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Car/Wall usb charging question

Hi guys,
I have a question regarding charging. Just bought the 5X recently and man, I had no idea of how many options were out there to charge your phone. Basically I have the OEM wall charger that came in the package. Now Im shopping for a regular USB to type C cable. I had a car charger in my car that I used to charge my Nexus 4 in but correct me if im wrong, it wont charge as quick since it probably doesn't support 2.1A, right? I saw this one on ebay and was even more confused.....
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/5-1A-5V-3-Po...514908?hash=item2eeac8aa1c:g:CnwAAOSwGotWnyhR
So if I charge in the 1.0A or 2.0A, it wont charge as quick and be like a regular charger? and if I use the 2.1A, it will do the fast charging???? So confused here.........

You will only get fast charging from a charger that supports it.
Your computer and current car charger will charge "slowly". Make sure you buy a usb c cable that meets usb c specs.

Darke5tShad0w said:
You will only get fast charging from a charger that supports it.
Your computer and current car charger will charge "slowly". Make sure you buy a usb c cable that meets usb c specs.
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My OEM wall charger that came with the package does fast charging. Theyre rated at 3.0A
Ive already ordered the USB C cable, and its 2.0A, what are max speeds the 5x needs for fast charging?
Heres the cable I ordered
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/161918773991...49&var=460879113479&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
So Im assuming for the car charger that I posted above, I can use the 3.0 slot for my phone then to fast charge and the others do charge normally, however long that takes.

phone_noobie said:
My OEM wall charger that came with the package does fast charging. Theyre rated at 3.0A
Ive already ordered the USB C cable, and its 2.0A, what are max speeds the 5x needs for fast charging?
Heres the cable I ordered
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/161918773991...49&var=460879113479&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
So Im assuming for the car charger that I posted above, I can use the 3.0 slot for my phone then to fast charge and the others do charge normally, however long that takes.
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There is no usb 3.0 slot on the charger.
While it can output 5A it may not comply with the fast charging the 5x uses.
You will need to try it and see.
Heres a little bit of info
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
I myself will be interested if it works.

Darke5tShad0w said:
There is no usb 3.0 slot on the charger.
While it can output 5A it may not comply with the fast charging the 5x uses.
You will need to try it and see.
Heres a little bit of info
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/
I myself will be interested if it works.
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hmm interesting, im starting to get what is needed and how this whole fast charging happens. So I looked on ebay and came across this
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Tronsmart-5V...300586?hash=item2a61f87a2a:g:P5IAAOSwezVWysaM
I assume this would work with whats mentioned in the article you posted. But the cable I ordered says 2.0 so Im not sure if that will not let it fast charge in the car?
Is there anyways of seeing when the phone is being fast charged, how much voltage or amps are going through, etc..? Like is there any app I can try? I did come across one called Ampere but I have no idea how to read that.

phone_noobie said:
hmm interesting, im starting to get what is needed and how this whole fast charging happens. So I looked on ebay and came across this
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Tronsmart-5V...300586?hash=item2a61f87a2a:g:P5IAAOSwezVWysaM
I assume this would work with whats mentioned in the article you posted. But the cable I ordered says 2.0 so Im not sure if that will not let it fast charge in the car?
Is there anyways of seeing when the phone is being fast charged, how much voltage or amps are going through, etc..? Like is there any app I can try? I did come across one called Ampere but I have no idea how to read that.
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Yea, you can use "Ampere" to measure the rate of charge. Coincidentally, Android Central just wrote about this app this weekend:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ask-ac-can-i-use-qualcomm-quick-charger-my-usb-c-nexus-phone
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Can i use VOOC 5V-5A Charger?

Hello friends, in my country there is no Dash charger from official oneplus. but there are some oppo's vooc charger available. as far as I know vooc charger works in 1+3.
and there are two types of charger from oppo.
1. 5v-4a (same as dash charger)
2. 5v-5a
so if I use the 5v-5a charger would it harm my device? would you recommend it?
thanks in advance

Your device takes what it needs.

Demian3112 said:
Your device takes what it needs.
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so would it be able to dash charge my phone?
I meant this charger.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32683977313.html

the one that you posted is a normal micro usb charger

unrated87 said:
the one that you posted is a normal micro usb charger
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link edited, my apologies

Yes u can use VOOC charger as dash charger, you only need to convert the cable end, from micro to usb C
Am using VOOC powerbank (batt pack) with usb c converter, and it charge my OP3 in dash speed (3000++mAh charging rate)

otonieru said:
Yes u can use VOOC charger as dash charger, you only need to convert the cable end, from micro to usb C
Am using VOOC powerbank (batt pack) with usb c converter, and it charge my OP3 in dash speed (3000++mAh charging rate)
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any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks

ShiShTuBaBu said:
any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
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I only have ecommerce link in my country,
You can try amazon, but you also can grab one from samsung

So, it's this 1$? Or what? If it's same price or similar, take Dash charger + Cable.

null0seven said:
So, it's this 1$? Or what? If it's same price or similar, take Dash charger + Cable.
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You read the op,
Official dash not avail in his country, else he would already bought one

But he got the phone...

ShiShTuBaBu said:
any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
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I'm afraid using an adapter would kill your charging speed (reduce to normal speeds).
You need compatible cable for DASH/VOOC speeds - mainly because they are thicker than normal ones. Well, any standard micro USB to Type-C is not designed for such high amperage and it becomes the weak link here. The phone will think you're using a normal cable and won't pull more than 1.5A through.
Tl;dr: you need a DASH/VOOC Type-C cable, no adapters.
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null0seven said:
But he got the phone...
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I bought only the phone from... think... Blackmarket with lesser price

Explorer23 said:
I'm afraid using an adapter would kill your charging speed (reduce to normal speeds).
You need compatible cable for DASH/VOOC speeds - mainly because they are thicker than normal ones. Well, any standard micro USB to Type-C is not designed for such high amperage and it becomes the weak link here. The phone will think you're using a normal cable and won't pull more than 1.5A through.
Tl;dr: you need a DASH/VOOC Type-C cable, no adapters.
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yes, I was also thinking the same, but some one commented that he was ablble to get dash speed.

ShiShTuBaBu said:
yes, I was also thinking the same, but some one commented that he was ablble to get dash speed.
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I would rather not use that even if it works, you risk frying something.
Those adapters are designed fur 1A, not 4 ... That's a huge difference.
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Explorer23 said:
I would rather not use that even if it works, you risk frying something.
Those adapters are designed fur 1A, not 4 ... That's a huge difference.
Sent from my OnePlus 3 using Tapatalk
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yeah, I am going for vooc 5v-4a, though its tough to get the cable. I need to order in aliexpress.

ShiShTuBaBu said:
yeah, I am going for vooc 5v-4a, though its tough to get the cable. I need to order in aliexpress.
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This it's fun.
Why don't you order dash charger+dash cable, from aliexpress. I order it. 26$. Hope i wil get it this year...

null0seven said:
This it's fun.
Why don't you order dash charger+dash cable, from aliexpress. I order it. 26$. Hope i wil get it this year...
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I don't have any charger actually, I use my laptop to charge it which is very slow, and I don't want my laptop on for whole night. so I needed a charger badly. as there is no dash cable here I have to order it and as for now have to use the ordinary usb-c cable for the phone.

You can use any wall charger with 1a, 2a. It will not charge Fast as Dash, but faster than the laptop.

Where to buy a replacement charger !?

My charger broke can anyone recommend where to get a replacement please. Google apparently sells them for at least 30 pounds. Can anyone please recommend a cheaper alternative which does work in terms of fast charging please?

Try Amazon

Try to by the lg nexus 5x it worked for me very well and im having a fast charging just like its original and to be honest from 30% to 90% in just 30 mn

jounes said:
Try to by the lg nexus 5x it worked for me very well and im having a fast charging just like its original and to be honest from 30% to 90% in just 30 mn
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Any idea where to buy it please?

marvi0 said:
Any idea where to buy it please?
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Well in my country algeria i found it in a store. So maybe you can check those who have phone stores. By the way it look like this hope this helps bro

Get any USB-C cable and plug it into any USB power adapter.

Thanks guys will try and have a look at Amazon.

jimv1983 said:
Get any USB-C cable and plug it into any USB power adapter.
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Not all type c provides fast charg it needs to be type c to c also capable to provide above 15w (5v * 3A)

Yes this. Although, my Nexus 5X one which is 5v3a does fast charge pretty much the same as the stock Px8el 2 XL one. The Pixel 2 XL has been restricted and doesn't take advantage of it's 9v2a charger rating.
jounes said:
Not all type c provides fast charg it needs to be type c to c also capable to provide above 15w (5v * 3A)
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marvi0 said:
My charger broke can anyone recommend where to get a replacement please. Google apparently sells them for at least 30 pounds. Can anyone please recommend a cheaper alternative which does work in terms of fast charging please?
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You either just paid or are in the process of paying off a near $1,000US (£750) device. Do you really want to risk damage to your home or the device because you want to save a pound?
Spend the £30 or so and get the correct charger.

Have you tried asking Google for a replacement charger under warranty?

https://goo.gl/oZTLDF
this one should work

paulyz said:
https://goo.gl/oZTLDF
this one should work
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Thanks will check it out.

jounes said:
Not all type c provides fast charg it needs to be type c to c also capable to provide above 15w (5v * 3A)
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True but any 15w USB power adapter and a USB-C cable should do the job just fine. It's never been an issue for me.

jimv1983 said:
True but any 15w USB power adapter and a USB-C cable should do the job just fine. It's never been an issue for me.
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Not all USB-C cables are the same. The one we need has to be at least USB-C 2.0. The effects from using the wrong spec cable are unknown to me, but I'm not about to find out either. The potential for damaging the device is why I spent the extra money and got an Anker 6' cable that matches the specs of the 3' cable included with my charger.

Some good info here.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung

jimv1983 said:
True but any 15w USB power adapter and a USB-C cable should do the job just fine. It's never been an issue for me.
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Yh for sure as long as type a to c can deliver 15w it will do the job but not all type a to c can thats why i recommend type c to c for its capability.

I always go with either Goggle directly or the Anker ones that have PD enabled for faster charging.

Oneplus Warp Cable

Hi Guys and Gals,
Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the Warp cable https://www.oneplus.com/uk/product/oneplus-warp-charge-30-type-c-cable and the normal OnePlus 6 one? I just want to reuse my current charging cable (OnePlus 6) with a Warp Charger (@£29.99) rather than spend £47.40 on a Warp Charger and cable. Any thoughts??

I would guess the cable will be the same, doesn't look any thicker from what I've seen. The actual charger will be the important bit as that's where the circuitry is that stops the phone getting warm as the components which usually cause the heat/slowdown in other phones are in the charger instead.

Thank you

djsubterrain said:
I would guess the cable will be the same, doesn't look any thicker from what I've seen. The actual charger will be the important bit as that's where the circuitry is that stops the phone getting warm as the components which usually cause the heat/slowdown in other phones are in the charger instead.
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I'm using the new wrap power adaptor with my 1+6 cable. The phone says "wrap".:good:

duncanbyy said:
I'm using the new wrap power adaptor with my 1+6 cable. The phone says "wrap".:good:
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You sure it doesn't say "WARP" ?

That's a wrap!

VennligFiende said:
That's a wrap!
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Wrap speed Mr. Data, make it so!

djsubterrain said:
You sure it doesn't say "WARP" ?
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LOL ... the joke is brought to you by my fat thumbs.

mcwarre said:
Hi Guys and Gals,
Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the Warp cable https://www.oneplus.com/uk/product/oneplus-warp-charge-30-type-c-cable and the normal OnePlus 6 one? I just want to reuse my current charging cable (OnePlus 6) with a Warp Charger (@£29.99) rather than spend £47.40 on a Warp Charger and cable. Any thoughts??
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In the U.S. it's only offered with the cable

Just tested with the 7 pro:
Dash Charger + Warp cable = "fast charging"
Warp Charger + Dash cable = "Warp charging"

all my usb-c pd chargers report slower charge speeds than the stock 25w brick.

Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.

cdig said:
Guess we will hear more about this later with ppl with the proper equipment to test this, but i'm just gonna base this off the phone notification.
I'm getting the same estimated charge time using my 30w macbook charger, 60w monoprice usbpd charger, 18w usb-pd anker power bank, as a standard adaptive fast charger I have in the house (15w i think?).
Meanwhile the 25w brick that comes with the phone cuts the time by about 10min or so vs the other options above.
I did read about the 45w situation to be tricky, but this is the first time i've heard about the 25w charger being special in this way.
Would love to see more tests and see if there are 3rd party solutions that can get the full 25w speeds, and maybe the 45w ones.
hopefully its not a oneplus situation where you can only get the best stuff from their own first party chargers.
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Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load

M2Iceman said:
Was reading u need a Type C E cable, whatever that is. I bought a 45W wall charger and still waiting on phone to see what's the deal. Could be the cable you're using that cant handle the load
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I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.

cdig said:
I was thinking about this. I tried the usb-c -usb-c cable that comes with the box on other chargers and sadly this didn't change anything.
Think you need the proper cable and proper PPS configs on the PD brick to get this working.
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Yes you are correct. A special USB-C cable with an embedded chipset (E) is required along with special PPS. At this early stage I'm not certain many (if any) third party vendors meet these requirements. The only safe bet is the Samsung- branded one.

CONFIRMED !
i have a aftermarket 45w home charger and aftermarket 45w power bank.
both WONT charge at 45W, it charging like 15W.
when i plug in the stock 25w charger, it charging faster.

I have an Anker duel charger that has 45W USB C and a USB A. The USB C is rated at 45W and the USB A is rated at 15W. The 25W charges faster than the 45W. (at least what I am seeing)
Good info about the special cable. If we need a special cable... Where do we find it?
I do have to say, it charges fast with the 25W one.
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Ill check mines when the phone comes later today.
But i do remember reading that it used a different voltage/amp set.
Which if the charger doesnt support it. Then it would default to the lower one.
I.e.
If your charger is 5v 9v 12v 15v
But the phone needw 10v
It would default to the 9v.
Cant remember where i read this. But was a prerelease testing

The safe way to go is to use the samsung official chargers, that are precisely tuned for this, I would not risk a brand new somewhat expensive device

What is this telling me? phone says fast charging.
Using an Amazon Basics 60watt PD charger.

Another screen shot

yeah the phone claims it is rated for 10V at 4.5A and most 45W chargers use 15V at 3A, so likely to be nothing on the market fully capable of charging at super speed at the moment.
as for the USB cable it is a subset of USB 3.1 Gen 2, basically you need a cable with a chip in it, that chip allows you to break the 3A limit on standard cables. I've ordered this as I wanted a longer cable for my standard charger and should work with the 45W if I get it down the road. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073RY5JZ3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Now try this with the 25w charger in the box and you should notice shorter charge time remaining in the notification.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZGZUYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S2PCVGB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
the cables i listed are what I use now. I have a 1TB 12.9 ipad pro and picked up these cables to use with its fast pd charging.
this charger:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TC53ZYD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
is not PPS but it does have 9 Volt at 3amps. i tested it with one of my note 10s and the ipad from 10%. im using a 60W anker brick for the ipad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BQJWDRM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the newer ravpower brick charged up much faster. again not pps (pdo) but it is fast in my less than scientific testing.

I'm just gonna use my $200 Samsung pre order credit to buy several oem or 45 watt chargers.
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Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !

Brotuck said:
Ordered the 45 watt charger yesterday from Samsung and it will arrive tomorrow !
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How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.

bp328i said:
How? I ordered one on 8/27/19 and it's not expected to be delivered till 9/26/19. It went out of stock like a day after I ordered. It's not even showing available on Samsung.
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I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express

Brotuck said:
I guess i was very lucky, because checking today at the samsung site told it is sold out again. I did get a confirmation that it is shipped with ups express
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You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.

bp328i said:
You might want to check to make sure you actually got the 45w charger as it's been out of stock since about 8/28 - 8/29.
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No it really is the correct one..

Brotuck said:
No it really is the correct one..
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Different region that might be why.