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The Sony Smartwatch 3 is fully capable of housing Wear 2.0 and has the same specs as half of the devices that are getting the update. Also, it has NFC which you could use with the new Android Pay! I'm not sure if the NFC on the SW3 is full fledged but either way, I think this device should receive wear 2.0 regardless of how old it is if the specs can handle it. If you think so too, email Sony and if a lot of us do it maybe they'll notice. Here's a copy of what I sent them:
Very disappointed that the Smartwatch 3 will not be receiving Wear 2.0. It's very unreasonable as it has the same specs as half of the devices that will be getting the upgrade. In fact, it has better specs than some! The SW3 has NFC which is now finally going to be useful with Android Pay! Just take one good look at any website that just posted about Wear 2.0 and you'll see it's not just me that's upset about this. This device is a great smartwatch and is fully capable of housing Android Wear 2.0.
Update!!: Sorry, guys! I haven't been getting any email notifications from this thread. I had no idea so many people have been viewing it! Here is the link to where you can send them an email: http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/swr50/contactUs/mail/?region=en_GB
Hope this works, fingers crossed.
Update 2: I will be making a separate thread but here I see a link to a change.org petition I made because the other one wasn't very persuasive. https://www.change.org/p/sony-wear-2-0-on-sony-sw3?recruiter=680990369&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive
Well stated!
Which sony email that you used? Can i have it too?
Hello SW3 users.
My concern is that the new app delivery model will make our watch a dumb watch. I bought this watch less than a year ago just for the fitness apps, and without them for me it's completely useless.
To the OP: if you share the email address that you've used we can concentrate on a single target!
http://www.xperiablog.net/2017/02/08/sony-smartwatch-3-not-on-the-android-wear-2-0-list/
This just makes me wanna crawl in a corner and cry. I dont think its Sony's fault I blame stupid Google because if it wernt for them all snapdragon 801 devices would have Nougat offically but because they dont wanna give them vulkan support they dont. Same with the SW3 and its a load of crap with the SW3 if we dont get it because most watches only have 2 cores enabled so if they enabled the other 2 wouldnt that count as extra power? Snapdragon 400 should be enough for wear 2.0. I will be really sad if we dont get wear 2.0.
Edit: Huawei watch doesnt even have NFC. Unlike some other watches we also have wifi too i cant see what would be missing to support wear 2.0.
I have sent a message to Sony via the Xperia Care email form.
using the email link on this page.
http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/contactUs/
and they replied, with the content being:
"We can advise that currently we do not have any confirmation as to whether or not the Sony SmartWatch 3 will receive the Android Wear 2.0 update, we apologise for any inconvenience this may cause you. We do appreciate your feedback regarding this and will pass this on internally.
For further information regarding software updates we would recommend that you check our blog regularly as any announcements would be made there. You can visit our blog at: blogs.sonymobile.com. "
Similar here from a live chat
Adam A
Thank you. In relation to your query, no announcement regarding this has been made at this time, so I do not have details to provide regarding this.
We would be advise to keep checking the Sony Mobile Blog for information on updates on the release of any update for this watch however - ht.tp://blogs.sonymobile.com/
Steve.: OK so it's neither a yes or a no?
Adam A: It hasn't been confirmed for release
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Adam A
Thank you. In relation to your query, no announcement regarding this has been made at this time, so I do not have details to provide regarding this.
We would be advise to keep checking the Sony Mobile Blog for information on updates on the release of any update for this watch however - ht.tp://blogs.sonymobile.com/
Steve.: OK so it's neither a yes or a no?
Adam A: It hasn't been confirmed for release
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this is the anwer by sony:
Mr. xxx,
We thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
We inform you that we do not yet have an official confirmation that the Android Wear 2. 0 will be used for our connected products Smartwatch 3.
Below is the link to our official web page allowing to have the latest Android news for our products:
Https: // www. Sonymobile. Com / en / xperia / android-xperia /
While we thank you, we remain at your disposal for any additional information.
Our newsletter allows you to find all Sony news. Do not hesitate to register!
We invite you to contact Sony Xperia Support for further assistance and visit our website http: // www. Sonymobile. Com for more information on the support of our products. We also show you our new demo products and accessories.
Please send emails to questions. Fr
support. Sonymobile. Com. Phone: 0 969 32 2121
The Service Request provided in the subject of this message is reserved exclusively for queries that are directly associated with this case. Please note that the ticket is automatically closed five days after sending our reply.
best regard
Hedi
Sony Xperia Support
Five minutes to answer me in the same way!
Maybe emails are filtered by some AI...
Thank you for contacting the Sony Xperia support centre.
We apologise for your frustration at the lack of information regarding Android Wear 2 being available for the SmartWatch 3. As soon as Sony have any update we will let our valued customers know. We apologise for this inconvenience
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Sony UK told me today on live chat that they won't upgrade
It's the same as with KK for the Sony Xperia SP, a very popular device. It was on their site and then suddenly it wasn't anymore and then the final message NO KK for the SP.
I really doubt it that SW3 will get AW2.0 for the reasons that all big companies are not interested in updating, only selling new.
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I really doubt it that SW3 will get AW2.0 for the reasons that all big companies are not interested in updating, only selling new.
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Likewise, I assumed as much when I bought the watch late last year - very much case of "good price and I'm not going to expect much from a device over 2 years old".
Shame though!
Sad, it's very sad...
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Not good news...
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Android Wear @AndroidWear 2h2 hours ago
@alex_f_k Hi Alex. Unfortunately, Sony Smartwatch 3 won't get Android Wear 2.0. Check the list of watches here: .
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OK guys we can't stay and just look, we have to do what we can.
The Asus Zenwatch 2 have A.W. 2, is a square watch like the SW3 the screen is just 0'03 ' bigger, the processor is the same, the SW3 has NFC an important features of A.W. 2 something that haven't the ZW2silly. There are our argument, you can had other if you want.
Now we have to create a polemic about programmed obsolescence we have to contact the tech press of our country. Google and Sony will not want to be in this case. In France programmed obsolescence is now an offence.
I believe in you, contact specialized press and consumer association.:fingers-crossed:
This our only chance the media
Google translate you know...
Change.org for 2.0
w w w . change . org/p/sony-android-wear-2-on-sony-smartwatch-3?recruiter=243188806&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
Didrik F Fri, 02/10/17 10:37:10 am Europe/Copenhagen
Welcome to Sony Xperia Support, my name is Didrik F. I’m currently reading your question. Please provide your e-mail address and contact number for personalized support.
Claus 10:38:20 am
Does the Sony Smartwatch get upgraded to Android Wear 2.0?
Didrik F 10:40:21 am
Currently Smartwactch 3 is not on the list of smartwatches to be updated to Android Wear 2.0. There is however a possibility that it might receive it later.
Claus 10:42:10 am
Ok, but you are stirring up MAJOR confusion, since several retailers and articles states that it WILL be upgraded. And other users had that confirmed by your english support. Then all of a sudden you either say it wont (message from the english support) or says it might. Either way you are backpedaling from previous claims (and a lot of info out there confirming the upgrade)
So just be honest if you ran into unforseen consequenses.. (or are considering a Smartwatch 4) 10:43:03 am
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/upgrade-to-android-wear-2-0-t3495518 10:44:14 am
Didrik F 10:44:25 am
We currently don't have any information about any possible unforseen consequenses or if/when Smartwatch 4 will be developed. You can however find more information about the Smartwatch 3 and Android wear on our blog.
https://www.xperiablog.net/2017/02/08/sony-smartwatch-3-not-on-the-android-wear-2-0-list/
Claus 10:44:31 am
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch-3/general/leak-aw2-0-somewhat-confirmed-t3417669
The first link is confirmation from your own support. The other is a commercial advertising the watch with aw2.0 10:45:37 am
In the first post you can find several links to ad's, articles and other that hints the upgrade. Can you understand the confusion? 10:46:19 am
.. but the confusion start spreading around page 5
Didrik F 10:48:41 am
I can understand the confusion, but currently the Smartwatch 3 only supports Android Wear 1.5 and we currently don't have any information about it possibly getting the newest update to Android Wear 2.0.
Didrik F 10:50:48 am
I can see that you were in contact with the XDA-forum, which we do not have any direct contact with. So I can neither confirm or deny what they are telling you.
Claus 10:53:44 am
Those are dedicated users THAT IS QUOTING EMAILS from both your english and french support stating that the watch will get updated to Android Wear 2.0.. It is not XDA telling me that it will.. It is users quoting mails from your own support. Untill you suddenly backpedaled a few days ago.. Something tells me that you had unforseen beef with google, but you wont admit it.
We just want what was hinted to us in both support-mails and ads (which admittedly was taken down again, but well documented). Its not to be rough, but I smell a class-action lawsuit incoming. 10:54:52 am
You have some VERY dedicated customers. And it doesn't quite seem like you know how oustanding a product your watches really is compared to the market. You should really embrace this niche. 10:55:57 am
Didrik F 10:56:42 am
I'm sorry, but as I said, we currently don't have any more information about Android Wear 2.0 and if it will be released to Smartwatch 3.
Claus 10:57:17 am
Ok.. And the earlier mails from your english and french support was a mistake, or?
And one last thing.. I reached out via mail support several times, but haven't got and answer: The swr510c adapter, briefly on the market in japan, will that be back in stock? Either in japan or elsewhere on the globe? 10:59:14 am
https://www.amazon.com/Sony-SWR510C-Wrist-Holder-SmartWatch/dp/B017YHTYKI 11:00:04 am
A piece of plastic, currently going on ebay for same as the price of the watch.. So I think its sought for.
Didrik F 11:02:56 am
As we are only the support for the Nordic market, I cannot answer questions about the other countries markets. If you want information about when items will be in stock in our E-store, I suggest that you contact our E-store support.
Contact info: https://sonyestore.zendesk.com/hc/sv/articles/205363242-Kundtjänst
Claus 11:02:58 am
The metal band sells for 300 dollars, this piece of plastic for 150.. You treat the watch as a foster-baby, and don't see how dedictated a user base and how well made a product you actually have.
But thanks for nothing I guess.. 11:03:31 am
Didrik F 11:03:47 am
Sorry, I gave you the wrong link. https://sonyestore.zendesk.com/hc/sv/articles/205363242-Kundtjänst is the correct one.
Is there anything else I can help you with right now?
Claus 11:04:53 am
Yeah... I might actually need some contact to the support/estore for japan, to get answered if it will be back in stock there.
Didrik F 11:07:27 am
If you have a market-specific question I can only ask you to contact that specific market. We have no direct E-mail adress or phone-number to them. The best I can do is to send you a link to the Japanese website, which is in japanese.
Claus 11:08:33 am
Ok.. Then again.. Thanks for nothing and have a nice weekend.. I have the PS4, Sony mobile, 55" TV and a watch.. Will consider my future engagement in the light of this.
Didrik F 11:08:46 am
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support! Have a nice day!
If you need more information regarding our products, please visit www.sonymobile.com
The most I can suggest is wait for MWC if Sony doesnt unveil a new SW4 then there is still a chance that we could get AW2.0. On most sites they only say that the moto 360 and lg r watch arent getting it because they are 2014 devices with no wifi or NFC but they don't say anything about SW3. Dont forget SW3 is Sonys only android wear watch. Either it gets the update or they make SW4. Lets just wait till MWC I cant see what the point of making an SW4 would be at the moment. Most if not all watches have basically the exact same specs as SW3. I even compared our watch with the 2015 Huawei watch and we actually have a bigger screen, mor mah on the battery and NFC. Yet the Huawei watch gets the Dev preview. I think maybe it could be because the SW3 isnt as expensive as most other watches and is seemed less premium and more as a sports watch. I dont like that because it can still be a nice looking watch with the right strap. Im just trying to work my head round it. Its really is like KK on the SP again.
Contacting Sony Support is kind of pointless because you will find in different regions they will tell you different things. In one place they will say yeah well get it and in another no we wont. Its the same with their bravia support because me and a few others have been contacting them about HDR which they now claim on their site our TV has but it only does something with the content through USB. So yeah its not Sony I think you should be blaming but Google as Sony wanna be first to issue 7.1 as an oem and theyre still supporting their 2015 bravias which is good. They also still support their own old consoles too. I think we should be contacting God damn Google not Sony. Google even killed off all snapdragon 801 devices by refusing to support vulkan with the chip. The snap 801 device are really good too. Google refuse to do the drives for them. SCREW GOOGLE!!! Theyre the ones to blame if we dont get the update.
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https://www.change.org/p/sony-andro...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
Sign this maybe they might do something.
The main problem I think is the design of the SW3 Android 2 uses the crown ? wheel for many functions
coffer said:
The main problem I think is the design of the SW3 Android 2 uses the crown wheel for many functions
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all the old watches that get updated don´t have a crown either
Hi Folks,
As you know, there are lot meet ups happening in India for Honor/Huawei users, currently for Honor 6X and Honor 8 Pro only, but we may see these coming to other devices as well based on the response. It may be limited for older devices where software support is not possible but eventually newer devices like, Honor 5C, Honor 8, Honor 6X and honor 8 pro would be included (if they get more requests for 5C and 8).
In this thread, lets discuss on various points/feedback and feature request that we want to raise it to the Honor teams during meetup and eventually taken up to the R&D team for consideration to enhance the end user experience in a positive way.
Anybody attending these meet ups with Honor team can put forward these points and we wish these points will be considered to provide a happy and positive user experience.
Creating a thread in Honor 8 Pro section as well so that 8 pro user can fill their points there and we can refer any of these thread for unique points to proceed with.
8 Pro Thread
Good luck.
Attached is the list of point raised during Honor meet up in Chennai and compiled by our fellow member @amulbaby (Abhishek)
View attachment Points_from_Chennai_Meet-up.pdf
8 pro thread- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/feature-request-feedback-upcoming-emui-t3669807
As we already discussed on other thread few of the points
removal of knuckle feature
camera lag on EMUI 5 (while opening only)
Over exposed image while using front camera
timely Kernel sources for all the device
Double tap to wake up
uniform OTA acorss all devices
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @VenuGopalu077 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby add other if I missed anyone.
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
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Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
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Well to be perfectly honest after owning 2 H5x and an Honor 8 I have no intentions of ever owning another Honor device.
The company has all but abandon it's past phone owners and all their interested in is you buying their next phone.
Their is no reason to back or support Honor and all their broken promises. The don't even respect their own employees
and they for Damn sure never listen to the Users request and feedback.
At the prices they are charging for their devices you could be using a LG G6 / HTC 10 / ZTE axon a Nokia 6 or any number of Moto or samsung phones (My kids Galaxy S8 plus was $525 with trade in and just $24 a month with samsung financing)
clsA said:
Well to be perfectly honest after owning 2 H5x and an Honor 8 I have no intentions of ever owning another Honor device.
The company has all but abandon it's past phone owners and all their interested in is you buying their next phone.
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A transparent and open feedback mate :good:
First of all, thanks for asking my opinion about. I've read the PDF file attached and i found it very interesting. Plus, seeing such a relationship between OEM and customers is great. That's how things should always be.
Aside what has been already told, and the thing which i agree most is the uniformity of updates on all devices to ensure a quality performance to every device, I'd suggest to being more developer friendly (don't worry, I've already seen that in the points declared above, the release of kernel sources in time is already there). You shouldn't leave developers with tied hands, and anyway the device would be always bought from Huawei/Honor, so why mind too much at which OS will run on the phone? I buy the phone for hardware characteristics overall, what matters for real is that the user would feel free to do whatever it wants with the phone, once that it has been payed. Next; ensuring a stable security patch update without having to download the full package would be nice third: things like NFC chip present in the device but disabled in some countries (luckily I'm not one of the involved) should never happens. I understand about the call recording because some countries take it easier compared to others, but i think that the NFC technology is the same (or almost) in every country, so why disable it?
As i'll remind other features, I'll come back to speak about them. At the moment nothing else to say
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First of all, thanks for asking my opinion about.
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Coz i knew, you will definitely provide feedback and a honest and useful one.
RedSkull23 said:
ensuring a stable security patch update without having to download the full package would be nice third: things like NFC chip present in the device but disabled in some countries (luckily I'm not one of the involved) should never happens. I understand about the call recording because some countries take it easier compared to others, but i think that the NFC technology is the same (or almost) in every country, so why disable it?
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Exactly mate. Thats why i said uniform OTA and similar EMUI for all variants if they use same hardware. Also OTA can be same across all devices.
First of all i want to say that honor is doing a good act.. Tgis meetup thing is very positive but i want them to really implement this and the results should be positive..
1. Double tap to wakeup on kirin based devices
2. Quick and firm OTA updates for all regions as i feel that Pakistan region is ignored and dont get updates fasters.
3. Should provide 2 major upgrades on a device.. Means 2 year full support.
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Coz i knew, you will definitely provide feedback and a honest and useful one.
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Wow, thanks again man
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Exactly mate. Thats why i said uniform OTA and similar EMUI for all variants if they use same hardware. Also OTA can be same across all devices.
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Would be both a work in less to do by them, and a better way to communicate with other devices and so developing a more synergetic compatibility with various devices by the same OEM. Sounds more like something futuristic however ahahah. Jokes aside, some model surely has and will have particular features that are present only in models that the hardware would permit, like more options for a better shot on camera as an hypothesis. Then it'd be sufficient to add in the OS some strings as "show this option if camera sensor x is true" and "show not this option if camera sensor x is false" or something like that, like some apps and OS already do from many time (like Greenify and the alternative lock-screen option that is shown if is a fingerprint sensor is detected, in example).
I have two things to speak about:
1- honor made their devices totally hard to unlock and even harder to recover if bricked, I was wondering why they won't make it easy like Oneplus or Google?!
2- is about EMUI, I want Huawei to leave the lockscreen and notification panel just what Google intended (they can skin it however they)
The way how EMUI handle notification and lockscreen notifications is pretty bad.
I want them to fix these two points, and if they still continue with that.
I'm seriously going to sell my honor 8 and get Xiaomi mi A1
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I have two things to speak about:
1- honor made their devices totally hard to unlock and even harder to recover if bricked, I was wondering why they won't make it easy like Oneplus or Google?!
2- is about EMUI, I want Huawei to leave the lockscreen and notification panel just what Google intended (they can skin it however they)
The way how EMUI handle notification and lockscreen notifications is pretty bad.
I want them to fix these two points, and if they still continue with that.
I'm seriously going to sell my honor 8 and get Xiaomi mi A1
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Absolutely. The notification on lock screen is pretty bad and need to unlock to see them properly
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You said it could come to 5c if there are more requests. How do I request?
arshilhonor6x said:
stock Ui
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I wish for this too but, it's hard for his to ditch EMUI
fishnchips2 said:
You said it could come to 5c if there are more requests. How do I request?
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By filling the form. But as of now, i am sure they will just go to honor 8 apart from 6X and 8 pro. You cam still try
shashank1320 said:
By filling the form. But as of now, i am sure they will just go to honor 8 apart from 6X and 8 pro. You cam still try
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Sorry which form? Am I being dumb?
Hallo buddies. I hoped to unlock my bootloader (PIC-LX9). But I received the following answer from the huawei support:
Oct 12, 14:12 CEST
Good day...,
Thank you very much for asking our question to our e-mail support. With the Huawei Nova 2 Plus you have really bought a great smartphone and it will certainly give you a lot of fun.
I understand that you would like to use the Bootloader Unlock Code for your device. Also that you are used to it from the past. However, since the service has now been discontinued, use is no longer possible. The decision to end this service was not easy. But considering against the background that it came to increased paid servicing cases, we acted here in the sense of our customers. I hope I could answer your question satisfactorily.
If you have any further questions, I am glad that you write me again and until then I wish you a nice Friday and a sunny weekend!
With best regards
Jessica Krupp
Huawei Customer Service Team
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So far there is no further need to root the device. But the Nova 2 Plus is probably no longer supplied with new Android versions (for example Pie). The Nova 2 Plus is a good mid-range mobile phone. and not exactly cheap. It is hard to understand why it will be 'out of date' after just one year.
And that without the possibility to flash other comstume roms.
Have one a solution? For example a code like the safestrape for Motorola Omap4 devices? (The Moto is my second phone with crDroid in daily use.) from developer stargo (I believe).
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True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
I strongly disagree with you, how does Xiaomi have enough resources to build MIUI 11? In fact Xiaomi has also released MIUI11 based Android 10 updates, if they have enough resources for them then they definitely work on Android One phones too.
Another thing: The reason Android One phones are supposed to get updates faster is manufacturers don't need to modify the OS much as compared to their own flavour (MIUI).
If they don't have enough resources they should not produce a Android One phone at first place. The MI A3 community is not being impatient, the update is quite late already, clearly there is no benefit of this phone having Android One program.
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True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
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No brother, users are NOT getting what they paid for. Faster updates was one of the main selling point of this Phone, clearly Xiaomi has no interest in their Android One devices, their priority has always been phones with MIUI. And yes, NOT everyone has enough technical knowledge to flash custom roms.
zenkhas said:
I strongly disagree with you, how does Xiaomi have enough resources to build MIUI 11? In fact Xiaomi has also released MIUI11 based Android 10 updates, if they have enough resources for them then they definitely work on Android One phones too.
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
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Another thing: The reason Android One phones are supposed to get updates faster is manufacturers don't need to modify the OS much as compared to their own flavour (MIUI).
If they don't have enough resources they should not produce a Android One phone at first place. The MI A3 community is not being impatient, the update is quite late already, clearly there is no benefit of this phone having Android One program.
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And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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Well, I'm not sure about mid-range devices which have received Android 10 update, but If you go to Android One's website, their title says "Secure, up-to-date and easy to use", but unfortunately our devices have been outdated for quite a while now. Simple.
But yes, we can't do anything but to wait.
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Well, I'm not sure about mid-range devices which have received Android 10 update, but If you go to Android One's website, their title says "Secure, up-to-date and easy to use", but unfortunately our devices have been outdated for quite a while now. Simple.
But yes, we can't do anything but to wait.
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Outdated? We have patch from 5th December and we're in the middle of January. Sounds pretty up-to- date to me. Don't confuse the latest Android version with the latest security patch - Android One is primarily about monthly security updates. 2 Android version upgrades are a nice bonus, but with no guaranteed time frame when is it going to be received.
Fuuuuuu
zenkhas said:
No brother, users are NOT getting what they paid for. Faster updates was one of the main selling point of this Phone, clearly Xiaomi has no interest in their Android One devices, their priority has always been phones with MIUI. And yes, NOT everyone has enough technical knowledge to flash custom roms.
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Xiaomi never said it will release faster update, they just said Android One provides a simple, clean UI, providing 2 yrs of software update and 3 yrs of security update only.
If they had no interest on A series phone then why they joined Android One program and manufacturing a widely successful Mi A1 in the first place? They put priority to MIUI phones because MIUI has ads in it, Xiaomi makes money from them, whereas Android One, Xiaomi didn't make any money at all. Then why they keep making Android One phones? Just because users love clean Android, that is something you can't beat with.
Our community provides a large numbers of tutorials on how unlock bootloader/root/install custom ROM, so many of you shouldn't have any difficulties, in case if they have so, our community members will be nice enough to help them find/ solve their difficulties.
m4RinKo2 said:
Spolier: this is a rant about the community and their impatience.
Ever since I bought the device 3 months ago, I immediately started searching for ROMs and Telegram groups, etc. And all the time I was seeing people spamming threads, groups and even official Xiaomi Twitter page with questions about the update and such. Some also contacted the customer support and asked them about the update, although the customer support doesn't have any idea about it. And I saw a tweet from Mi India that the update will come mid February. Most replies to that were like: "**** you xiaomi, I will never buy your phone again, you disappointed your customers....".
First of all, it was never said on the Android One page nor the Mi A3 page that the updates will be immediate.
Secondly, building and polishing an Android update to maybe millions of devices costs money and time. I'm not saying that we will get a bug free update, but something probably close to. You can't expect from a company that releases new phones every month with minimal profit margins to push updates so fast. Some flagships still didn't get the update, but their price was 2 or 3 times bigger. You get what you pay for. Appreciate that you have a really nice phone for nothing basically.
Lastly, that behavior is cancerous. Being angry at a company for not fullfiling all of your expectations is your problem. Rather than spamming groups and whatnot, spend some time finding phones that suit you better or find devs that you can donate to. Send them a dollar or two so that they can pay their building servers and drink coffee while removing bugs with no logs.
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For your opinion must waiting on september.few days befor release android 11.
This is not android one my friend is meizu rom.
The most of miui took android 10 and xiaomi forget the vanila android.
This is the truth.
Is the last time buy xiaomi smartphone.never i will buy again this brand.
I have delete until now 3 brands.
Apple motorola xiaomi.
This phone has easy to unlock the boot loader and a bunch of custom ROMs. Go over to the other forums for other phones. It's crickets on the dev side.
Clean Android: good. If mi 9 had it I would jump on one. A month or two delay over the life of the phone is not a huge deal.
I have used 2 Android One phones recently. And they were soo cheap phones. Now I have the Mi A3 and this phone is more expensive than the others. (In Android One category)
And these phones updated very fast. Beta tests begin 1 week after the beta release for Pixel phones. So Android One program means an early update to me. If the update will be late why did I bought this phone?
But there is a point to mention. Another android one phone that I have purchased at the same time with A3, didn't receive Android 10 eighter. There could be a problem with the Google maybe?
i agree with you friend but please explain why A2 got update before A3?
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And in your first point there was a promise, refer to mannu jain tweet. What is the meaning of "One of the first few device" if 2 year old nokia phone got an update, and Samsung cheap phone also received it and motorola too. Then what is the meaning of that tweet, please explain it too sir.
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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Nokia 7.1, motorola one action
It’s just a typical way of thinking of those who had very few or even no knowledge about how programming and the software development process works…
Keep dumping pressure to devs only makes things worse.
It's like torque down the wheel nuts without even using a proper torque wrench; imagine if a guy was hurrying tightening down the nuts by bare hands. The wheels nuts can be loosened up and fall off the car! How safe would that be? Same applies for software development, if they rushed for an update, it can be buggy as hell, who knows!
So “Patience” is definitely the key, I had the same experience with A2 last year, where people just kept begging for Android 9 update. Xiaomi rushed, and pushes out buggy update like battery drain, inconsistent UI, and more severe, bootloop in its Jan update. Now, A2 got android 10 update doesn't mean it is better, it can have bugs like UI, bluetooth, slow charging bugs. It's a last major software update for A2, Xiaomi can rush the update, can't they? I know in Xiaomi website it said "Android one provides up-to-date software experience", but there's the fact that nothing is absolute. The update can be delayed for whatever reason.
The A3 is a cheap, budget, yet mid-range phone and people still want to interpret it as a “flagship” phone. Although this is an Android One phone, Xiaomi still need to fix bugs and add their own custom features. That would generally take some times for the completion, that doesn’t even count for fixing various bugs. Even though Motorola, Nokia phones get Android 10, it’s just depends on certain devs. They can be more productive than us.
Even more surprising, when Xiaomi india replied a tweet at twitter saying that android 10 will arrive on mid-Feb. People are screwed... they f**k Xiaomi and said that they won’t buy their phone again. Well, I feel quite miserable on why are people so impatient and complaining so much, seriously.
That is all I want to say, and I don’t want to dump any more time in this weird tragedy. If you disagree with me, feel free to blame, swear, or report to me. But the Fact that 'the arrival of Android 10 has no exact date' is going to Never change! So please, stop complaining about the update.
Thanks Captain!
m4RinKo2 said:
Spolier: this is a rant about the community and their impatience.
Ever since I bought the device 3 months ago, I immediately started searching for ROMs and Telegram groups, etc. And all the time I was seeing people spamming threads, groups and even official Xiaomi Twitter page with questions about the update and such. Some also contacted the customer support and asked them about the update, although the customer support doesn't have any idea about it. And I saw a tweet from Mi India that the update will come mid February. Most replies to that were like: "**** you xiaomi, I will never buy your phone again, you disappointed your customers....".
First of all, it was never said on the page that the updates will be immediate.
Secondly, building and polishing an Android update to maybe millions of devices costs money and time. I'm not saying that we will get a bug free update, but something probably close to. You can't expect from a company that releases new phones every month with minimal profit margins to push updates so fast. Some flagships still didn't get the update, but their price was 2 or 3 times bigger. You get what you pay for. Appreciate that you have a really nice phone for nothing basically.
Lastly, that behavior is cancerous. Being angry at a company for not fullfiling all of your expectations is your problem. Rather than spamming groups and whatnot, spend some time finding phones that suit you better or find devs that you can donate to. Send them a dollar or two so that they can pay their building servers and drink coffee while removing bugs with no logs.
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Thank you for this Post! got already tired of people complaining about a good, cheap phone whose dev's are taking care of a bug free release first instead of rushing things. The A3 is working purrrfeect for what you pay <3
From my point of view thinking of that mi A3 has some type of priority is as foolish as of believing that this extra time (Chinese New year) will mean a more polished and refined rom.
I think someone should learn what Android One means before starting to make a thread.
MarcusMario0605 said:
Xiaomi never said it will release faster update, they just said Android One provides a simple, clean UI, providing 2 yrs of software update and 3 yrs of security update only.
If they had no interest on A series phone then why they joined Android One program and manufacturing a widely successful Mi A1 in the first place? They put priority to MIUI phones because MIUI has ads in it, Xiaomi makes money from them, whereas Android One, Xiaomi didn't make any money at all. Then why they keep making Android One phones? Just because users love clean Android, that is something you can't beat with.
Our community provides a large numbers of tutorials on how unlock bootloader/root/install custom ROM, so many of you shouldn't have any difficulties, in case if they have so, our community members will be nice enough to help them find/ solve their difficulties.
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Thats completely untrue. Xiaomi have made alluded to faster android upgrades for their Android One phones. And sometimes even made direct statements on that issue - one statement was from Manu (India's VP) saying "Mi A3 is going to be one of the first few devices to get Android Q".
After all the hype about faster updates from their fanbase, now you've amazingly said Xiaomi never promised anything at all! How very Trumpian of you.
And now you've made some more incredible statements like Xiaomi is only producing Android one phones because they have to, not because they actually want to, and Xiaomi don't make any money at all on these phones. No facts, no figures, just an outright assertion.
Customs roms are nice but it has no bearing on this issue. These roms are generally not vetted, tested, checked to see if they are stable and free from malware.
MarcusMario0605 said:
True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
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Bro, would like to disagree with you here. If in the end we have to choose a custom rom, then why would I buy an Android One device. I could simply buy a MiUI based Xiaomi device and simply install custom rom (Probably that's what the Xiaomi wants). The other reason people prefer Android One device is to get rid of complications a custom rom develop.
Secondly, there's no hiding away from the fact that update is delayed for whatever reason may it be. Both the parties are at fault, I agree lots of people are baby shouting about Android 10 but the fact is and will be is that the update has been delayed. And for this no one is blaming developers. I always respect the developers. They work behind the scenes without getting applaused. But the anger of people is over Xiaomi not the developers. The fact is people showing here as if they care for developrs are actually diverting the company's fault to developrs. Xiaomi aren't focusing on Android One with majority of developers assigned to MiUI. And this device is not the one which has been sold less. This is one of the best selling phones. It offering a lot at this price.
Manu (India's VP) saying "Mi A3 is going to be one of the first few devices to get Android Q".
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Typical non-committal language - just consider how many vendors and devices are out there - if the Mi A3 gets Android 10 in March 2020, it might very well be part of the "first few devices". In short, there is no reason to assume Mr. Manu wasn't being truthful at the time of tweeting this (back in Aug 2019). That is what he was led to believe then.
Xiaomi should be a bit more open about the roadmap/update progress, to ease everyone's mind.
As we discussed xxxx I decided to prepare the bounty for anyone who will unlock 5G support for most/all countries. Feel free to support it (because Google doesn't want to...). You can find it there:
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Introduction and details are either in link or below in citation.
Hello everyone! I'm Sebastian and I'm part of XDA Community since 2010 (XDA profile)
Actually, It's not the first time I tried to encourage people to donate for anyone who will make a modification for an Android phone: Back in 2012 as LG 4X community we tried to either force LG to unlock bootloader by petitions or collect a bounty for possible developer who would do that unofficially.
Ten years passed and again me and other people faced a problem with a company which blocks the features on a phone for no reason. This time it's 5G for Pixel 6 (Pro), codename oriole/raven. My carrier (Orange Poland) uses basically the same 5G band/parameters as Magenta Austria (which is officially supported) and I can't use 5G because Google doesn't allow me just because. This is sad and disgusting.
For now at least we have working VoLTE/VoWiFi Magisk module which can be found here but that's it. Tensor SoC makes things even worse, because previous Pixels could be unlocked via Qualcomm tools.
I've tried to reach a few modders/devs by myself but either they have no idea or don't care...so I hope that money would be the best motivator
Okay, so now simple rules:
- All collected money goes to the person who will share a working software mod (Magisk/Xposed module, modem patch or whatever works), either for me on private message on XDA (and then we can share it for private testing for the ones who donated) or just share for public testing on XDA thread
Then after either private or public tests, bounty gets finished and the money will be sent.
- If we don't succeed or Google will come with official solution (doubt), I will cancel this campaign and contact the support to force the refund. In case of any problems, I recommend to leave any contact (email) while you donate to this bounty.
Also keep in mind that the modification will most likely require unlocked bootloader and/or root (although the less invasive solution, the better.
PS: Feel free to spam Google about that abomination here or other Support Google threads. It's time to them to finally explain to us why we can't use Pixel phones' features even if they are supported.
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thanks for setting this up
Thanks Sebastian!
Already donated. Hope the campaign will succeed.
If the campaign fails, what happens to the money raised?
I think it's woth noting on your post.
itamargs said:
Thanks Sebastian!
Already donated. Hope the campaign will succeed.
If the campaign fails, what happens to the money raised?
I think it's woth noting on your post.
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I will delete/cancel it and contact support to force the refund. Also if anyone has any doubts, he can suggest me how i could "authenticate" myself even more. I'm here for 12 years already and had a history with mods, TWRP and custom ROMs, I have not violated anyone's trust.
Edit: added description on campaign site, I will polish this thread a little after I take my PC
Edit2: Okay, everything is done. I'm about to make a thread on Oriole section as well as make some posts in threads related to 5G which I was looking on. Might try to share the info on some Telegram groups too
Have to consider your carrier's coverage, what bands they use for 5g and if they have a band whitelist just connecting to any 5g band won't do jack for you
maxius4 said:
Have to consider your carrier's coverage, what bands they use for 5g and if they have a band whitelist just connecting to any 5g band won't do jack for you
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Well, I have an 5G antenna around 10m from my flat... I talked with my carrier about it, they tried to do anything but they couldn't. It's only Google's fault, every other manufacturer somehow supports 5G when modem supports it, but Google just won't do that.
I have also donated, fingers crossed this will eventually work. Thank you for your work!
reas0n said:
Well, I have an 5G antenna around 10m from my flat... I talked with my carrier about it, they tried to do anything but they couldn't. It's only Google's fault, every other manufacturer somehow supports 5G when modem supports it, but Google just won't do that.
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Have to take into account this is more a carrier issue than googles, the issue is you not buying the phone from them but from Google and they are not going to go out of their way to support a phone that was not purchased from them
Thank you. You should also be posting same on pixel 6 forums to get more attention.
maxius4 said:
Have to take into account this is more a carrier issue than googles, the issue is you not buying the phone from them but from Google and they are not going to go out of their way to support a phone that was not purchased from them
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Google doesn't even sell P6 in Poland. Also as I said in description: hardware supports it, my carrier uses same band/frequency as other carrier in Austria which is supported. If you still don't believe: take a look on Pixel 5 forums, they have a 5G unlock with Qualcomm tools. 100% it's Google's stupidity.
In the past I bought some Chinese phones and with global ROM they just worked..
The issue is the carrier and Google can not sell a phone with everything unlocked as it would run across a world of hurt from every country's on earth regulators that deal with spectrum use. Sure you can "unlock" it but with age of a phone comes vulnerabilities and fw updates to fix issues also your carrier / someone may care more than you want them to about you essentially breaking your country's communications/spectrum laws. Honestly, is it really worth all the trouble to make it work how you want it to or get a phone from your carrier with the support you want?
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