I'm wondering if it would be possible to add vulkan support to this device, I assume the libraries weren't included to save storage, but since everything else about the stick supports it, it should be possible, right? Would it require a custom rom? Is it disabled at the driver level? I'd be curious to see if there would be any performance improvements in the Retroarch cores that support it, which is the main reason I'd want it on my stick.
Do you think if I get a jailbroken one or rooted one I could just add the libraries where ever the Open GL files are possibly or would I have to add the libraries and make a custom ROM? Sorry..Im kind of a noob and really wanna slap Vulkan on my Firestick 4k so I can have better playback on my emulators for gaming...please and thank you...
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I read that a stable xbmc build for ouya was released. I'm curious as to what is need for a custom build? Is it to use the joystick? I don't think that's the case as I read something regarding hardware accel playback. But if that's the case why does the generic build of xbmc just work with other tablets/phones?
It is probably because the regular version isn't 100% compatible with the OUYA
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Actually XBMC isn't universal, because different manufacturers have different ideas on how to deal with drivers at the abstraction level. Search around a bit, the Ouya isn't the only device requiring a custom build.
It is probably because the regular version isn't 100% compatible with the OUYA
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duh really?? No kidding??
I assume obviously there is an incompatibility but at least the other post was a little more insightful regarding the abstraction layer.
But xbmc in the end will use two things: opengl, and hardware accelerated video playback. So why would that need a custom build? If the android OS is designed properly this should all be done through an abstraction layer and not have to be coded to be hardware specific.
I guess somewhat related, when I first got my nexus 7 and heard about tegra optimized games. They are boasting that but I didn't actually like to hear that. I read that some other tablets that may actually have a better video chipset, could perform worse with these tegra optimized games. Even though nvidia and ati try and make similar claims, if the game is d3d compliant it will run fine on either. That's how it should be with android, so I shouldn't need an ouya optimized build. But this is my layman's understanding so maybe there's something else I'm not seeing.
The Ouya's lucky tho, my Galaxy S2 still doesn't have a build with hardware acceleration that isn't a beta, so anything but basic XVID AVIs play like molasses. =.=' (Samsung's own video player works better...)
Android's compatibility throughout all devices isn't guaranteed at any level below the abstraction layer. Games don't really have this problem because everything graphic intensive must be done in OpenGLES, which is at least backwards compatible - and unlike Windows you don't have DirectX vying for compatibility with it.*
Video processing is a different beast altogether, because unfortunately OpenGLES isn't a compression/decompression/streaming library. Google by the way doesn't actually promise HD video decompression from the very beginning, just the standard cellphone codecs. Not even VP8, the codec they back. Non HD MP4 is the only decent codec that's guaranteed.
Apple doesn't have this compatibility problem because it is its own manufacturer and nobody else manufactures devices that runs iOS. Android and Windows, not so. <_<'
* And even then remember that some graphics cards support only up to a certain version of DirectX OR OpenGL. Anything greater and the game either won't run, or WILL but won't let you see anything. The only reason why you don't see this in the DX9-10-11 transition was that game engines implemented fallback mechanisms. I still remember the transition between DX8.1 and DX9. <_<'
I have a Fire Stick version 6.2.5.8 ( have been blocking updates for a while). My questions are : If I update to the most recent version of the Fire Stick OS, will I lose any of my customizations/modifications ( Launcher Hijack, changing multiple things with ADB ,etc)? Also, does anyone have a current list of Amazon system apps (bloatware) that can be disabled safely.....the purpose being to improve performance by freeing up memory. Has anyone done this (disabled app and achieved a perceptable performance increase )? The main reason I am considering the OS update, is to get Miracast capability on the Fire Stick ( I am going to attemt to cast from Fire Stick to Roku.....has anyone tried this ? Thanks.
Currently my Fire TV Stick 4K is running in 32-bit mode with support of 64-bit ARM-v8-A. I'm asking if it's easy to change it to 64-bit? I used AIDA64 which provides device info of my device. This is found in the CPU tab of the app and is labeled as instruction set.
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Currently my Fire TV Stick 4K is running in 32-bit mode with support of 64-bit ARM-v8-A. I'm asking if it's easy to change it to 64-bit? I used AIDA64 which provides device info of my device. This is found in the CPU tab of the app and is labeled as instruction set.
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We just need a 64-bit kernel and 64-bit OS.
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We just need a 64-bit kernel and 64-bit OS.
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Yeah I see why now because the OS it's currently using is 32-bit and I'm really hoping we get Fire OS 7 soon with support for 64-bit along with a kernel with it too
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Yeah I see why now because the OS it's currently using is 32-bit and I'm really hoping we get Fire OS 7 soon with support for 64-bit along with a kernel with it too
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I don't think Amazon will ever make a 64 bit os version for its stick, On Cube it may be possible but on sticks, i don't think so
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Yeah I see why now because the OS it's currently using is 32-bit and I'm really hoping we get Fire OS 7 soon with support for 64-bit along with a kernel with it too
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They really need to update the fire 4k stick to android 9 instead of bringing out other trashy sticks in a higher os. Maybe if enough people shout for a pie 64 update...... Who knows?
@Skel40, I have your Debloated rom 6.2.7.3 running ftvlaunchx and firesetiings with ATV launcher Pro , will it be safe to use your Buildprop Tweaks on this version with the aforementioned modifications or will I need to go back to firetv launcher first??
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Yeah I see why now because the OS it's currently using is 32-bit and I'm really hoping we get Fire OS 7 soon with support for 64-bit along with a kernel with it too
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I know the first-gen bueller box got an update from kitkat 4.4 to lollipop 5.1, but I believe that is the first and the last fireTV with a major OS update until today.
Is amazon going to push an update with the next major version of Android onto the 4k stick? I doubt it.
Seems there isn't any support at all. And its a shame, really.
They preffer to start selling new crappy lite sticks in 1080p max
Where the f*ck is the f*cking PIE update for the 4k stick!
We need it now!
PS: I'll take it also in 32bit
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They really need to update the fire 4k stick to android 9 instead of bringing out other trashy sticks in a higher os. Maybe if enough people shout for a pie 64 update...... Who knows?
@Skel40, I have your Debloated rom 6.2.7.3 running ftvlaunchx and firesetiings with ATV launcher Pro , will it be safe to use your Buildprop Tweaks on this version with the aforementioned modifications or will I need to go back to firetv launcher first??
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The Build.prop tweaks are completely safe to add yourself no matter what state the Fire TV is in with or without the AFTV launcher
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I know the first-gen bueller box got an update from kitkat 4.4 to lollipop 5.1, but I believe that is the first and the last fireTV with a major OS update until today.
Is amazon going to push an update with the next major version of Android onto the 4k stick? I doubt it.
Seems there isn't any support at all. And its a shame, really.
They preffer to start selling new crappy lite sticks in 1080p max
Where the f*ck is the f*cking PIE update for the 4k stick!
We need it now!
PS: I'll take it also in 32bit
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Amazon really messed up with the specs. The 4K is more powerful than the new sticks so it wouldn't really make any sense for them to not release the next major release considering how up to date the specs are from a cheap device that's more capable of 4K and having very similar boards to the current ones that replace the old second generation stick. I take it in 32-bit mode considering it to be the only option for what the 4K can handle like Nvidia's Shield TV Tube's same 32-bit only mode.
Hello all,
Somebody knows how to compare the embedded Fire OS 7 into this Smart TV with the actual Fire stick devices? Can I use the root/TWRP options the same as 4k devices?
I try to improve the performance of this TV because its very poor factory configuration. I only get better response closing open apps with "Background Apps & Process List" but sometimes I need an extra. Any suggestion?
There's no bootloader unlock / rooting methods for any of the FireTV televisions. Many of the new televisions use a MTK T31 SOC.
I have no idea if it has the same 2 vulnerabilities as the 4k / 3rd gen Sticks. If it did you would still have to modify the exploits to work with your television's bootloader (considerable amount of work).
You're better off using a debloat tool to disable any unnecessary apps. You could also buy a 4k stick, root it and use it as your primary OS, or another TV box.
I am just looking for something simple (don't care which version) that will allow passthrough Dolby (All types), DTS (All types), and possibly PCM.
I just download a restore that is supposed to have Passthrough, but I can't stream any apps except Emby/Plex/Kodi.
I realize that I could just use this for these apps but I would rather use one fire stick, not two
Any help?
Yes, but Amazon nuked something that mostly killed Kodi passthrough for everything but transcoded 5.1.
You need to root, and downgrade firmware to this one:
Fire TV Stick 4K (mantis) Debloated Rom 6.2.7.1 93/6.2.7.7
Debloated Rom For The Fire TV Stick 4K 6.2.7.1 93/6.2.7.7 Revised NOTE: Firmware versions after 6.2.7.7 will not work with this debloated rom. It's been a few months since I've updated this guide so be cautious with installing this. The latest...
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(6.2.7.1 I can confirm works fine, just watched DTS-MA movie last night)
*Tbh I wouldnt recommend Firestick at all anymore if you are not willing to downgrade. Even with the new passthrough "trick" the audio sounds strange. If you can get to that rom, or anything lower however, I 100% recommend it.
Thank you!
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Yes, but Amazon nuked something that mostly killed Kodi passthrough for everything but transcoded 5.1.
You need to root, and downgrade firmware to this one:
Fire TV Stick 4K (mantis) Debloated Rom 6.2.7.1 93/6.2.7.7
Debloated Rom For The Fire TV Stick 4K 6.2.7.1 93/6.2.7.7 Revised NOTE: Firmware versions after 6.2.7.7 will not work with this debloated rom. It's been a few months since I've updated this guide so be cautious with installing this. The latest...
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(6.2.7.1 I can confirm works fine, just watched DTS-MA movie last night)
*Tbh I wouldnt recommend Firestick at all anymore if you are not willing to downgrade. Even with the new passthrough "trick" the audio sounds strange. If you can get to that rom, or anything lower however, I 100% recommend it.
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6.2.7.7/3033 is what I recommend to be on with the 1.2 release I just released. I'll look into that and see what I can do. My limits with rom editing is a continuous process so I'm still learning and seeing what I can work with. I'll be taking a closer look at passthrough. Maybe it's within the Fire OS Launcher update and settings? I have another forum with the patches on the downgraded roms that has the last known versions somewhere before the migrating of the new interface.
Edit: If 6.2.7.1 was the last version if I recall removing Kodi passthrough I'll release a 1.2 for that as well
6.2.7.7 is when they removed it, good luck but a ton have looked into it on the Kodi forums. For an enthusiast such as OP and myself, the loss of DTS was terrible, but the worst thing was the transcoding\5.1 workaround. I dont think its true passthrough.
Good luck, but this rom has been perfect for a long time now, everyday all day.
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6.2.7.7 is when they removed it, good luck but a ton have looked into it on the Kodi forums. For an enthusiast such as OP and myself, the loss of DTS was terrible, but the worst thing was the transcoding\5.1 workaround. I dont think its true passthrough.
Good luck, but this rom has been perfect for a long time now, everyday all day.
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Makes perfect sense and appreciate the quick reply I've retired from development for a long two years and returning back to it and we can see what @SweenWolf wants to customize with that feature as well with the accessibility and other features that were forcibly removed update by update on the latest firmware
What version of Kodi are you running to get DTS-MA? I only have DTS and PCM for TrueHD