Dropped in water, soked in rice bag, dried out in sun - Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) Questions & Answers

Hi Team,
I love my phone and am not looking to change it,I was in a meeting with my client and my phone dropped in water while doing so, but I had immediately pulled it out and cleaned and switched it off without any further damage.
Just to let you know that I had a back cover for this also which would have protected it to a good shot, however i am more concerned about the front panel and bottom side of charging port speaker, mic and headphone jack.
I could not open it from back else i would have done that and just put that in the rice bag for about 36 hours or more. then i put it under the morning sunlight for about 20 minutes.
Due to the sun I believe that the back panel now near o the bottom side appears to be pulled out a bit.
I have not swtiched it on yet even once, however, I have again put it back in the rice bag.
Any helps here, what should I do and when do i need to turn it on to see any damages.
I do want to go to service center for experts to get it cleaned it inside. However due to lock down i can't do it.
Can anybody guide me what and how to do from here.
I am really not in a mood to get a new phone. There are a lot of stuff saved on the phone that I even don't even have the backup for.
Please help me with this ASAP!

Definitely something shorted in your phone, unfortunately we can't just guessing which part is shorted, usually some diodes, but it can also be an IC.

arif_kholid said:
Definitely something shorted in your phone, unfortunately we can't just guessing which part is shorted, usually some diodes, but it can also be an IC.
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Hi arif, I have just tried working on my phone yesterday and seems like it is working fine for now. It's juts that it s lagging a bit.
everything is functional. I guess I'll have to wait until something strange starts to happen.
Hopefully then lockdown is over and we can get it fixed permanently.

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"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2??

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.
So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....
I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!
This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472
i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?
I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.
I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.
Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here
froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol
demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

[Q] Desire + Water = Glitches galore and a couple questions

So I accidentally put my Desire in about half an inch of water upside down. So my ear speaker, my camera lenses and flash and my head phone jack and my external speaker got submerged. It didn't sit in the water very long, probably about 3 seconds but still long enough to make it start doing some weird things. So my problems are that everything has to load everytime I want to use it. If I'm in my messages and I go to my home screen it goes to the white screen with the green HTC letters and I have to wait for it to load everything every time without fail. It also has to load all my messages when I go into them. Another thing that happens is that my power button message opens randomly and for awhile my power button wasn't working and sometimes it doesn't. So my questions for whoever can answer them is what can I do to fix those problems and where are the moisture detection papers in my phone in case I want to get it fixed under warranty? Thanks a lot.
try putting your device in an air tight container, filled with rice. the rice should absorb most or all of the moisture from your device, leave it for 12-24 hours, then boot it up and try again good luck
Anyone else? I would still like to know where the moisture detection strips are and if anyone else can help me. Thanks.
The moisture detection strips are located on the battery near the connectors and on the phone next to the battery connectors... I went swimming with my HTC desire last summer, it was fully submerged for at least 30 seconds (phone was on).. left it to dry for 5 days in dry rice, and 6 months on it still works, do defenitely try drying it further.
There is a third one too.
ephumuris said:
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The third is inside the actual handset located directly next to the usb port. Of which mine is completely pink.
Thought it might be interesting info for anyone else who manages to water/liquid damage their devices.
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The OP says that he got the upper part submerged, so there is a chance that none of the stickers got red.
That is excellent news. Thanks everyone.

[Q] Galaxy S3 - Replaced external speaker after water damage, still no sound

My S3 took one of those unfortunate, unexpected dips in a porcelain pool. It was buzzing and crackling before I could get the battery out. Let it dry out and everything was working except for the external speaker. No ringtones, speakerphone, music, etc. So I ordered a replacement for the external speaker module, dissected my phone and cleaned the couple spots that showed traces of water, and put it back together... and the speaker still doesn't work. So assuming there is nothing wrong with the replacement, there is probably nothing wrong with the original... and now I have no clue what to do.
I'm not generally real adventurous with my phone. It's not modded; still running the original OS that came on it from Sprint, but it's not under any kind of warranty or service agreement (and the indicator is now purple anyway.)
The internal speaker works and it vibrates. Microphone and camera are okay. Any suggestions? Please?? "I didn't answer my phone because I didn't hear it ring" is already getting to cause me problems.
There's a good chance that when your device took a swim something else may have been damaged. Did you make sure to check that all the connections were carefully placed, before connecting the new speaker ? Also you said that there were signs of water still in the device when you opened it. How did you dry the device ? Did you use Rice ? Or descant ? Most times just air drying the device does not do the job.
prboy1969 said:
There's a good chance that when your device took a swim something else may have been damaged. Did you make sure to check that all the connections were carefully placed, before connecting the new speaker ? Also you said that there were signs of water still in the device when you opened it. How did you dry the device ? Did you use Rice ? Or descant ? Most times just air drying the device does not do the job.
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I did just air dry it. When I opened it up there was no actual water remaining, but there was a white residue around what I am guessing is the internal speaker. I used rubbing alcohol on that to remove it. All the ribbon cables are securely in place and while I'm not adept at circuit boards I don't see anything on the motherboard that would appear to be loose or damaged. I can put it in rice if you think it would make any difference at this point.
Yes. I would still suggest putting it in rice for a few days. Even at this point. Electronics and water don't mix well. Especially smartphones. I've seen devices still have some moisture trapped in them, even after three days of Air Drying. Although the rice may not solve the issue. It's worth a try. If that doesn't resolve anything. ODIN the Stock Tar. If that still doesn't resolve the issue, well then it's time to take it in, and have a repair center look at it.

Screw mix - system use 80% of battery now

Hi,
First you can all say i screwed up and i am stupid.... i assume and i feel stupid, trust me !
I don't know anything about electronic or programming as you but i want to share and maybe find a solution with you for my problem.
3 days ago, I wanted to clean my lens because some dust were on it, so i put out the 2 screws around the lens... of course i did not see they were different...because i am stupid with it ! when i clean it i mixed the two screws so the big one went to deep behind the plastic and make a perforation on a component.
I join a picture to let you see a small hole in the blue part on the right of the camera lens !
Since, the battery is down in 3hours. Android tell me the system use around 80% of the battery and it is warm on the plastic around the lens.
The wifi never want to be put on and the bluetooth too (the MAC WIFI is now : 02:00:00:00:00:00)
The telephone and the 4G are working perfectly
I tried to put a small electric scotch on the hole but this don't change anything.
I just want to use this phone as a phone now, i don't care if the bluetooth, the wifi or the camera is working well or not at all....
Is it possible with the hidden menu to disconnect this component???
Do you have a solution which allowed me to continue using this phone which is perfect otherwise?
Sorry for my english....as you can see, i am not so good with it !
Thanks in advance for your advice...
Any idea of
What is the component i touch with the screw???
how i can use the hidden menu to disconnect wifi and bluetooth???
Thank u
nitsuguaaaa said:
Any idea of
What is the component i touch with the screw???
how i can use the hidden menu to disconnect wifi and bluetooth???
Thank u
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I have a vs985 & yours is a d855, but I think the boards are similar enough to try and help.
It's not a component you hit - it's just tape. I opened up my phone and tested that spot on the board with a DMM and it looks like a ground plane underneath the tape you punctured. That in itself shouldn't be causing your problems, but if your screw went through the ground plane & into the board it may be shorting something out which could be causing your issues. If that's the case I don't know if your phone is salvageable.
1)Try removing the back cover and see if the issues go away. There is a possibility that when you re-assembled the phone something ended up out of place/off its contacts.
2)Also, I'd take a closer look and see how deep the screw went. Maybe take a fine tip tweezer and see if there is some of that ground plane mashed in the hole & try to gently peel it out.
3)And, of course, try resetting your phone or even re-flashing at some point - just so you can know for sure you didn't have some weird software glitch that just happened to show up after you opened your phone.
Hidden menu - I've never used it and I'm not on stock so I can't tell you much about it's functions. Here's a link... https://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/3z4nwi/lg_g3_hidden_menu_on_60_marshmallow/
Good luck - hope you get it sorted out
thanks,
I ll try tomorrow and tell you ASAP !!
THX again to spend time for me

Flooded phone, working screen but not charging

Hey guys,
So i flooded my phone, dried it, left in rice for 2 days and now when i connect it to my charger the screen goes up after a minute or so but its not charging. My screen shows battery icon with a bolt inside and a zero below, or battery with a cable inside and zero below. Any idea what can i do to fix this? I can boot to bootloarder mode, but when I'm trying to boot to recovery/other modes it goes back to 'charging screen'.
Thanks in advance!
The battery is eeprom controlled so you probably damaged it when teaching the phone to swim. Flashing will do nothing for it.
Putting the phone in rice is a bad idea as it isn't as absorbent as you think. You should have left it over a radiator for a week or so to evaporate the water before even thinking about switching it on, but by then the damage was probably already done.
If it doesnt start working in week or so then expect it to be expensive to fix.
Beamed in by telepathy.
Not sure what eeprom is, but if its in the part below, then i could replace it myself with no problem. What are Your thougts? I know that more thing may be broken, but if it would go back to life i would be glad because I don't want to spend money on any new phone, maybe apart from S8/pixel but its expensive as hell.
https://e.allegroimg.com/original/0115f6/28e0dc9447338f8114880dfb6c1e
If i couldn't repair this bad boy then I would probably go with 6s, but I'm not sure if I want to make the transition to iOS.
Cheers and thanks for previous reply

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