S20 Plus 5G CPU - Samsung Galaxy S20 / S20+ / S20 Ultra Questions &

The S20 Plus 5G also has different CPUs depending of the region, or because it is 5G it's only a snapdragon?

My French S20+ 5G is an Exynos.
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Nuno Raimundo said:
The S20 Plus 5G also has different CPUs depending of the region, or because it is 5G it's only a snapdragon?
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Nope it does not, I think it's country related

My Ultra 5G is Exynos

My S20+ 5g is Snapdragon 865, from UK.
Samsung was out of stock with SD 865 procesors & then put Exynos in phones. With Note 10 line and now with S series. Of course not to loose money!

You get a snapdragon primarily if your country requires CDMA support I believe. Otherwise Samsung will cheap out and use the exynos.

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5G or no 5G is the question on Note 10+

Greetings all,
I have a TMO Note 10+ and got it when they came out. My question is does my phone support 5G? I would hope so since I bought it when it was released. The model number is SM-N975U. I just got the upgrade (last night) to UI2 and Android 10, however I have no idea if this upgraded my phone to 5G. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
BH
Not entirely sure how it works over there but the Note10+ with 5G over here in the UK is SM-N976B and is specifically called "Galaxy Note10+ 5G" in About phone.
Edit: SM-N975U is not a 5G device but again not sure exactly how it works in the US with differing standards of 5G.
No unfortunately, 5G requires newer modern and thus there's a newest version of Note 10+ that's called Note 10+ 5G that you need to buy directly from T-mobile
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No yet!
chargedbird said:
Greetings all,
I have a TMO Note 10+ and got it when they came out. My question is does my phone support 5G? I would hope so since I bought it when it was released. The model number is SM-N975U. I just got the upgrade (last night) to UI2 and Android 10, however I have no idea if this upgraded my phone to 5G. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
BH
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Wish it did (bought mine soon after it came out), but the Note 10+ (the SM-N975U) we have doesn't have the 5G hardware in it.
unless you specifically bought the 5G variant there is no way to get it as it is different hardware. it's the same reason in the UK the 4G model is dual SIM while the 5G is a single SIM as the 5G model includes a single 5G modem while the 4G model caries 2 of the much cheaper 4G modems.
it's why I made sure when I purchased to phone at launch to get the 5G variant as there is no software way to upgrade from 4G to 5G, the 5G variant could get on 5G from the day of launch the problem was finding a supplier and a mast that actually supported 5G, but the last couple of months at least in the UK coverage has improved and seems to be accelerating with more firms and towers expected to make announcements January.
The 5G Variant of the Note Plus is N976U - and from what I can see, the specs are the same as on the Note 10 Plus with the exception of the 5G capability.
Something interesting - I ran antutu benchmarks on a N975U (highest score was 475,000) and a N976U (highest score was 496,000) and I am curious why there was such a big score difference between the two phones - they are nearly identical in specs. Shouldn't their scores be closer?
The only other difference I can see is that the N975U was built in Vietnam and the N976U was built in Korea.
N976b my model 5g version from ee uk have android 10 also phone was built in korea
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Sorry Vietnam phone was made 17.9.2019 was made
If you wanted the 5g version of the phone you should have purchased the 5g version. They have been pretty clearly marked when you purchase them. Perhaps you can exchange your 4g for 5g if you are still within your return window.
855+
Geekser said:
The 5G Variant of the Note Plus is N976U - and from what I can see, the specs are the same as on the Note 10 Plus with the exception of the 5G capability.
Something interesting - I ran antutu benchmarks on a N975U (highest score was 475,000) and a N976U (highest score was 496,000) and I am curious why there was such a big score difference between the two phones - they are nearly identical in specs. Shouldn't their scores be closer?
The only other difference I can see is that the N975U was built in Vietnam and the N976U was built in Korea.
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The N976U for AT&T and T-mobile has the SD855+ that’s why the scores are higher than the non 5g note..
Actually no, Note 10 5G T-mobile has a regular 855 and not 855+
One plus McLaren has 855+
EDIT: It does have 855+ as pointed out below by @billyblonco2
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
billyblonco2 said:
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
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I stand corrected, thanks. On the spec page on T-mobile's site, it lists the processor as SM8150(SKU for regular 855) and not SM8150-AC which is the SKU for 855+ which made me think it has 855. MKBHD guy also thought One plus came with faster processor. https://youtu.be/nmnTAOU44SI?t=94
billyblonco2 said:
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
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While it is hard to disprove when you apparently have evidence in your hand, I cannot see a single other place on the internet that references the Note 10+ 5G getting the 855+.
It would be interesting to see what's on the hardware tab in the Samsung phone info app.
Edit: Nice man, that's quite the device. Best SOC in the best handset.
Qualcomm didn't waste time differentiating overclocked hardware names on the chips. Even other 855+ phones don't say 855+ in cpu and hardware apps.
Samsung and the carriers don't want to upset people who bought the non 5g and advertise the 5g versions have overclocked chipsets .
I'm sure there's a good reason they didn't call it the 855+ but I'm doubtful it's so other customers aren't upset.

5G???

Does all the S20 series devices support 5G or anyone device will have the 5G support??
The Galaxy S20 Ultra is reported to be a 5G device. No mention yet if the lower priced models will offer 5G.
ArunRocker said:
Does all the S20 series devices support 5G or anyone device will have the 5G support??
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I don't think that every S20 series device will support 5G but any one or two models may have the 5G support.
Patent filings indicate that there will be 4G and 5G models of all three devices. 4G models will be sold only in countries with no immediate 5G infrastructure plans, however.
ArunRocker said:
Does all the S20 series devices support 5G or anyone device will have the 5G support??
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you just need to pay more for the 5G model
I hope there is a software switch that will allow us to turn 5G off for those of us who do not live in a 5G coverage area. Not all of us live in major metropolitan areas.
galaxy S20
G980 : 4G
G981: 5G
galaxy S20+:
G985:4G
G986: 5G
galaxy ultra:
G988 5G
Samsung galaxy S20 ultra and S20+ has a separate version of 5G right?

S20 5G SM-G981B/DS Does it support mmWave?

Samsung technical expert on chat said yes,
the modem the phone has seems to indicate it does (unless samsung disable something on the S20 5G specifically to limit it to Sub6 bands only),
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
this webite seems to say no (no mmWave bands listed),
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f3e652f5
to add to my confusion the verison S20 5G originally didn't support mmWave until they released the S20 5G UW
I'm in the UK on EE. I just would like to know if the phone can or can't receive mmWave if it was transmitted to it?
Lothandyr said:
Samsung technical expert on chat said yes,
the modem the phone has seems to indicate it does (unless samsung disable something on the S20 5G specifically to limit it to Sub6 bands only),
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
this webite seems to say no (no mmWave bands listed),
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f3e652f5
to add to my confusion the verison S20 5G originally didn't support mmWave until they released the S20 5G UW
I'm in the UK on EE. I just would like to know if the phone can or can't receive mmWave if it was transmitted to it?
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I think you're out of luck if you didn't purchase the 5G UW. There is no modem technology currently available that can leverage 5G signals in the sub-6 GHz spectrum and 5G signals in the mmWave spectrum at the same time. You can only get one or the other.
Lothandyr said:
Samsung technical expert on chat said yes,
the modem the phone has seems to indicate it does (unless samsung disable something on the S20 5G specifically to limit it to Sub6 bands only),
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/exynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5123/
this webite seems to say no (no mmWave bands listed),
https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f3e652f5
to add to my confusion the verison S20 5G originally didn't support mmWave until they released the S20 5G UW
I'm in the UK on EE. I just would like to know if the phone can or can't receive mmWave if it was transmitted to it?
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S20 5G does not support mmWave, chart of supported devices here
https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-confusing-1084755/
*Detection* said:
S20 5G does not support mmWave, chart of supported devices here
https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-confusing-1084755/
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Not so, Verizon released 5G mmWave for the S20, Plus and Ultra devices on June 4th. They're labeled as S20 5G UW Models, other carriers to follow. A couple of drawbacks for the S20 Base Model, you're limited to 8GB of RAM and no MicroSD.
https://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s20-5g-uw-less-ram-no-expandable-storage/amp/

Is it possible to enable 5G on the LTE S20 Ultra?

S20 and s20+ LTE models don't have the 5G bands in them so its impossible to get 5G on those, but however, All the s20 ultras, 5G or LTE have the 5G bands, but its disabled via software on the LTE one, is it possible to enable 5G somehow on them?
Yes they may have the bands, but I'm pretty sure that they are missing the physical antennas required for 5g to work
AhmedMomen said:
S20 and s20+ LTE models don't have the 5G bands in them so its impossible to get 5G on those, but however, All the s20 ultras, 5G or LTE have the 5G bands, but its disabled via software on the LTE one, is it possible to enable 5G somehow on them?
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The Snapdragon x50 modem is separate from the SD 865 SOC so even though it might appear on the software the phisical component is not present.
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The Snapdragon x50 modem is separate from the SD 865 SOC so even though it might appear on the software the phisical component is not present.
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Does the same go for the exynos model?
Cause thats the one i have, i think i heard somewhere that the LTE s20 ultra has the bands and the phyisical components required but its disabled via software in LTE countries.
AhmedMomen said:
Does the same go for the exynos model?
Cause thats the one i have, i think i heard somewhere that the LTE s20 ultra has the bands and the phyisical components required but its disabled via software in LTE countries.
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The Exynos modem 5123 is also a separate module so the same should apply.
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I purchased s20 ultra in India. I thought this a 5g phone but it shows only LTE. Paying so much money for a 4g phone is a big blow for anyone but I think that our xda develpers can enable the 5g in s20 ultra. Please do something to make it work on 5g network.

Question Is S22 GPS dual band capable?

Hi!
Samsung Galaxy S22 (exynos) has dual band gps support?
GpsTest doesn't show me L5 signal.
I have poor signal, worst than my last OnePlus 8T.
Thank you!
The S22U (exy) has dual band support, the S22 has the same SOC, therefore I would expect it to receive L5. Btw. the Note 10 and S20 exy versions also have dual band support, so it would be strange if Samsung had removed it only on the S22.
Capture with S22 exynos and my Oneplus 8T… Maybe S22 has not able the feature and it’s enabled on S22 ultra?
Have you figured out anything?
Really no dual band?
Breakler said:
there is GPS problem with S22 (exynos) verison but not for S8 Gen 1 version
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What kind of problem do you mean? A standard user would not recognize if dual band works or not.
ZXR said:
The S22U (exy) has dual band support, the S22 has the same SOC, therefore I would expect it to receive L5. Btw. the Note 10 and S20 exy versions also have dual band support, so it would be strange if Samsung had removed it only on the S22.
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on s22 regular snapdragon, do not see L5 as well
Hm, if Exy and SD are affected, then maybe a hardware antenna for the 2nd frequency is missing?
My S22 Plus (EU version SM-S906B/DS) has L1/L5 as far as I can tell. I noticed in the GPS status app before as it counts the dual band double per satellite (so 2x visibile satellites). I installed the latest Android 13.0/5.0 update before running GPSTest, but I think it already was working like this before.
Sincerely,
Wim
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My S22 Plus (EU version SM-S906B/DS) has L1/L5 as far as I can tell.
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It looks like only the S22 has no dual band. The Plus and Ultra have.
And carrier phase is only supported by the Exynos models and not by the Snapdragon ones.

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