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[Q] Titanium Backup: restoring after wiping

I have the premium version of Titanium Backup which I have been using for over a year with much success.
I have one query which would make it really awesome if it can be accomplished.
I normally only use it when doing a ROM upgrade. When I am getting ready to upgrade, I delete all my old backups, do a new set of backups on all user apps + system data, and wipe and flash the ROM. Then, when I'm back inside, I go into the Market and download Titanium plus the Pro unlock, and restore the backup.
(First of all, is this what you guys do? restoring all system data shouldn't screw up the features of the new ROM from the old one, right?)
The question is: Is there any way to have Titanium run without having to first go into the Market, find the app plus the unlock, download it, and install it? i.e. If I could just run it straight off the SD card, or install it straight off the SD card without having to use the Market.
Ideally, it would be even better if I could have a startup script on first run where it just restores the full set of apps + system data after I've flashed the ROM.
Is this at all possible?

download or extract from a rom the titanium.apk, put it on sd-card an install the apk after flashing new rom and it´s done.

Ozzah said:
I have the premium version of Titanium Backup which I have been using for over a year with much success.
I have one query which would make it really awesome if it can be accomplished.
I normally only use it when doing a ROM upgrade. When I am getting ready to upgrade, I delete all my old backups, do a new set of backups on all user apps + system data, and wipe and flash the ROM. Then, when I'm back inside, I go into the Market and download Titanium plus the Pro unlock, and restore the backup.
(First of all, is this what you guys do? restoring all system data shouldn't screw up the features of the new ROM from the old one, right?)
The question is: Is there any way to have Titanium run without having to first go into the Market, find the app plus the unlock, download it, and install it? i.e. If I could just run it straight off the SD card, or install it straight off the SD card without having to use the Market.
Ideally, it would be even better if I could have a startup script on first run where it just restores the full set of apps + system data after I've flashed the ROM.
Is this at all possible?
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Never restore system data as it can and has causes issues. It is only advised to restore user apps and data never system data.
As for your other question no not that I know of. Most roms worth anything already include TIBU so all you have to do is install the pro key and run it.

Start Titanium backup
Goto menu/more/create update>zip
scroll down and hit "create update.zip"
when you install a new Rom just use "add another zip" when in Rom manager or 4EXT recovery
Goto SD card and select "update.zip" from root of SD card
Hope that helps

alchopop said:
Start Titanium backup
Goto menu/more/create update>zip
scroll down and hit "create update.zip"
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Thanks, that's great!
Do you know if it is smart enough to bundle the Pro unlock into the update.zip? I opened the zip file up and there only appears to be 1 APK in there.
Would it be difficult (or even possible?) to manually adjust the update.zip so that it includes the Pro unlock APK?

Ozzah said:
Thanks, that's great!
Do you know if it is smart enough to bundle the Pro unlock into the update.zip? I opened the zip file up and there only appears to be 1 APK in there.
Would it be difficult (or even possible?) to manually adjust the update.zip so that it includes the Pro unlock APK?
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Pro unlock is stored on the SD card, no need to worry about it
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

restoring
So I'm returning my nexus for a replacement today. Some kind of battery issue that makes it keep turning off every night:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34923533#post34923533
On restoring, if I understand right, I'm going to move my titanium folder back to the new nexus to the SD card area.
Run my TiBU apk and just restore my apps and associated files.
If I understand right, I Should Not restore my system files right? (Although i did a lot of customizing i was hoping could come right over).
Then when i have it all customized again, I'll back up the new system and hopefully it won't have any issues anymore.
Just an android noob talking it through, sound good?
I'll be installing the rom and CM10 again of course before doing this.

zelendel said:
Never restore system data as it can and has causes issues. It is only advised to restore user apps and data never system data.
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Sorry, i take this opportunity to ask a question i had in mind for a long time: what exactly do you mean by "system data"?
I mean, can i restore stuff like "Settings", or "Wireless network", "Bluetooth associations", "SMS", "Wallpaper" and stuff like this? Is really annoying to have to re-customize from scratch the CyanogenMod settings and similar stuff, everytime i do a full wipe...

sberla54 said:
Sorry, i take this opportunity to ask a question i had in mind for a long time: what exactly do you mean by "system data"?
I mean, can i restore stuff like "Settings", or "Wireless network", "Bluetooth associations", "SMS", "Wallpaper" and stuff like this? Is really annoying to have to re-customize from scratch the CyanogenMod settings and similar stuff, everytime i do a full wipe...
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You can restore these, they're not system level files (i.e. make the system run)

GuyInTheCorner said:
You can restore these, they're not system level files (i.e. make the system run)
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Thank you!
So....what's the stuff i DON'T have to restore, because messes up my system?

sberla54 said:
Thank you!
So....what's the stuff i DON'T have to restore, because messes up my system?
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Do not restore data from SYSTEM apps.

dalanik said:
Do not restore data from SYSTEM apps.
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Could you tell me a couple of examples?
I'm sorry but i really can't figure out which ones are the system apps. In my opinion, even Settings and Wireless networks are system apps.
Do you mean all the services, frameworks, sms and contacts apps and stuff like this?

sberla54 said:
Could you tell me a couple of examples?
I'm sorry but i really can't figure out which ones are the system apps. In my opinion, even Settings and Wireless networks are system apps.
Do you mean all the services, frameworks, sms and contacts apps and stuff like this?
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I think he's talking about app names that are red-colored while you're doing the backup in Titanium BackUp.
Am I right?
Cheers

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[Q] SD card formated... How reinstall all apps automatically from playstore ?

Hello,
I wanted to update my firmware, unfortunatelly my device was fully formated ... How reinstall all apps automatically from playstore ?
I can see my 156 apps in google playstore.... But reinstall them one by one would be very boring !
Thanks for your help.

Just open Playstore in computer...sign into playstore and click my android apps in the upper right hand corner...there you will see which all apps were installed on your device...jst keep pressing install and things will be installed on to your phone...!!
Hope this helps

kskendsup, that's exactly what he(everyone) DOESN'T want to do. He has 156 apps
I am in need of a similar solution, I just flashed and did a full wipe, but android/google play refuses to sync my apps like it did before.
Is there anyway to automate downloading and installing all the apps listed in "My Apps"? I do have root access.
/sorry for threadjacking

How about downloading an macro recorder or similar program on PC and make it press install in every app you have in play store.
And to prevent this from happening again, use titanium backup. You can even transfer your titanium backups to pc in case of full wipe.

For future reference why not get a backup program like Mybackup Pro or Titanium Backup? Titanium offers scheduled backups and has a lot of other features like only keeping 3 backups, or 1 if you prefer.
To reinstall most apps the simplest way I find is to login to my Google account, turn WiFi on and after a few minutes it starts to restore them. Remember to check the box that asks if you want it to keep your device backed up.
If neither of these are what you want then I don't know what you can do. I normally backup a ROM and the apps separately so I can always recover if an update to a ROM requires a full wipe.

Guys, if I format the CD card, do all system folders get deleted also? Or it'll just delete user data?

The formatting of the SD card means that everything will get deleted but i guess the important folders are made by system again which are required for the system to run...!!

cutt88 said:
Guys, if I format the CD card, do all system folders get deleted also? Or it'll just delete user data?
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Formatting sdcard alone will not format system and user data (unless for some apps on asec).
Format system and wipe data thru CWM will delete them

kskendsup said:
The formatting of the SD card means that everything will get deleted but i guess the important folders are made by system again which are required for the system to run...!!
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Just asking to make sure the formatting won't brick my phone..

@dionas
I had and loved to use titanium BUT
When my all phone was erased by updating firmware, titanium has also gone !. So titanium isn't the solution in my case .
Envoyé depuis mon HTC One X avec Tapatalk

cutt88 said:
Just asking to make sure the formatting won't brick my phone..
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Nah it wont brick..unless you totally wipe it through CWM and then no rom is loaded onto it, it would not start but thats not bricking it..!!
If you just normally format your SD card it means only your music n things like that will be deleted..no chance of bricking i guess..!!

[Q] Apps backup via Rom Toolbox Pro

hey!
I have been unable to find a solution to my problem by search. Please help me or link me to the solution, if its been answered.
My brother has Gnex and is on 4.2.1. He has rom toolbox pro installed and used it to backup apps (his device is also rooted). Now from the root browser in the app, there is App Manager folder and inside the apps are backed up in a folder. Now, when I plug the phone in, the folder is not visible at all. How do I transfer those apps to the computer? Do I really need to transfer them because my bro wants to flash CM 10.0.0 instead of using pure android 4.2.1 .
Thanks for your help.

If you are changing the ROM then I recommend a full-wipe so Yes you need to backup your apps in order to restore them later. If this is all you need then use Titanium Backup instead. It will make a folder on /sdcard/ which you can easily transfer to your PC afterwards.
I haven't used ROM Toolbox at all but if you can determine the location of the "App Manager" folder you are talking about then probably you will get some help on how to transfer it to PC although I suggest using Titanium Backup to backup your apps

LimitsX said:
hey!
I have been unable to find a solution to my problem by search. Please help me or link me to the solution, if its been answered.
My brother has Gnex and is on 4.2.1. He has rom toolbox pro installed and used it to backup apps (his device is also rooted). Now from the root browser in the app, there is App Manager folder and inside the apps are backed up in a folder. Now, when I plug the phone in, the folder is not visible at all. How do I transfer those apps to the computer? Do I really need to transfer them because my bro wants to flash CM 10.0.0 instead of using pure android 4.2.1 .
Thanks for your help.
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That is a problem with Windows and MTP I believe. I've had the same problem with other folders on my 'sdcard' and windows now showing them. You can use adb to pull them from your device. I actually like that a lot better and use it to transfer my sdcard contents to/from my computer. Also, there is no reason to worry about getting them on your pc just to flash a different rom. With any custom rom, your sdcard will not be wiped unless you do so yourself in recovery. Just do a factory reset from within recovery before installing a different rom like CM10.

Helium Backup on LG G4 (H815)

Has anyone gotten Helium to work yet?
I've been playing around with it for the last hour or so and I'm not having any luck. I've tried PTP, MTP, installing updated drivers, just won't take.
Am I missing something? Or is this just not supported yet?

ClockworkMod Support says they are currently looking into the issues. Sounds like it just doesn't like the phone for whatever reason. Bummer

I could make the PC showing "Green Tick" mark and saying phone is connected, but the app in the mobile saying "waiting for the connection in pc" which is weird.

Thank god i was at the point of doing a fresh install of Windows because i thought my drivers where screwed up

nipun1110 said:
I could make the PC showing "Green Tick" mark and saying phone is connected, but the app in the mobile saying "waiting for the connection in pc" which is weird.
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That's the same issue I was having, just making sure I wasn't crazy!

So what are the alternatives?
Getting your new phone to act like the old one is the worst part of getting a new phone. Ugh, first world problems. Actually was dreading even receiving my G4 because of this and now Helium doesn't even work.
This is my first non Nexus in a long time. How else can I move all my apps and app data over??

Yes, same problem here. I've emailed [email protected] to let them know.
I'm going to mention the unmentionable:
When you get a new iPhone on the day of release, you log in, and wait while everything is restored.
How's the average non-XDA Android owner supposed to move to a new phone?! Even us XDA readers have to wait for Helium, for boot unlock, root to catch up with us.

I got this reply from Clockworkmod support:
"Hi there, we are looking into the G4 issues now, sorry for your frustration. "
Fingers crossed!

scirio said:
So what are the alternatives?
Getting your new phone to act like the old one is the worst part of getting a new phone. Ugh, first world problems. Actually was dreading even receiving my G4 because of this and now Helium doesn't even work.
This is my first non Nexus in a long time. How else can I move all my apps and app data over??
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I was able to still use Helium to backup, then did a manual restore with adb. I had a rooted Nexus 5 and used Helium like normal to do a backup. Then copied the 'carbon' folder from the Nexus 5 to my PC. What Helium is really doing is using adb to restore data, so after you have the Helium backup, you can connect your G4 to your PC (and all needed drivers) and use the command 'adb restore'. It is a bit tedious, as you need to restore each application separately, but it works. Example:
adb restore <path to carbon folder>/com.application.example/com.application.example.ab
Then follow the instructions on screen on the G4 and enter a password if you did when you did the backup in Helium.
I also used SMSBackupandRestore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en) for SMS, MMS and call logs, since adb can't do those without root.
Got my G4 back to pretty much the same state. Would be much easier with root and Titanium, but for now it did the job.

unnamedapps said:
I was able to still use Helium to backup, then did a manual restore with adb. I had a rooted Nexus 5 and used Helium like normal to do a backup. Then copied the 'carbon' folder from the Nexus 5 to my PC. What Helium is really doing is using adb to restore data, so after you have the Helium backup, you can connect your G4 to your PC (and all needed drivers) and use the command 'adb restore'. It is a bit tedious, as you need to restore each application separately, but it works. Example:
adb restore <path to carbon folder>/com.application.example/com.application.example.ab
Then follow the instructions on screen on the G4 and enter a password if you did when you did the backup in Helium.
I also used SMSBackupandRestore (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en) for SMS, MMS and call logs, since adb can't do those without root.
Got my G4 back to pretty much the same state. Would be much easier with root and Titanium, but for now it did the job.
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or you could try the less tedious job of http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-...-apps-your-htc-one-using-adb-for-mac-0151180/
which is essentially what helium does anyway....

soyelmango said:
Yes, same problem here. I've emailed [email protected] to let them know.
I'm going to mention the unmentionable:
When you get a new iPhone on the day of release, you log in, and wait while everything is restored.
How's the average non-XDA Android owner supposed to move to a new phone?! Even us XDA readers have to wait for Helium, for boot unlock, root to catch up with us.
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There is LG Backup. Going from an LG G2, G3 maybe others, to the G4 it does a very thorough job of restoring sms/mms, call logs, apps dat/settings, etc. Coming from other Android phones it's only a matter of Google automatically downloading the apps/data and copying over the data. Contacts stored in Gmail is important. I've helped non techie friends do this - very easy.

starfcker69 said:
There is LG Backup. Going from an LG G2, G3 maybe others, to the G4 it does a very thorough job of restoring sms/mms, call logs, apps dat/settings, etc. Coming from other Android phones it's only a matter of Google automatically downloading the apps/data and copying over the data. Contacts stored in Gmail is important. I've helped non techie friends do this - very easy.
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Too bad the Verizon Fun Police took the LG Backup away, for some of us.

icecold23 said:
Too bad the Verizon Fun Police took the LG Backup away, for some of us.
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Verizon must know what's best for you!

starfcker69 said:
Verizon must know what's best for you!
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Yup, and my phone prompts me to eat all my vegetables before I can send a text. So annoying...

starfcker69 said:
... Coming from other Android phones it's only a matter of Google automatically downloading the apps/data and copying over the data. Contacts stored in Gmail is important...
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That's what I thought too. I've got contacts, calendar, etc on my Google account, so no problem there. However, the only data Google restored was my Google sign in (that is, access to contacts, calendar, gmail, etc) - but not the app settings themselves, not even for their own Gmail app. The concept of Google backing up and restoring app data is fantastic, but unfortunately in practice, I haven't seen it happen.

if you just want to restore some backup from previous phone to G4, you could always use adb command to do that instead of helium app, just type
adb restore "backup location", where the "backup location" is the location that you put your helium backup, the file with the extension .ab

emprize said:
if you just want to restore some backup from previous phone to G4, you could always use adb command to do that instead of helium app, just type
adb restore "backup location", where the "backup location" is the location that you put your helium backup, the file with the extension .ab
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I was able to restore my Helium backups one backup at a time (a pain but at least I got the important stuff), but I was not able to do a adb backup of my old phone (something like this "adb backup -noapk -noshared -nosystem -all -f c:\backup.ab" and restore it to the G4. It would say restoring for about 1-2 seconds and then quit with no error and nothing restored. It would have been very nice to get it work using only adb and do it all with one file and one command...

ColdBrew said:
I was able to restore my Helium backups one backup at a time (a pain but at least I got the important stuff), but I was not able to do a adb backup of my old phone (something like this "adb backup -noapk -noshared -nosystem -all -f c:\backup.ab" and restore it to the G4. It would say restoring for about 1-2 seconds and then quit with no error and nothing restored. It would have been very nice to get it work using only adb and do it all with one file and one command...
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try downloading adb over wifi and try again (if you need to)

No news from Helium ? Same trouble here.

No news? I have the same problem

Question When I unlock the bootloader - will the settings and applications remain?

Hello.
When I unlock the bootloader, will the applications and settings remain, or will the phone be in the factory settings? If the bootloader is in the factory settings after unlocking, how can I back up my applications with data?
Thanks

jkmaxfli said:
Hello.
When I unlock the bootloader, will the applications and settings remain, or will the phone be in the factory settings? If the bootloader is in the factory settings after unlocking, how can I back up my applications with data?
Thanks
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It will factory reset and wipe everything on the phone like files and photos, so backup everything to your PC before unlocking

arifqur said:
It will factory reset and wipe everything on the phone like files and photos, so backup everything to your PC before unlocking
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How do I back up my own applications with settings and data to my computer?

jkmaxfli said:
How do I back up my own applications with settings and data to my computer?
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You can't backup to your PC. The best you can do is go into settings and backup your settings to Google drive /mi account and WhatsApp backup and other app's internal backup features. Also copy all your photos and files onto your PC. Other then that you will lose a small amount of data

jkmaxfli said:
How do I back up my own applications with settings and data to my computer?
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I don't think there its possible to backup apps with data and settings to computer. Try this app. I haven't used it though
Backup and Restore - APP & SMS - Apps on Google Play
Light APP Extractor to back-up APK to Local & SD & Cloud
play.google.com

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Suhaas said:
I don't think there its possible to backup apps with data and settings to computer. Try this app. I haven't used it though
Backup and Restore - APP & SMS - Apps on Google Play
Light APP Extractor to back-up APK to Local & SD & Cloud
play.google.com
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With this app can not backup apks.
Backup yes,but recovery the apk can not.

Robert314 said:
You can't backup to your PC. The best you can do is go into settings and backup your settings to Google drive /mi account and WhatsApp backup and other app's internal backup features. Also copy all your photos and files onto your PC. Other then that you will lose a small amount of data
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i don't need to back up photos and videos etc but my installed apps with settings.

jkmaxfli said:
i don't need to back up photos and videos etc but my installed apps with settings.
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You can do app data backup and restore only if you have root and for root you need an unlocked bootloader. So no easy way out of this

arifqur said:
You can do app data backup and restore only if you have root and for root you need an unlocked bootloader. So no easy way out of this
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... so it 's not good for me

jkmaxfli said:
... so it 's not good for me
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Try this adb command: https://android.stackexchange.com/a/28888
Or this:
Backup & Restore Android Apps Using ADB
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