for those who don't know yet:
http://www.sony.co.uk/discussions/community/en/community/ifa_2012/news
EDIT: -i can see that the green liquid logo still exists in XPERIA T but not in XPERIA V nor XPERIA J. all these three phones have curve in their back plate just like XPERIA ARC
-new WALKMAN, ALBUM, and MOVIE apps look even better than the current ones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ork4bbC85E&feature=context-gfa
XPERIA T 3D view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neYbEJfZvaY&feature=g-u-u
XPERIA V 3D view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pxc_G3Tkks&feature=g-u-u
XPERIA J 3D view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs5p4r7J4sI&feature=g-u-u
0000alex0000 said:
for those who don't know yet:
http://www.sony.co.uk/discussions/community/en/community/ifa_2012/news
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Watching now, at work. haha. thanks
M getting the v
The sale of the Xperia T in Europe in a few weeks left the Xperia ION in a very compromised situation in the market.
Yeah the ion is a waste of an upgrade, especially now. Had it been released back in January or even a few months after, then the ion would have been popular. Sony f'd up but that's in largely thanks to att. Then again, things like the wifi signal and the battery life, the ion feels like a step back even compared to my x10.
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Auggy99 said:
Yeah the ion is a waste of an upgrade, especially now. Had it been released back in January or even a few months after, then the ion would have been popular. Sony f'd up but that's in largely thanks to att. Then again, things like the wifi signal and the battery life, the ion feels like a step back even compared to my x10.
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ION was the real flagship before arrival of Xperia T. It's a shame that Sony did not launch for months, along with xperia s. Now who will buy the Xperia ION, having better options in the market?
It was perfect if you ask me, killer phone with killer specs for free..... Thank you ATT, Sony and anyone else that was responsible.
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It enables you to put on standard Sony software on a Sony Xperia smartphone which has the boot loader unlocked.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...ocked-xperia-smartphones-video-beta-download/
For now it supports Xperia™ S, Xperia™ arc and Xperia™ arc S, but we plan to add support for more models going forward. At the moment, one software version is available for each supported phone, but our ambition is to offer a selection of software versions released for each phone. For example, this could mean that you can choose between GB and ICS releases.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PKSyZ2amVNY
this message is a good nows indeed ,maybe now dev use this to restore drm keys or BE .good work Sony
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Fantastic! Sony is doing good work here. I'm happy I choose an Xperia device.
We have at least three such threads.
Closed.
Hi, I have two options for a new phone
Used xperia S around 14000 INR
new Xperia L around 17000INR
I use Ray and I think low PPI screen of L wouldn't suit me (ray has 297ppi) but I also think L is a bit beer in performance.
Does HD games still work well on S? any lags on MIUI v5? (It's the most heavy ROM ATM, right?)
Which one should I get?
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If I were to choose between those two smartphones, I'd choose Xperia S because I have it and I really love it !
http://geekaphone.com/compare/Sony-Xperia-L-vs-Sony-Xperia-S
Honestly Xperia S
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none of them...
vitorugo-8 said:
none of them...
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Xperia S is an old device, newest games are working on our device, but not on the highest framerate and every effects. Plus probably we won't see any more updates from sony.
Xperia L is not a good choice either, I suggest you start looking for other phones
I'd gather a little but more of money and get another better option instead of any of those two. Can be an Xperia, but a newer one.
Hey guys. Did you see Sony's details about KitKat? They said they were only mentioning the first few phones to get KitKat but do you think we'll get it in the new year? I remember past Sony updates did happen Dec-Feb.
http://www.sonyrumors.net/2013/11/06/kitkat-xperia-devices-features/
Sony News - On Jelly Bean 4.3 & Kit Kat 4.4…
If the Sony XPERIA M/Dual was to be upgraded to Android v4.4 [on paper] we'd have a very efficient phone.
Android v4.3 and Android v4.4 are about refining the existing implementation of Android.
It's just the number of little things like Miracast certification, OpenGL ES 3.0, optimised 2D rendering, memory optimisation and etc, that would make an already very competent phone a true delight to own.
I for one will be very interested to read where Sony decides to slot the XPERIA M regarding future Android OS updates, as Android v4.4 is really tailor make for such a device (as I read it)
The XPERIA L, XPERIA M and XPERIA C are all very conspicuous in their absence of any mention, regarded future Android upgrades.
There only problem for the big manufacturers is that revamping low-mid range phones with a streamlined version of android means they sell less because people change less often as their device that was on the way out now functions better than it did new.
I'm not really taking about the xperia M as this is still very new but I wouldn't be surprised if Sony only updated this years phones to 4.4. Tbh anything older probably has more dev work anyway so experienced users will get it via a ton instead of a don't release. Unfortunately we're probably low priority for Sony to update soon (all the flagships will come first) being a mid-low end phone and we also don't have substantial ROM support yet either to get it via CM or AOSP or Slimroms right now. It'll be interesting how it plays out and what we get when.
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As for the M not being mentioned, they did say that it is just the first wave of devices, not the last. For any of us that owned Xperia phones in the last few years, you will have seen that the more expensive devices tend to go first, it's not unusual.
Besides the M and Dual, there is the L and C. I would be stunned if these devices get left on 4.1-4.3. I'd be happy with KitKat. :victory:
looks like it will take long time for xperia m, first wave of xperia phone its for z series (from now on).. maybe next years we will get that feature and the only we can do now is just waiting
I think no one will you Stock when CM or AOSP arrives. So dont fuss on sony and dont make this discussion long.
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My friend got the Xperia Z months ago. I asked him did he have any custom ROMs. He said no and I asked why. He said that everything works great on his phone on stock firmware.
I've owned Xperia phones from every year. Every year I used custom ROMs. Until this year, that is. With the stock firmware on this phone, I have no desire to try custom ROMs. Now I understand what my friend meant.
Some of us like stock firmware. Plus, it's a bonus that you know you can send your phone for official repair and they won't reject it because you modified the phone.
I feel same for my xperia M not in the mood of customizing it yet
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My friend got the Xperia Z months ago. I asked him did he have any custom ROMs. He said no and I asked why. He said that everything works great on his phone on stock firmware.
I've owned Xperia phones from every year. Every year I used custom ROMs. Until this year, that is. With the stock firmware on this phone, I have no desire to try custom ROMs. Now I understand what my friend meant.
Some of us like stock firmware. Plus, it's a bonus that you know you can send your phone for official repair and they won't reject it because you modified the phone.
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I think you are missing one crucial point. That price difference between Z and M. The update support Z gets as compare to M is huge. Thats why custom roms are made. So if you want regular update get Z.
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No news, could still be good news.
Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
Extending Internal Memory on Xperia M dual
Guys, i need to extend my internal Memory in Sony Xperia M dual without rooting...Is there any possibilities there in order to play huge size games and also to store more apps on my SD card...
shanraviappu said:
Guys, i need to extend my internal Memory in Sony Xperia M dual without rooting...Is there any possibilities there in order to play huge size games and also to store more apps on my SD card...
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no...
y dontt u root the phone?
its easy to unroot[the warranty will not be void]
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Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
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I(not an informed rep) note the XPERIA M is the only Android device using the MSM8227 SoC that I can find... Oh dear.
Maybe Qualcomm will just bin any Android upgrade support, if it requires to much effort for so few Android devices..
This could mean the Sony XPERIA M may be one of the few phones not to advance beyond the Android version it was released on.
This is just something to think about as I'm NOT an engineer and so don't go running off waving your hands about screaming the sky is falling... it's just my observation and something to consider.
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You're just summoning another ****storm on the forums.
This post is inaccurate, to say at least, in its entirety, as the M model IS IN FACT getting Android 4.3 in the first quarter of 2014.
ToastnButter said:
You're just summoning another ****storm on the forums.
This post is inaccurate, to say at least, in its entirety, as the M model IS IN FACT getting Android 4.3 in the first quarter of 2014.
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? who said this? how do u know about update?
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? who said this? how do u know about update?
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I saw it on here.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...d-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821.shtml
But according to this Xperia L should of recieved its 4.3 update or may be getting it soon (before 2014), but Sony's Official post never mentioned any update for the Xperia L.
MahaDEVELOPER said:
I saw it on here.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...d-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821.shtml
But according to this Xperia L should of recieved its 4.3 update or may be getting it soon (before 2014), but Sony's Official post never mentioned any update for the Xperia L.
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DONT BELIEVE SOME SITES INFO...its the proven fake image..
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...-4-3-for-Xperia-M-T-E-Dual-More-392821-2.jpg/
see the full image...
it shows the xperia sp no update lol....
it will get 4.3 and 4.4
and see V no update...but even it will get 4.3..
xperia L yes in q4 of 2013 ....lol sony doesnt even thinking of update for now...
and there are 2 xperia T in it..
the first one it states that the update will release on the 4th quarter whereas the last one states as No 4.3 release for Xperia T
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Sony has started to identify potential Android upgrade paths on the software support pages for circa 2013 phones.
Again it is noted that all is quiet(22-NOV) on the XPERIA M front with no new information at this time.
Example of the Sony XPERIA SP Android upgrade path seen towards the bottom of the web page.
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My observation was not well received so I removed it.
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I hope that that poster didn't get away with it. That's ridiculous. Since when is it not possible to post an opinion/guess/observation?
Yep, any of us that have owned Xperia 2012/2013 devices may have noticed that mid-tier devices often do get upgrades to major Android revisions, just not the first batch, which makes sense. I think the M will get it, maybe March or so.
Dudes/Dudettes, we're all good.
I didn't really like my own comment that much anyway.
I just worded my retraction poorly and come across as a bit of a drama queen. Fixed it now.
We're in a highly speculate thread until Sony provides confirmation on the direction the XPERIA M will take, so we can except augments from all points of view.
The truth is out there, hopefully we'll know soon.
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I hope that that poster didn't get away with it. That's ridiculous. Since when is it not possible to post an opinion/guess/observation?
Yep, any of us that have owned Xperia 2012/2013 devices may have noticed that mid-tier devices often do get upgrades to major Android revisions, just not the first batch, which makes sense. I think the M will get it, maybe March or so.
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Dr Goodvibes said:
Dudes/Dudettes, we're all good.
I didn't really like my own comment that much anyway.
I just worded my retraction poorly and come across as a bit of a drama queen. Fixed it now.
We're in a highly speculate thread until Sony provides confirmation on the direction the XPERIA M will take, so we can except augments from all points of view.
The truth is out there, hopefully we'll know soon.
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guys Xperia M is not mid tier to sony..
for them 15000+ is mid tier..
if u see the list for update they has plan to update SP,T,TX,V
all are 15000+
they missed their J,miro...which 15000-
what i m saying is just dont have too much believe and get angry on sony,and dont believe the some sites info...
just wait for <1 year we can see whether SONY give or not giving the update to Xperia M..
but i hope they would alteast give any one update to M like 4.3 or 4.4 in future ... since they didnt update Xperia M to 4.2[maybe planning to jump version instead of wasting time in 4.2]
So what is the Xperia E? The E and M are definitely not even close in terms of specs.
Maybe it's market-dependent. I live in Europe. Here, roughly the prices are:
Xperia E- €60
Xperia M - €250
Xperia SP €350
Xperia Z - €500
The Xperia M is mid-tier in Europe. In no universe is a €250 phone budget. I cannot be sure of every maket outside Europe but I can be here.
p.s. The Xperia Go in 2013 was updated to JellyBean. That was mid-tier.
i am a xperia s user who got this phone during ealry 2013,maybe i am late but xperia s isnt that old as many people think.launched with android 2.3,updated to android 4.0.and took a year for a final android 4.1 update.updates were good but i feel xperia s was killed before its life cycle,because of sony delays.and what about xperia ion,its still left with .200 buggy firmware.if 18 months is the life cycle,is the matter all say to justify,what about xperia sl.it is still in its living stage.i just wanted to know am i the only to think so or there are more people who think the same ? and dont give the reason about snapdragon s3 drivers.if sony really wants to update,its not hard for a big company.please share your thoughts.xperia s and its brothers deserved a taste of kitkat but killed coz of the update delays
You are right bro.. Sony Xperia S update sucked big time.. As a normal phone Xperia S is great to be honest but as advanced users Xperia series should be avoided..I have seen far more developer interest for my Galaxy S which I bought in 2011(too late) saw far more developer support than the Xperia S.
Developer interest in Xperia phones is lukewarm at best..
Sony Playstation and TVs are great but Sony sucks when it comes to phones and their crappy VAIO laptops..
Sony don't want to release anymore drivers because our Snapdragon S3 uses an old and slow architecture ( Scorpion ) and they completely abandoned it for Krait.
Despite our processor being slow as f***, I don't care much about anything else.. our device can do almost everything an Xperia Z2 can, but of course not as good as Sirius does it, but it can. Now i'm currently porting and flashing Z2 apps and mods to keep my XS alive.
With some heavy modding and the right things in the correct places, my Xperia S runs smooth and almost never lags. I have Sony's latest apps. The only reasons I think about of buying a Z2 or maybe a Z3 (dunno how it's going to be called) is because of XS's small screen, the crappy and plastic build, the lack of 4G and the battery..
And so many great developer from here move to latest xperia and leave us alone... So sad... this device can't live without support from developer.
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If only Sony gave us a 4.3 update
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