I mean, a more recent and most powerful device yet comparing to s10 lineup, below are the drawbacks:
1. No Android 10 beta update yet.
2. Some games like Asphalt 9 is capped to 30 fps while s10 has 60 fps, samsung has to push gameloft and for CSR2 game, the graphics is very poor.
3. No 1440p YouTube support even after changing resolution to 1440p
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C'mon... So what? Nobody here can do anything about what you are complaining about, this type of posts are plain senseless, if those things are of the uttmost importance to you, you should have researched a little to get them with any other device, and for less money by the way
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C'mon... So what? Nobody here can do anything about what you are complaining about, this type of posts are plain senseless, if those things are of the uttmost importance to you, you should have researched a little to get them with any other device, and for less money by the way
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Researched what? That a better and expensive phone would have abandoned support for some Apps/Games? The hardware is there, but ignored for some reason. I am not complaining, just saying, and it pisses me when an inferior device runs the same Apps/ Games better.
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If that pisses you, then why did you get this device?
Akram is right, why is the note 10+ that was just released not getting any love when it comes to android 10 ridiculous in my opinion this companys are so full of ****....
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Akram is right, why is the note 10+ that was just released not getting any love when it comes to android 10 ridiculous in my opinion this companys are so full of ****....
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Just joined xda today? Just to post this? Lol
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Akram is right, why is the note 10+ that was just released not getting any love when it comes to android 10 ridiculous in my opinion this companys are so full of ****....
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Come on. This happens every year. The S series gets the beta first, then about a week or so later the Note series gets it. Chill out and have two seconds worth of patience.
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If that pisses you, then why did you get this device?
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Because i am unable to read the future.
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About the beta, the Note always got it last.
For the other two, I don't think it depends of the Note, but the developer that doesn't gives support.
Is there a way to sign up for the Beta 10?
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No 1440p YouTube support even after changing resolution to 1440p
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Hm, I can watch 1440p videos on YouTube. I have an N975U1. Maybe the N975F is different in that regard?
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I mean, a more recent and most powerful device yet comparing to s10 lineup, below are the drawbacks:
1. No Android 10 beta update yet.
2. Some games like Asphalt 9 is capped to 30 fps while s10 has 60 fps, samsung has to push gameloft and for CSR2 game, the graphics is very poor.
3. No 1440p YouTube support even after changing resolution to 1440p
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AT&T Note10 Plus 1440p, 1080p all works here with no issues at all so you must have weak signal in the area or you just don't have your YouTube resolution set right, now about Beta , S Series are always first been like this for years, Eventually the Note10 Plus will also get the Android 10 Beta, And me personally don't care for Beta Since it's gonna have lots of Bugs, So for the meantime i am in no hurry for Android 10, If the phone aint broken then just enjoy what you have now.
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I mean, a more recent and most powerful device yet comparing to s10 lineup, below are the drawbacks:
1. No Android 10 beta update yet.
2. Some games like Asphalt 9 is capped to 30 fps while s10 has 60 fps, samsung has to push gameloft and for CSR2 game, the graphics is very poor.
3. No 1440p YouTube support even after changing resolution to 1440p
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1. The S series are not only more popular but have been out longer. Of course Samsung will want their beta to be tested by the larger member pool.
2. Nothing to do with Samsung. Complain to the game developers.
3. 1440p YouTube works normally.
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I mean, a more recent and most powerful device yet comparing to s10 lineup, below are the drawbacks:
1. No Android 10 beta update yet.
2. Some games like Asphalt 9 is capped to 30 fps while s10 has 60 fps, samsung has to push gameloft and for CSR2 game, the graphics is very poor.
3. No 1440p YouTube support even after changing resolution to 1440p
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If i remember correctly the s8 got the pie beta but the note 8 didn't yet the note 8 got the pie official first. Im pressuming sammy is doing the same
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Akram. said:
I mean, a more recent and most powerful device yet comparing to s10 lineup, below are the drawbacks:
1. No Android 10 beta update yet.
2. Some games like Asphalt 9 is capped to 30 fps while s10 has 60 fps, samsung has to push gameloft and for CSR2 game, the graphics is very poor.
3. No 1440p YouTube support even after changing resolution to 1440p
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1. Beta is full with bugs. So is not a bad thing not becoming a Guinea pig.
3. I managed to watch 1440p 60fps video with no issue even using FHD setting only.
torickray said:
1. Beta is full with bugs. So is not a bad thing not becoming a Guinea pig.
3. I managed to watch 1440p 60fps video with no issue even using FHD setting only.
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My youtube premium in only 1080p. Are there regional restrictions?
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Just accept your device, or get another one, NOBODY here can do anything about your gripes
1) Note 10 is targeted at professionals and power users. Businesses and people who rely on their phones for work don't want to run unstable beta OS. I don't even want the note 10 to be the first to update to the release version of android 10. Give it a couple months. What's in android 10 you're so hot for anyway? Let me guess... Nothing, you just want it.
2) 1440 Youtube works fine. Your ISP is probably throttling your data, go yell at them.
3) The phone MFR has nothing to do with your game running higher FPS(as long as screen supports), go yell at the developer.
You just nailed it !!!!
Akram. said:
My youtube premium in only 1080p. Are there regional restrictions?
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If u change resolution to WQHD plus, reboot phone then try YouTube 1440p. Had the same issue, did a reboot after rhs resolution change and 1440p shows in YouTube now
My phone is arriving tomorrow and been doing reading.
Something I'm confused about, as I've seen apps and tasker profiles shared, is if 120hz is enabled for everything or does it switch back and forth from 60 to 120 randomly.
What I'd like: 120hz always, whatever highest resolution supported is, for every app.
Do I need to do anything special for that, or does it work that way out of the box?
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My phone is arriving tomorrow and been doing reading.
Something I'm confused about, as I've seen apps and tasker profiles shared, is if 120hz is enabled for everything or does it switch back and forth from 60 to 120 randomly.
What I'd like: 120hz always, whatever highest resolution supported is, for every app.
Do I need to do anything special for that, or does it work that way out of the box?
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Setting 120Hz will stay at 120Hz for everything unless it overheats and throttles, this does not mean that every app/game will run at 120fps though, they have to support 120fps first to make use of the 120Hz refresh rate
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Setting 120Hz will stay at 120Hz for everything unless it overheats and throttles, this does not mean that every app/game will run at 120fps though, they have to support 120fps first to make use of the 120Hz refresh rate
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Okay, that's perfect, all good there.
Second question, if I know of an app that is 60hz max, can I use that tasker profile to set peak and min refresh rate to 60 when opening that app? Would that also change resolution, or is there another step needed?
Imagining something like YouTube, where I'd want the better resolution, less Hz to watch something.
If you have a chance to return the phone I'd think about it. The note 20 ultra is coming and is supposed to be way better.
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If you have a chance to return the phone I'd think about it. The note 20 ultra is coming and is supposed to be way better.
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If I were to keep waiting for better phones, I'd never buy one.
Plus, the Note will not be $600 CAD which is what I paid for this phone.
Fair enough haha
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Thread title says it all. Google decided to cheat a little bit and the LTPO doesn't work in Chrome and other certain apps. In other words, it's locked at 120 Hz. On my OnePlus 9 Pro and my Galaxy S21 Ultra, the LTPO works in absolutely every app and menu everywhere -- meaning that it drops down to 60hz when you don't touch the screen. The system UI within Android 12, along with certain Google apps always stay at 120 hz.
Does anyone know of a way to make LTPO work ubiquitously across the whole entire device?
OLED+SOC dependent feature. Does Google Tensor/ Samsung Exynos support it, is the question. Probably not is the reason why its not working by default
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OLED+SOC dependent feature. Does Google Tensor/ Samsung Exynos support it, is the question. Probably not is the reason why its not working by default
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Of course LTPO is a hardware feature. But LTPO is clearly capable on this phoneb- as it's one of the main selling points. It absolutely can support it. Google just needs to implement some build prop changes or something similar.
Yes the AMOLED used on the Pixel 6 Pro is LTPO. That's only half the equation. Maybe a custom kernel can talk to the SOC if the SOC supports it.
SOC support or default kernel is what's hindering the auto-switching from high refresh rate to power saving low refresh rate on the LTPO display.
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Yes the AMOLED used on the Pixel 6 Pro is LTPO. That's only half the equation. Maybe a custom kernel can talk to the SOC if the SOC supports it.
SOC support or default kernel is what's hindering the auto-switching from high refresh rate to power saving low refresh rate on the LTPO display.
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Why isn't Google doing this as standard? Could it be a Tensor issue?
Maybe a better question would be why is Samsung not implementing this as standard on the SOC designed by them for Google.
Google designed only a small portion of the Exynos SOC (TPU, NPU, ISP etc) used and branded as the Google Tensor. Cost savings
Regarding the OnePlus throttling gate, you can read here:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
The OnePlus 9 seems to be throttling its performance in many popular apps
The OnePlus 9 Pro seems to be limiting the performance in popular apps like Chrome, Twitter, Zoom, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and more.
www.xda-developers.com
This is just stupid, I have been running a 7 pro for 4 years, it has been, hands down, one of the best smartphones I ever owned, performance has been great from day 1 to last day and it is still living with a relative of mine, and he is supper happy with it, I have play a lot, like A LOT and it has worked flawlessly every single time.
I got a 9 pro in october past year and it has been a pain in the ass, the poor performance has been annoyingly usual, the only way to play 120FPS in some games is a magisk module intended for a Samsung F62 which I can't figure out why (because I have no knowledge about this) but it makes some game run 120FPS, however performance is really bad, there is frame drops in some points where my couple's nord 2 demolishes with no issue... I can't figure out why a nord 2 outperforms my 9 pro (i know nord 2 is 90Hz but it is much more solid 90FPS being lower tier).
Let me explain, my couple nord 2 remains 90FPS where my 9 pro gets as low as 30FPS, it is noticeable and annoying.
Is there some sort of magisk module or something "comfortable" for newbies which can be enabled or disabled at taste? I don't mind rebooting phone (I do every time i want to play some games with module I mentioned xd)
I did not tinker with kernels (not yet, did in the past with my former LG G2 and Galaxy S3 but it was quite different). I would like to remain in the Oxygen OS path for now too.
I tried lots of things, AI booster for magisk, also Adreno drivers and nothing seems to work, just performance scaling which seems to lower freq in order to improve battery life, but never higher performance (high performance mode in battery settings seems to do nohing, also tried)
Looking for this as well, as well as a module to disable annoying Doze by the SystemUI. I tried a few modules but the devices still dozes.
SnoopyFTW said:
Regarding the OnePlus throttling gate, you can read here:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
The OnePlus 9 seems to be throttling its performance in many popular apps
The OnePlus 9 Pro seems to be limiting the performance in popular apps like Chrome, Twitter, Zoom, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and more.
www.xda-developers.com
This is just stupid, I have been running a 7 pro for 4 years, it has been, hands down, one of the best smartphones I ever owned, performance has been great from day 1 to last day and it is still living with a relative of mine, and he is supper happy with it, I have play a lot, like A LOT and it has worked flawlessly every single time.
I got a 9 pro in october past year and it has been a pain in the ass, the poor performance has been annoyingly usual, the only way to play 120FPS in some games is a magisk module intended for a Samsung F62 which I can't figure out why (because I have no knowledge about this) but it makes some game run 120FPS, however performance is really bad, there is frame drops in some points where my couple's nord 2 demolishes with no issue... I can't figure out why a nord 2 outperforms my 9 pro (i know nord 2 is 90Hz but it is much more solid 90FPS being lower tier).
Let me explain, my couple nord 2 remains 90FPS where my 9 pro gets as low as 30FPS, it is noticeable and annoying.
Is there some sort of magisk module or something "comfortable" for newbies which can be enabled or disabled at taste? I don't mind rebooting phone (I do every time i want to play some games with module I mentioned xd)
I did not tinker with kernels (not yet, did in the past with my former LG G2 and Galaxy S3 but it was quite different). I would like to remain in the Oxygen OS path for now too.
I tried lots of things, AI booster for magisk, also Adreno drivers and nothing seems to work, just performance scaling which seems to lower freq in order to improve battery life, but never higher performance (high performance mode in battery settings seems to do nohing, also tried)
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The links you posted, those articles are not RELEVANT to YOUR issue. The throttling you're experiencing is a thermal throttling behavior that is literally NORMAL and part of EVERY OEM/Phone.
If you're on a STOCK ROM, the only way to somewhat "kill" the default throttling behavior is to disable/freeze the BATTERY package (app) either via Titanium Backup or some other app. That will prevent the phone from throttling based on the SKIN/Battery temperature.
Otherwise, Custom ROMs based on either OOS12 or OOS13 don't have any of that stock OEM throttling behavior.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
The links you posted, those articles are not RELEVANT to YOUR issue. The throttling you're experiencing is a thermal throttling behavior that is literally NORMAL and part of EVERY OEM/Phone.
If you're on a STOCK ROM, the only way to somewhat "kill" the default throttling behavior is to disable/freeze the BATTERY package (app) either via Titanium Backup or some other app. That will prevent the phone from throttling based on the SKIN/Battery temperature.
Otherwise, Custom ROMs based on either OOS12 or OOS13 don't have any of that stock OEM throttling behavior.
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Is it really thermal throttling? I mean, phone does not get any warmer than usual and for example, Brawl Stars is capped at 60 FPS like most games in BBK phones (but Brawl stars worked 120FPS flawless some time ago, not much, a year ago or so I had a Realme GT Neo 2 which ran games buttersmooth and has basically the same software, color OS, which now has the same issue, games capped to 60 FPS and crap performance)
That is not normal behaviour because Brawl Stars devs claimed the game is fully unlocked and if it works below screen refresh is because of the phone software, that's the "throttling" I mean, don't know if it is because of the famous whitelisting of Oppo.
What I mean is in previous software games worked properly and now performance is a joke (I mention realme GT Neo 2 because is what I could test in the past, I loved it, that's why is a bummer getting a "better phone" which works much worse).
Get an Xbox and solve all your game problems!
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Get an Xbox and solve all your game problems!
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An Xbox? Are you from USA?
I just want my phone works as it should, I don't care about battery.
Also tried disabling battery app and no difference, same behaviour, I'm in OOS13 latest update.
Maybe I should give a try to custom ROM...
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Is it really thermal throttling? I mean, phone does not get any warmer than usual and for example, Brawl Stars is capped at 60 FPS like most games in BBK phones (but Brawl stars worked 120FPS flawless some time ago, not much, a year ago or so I had a Realme GT Neo 2 which ran games buttersmooth and has basically the same software, color OS, which now has the same issue, games capped to 60 FPS and crap performance)
That is not normal behaviour because Brawl Stars devs claimed the game is fully unlocked and if it works below screen refresh is because of the phone software, that's the "throttling" I mean, don't know if it is because of the famous whitelisting of Oppo.
What I mean is in previous software games worked properly and now performance is a joke (I mention realme GT Neo 2 because is what I could test in the past, I loved it, that's why is a bummer getting a "better phone" which works much worse).
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it is because of thermal throttling, literally. The phone doesn't get warmer because it's being limited, hence the point of thermal throttling.
The refresh rate - FPS - in a game depends solely on the devs. If the game has in one device for example support for 120 FPS, and it doesn't have in another device, it's not because of the device but because the developers either didn't "whitelist" that specific device or weren't updated in a longer time.
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it is because of thermal throttling, literally. The phone doesn't get warmer because it's being limited, hence the point of thermal throttling.
The refresh rate - FPS - in a game depends solely on the devs. If the game has in one device for example support for 120 FPS, and it doesn't have in another device, it's not because of the device but because the developers either didn't "whitelist" that specific device or weren't updated in a longer time.
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Hmm...
With the magisk module I mentioned device name changes from LE2123 to SO-52A or something similar, makes also work codm 120 FPS pretty good, much better than brawl stars which is much weaker in terms of graphics quality and detail.
Is there any way to spoof model name to test this? If so devs are lying big time. When launched 9 pro they announced collab with many games, even hypertouch feature which is gone and for what seems now touch sampling rate is just 120Hz from the 360 advertised (monitoring with apps say so).
Also tried to disable battery app and no difference, behaviour is the same.
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Hmm...
With the magisk module I mentioned device name changes from LE2123 to SO-52A or something similar, makes also work codm 120 FPS pretty good, much better than brawl stars which is much weaker in terms of graphics quality and detail.
Is there any way to spoof model name to test this? If so devs are lying big time. When launched 9 pro they announced collab with many games, even hypertouch feature which is gone and for what seems now touch sampling rate is just 120Hz from the 360 advertised (monitoring with apps say so).
Also tried to disable battery app and no difference, behaviour is the same.
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Disabling the battery app is for the throttling workaround, not to increase the frames in the game that don't support it on your device. lol
Anyways, blame the devs...They're the ones that need to add support for the specific device to go above the XY FPS.
The smartphone wasn't intended to be a gaming device. Chipset and battery not rated for it. Get an Xbox or some similar device for gaming that it was intended for! Just my opinion.
You can test the throttling using a CPU/GPU Throttle Testing app. The OP 9 starts throttling at a low temperature, I can notice FPS dropping in games starting at 38 degrees.
I use a cooling fan attached to my OP to keep the phone at a constant 32 degrees. I also bought a heat dispersion case to help further.
Also using Konabess to undevolt the GPU also helps a bit.
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The smartphone wasn't intended to be a gaming device. Chipset and battery not rated for it. Get an Xbox or some similar device for gaming that it was intended for! Just my opinion.
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I'm not asking for it to perform in graphic demanding games, I'm telling you even a redmi note 10 pro (that thing is actually not rated for anything) outperforms the 9 pro in light gaming because it is not capped.
Blame the devs, blame OnePlus, I just want to know if there is any solution, I purchased the phone a few months ago and I'm finding stupid behaviours an "allegedly" flagship should not have.
Jeez even my couple Nord 2 is much better in games, that hurts...
And yeah. Get an Xbox blablabla, I do own a PS4, a powerful laptop and a powerful desktop, I just want my stupid phone to do what it should do or at least know why or if it can be solved, this is not r/xbox.
This is an issue many people complain about but OnePlus ever stated anything.
For what I can see my options are getting a cheap 120HZ phone or custom ROM (I saw a blackshark 4 for 200EUR which runs games fine)
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Disabling the battery app is for the throttling workaround, not to increase the frames in the game that don't support it on your device. lol
Anyways, blame the devs...They're the ones that need to add support for the specific device to go above the XY FPS.
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The thing is when released the 9 pro, OnePlus brand had collabs with many games, even hypertouch, all of it disappeared into thin air...
That was the main reason for me to purchase, I had a great experience with my former 7 pro and I couldn't even think this could be a thing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367122914961670156
This thread is of the main dev of the game I'm talking about. He claims the brand has to whitelist app in order to make it work 120HZ/120FPS.
Is there no way to modify that "whitelist"? I've read sometimes about this but rarely found anything (anything users can do about it lmao) and we all know how lazy oppo is with this things, there can be a thousand posts in OnePlus community ther will never answer.
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The thing is when released the 9 pro, OnePlus brand had collabs with many games, even hypertouch, all of it disappeared into thin air...
That was the main reason for me to purchase, I had a great experience with my former 7 pro and I couldn't even think this could be a thing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367122914961670156
This thread is of the main dev of the game I'm talking about. He claims the brand has to whitelist app in order to make it work 120HZ/120FPS.
Is there no way to modify that "whitelist"? I've read sometimes about this but rarely found anything (anything users can do about it lmao) and we all know how lazy oppo is with this things, there can be a thousand posts in OnePlus community ther will never answer.
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This is a GAME SIDE issue, not a phone-side issue. There is no whitelist on a phone that will enable you the unsupported FPS.
SnoopyFTW said:
An Xbox? Are you from USA?
I just want my phone works as it should, I don't care about battery.
Also tried disabling battery app and no difference, same behaviour, I'm in OOS13 latest update.
Maybe I should give a try to custom ROM...
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If you want to try a custom rom, Extended is great as daily driver and for gaming as well
Well, if XBox isn't available then look for a Microsoft Play Station instead!
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This is a GAME SIDE issue, not a phone-side issue. There is no whitelist on a phone that will enable you the unsupported FPS.
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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Try your own phone model in the virtual machine. What happens?
Arealhooman said:
Try your own phone model in the virtual machine. What happens?
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If I set up OnePlus LE2123/20/25 game runs 60FPS.
If I set for instance, my couple nord 2 DN2103 runs 120FPS same settings, just device name and brand changed!
Presets for S20, Xiaomi 10, vivo x50 all run 120 FPS.
Which for me is big yikes It is clearly devs fault, there has to be something odd...
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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So what are you saying exactly: if we spoof our device to a different one, we get more fps?