would but I don't have it.
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Yes, I think that would work.
You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.
The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.
Cab here.
How-to-do-it Video demo here.
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Yes, I think that would work.
You only need to improve the speed of camera.exe or the name of the camera process, and it should go faster.
The good thing is that the trial version allows you to control one task, so this is exactly what you need.
Cab here.
How-to-do-it Video demo here.
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Doesn't work on my device... not sure why. It loaded the 1st time but then never again, even after reinstalls. Strange...
flash one of itjes roms...
they contain the htc topaz/rhodium camera...
it takes pictures instantly and is the same quality as the stock camera
i flashed so many roms and while the speed of the startup and taking the first picture is not too bad, its still much slower than what can be achived if it was a simpler & lighter application.
the fastest i managed to get was about 5 seconds on the rohdium camera
And how fast would that be if you increase the .exe process of the camera to maximum priority?
I'm using a diamond and I'm happy with the default camera speed.
Ok, I'm having a hit or miss problem with the camera. I have fresh 3.1, btw.
I'll try to take a picture of something, for example, I have a rubix cube here. keeping the camera about 8" away from the cube, trying to get a picture of the word "Rubix". I tap the button to take a picture. the camera goes in and out of focus, it focuses the word "Rubix" perfectly, then goes out of focus and snaps the picture. I've tried tapping the screen to focus on the specific area, and it still does it. I've tried holding the button down until the picture takes, but it still goes in and out of focus, then snaps a blurry pic, or at least the area I want focused is blurry. Another issue with the flash... When the flash goes off, the camera will focus in and out on the object, and usually hold until the flashed area is focused and not washed out. But the camera just snaps the picture without focusing.
Like I said, both problems come and go. Any ideas?
I've searched and I still don't see any answers. Anyone?
The camera on the phone is pretty bad IMO. Typical results.
supdawg said:
The camera on the phone is pretty bad IMO. Typical results.
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Yeah what he said. It's almost like some htc exec said on the day before launch, "you guys did put a camera on this thing right?" And some hung over strung out engineer was like "um.."
Did you try changing the settings to Macro for close up shots?
nbajwill55 said:
Did you try changing the settings to Macro for close up shots?
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Im pretty sure there isnt a macro setting.
jasongthang said:
Ok, I'm having a hit or miss problem with the camera. I have fresh 3.1, btw.
I'll try to take a picture of something, for example, I have a rubix cube here. keeping the camera about 8" away from the cube, trying to get a picture of the word "Rubix". I tap the button to take a picture. the camera goes in and out of focus, it focuses the word "Rubix" perfectly, then goes out of focus and snaps the picture. I've tried tapping the screen to focus on the specific area, and it still does it. I've tried holding the button down until the picture takes, but it still goes in and out of focus, then snaps a blurry pic, or at least the area I want focused is blurry. Another issue with the flash... When the flash goes off, the camera will focus in and out on the object, and usually hold until the flashed area is focused and not washed out. But the camera just snaps the picture without focusing.
Like I said, both problems come and go. Any ideas?
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Indeed Jason, indeed.
The TTF utility is very hit and miss. As is the entire camera functionality.
See here for more interest on this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782211
Sent from my Fresh 3.4 Evo (2nd refurbished unit) with major light leakage, crappy camera, and lag switch enabled.
The camera focusing algorithm appears to be flawed.
It will take someone to completely rewrite the camera app code to make this right with the evo camera.
It's clear to me that the AOSP camera code doesn't work well with the Evo camera. And unfortunately, HTC chose not to use a new code, but rather use the default Froyo code with this new piece of hardware.
Until someone takes the time to write the proper code for focusing the Evo camera, you are stuck with trying to manually focus the camera, multiple times, until the good looking focus is achieved.
It takes me good 5-10 times to manually focus the camera until a good sharp image is seen...
Is there any possebility? It drives me crazy when you try to take a picture of a friend and yourself!
I searched a whole lot, but this "Big Button Camera" App that is out there replaces the normal camera and its not free.
If there would be an App that lays the Shutter on volume Down or Up during camera mode, that would be great! I can zoom (if I need it) on screen...
what did HTC think?
Self-portrait
Dino Crisis said:
Is there any possebility? It drives me crazy when you try to take a picture of a friend and yourself!
I searched a whole lot, but this "Big Button Camera" App that is out there replaces the normal camera and its not free.
If there would be an App that lays the Shutter on volume Down or Up during camera mode, that would be great! I can zoom (if I need it) on screen...
what did HTC think?
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For making pictures of yourself you can use the self-portrait function. The phone then sees your face in the frame and takes a picture. Works quite good.
bosbode said:
For making pictures of yourself you can use the self-portrait function. The phone then sees your face in the frame and takes a picture. Works quite good.
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Yep ... it's awesome.
Face recognition doesn't always work for me.
Another alternative is to set a delay on the photo. Gives you time to position the camera before the picture is taken. Not sure why HTC have only given two options - 2 secs and 10 secs - though...
Try this works very well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850464&highlight=desire
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Face recognition doesn't always work for me.
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This. Just tried to use self-portrait after reading this post and ... nothing
plz help how can i take a picture from volume bottem
I've noticed if you snap a photo with LG Camera app and immediately press the back button or switch off the screen, the photograph is not going to be saved and you will loose it. You really need to wait until you see a preview of it in a circle on the right side.
And that time can be up to 2-3 seconds, which is really annoying.
Native google camera doesn't have this bug.
Has anyone else experienced such behavior?
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I've noticed if you snap a photo with LG Camera app and immediately press the back button or switch off the screen, the photograph is not going to be saved and you will loose it. You really need to wait until you see a preview of it in a circle on the right side.
And that time can be up to 2-3 seconds, which is really annoying.
Native google camera doesn't have this bug.
Has anyone else experienced such behavior?
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No problem here...... Just tried it.
If I snap and immediately press the back button it quits the camera app but if I go back into the app the thumbnail of the shot is there.
So no, my G3 takes the shot and saves immediately.
Beards said:
No problem here...... Just tried it.
If I snap and immediately press the back button it quits the camera app but if I go back into the app the thumbnail of the shot is there.
So no, my G3 takes the shot and saves immediately.
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Can you try to enable HDR mode on and do it once again ?
jodvova said:
Can you try to enable HDR mode on and do it once again ?
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That's why it takes a while.. HDRs don't render instantly and need some time to process. The reason it doesn't save when you back out is because it's still taking pictures.
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That's why it takes a while.. HDRs don't render instantly and need some time to process. The reason it doesn't save when you back out is because it's still taking pictures.
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So, I understand that, but why does it need to discard the photo if I close it too fast ? Can't it just schedule the processing in the background like Google camera does ?
With Google camera if it is in HDR mode and I switch off the screen immediately after taking a picture, the photo will still be saved.
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So, I understand that, but why does it need to discard the photo if I close it too fast ? Can't it just schedule the processing in the background like Google camera does ?
With Google camera if it is in HDR mode and I switch off the screen immediately after taking a picture, the photo will still be saved.
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I believe it's because the way HDR works is it takes multiple pictures at different exposures and puts them together so maybe the lg camera takes the pictures more slowly and you're quitting it while the shutter is still open?
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So, I understand that, but why does it need to discard the photo if I close it too fast ? Can't it just schedule the processing in the background like Google camera does ?
With Google camera if it is in HDR mode and I switch off the screen immediately after taking a picture, the photo will still be saved.
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What is the point of quitting camera app immediately after making a shot? I think you probably want something that is nonexistent. Shoot with your Google camera if you in so desperate need to quit camera app after each shot. What else to advice
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What is the point of quitting camera app immediately after making a shot? I think you probably want something that is nonexistent. Shoot with your Google camera if you in so desperate need to quit camera app after each shot. What else to advice
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Well, imagine this, you're taking a photo and suddenly got an email. Right after the picture is taken you switch to email app and the photo gets lost.
jodvova said:
Well, imagine this, you're taking a photo and suddenly got an email. Right after the picture is taken you switch to email app and the photo gets lost.
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Imagine waiting 3 seconds to read the email...
All kidding aside, I have not had this happen, but also have not tried to make it happen.
You guys saying a god damn NONSENSE.
I believe most of you have upgraded from inferior phones to G3, just because it has top-notch technical specs.
Now you're saying that I have to just idle 3 seconds after taking HDR photo.
This is a god damn NONSENSE.
jodvova said:
You guys saying a god damn NONSENSE.
I believe most of you have upgraded from inferior phones to G3, just because it has top-notch technical specs.
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I believe they did. I'm fine with my G2
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Now you're saying that I have to just idle 3 seconds after taking HDR photo.
This is a god damn NONSENSE.
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NONSENCE is your BS, that you talking about. All other phones are unresponsive while taking HDR pictures. Because of simple fact that taking HDR requires he11 of lot of postprocessing. So why talk NONSENSE and demand G3 to make it instantly?
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You guys saying a god damn NONSENSE.
I believe most of you have upgraded from inferior phones to G3, just because it has top-notch technical specs.
Now you're saying that I have to just idle 3 seconds after taking HDR photo.
This is a god damn NONSENSE.
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Okee first off your comment is rude and disrispectful, secondly if you don't want your photo's getting deleted deselect hdr, wait 2-3 seconds or contact LG/stock based rom developer to enable processing in the backround for hdr photos
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I believe they did. I'm fine with my G2NONSENCE is your BS, that you talking about. All other phones are unresponsive while taking HDR pictures. Because of simple fact that taking HDR requires he11 of lot of postprocessing. So why talk NONSENSE and demand G3 to make it instantly?
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As I said before, a google camera app doesn't have this problem. It produces hdr fine, even if you close the app immediately.
Obviously you gonna ask why am I not using it. I find that lg camera produces better results in HDR mode.
I usually don't reply to semi trolly post but I just took an HDR and instantly hit the back button and it doesn't save. (Of course) but I did the same thing and waited MAYBE a second maybe less and the photo finished processing and saved even though I backed out.
@op does the phone close when you take a picture or are you just intentionally hiring the back button that quickly on purpose? I literally had to try to NOT take a picture to keep it from processing. In just curious why someone would back out of taking a picture each time so fast. Well an HDR anyway
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I find that lg camera produces better results in HDR mode.
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And why do you think that is?
jodvova said:
Obviously you gonna ask why am I not using it. I find that lg camera produces better results in HDR mode.
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I presume that LG camera made that behaviour intended, programmers decided that if back or home buttons pressed immediately after pic is shot then use decided not to save picture so camera stops processing completely and doesn't save photo on memory. I think it is not problem it is a feature.
jodvova said:
You guys saying a god damn NONSENSE.
I believe most of you have upgraded from inferior phones to G3, just because it has top-notch technical specs.
Now you're saying that I have to just idle 3 seconds after taking HDR photo.
This is a god damn NONSENSE.
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1. I do not talk nonsense especially when photography is the subject.
2. My previous phone was a Z2 which I would hardly call inferior.
3. If you wish to take a non standard photo then you also have to allow the processor time to complete it's action. As such 3 seconds (which by the way it is nothing like this on my G3) is adequate.
4. What gives you the right to insult any user. All that was given to you was an example of a waiting period prior to doing something else. In no way did that give you the right to be offensive.
return your phone and get a nexus
jodvova said:
You guys saying a god damn NONSENSE.
I believe most of you have upgraded from inferior phones to G3, just because it has top-notch technical specs.
Now you're saying that I have to just idle 3 seconds after taking HDR photo.
This is a god damn NONSENSE.
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Ugh, you mean I have to wait an entire two seconds so the photo can process??? What is this? The 1800s?!?!
Every time i take a picture. Its very fast. But i have to wait a second before i can take another one. A very noticeable delay.
Yet in this new video by danny winget (awesome youtuber) he shows at 8:52 into the video he can take picture after picture with zero delay :S how the hell has he done it?
Anyone else have similar issue?
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Every time i take a picture. Its very fast. But i have to wait a second before i can take another one. A very noticeable delay.
Yet in this new video by danny winget (awesome youtuber) he shows at 8:52 into the video he can take picture after picture with zero delay :S how the hell has he done it?
Anyone else have similar issue?
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Try turning off HDR, if you have not already done so.
dex. said:
Try turning off HDR, if you have not already done so.
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I have already done so no faster
Hold shutter, it is fast
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Hold shutter, it is fast
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I know but that's not the point with burst mode there is more noise is the picture.
The point is this review I posted looks like it can take picture after picture no delay, yet i always have a delay between each picture.
my bad forgot to show the video I am on about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0ZOuKBZgZU&list=UUGq7ov9-Xk9fkeQjeeXElkQ
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The point is this review I posted looks like it can take picture after picture no delay, yet i always have a delay between each picture.
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In situations with plenty of light (and with HDR off and same stationary focal point) I can also take subsequent images at the same speed as on the shown video.
If the camera needs to refocus (objects moves around or you moved the camera) or when there is less light the speed, naturally, is much slower.
Are you using phone memory or SD card? That would make difference.
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Are you using phone memory or SD card? That would make difference.
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Also when writing to SD (my card isn't especially fast) there is no problem making photos in quick succession