Hello friends, in my country there is no Dash charger from official oneplus. but there are some oppo's vooc charger available. as far as I know vooc charger works in 1+3.
and there are two types of charger from oppo.
1. 5v-4a (same as dash charger)
2. 5v-5a
so if I use the 5v-5a charger would it harm my device? would you recommend it?
thanks in advance
Your device takes what it needs.
Demian3112 said:
Your device takes what it needs.
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so would it be able to dash charge my phone?
I meant this charger.
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32683977313.html
the one that you posted is a normal micro usb charger
unrated87 said:
the one that you posted is a normal micro usb charger
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link edited, my apologies
Yes u can use VOOC charger as dash charger, you only need to convert the cable end, from micro to usb C
Am using VOOC powerbank (batt pack) with usb c converter, and it charge my OP3 in dash speed (3000++mAh charging rate)
otonieru said:
Yes u can use VOOC charger as dash charger, you only need to convert the cable end, from micro to usb C
Am using VOOC powerbank (batt pack) with usb c converter, and it charge my OP3 in dash speed (3000++mAh charging rate)
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any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
ShiShTuBaBu said:
any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
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I only have ecommerce link in my country,
You can try amazon, but you also can grab one from samsung
So, it's this 1$? Or what? If it's same price or similar, take Dash charger + Cable.
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So, it's this 1$? Or what? If it's same price or similar, take Dash charger + Cable.
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You read the op,
Official dash not avail in his country, else he would already bought one
But he got the phone...
ShiShTuBaBu said:
any link for microusb-usb C converter? thanks
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I'm afraid using an adapter would kill your charging speed (reduce to normal speeds).
You need compatible cable for DASH/VOOC speeds - mainly because they are thicker than normal ones. Well, any standard micro USB to Type-C is not designed for such high amperage and it becomes the weak link here. The phone will think you're using a normal cable and won't pull more than 1.5A through.
Tl;dr: you need a DASH/VOOC Type-C cable, no adapters.
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But he got the phone...
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I bought only the phone from... think... Blackmarket with lesser price
Explorer23 said:
I'm afraid using an adapter would kill your charging speed (reduce to normal speeds).
You need compatible cable for DASH/VOOC speeds - mainly because they are thicker than normal ones. Well, any standard micro USB to Type-C is not designed for such high amperage and it becomes the weak link here. The phone will think you're using a normal cable and won't pull more than 1.5A through.
Tl;dr: you need a DASH/VOOC Type-C cable, no adapters.
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yes, I was also thinking the same, but some one commented that he was ablble to get dash speed.
ShiShTuBaBu said:
yes, I was also thinking the same, but some one commented that he was ablble to get dash speed.
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I would rather not use that even if it works, you risk frying something.
Those adapters are designed fur 1A, not 4 ... That's a huge difference.
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Explorer23 said:
I would rather not use that even if it works, you risk frying something.
Those adapters are designed fur 1A, not 4 ... That's a huge difference.
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yeah, I am going for vooc 5v-4a, though its tough to get the cable. I need to order in aliexpress.
ShiShTuBaBu said:
yeah, I am going for vooc 5v-4a, though its tough to get the cable. I need to order in aliexpress.
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This it's fun.
Why don't you order dash charger+dash cable, from aliexpress. I order it. 26$. Hope i wil get it this year...
null0seven said:
This it's fun.
Why don't you order dash charger+dash cable, from aliexpress. I order it. 26$. Hope i wil get it this year...
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I don't have any charger actually, I use my laptop to charge it which is very slow, and I don't want my laptop on for whole night. so I needed a charger badly. as there is no dash cable here I have to order it and as for now have to use the ordinary usb-c cable for the phone.
You can use any wall charger with 1a, 2a. It will not charge Fast as Dash, but faster than the laptop.
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Just wanted to know what are specs for the charger/cable. I can get tons of aftermarket chargers for my ip4 at a buck or two at the most from asian sellers from asia. am I right that I simply need a 2a charger, with a mini usb cable at the end? just looking into getting extra for when they decide to release it to the public.
Here ya go
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Here ya go
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Sweet! thanks buddy.
cable is a regular mini or micro usb at the end?
rocketman122 said:
Sweet! thanks buddy.
cable is a regular mini or micro usb at the end?
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Micro. Ur welcome!
oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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Haven't tried a third party one yet, thx for the heads up?
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oneplus cable are specially made, I tried using third party cable, it will double your charge time from 2hours to roughly 4.5hours.
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U tried oneplus charger and 3rd party cable? or u tried 3rd party charger too? maybe charger wasnt 2A capable.
carlesbc said:
U tried oneplus charger and 3rd party cable? or u tried 3rd party charger too? maybe charger wasnt 2A capable.
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Anyone tried to trace pinout yet? IIRC, I read somewhere 2 of the pins in the cable were shorted, signaling to the OP that it was to take quick charge. I'll try to find that. The same article / post discussed temp sensor limiting amount of charge since the OP would get hot. Not as quick as true fast charge, but faster than standard.
edit: found it: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/vooc-charging-seems-to-be-working.12639/ by one of XDA's well known devs, @graffixnyc - Thanks Patrick!
Lipo can explode if you hot too much or overcharges, google "lipo explosion"
I have a question. If you use the OPO charger, but plug a usb extender into it(and the OPO cable goes into a usb female at the end of the extender cable), does does having that non-OPO cable in the chain slow things down? Mine does seem to charge slow, but I've honestly never connected the OPO cable directly from the charger to the phone to compare. I honestly don't understand how anyone could use it like that (or any other cable coming with a phone). Not even long enough to stretch from an outlet to a table top if the outlet is right next to the table. My Dell Venue 8 Pro cable is amazing(ly ridiculous). It's maybe a foot long. I guess they expect us to charge our devices on the floor? With the DV8P case the cable would barely even reach the floor!
i can confirm that using the OPO wall charger with a 3rd party usb cable does result in a slower charge time. I tried 2 different cables-- both were of different gauges and lengths-- both resulted in different charge times and were all at least 2-3x slower then the OPO cable. anybody with knowledge as to what kind of cable OPO is using and where we can buy longer versions?
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i can confirm that using the OPO wall charger with a 3rd party usb cable does result in a slower charge time. I tried 2 different cables-- both were of different gauges and lengths-- both resulted in different charge times and were all at least 2-3x slower then the OPO cable. anybody with knowledge as to what kind of cable OPO is using and where we can buy longer versions?
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I can also confirm slower charging using the stock charger with aftermarket cable. But most of my cables are cheaper, is it possible that the gauge of the wire inside the cable is higher on opo cable? Allowing more amps through?
Also, @effluent , if using an aftermarket cable slows things down, I'm assuming putting an extension in the middle will have very similar negative impacts.
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Here:
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...ne+usb&catId=&initiative_id=AS_20140821164650
And here:
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale...harger&catId=&initiative_id=AS_20140821164948
You want a charger cable that won't fail.... Stop buying them online. I've bought them everywhere online and they just can't compete with the usb/charger cable from tmobile.... Maybe be the same for other service providers. Plus you get 30 days to refund or exchange.... So you know after a month if it's worth it which it is.... Those teeth won't sit down and ruin the quality of the charge like 90 percent of the cables online.
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I suggest you have a look here :
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/
flame360 said:
I suggest you have a look here :
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-charging-cable-alternative.68517/
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Seconded. I learned everything I needed to know there! :good:
Cable is way to small I hate it.
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opo cable
On dx . com store..
Bolongking USB Male to Micro USB Male Charging Flat Cable
beastlykings said:
I can also confirm slower charging using the stock charger with aftermarket cable. But most of my cables are cheaper, is it possible that the gauge of the wire inside the cable is higher on opo cable? Allowing more amps through?
Also, @effluent , if using an aftermarket cable slows things down, I'm assuming putting an extension in the middle will have very similar negative impacts.
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You just have to find the right cable. I went through this same thing with my galaxy s5. I got the application "galaxy charging current" and compared the milliamps of all my cables. Some would only do 4-500 ma. Some would do 1800ma. It just depends on the cable. I'm using the cable I got with a ps4 right now, and it will do 1800, and it's 4 feet long.
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Try a fast-charge cable, it has the correct pinout (shorted pins) for fast charging.
www<DOT>amazon.co.uk/dp/B0088HTYUE
And you can't overcharge, it's the phone that demands the current, not the charger that pushes the current through the phone. The phone's charging circuit protects the phone for overcharging and handshakes the right charging current with the connected charger. Charging Android is quiet a complex thing...
Also very very useful: PortaPow USB Power Monitor:
www<DOT>amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DF2485S
(ps can't post links yet, grr..)
Hey guys, was just wondering where I could get a cable for fast charging? Was thinking about getting the incipio fast charger for the car. Thanks!
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Hey guys, was just wondering where I could get a cable for fast charging? Was thinking about getting the incipio fast charger for the car. Thanks!
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You posted in the general area, you should be in the accessories area sir.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories
pr0cl1v1ty said:
You posted in the general area, you should be in the accessories area sir.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories
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I don't believe the actual cable has anything to do with fast charging.
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Hey guys, was just wondering where I could get a cable for fast charging? Was thinking about getting the incipio fast charger for the car. Thanks!
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its not the cable that enables the 'fast charge' feature. its the wall plug itself.
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I don't believe the actual cable has anything to do with fast charging.
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Not sure why you quoted me?
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Not sure why you quoted me?
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its not the cable, but the wall adaptor you plug your cable into. the thing you want to pay attention to is the amperage (written mA). most any USB adaptor bought at a wallmart powerstrip section will push 2.1 amps. stay out of the tech section of the store, those will cost a lot more and only push 1 amp.
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The cable shouldn't matter but I have the Samsung multi-charge cable (3-in-1) and it doesn't support fast charging even if the Note 4 is the only device plugged in. I do have a cheap 6 foot cable I got from Monoprice which supports it just fine.
Needs to switch to 9 volts to fast charge. Look at the charger
soraxd said:
its not the cable, but the wall adaptor you plug your cable into. the thing you want to pay attention to is the amperage (written mA). most any USB adaptor bought at a wallmart powerstrip section will push 2.1 amps. stay out of the tech section of the store, those will cost a lot more and only push 1 amp.
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... you quoted the wrong person...
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... you quoted the wrong person...
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The only thing to watch out for is that this cable will have slightly higher amperage (1.67A) than normal going through it, still not as high as a [email protected] charger, though. Higher amperage result in a lower gauge wire (thicker wire). Just FYI as this is a common failure amongst USB cables that is often times not stated. For a 2A power charger, for example, you would want a 20AWG cable instead of the dinky 26-28 AWG that are normally given.
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oh I had always wondered how much the cable matters. would it just wear out the cable faster, or would it actually throttle the charging speed?
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It's a bit of both, wear is more dependent upon quality of the cable of course but higher amperage through it than what it was designed for can result in excessive heat dissipation which is never good and does bring down the MTBF.
For actual charging speeds the gauge of the cable and as well as the length both make an impact on charging speed. Most OEM cables you get with your phones are normally the more beefy, good quality 1 meter 20AWG ones which is just about right for [email protected] (10.5W). For longer lengths you will want even thicker gauge wire as the losses will be higher and thus resulting in less actual power. A lot of companies get by making "USB certified" cables because the requirement is 28AWG or thicker, they're normally the ones you can find for just a dollar or two on monoprice or something.
For the fast charger ([email protected] (15W)) a 28AWG is likely sufficient, still would prefer a thicker one as when the phone is not fast charging it will switch back to [email protected]
Here's a useful calculator to determine the proper cable size needed for the charging load:
http://www.solar-wind.co.uk/cable-sizing-DC-cables.html
I am thinking about buying the Oneplus 3 since I haven't changed my phone in a long time. I have a few questions about the charging.
Is the DASH charge just the wall adapter? Do I need to have a DASH charge specific USB-C cable?
Can I get DASH charge with a regular USB-C cable to DASH wall charger? (I am asking this because I use long cables because of the location of my outlets and workstation, ~10-15ft)
If I charge with a basic, QuickCharge, or non-DASH wall adapter will my charge speeds be basic or does it revert to QuickCharge (with quickcharge adapter) because it is using the SD820 chip? Also the same question if I use a non-DASH powerbank (I only need a small powerbank not the big ones they are making)?
I am not sure if this should be place here or in the Accessories forum. Please let me know thanks.
Thanks for the help.
1. For DASH charging you need both the adapter and the cable, both are specific and AFAIK there are no aftermarket alternatives.
2. No, with standard cables you won't get DASH speeds. Wires in normal cables are simply too thin to handle high current of DASH.
3. If you're using non-DASH charger and/or cable, you'll max out at about 1.5A, so a bit less than half the speed of DASH (could be slower, depending on hardware used). QuickCharge is not supported, it'll work at standard speeds.
4. Same logic applies to power banks. And DASH capable power banks don't exist (yet?), so it doesn't really matter what bank you're using.
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1. For DASH charging you need both the adapter and the cable, both are specific and AFAIK there are no aftermarket alternatives.
2. No, with standard cables you won't get DASH speeds. Wires in normal cables are simply too thin to handle high current of DASH.
3. If you're using non-DASH charger and/or cable, you'll max out at about 1.5A, so a bit less than half the speed of DASH (could be slower, depending on hardware used). QuickCharge is not supported, it'll work at standard speeds.
4. Same logic applies to power banks. And DASH capable power banks don't exist (yet?), so it doesn't really matter what bank you're using.
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Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Thanks for the help. So just to clarify there is no QuickCharge but I can use DASH or VOOC products correct?
Do they work the same way where when I use a DASH/VOOC charger I MUST USE a DASH/VOOC usb-c cable in order to get rapid charging speeds?
Thanks
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Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Oh, yeah, forgot about that, thanks for correction ?
DASH *may* have some slight software differences, but hardware is the same.
Still not a lot of choice when buying stuff, but at least a bit more.
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magistrateee said:
Thanks for the help. So just to clarify there is no QuickCharge but I can use DASH or VOOC products correct?
Do they work the same way where when I use a DASH/VOOC charger I MUST USE a DASH/VOOC usb-c cable in order to get rapid charging speeds?
Thanks
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Yes, DASH and VOOC will get you full charging speed, everything else will charge at standard speeds.
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lummujaj said:
Sorry but ive to correct you... Vooc charger and cable from Oppo can gives you dash charger. I think its same technology they just call it VOOC ... Ive bought the oppo wall charger + cable for half price of oneplus just to have it spare. And it dash charge
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Can anyone provide me a link for the vooc charger and the oppo cable? If i can save some money buying those, then better.
EDIT: nvm i found them on ebay.
Thanks for the help.
Do you know of any long DASH/VOOC cables for sale somewhere?
On a side note do you know about the Oppo VOOC power bank (6000mah) since I read Oneplus is not making a DASH power bank anymore. Have you read about its DASH use or where to buy it?
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Do you know of any long DASH/VOOC cables for sale somewhere?
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Sadly I don't think this will ever exist ... OnePlus commented about cable length and they said they can't make it longer due to technical limitations (physics ...). High current = high resistance = lower max length.
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My charger broke can anyone recommend where to get a replacement please. Google apparently sells them for at least 30 pounds. Can anyone please recommend a cheaper alternative which does work in terms of fast charging please?
Try Amazon
Try to by the lg nexus 5x it worked for me very well and im having a fast charging just like its original and to be honest from 30% to 90% in just 30 mn
jounes said:
Try to by the lg nexus 5x it worked for me very well and im having a fast charging just like its original and to be honest from 30% to 90% in just 30 mn
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Any idea where to buy it please?
marvi0 said:
Any idea where to buy it please?
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Well in my country algeria i found it in a store. So maybe you can check those who have phone stores. By the way it look like this hope this helps bro
Get any USB-C cable and plug it into any USB power adapter.
Thanks guys will try and have a look at Amazon.
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Get any USB-C cable and plug it into any USB power adapter.
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Not all type c provides fast charg it needs to be type c to c also capable to provide above 15w (5v * 3A)
Yes this. Although, my Nexus 5X one which is 5v3a does fast charge pretty much the same as the stock Px8el 2 XL one. The Pixel 2 XL has been restricted and doesn't take advantage of it's 9v2a charger rating.
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Not all type c provides fast charg it needs to be type c to c also capable to provide above 15w (5v * 3A)
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marvi0 said:
My charger broke can anyone recommend where to get a replacement please. Google apparently sells them for at least 30 pounds. Can anyone please recommend a cheaper alternative which does work in terms of fast charging please?
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You either just paid or are in the process of paying off a near $1,000US (£750) device. Do you really want to risk damage to your home or the device because you want to save a pound?
Spend the £30 or so and get the correct charger.
Have you tried asking Google for a replacement charger under warranty?
https://goo.gl/oZTLDF
this one should work
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https://goo.gl/oZTLDF
this one should work
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Thanks will check it out.
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Not all type c provides fast charg it needs to be type c to c also capable to provide above 15w (5v * 3A)
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True but any 15w USB power adapter and a USB-C cable should do the job just fine. It's never been an issue for me.
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True but any 15w USB power adapter and a USB-C cable should do the job just fine. It's never been an issue for me.
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Not all USB-C cables are the same. The one we need has to be at least USB-C 2.0. The effects from using the wrong spec cable are unknown to me, but I'm not about to find out either. The potential for damaging the device is why I spent the extra money and got an Anker 6' cable that matches the specs of the 3' cable included with my charger.
Some good info here.
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung
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True but any 15w USB power adapter and a USB-C cable should do the job just fine. It's never been an issue for me.
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Yh for sure as long as type a to c can deliver 15w it will do the job but not all type a to c can thats why i recommend type c to c for its capability.
I always go with either Goggle directly or the Anker ones that have PD enabled for faster charging.
Hi Guys and Gals,
Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the Warp cable https://www.oneplus.com/uk/product/oneplus-warp-charge-30-type-c-cable and the normal OnePlus 6 one? I just want to reuse my current charging cable (OnePlus 6) with a Warp Charger (@£29.99) rather than spend £47.40 on a Warp Charger and cable. Any thoughts??
I would guess the cable will be the same, doesn't look any thicker from what I've seen. The actual charger will be the important bit as that's where the circuitry is that stops the phone getting warm as the components which usually cause the heat/slowdown in other phones are in the charger instead.
Thank you
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I would guess the cable will be the same, doesn't look any thicker from what I've seen. The actual charger will be the important bit as that's where the circuitry is that stops the phone getting warm as the components which usually cause the heat/slowdown in other phones are in the charger instead.
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I'm using the new wrap power adaptor with my 1+6 cable. The phone says "wrap".:good:
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I'm using the new wrap power adaptor with my 1+6 cable. The phone says "wrap".:good:
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You sure it doesn't say "WARP" ?
That's a wrap!
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That's a wrap!
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Wrap speed Mr. Data, make it so!
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You sure it doesn't say "WARP" ?
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LOL ... the joke is brought to you by my fat thumbs.
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Hi Guys and Gals,
Does anyone know if there is an actual difference between the Warp cable https://www.oneplus.com/uk/product/oneplus-warp-charge-30-type-c-cable and the normal OnePlus 6 one? I just want to reuse my current charging cable (OnePlus 6) with a Warp Charger (@£29.99) rather than spend £47.40 on a Warp Charger and cable. Any thoughts??
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In the U.S. it's only offered with the cable
Just tested with the 7 pro:
Dash Charger + Warp cable = "fast charging"
Warp Charger + Dash cable = "Warp charging"