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Dolphin emulator Snapdragon 805 with Adreno 420 performance discussion

*update*
this issue should now be resolved with version 4.0-4706 which can be downloaded here!
https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android/builds/33
Thanks sonicadvance1 for the work done so far on this project, and the fast fix to the problem. I am going to test ot out a bit now.
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I have the AT&T variant of the samsung galaxy note 4 and thought I would post over here in the T-Mobile section to see if anyone here has had a chance to mess with this app.
Let me start by saying I already know the app is an alpha and that even though in the app's description on the play store it states this app will run terrible on all devices, I have noticed it runs better on the nore 3 than the note 4...
It is for that reason that I am particularly interested in seeing if decreasing the display resolution using nomone resolution changer or any other resolution changing app to 1920x1080 or even 1280x720 yields any increase in performance. There are videos of it running on the note 3 which has me stumped since I expected the 805 to at least outperform the 800 and the only limiting factor I could possibly think would cause for worse performance on the note 4 is display resolution (which shouldn't in theory matter when using opengl es 3.0 as it allows for selected rendering for internal resolution) or simple lack of driver support by qualcomm for the adreno line.
The developers of dolphin have already stated over the course of its development that the qualcomm chipsets have terrible driver support and that they greatly prefer/recommend the Nvidia tegra k1.
I guess I would like to know if anyone with root can try running some gamecube/wii games at a reduced resolution using both opengl es 3.0 and software rendering and report on their results. Unfortunately the AT&T Note 4 root prospect is looking grim atm and I would love to know how the note 3 is outperforming the note 4 but without root I can't accurately test it.
I get 10 to 14 fps in ssbm when the intro is playing, but as soon as I press start, the game drops to less than 1fps at the press start screen. That seems to pretty much be the norm with all of the games I have tried.
I have tried reicast and ppsspp on this phone and both run phenomenally even when rendered at the note 4 native resolution 2560x1440 which to be honest still blows me away.
I am sure there are tweaks and optimizations available to make it at least run a little better.
Please comment and provide feedback/experiences in a friendly manner
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I haven't tried Dolphin emulator but here's something I remember seeing. The 805 in 2k resolution performs roughly the same as the 801 in 1080p resolution. Take that as you will but if both were the same resolution, ie 1080p, then the 805 would kill the 800/801.

Averant said:
I haven't tried Dolphin emulator but here's something I remember seeing. The 805 in 2k resolution performs roughly the same as the 801 in 1080p resolution. Take that as you will but if both were the same resolution, ie 1080p, then the 805 would kill the 800/801.
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You are correct.
That was what I was reading before the US Note 4 was released, it was based on benchmarks which could go either way when it comes to performance accuracy.
My thinking is this:
If dolphin is rendering at 2560x1440 despite the internal rendering resolution being set to 1x native, then dropping the phone's display resolution should greatly improve performance.
I could of course be wrong though and I have no way to test it yet
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I also want to point out I have been frequently testing the latest commits as they become available here:
https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android
Just in case anyone wants to test some different builds.
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ryudosama said:
I also want to point out I have been frequently testing the latest commits as they become available here:
https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android
Just in case anyone wants to test some different builds.
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What controller(s) do you use? I've been thinking about getting the Moga Power controller for some OTG emulation with the Note 4. Although nothing will take my love away from my nvidia shield.

I'm on Sprint on the echo rom and I've never used app settings from xposed to change dpi of dolphin. I'll try that after work and report back

addictivepixels said:
What controller(s) do you use? I've been thinking about getting the Moga Power controller for some OTG emulation with the Note 4. Although nothing will take my love away from my nvidia shield.
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I bought a phonejoy for most of my emulation and gaming needs, the form factor is pretty cool but functionality wise it has its quirks like the right analog stick being permanently inverted.
I made a DIY gameklip using a sixaxis dualshock 3 and a hanger that I use for more hardcore gaming sessions. Video of it can be seen here:
http://youtu.be/65rQQ-vhA74
Would love to hear about how the Moga is working for you since I was considering getting one as well.
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ryanalan82 said:
I'm on Sprint on the echo rom and I've never used app settings from xposed to change dpi of dolphin. I'll try that after work and report back
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Definitely appreciate it. I don't think the dpi would change anything other than user interface size but I could be wrong. Look forward to hearing your results.
We have a T-Mobile note 4 developer on the AT&T forum right now that seems to be making progress on root for the AT&T Note 4 which is pretty exciting.
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ryudosama said:
I also want to point out I have been frequently testing the latest commits as they become available here:
https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android
Just in case anyone wants to test some different builds.
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The buildbot just reset when it went over 1000 or so entries, so it is back to 0 as of today. I think the previous builds should still be accessible on the main website somewhere but any new ones should still populate on this link going forward.
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Update: I verified from Sonicadvance1 the developer for Dolphin that the adreno 4xx line of gpu were not detected properly in the coding for the android distribution of Dolphin. The developer says he will add it which means we should see some progress.
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ryudosama said:
Update: I verified from Sonicadvance1 the developer for Dolphin that the adreno 4xx line of gpu were not detected properly in the coding for the android distribution of Dolphin. The developer says he will add it which means we should see some progress.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. It hasn't even been running right on the Shield tablet and that is a Note 4 on steroids.

twistedumbrella said:
I wouldn't hold your breath. It hasn't even been running right on the Shield tablet and that is a Note 4 on steroids.
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The shield tablet doesnt work because of the nvidia tegra 4 chip and how it handles graphics
The note 3 can run most games at half speed so the note 4 should do fairly well once the update is released to allow the glbuffer
Lets see how it runs once the minor fix is released to allow full opengl 3.0 support

NGP-1001 said:
The shield tablet doesnt work because of the nvidia tegra 4 chip and how it handles graphics
The note 3 can run most games at half speed so the note 4 should do fairly well once the update is released to allow the glbuffer
Lets see how it runs once the minor fix is released to allow full opengl 3.0 support
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The shield uses the tegra 4, the shield tablet on the other hand uses the tegra k1 which has a 192 core Cuda gpu, and is in fact faster than the note 4, however it is not much higher than the note 4 in benchmarks and the likelyhood is we can get decent performance given the performance seen on the note 3.
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Adreno
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The shield uses the tegra 4, the shield tablet on the other hand uses the tegra k1 which has a 192 core Cuda gpu, and is in fact faster than the note 4, however it is not much higher than the note 4 in benchmarks and the likelyhood is we can get decent performance given the performance seen on the note 3.
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I thought he was talking about the shield portable and dolphin will not run on tegra 4 at all
as for the shield tablet some games are reaching playable speeds which is nice.
I am hopeful that the note 4 will provide some sort of speed boost over the note 3
someday this may be playable once further optimization is done.
I will be waiting for the update and i will provide gameplay videos for comparison

NGP-1001 said:
I thought he was talking about the shield portable and dolphin will not run on tegra 4 at all
as for the shield tablet some games are reaching playable speeds which is nice.
I am hopeful that the note 4 will provide some sort of speed boost over the note 3
someday this may be playable once further optimization is done.
I will be waiting for the update and i will provide gameplay videos for comparison
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twistedumbrella said:
I wouldn't hold your breath. It hasn't even been running right on the Shield tablet and that is a Note 4 on steroids.
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Had I not specified the exact version I was referring to, I could understand getting what I meant confused.
Just so we have a firm grasp on where I am coming from, I know for a fact that Nvidia worked with Dolphin directly to help with running on the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I am making an educated prediction that Adreno devices, which have been known for buggy GLES 3 drivers, will not run as well. Ipso facto, poor on Shield tablet then poor on Note 4.

twistedumbrella said:
Had I not specified the exact version I was referring to, I could understand getting what I meant confused.
Just so we have a firm grasp on where I am coming from, I know for a fact that Nvidia worked with Dolphin directly to help with running on the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I am making an educated prediction that Adreno devices, which have been known for buggy GLES 3 drivers, will not run as well. Ipso facto, poor on Shield tablet then poor on Note 4.
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That is true, I suppose I am just an optimist.
That being said like others have stated it runs on the note 3, perhaps not playable, but better than the note 4 currently which leads me to think once this change is implemented the note 4 will surpass the note 3 in performance which is what I am sure we were all expecting from the note 4 out of the box.
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ryudosama said:
That is true, I suppose I am just an optimist.
That being said like others have stated it runs on the note 3, perhaps not playable, but better than the note 4 currently which leads me to think once this change is implemented the note 4 will surpass the note 3 in performance which is what I am sure we were all expecting from the note 4 out of the box.
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I should also warn you that setting GLES 3 on the Note 4 breaks Unity games. I found that one out today trying to debug why my game is broken on Note 4 and nothing else. Qualcomm may be a better target for any dream of updates that fix functionality. For your sake, I hope that one is a Unity issue. G'luck.

ryudosama said:
I get 10 to 14 fps in ssbm when the intro is playing, but as soon as I press start, the game drops to less than 1fps at the press start screen. That seems to pretty much be the norm with all of the games I have tried.
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dude.....dude.......dude.. I love you omg. I spent like a whole week doing exactly what you're doing now. my ssbm intro record is 16fps, by playing with some hacks in the settings. after into game either crashes or goes to less than 1fps. I bet you're the one who I saw posting questions on dolphin forums, and on that dudes YouTube video.
are you using the latest alpha builds? https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android
No idea how to find that link normally but I've been hanging onto it in my gKeep.
I know with root you can do some edits that'll make dolphin run better (says one of the dolphin mods).
I too was amazed old note 3 with a year less of development runs better than note 4 with an entire year of dolphin optimization.
kinda silly but running dolphins was one of the things I told myself could justify me buying the note 4 over the s5.

soraxd said:
dude.....dude.......dude.. I love you omg. I spent like a whole week doing exactly what you're doing now. my ssbm intro record is 16fps, by playing with some hacks in the settings. after into game either crashes or goes to less than 1fps. I bet you're the one who I saw posting questions on dolphin forums, and on that dudes YouTube video.
are you using the latest alpha builds? https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android
No idea how to find that link normally but I've been hanging onto it in my gKeep.
I know with root you can do some edits that'll make dolphin run better (says one of the dolphin mods).
I too was amazed old note 3 with a year less of development runs better than note 4 with an entire year of dolphin optimization.
kinda silly but running dolphins was one of the things I told myself could justify me buying the note 4 over the s5.
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I brought the issue to the attention of Sonicadvance1 on page 2 of the thread https://forums.dolphin-emu.org/Thread-the-note-4-and-dolphin and have since been waiting for said change to happen.
I am also aware of the YouTube video showing the note 3 in action hence why I made this thread in an attempt to determine what is actually causing the problem. The problem is entirely on dolphin right now and I suspected that there are a lot of people silently accepting the fact that it doesn't work, simply on the premise that they are told to expect it to not run which is why I made this thread to create awareness and see if anyone else was in my boat that could help test and figure out the problem.
Honestly when I found the note 4 thread on the dolphin forum it was already an off topic dead topic, so I wasnt expexting such a quick response from the developer. It was a nice surprise to learn the issue is what appears to be a simple fix in dolphin.
Now it is just a waiting game.
Also, just from reading the changes made in the buildbot, I suspect those changes are intended for the Linux version since some of the changes are notated regarding features not present in the android version such as d3d.
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Updating original post to include that issues mentioned should now be resolved by this build.
https://buildbot.dolphin-emu.org/builders/release-android/builds/33
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Bad performance and bad frame rate on gaming

One of my friend has the one+ 5t and was playing Sonic Dash, the rendering was so fast and so smooth, it looks like 60 fps, i tried the same game on my Honor 8 Pro as well but sadly, the frame rate was not as smooth and fast as the One+ 5t... it looks like around 30 - 40 fps on the Honor 8 Pro.
Is it a hardware limitation on the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game takes so much ressources that the hardware cannot follow) or, the game is not optimized for the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game doesn't explore all of the potential from the Honor 8 Pro's hardware).

Kirin chipset has always been about one step behind..
even when you compare with Exynos that uses Mali, Exynos chipset has got extra cores compared to Kirin.
but yes, sometimes it also requires optimisation from developers.
having said that, do remember than Kirin processor on the honor8Pro is kinda old. iirc, it's a chip that was launched at the end of 2016..

Krystal666 said:
One of my friend has the one+ 5t and was playing Sonic Dash, the rendering was so fast and so smooth, it looks like 60 fps, i tried the same game on my Honor 8 Pro as well but sadly, the frame rate was not as smooth and fast as the One+ 5t... it looks like around 30 - 40 fps on the Honor 8 Pro.
Is it a hardware limitation on the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game takes so much ressources that the hardware cannot follow) or, the game is not optimized for the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game doesn't explore all of the potential from the Honor 8 Pro's hardware).
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The biggest prick caused by 2k res screen. Once got oreo updated, change your screen res to 1080p, your good to go.
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grizzlyspid86 said:
The biggest prick caused by 2k res screen. Once got oreo updated, change your screen res to 1080p, your good to go.
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I tried already, it doesn't change anything unfortunately...

grizzlyspid86 said:
The biggest prick caused by 2k res screen. Once got oreo updated, change your screen res to 1080p, your good to go.
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lolz... some ppl say that's one of the best features (many like high res)... but ya... this is one possible cause...

Krystal666 said:
I tried already, it doesn't change anything unfortunately...
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How u change it? U got oreo already? Or just use low resolution in battery settings?
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grizzlyspid86 said:
How u change it? U got oreo already? Or just use low resolution in battery settings?
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I have Oreo, and you can change resolution in battery settings, even though i can set resolution to low (HD or Full HD instead of 2k), it doesn't mean games' performances will increase a lot.
In Sonic Dash for example, whatever resolution i use, the frame rate is still low and bad...

Krystal666 said:
I have Oreo, and you can change resolution in battery settings, even though i can set resolution to low (HD or Full HD instead of 2k), it doesn't mean games' performances will increase a lot.
In Sonic Dash for example, whatever resolution i use, the frame rate is still low and bad...
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Then its the game fault cause dont optimise for our Mali GPU. As for other games i'm using, change res to 1080p definitely increase fps and become smoother.
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kirin 960 uses Mali g71- MP8 gpu instead bof the MP20 core version. That was a big mistake in my opinion. Samsung used MP20 in their Exynos which gives it a nice boost.
And also 2k resolution make it harder.
Lowering the resolution doesn't help as it is an IPS display rather than Amoled.
Besides optimisation sometimes does matter

Frame drops and Performance issue
This is a issue with all of the honor 8pro , there are lot of frame drops which are quite annoying and all the apps are not optimised . When I compared my honor 8pro with Moto X force which has Snapdragon 821 , all the apps in Moto X force
are buttery smooth which is very addictive and cool ,but my honor 8 pro even with this
Hi Silicon Kirin 960 it performs disgusting , there are frame drops and sometimes it sikps them ..... Disappointed with my purchase

Bad software optimisation, and worst part is rom development support is dead
On paper and benchmarks kirin 960 is a beast but when it comes to real world usage, the processor is sh*t. Too much frame drops, ui lags and glitches everywhere. I hate this phone and regret my decision to buy it over oneplus. No doubt that this processor is fast but its not smooth. When I compared general ui navigation, my zenfone was much smoother despite of having Snapdragon 625.

Netflix in 4k HDR

Hi everyone,
I know that Netflix recently sent a list of all compatible phones to support 4k HDR and the Note 10 was listed.
What is weird is the Note 10+ wasn't specifically listed and at the moment no hd on my phone.
Actually looks really bad like when I was watching movies on my PSP back in the day.
YouTube in 4k is just gorgeous so not a problem with the screen.
Can someone confirm this is also the case with them ?
Does anyone have any tips for this ?
Thanks again
Obviously latest updates on phone and apps.

did you check usual troubleshooting?
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

Note 10 doesn't have a 4K screen. Only 2K.

raul6 said:
did you check usual troubleshooting?
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444
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Yes nothing much there unfortunately.
If I had to guess I would say that its maxed out at 720p where as my OnePlus 6t seems to be 1080p.
I know that Netflix is picky about which devices get "HD" content but if the Note 10 doesn't then that's just insane.
How's Netflix on yours ? Do you get the HDR pop-up at the beginning of a video?

No pop about hdr. I just assume it plays in HD when there is a mark on the content.

hotshot646 said:
Yes nothing much there unfortunately.
If I had to guess I would say that its maxed out at 720p where as my OnePlus 6t seems to be 1080p.
I know that Netflix is picky about which devices get "HD" content but if the Note 10 doesn't then that's just insane.
How's Netflix on yours ? Do you get the HDR pop-up at the beginning of a video?
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How could you tell Note 10+ is not supporting 1080p. I have HD in my movie title. HD can be 1080p.

Maximum resolution is Full HD which is 1080p.
So no issue to play 1080p in netflix.

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Note 10 doesn't have a 4K screen. Only 2K.
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To clarify, the Note 10 PLUS has a 2K screen. The smaller Note 10 is just 1080p.

I don't know about 4K, but after the Netflix update of devices I can see the HDR tag on many of the movies and series.
This with Note10+...

I think that it is country depndent

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I don't know about 4K, but after the Netflix update of devices I can see the HDR tag on many of the movies and series.
This with Note10+...
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So you get a pop up when you play HDR content for example?
I only get that on my TV so I doubt it's country specific.
BTW I was saying note 10 but in reality I have a note 10+ with the 2k screen.

So you get a pop up when you play HDR content for example?
I only get that on my TV so I doubt it's country specific.
BTW I was saying note 10 but in reality I have a note 10+ with the 2k screen.[/QUOTE]
No popup but I can see if the series is in HDR on the autoplay trailer screen, same as on my television.
It's HDR, 4K or HD.
You only get the logo your device supports.
Like on this picture:
[https://images.app.goo.gl/n7k53sAiNvvqKoEJ6

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So you get a pop up when you play HDR content for example?
I only get that on my TV so I doubt it's country specific.
BTW I was saying note 10 but in reality I have a note 10+ with the 2k screen.
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As I posted the screenshot before, netflix supports HDR in note 10+.
Did you subscribe for the ultra hd monthly subscription plan? Hdr only available for that plan.
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https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23939
Note 10 is listed as the device which support hdr

I have had the ultra HD plan since the beginning so yes that's not the problem.
On my TV I get a round pop-up when I play a hdr video saying " hdr video playing"
This is common on all 4k hdr sets !
Besides talking about hdr and 4k I really see the image as crappy (which isn't the case in YouTube)
Like I've mentioned I know that the note 10 has been certified but we are on a note 10 PLUS forum. There is a difference and if Netflix validated the note 10 and not note 10 plus then that could be the problem.
I'll send them a email and report back my findings

I just chatted with netflix help center, they say we could not watch titles in 4K because our device works for 2K, but 1080p HDRs are working flawlessly for me. Should work for everybody

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I have had the ultra HD plan since the beginning so yes that's not the problem.
On my TV I get a round pop-up when I play a hdr video saying " hdr video playing"
This is common on all 4k hdr sets !
Besides talking about hdr and 4k I really see the image as crappy (which isn't the case in YouTube)
Like I've mentioned I know that the note 10 has been certified but we are on a note 10 PLUS forum. There is a difference and if Netflix validated the note 10 and not note 10 plus then that could be the problem.
I'll send them a email and report back my findings
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No, that popup is not common, I have two different Samsung televisions, one Note 10 Plus , my girlfriend has a iPhone 11 Pro and a couple of weeks ago I had a Galaxy 10±.....
None of these devices had a popup saying HDR is playing.
They just play in the best resolution supported by Netflix and the device.

You should check the app setting. As it shows support for hdr.
And you need to make sure the video quality is high.
I don't have uhd plan so I can't test for it.

hotshot646 said:
Hi everyone,
I know that Netflix recently sent a list of all compatible phones to support 4k HDR and the Note 10 was listed.
What is weird is the Note 10+ wasn't specifically listed and at the moment no hd on my phone.
Actually looks really bad like when I was watching movies on my PSP back in the day.
YouTube in 4k is just gorgeous so not a problem with the screen.
Can someone confirm this is also the case with them ?
Does anyone have any tips for this ?
Thanks again
Obviously latest updates on phone and apps.
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Problem resolution. The Netflix App comes pre-installed on Note 10+. Uninstall updates, clear data and disable the App. Then go to the play store and activate the App and press Update. Ready. sorted out.
On my Note 10+ it worked!
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Note 10+ N975W

No N975W?

Is 4k video editing possible?

Hi guys,
have anyone of you tried to edit 4k video on tab s4? I edit short 4k clips on my XZ2 (S845, 4GB RAM) in Kinemaster without any problems but I'm not sure if S835 can handle it plus XZ2 has lower resolution screen so maybe even RAM wouldn't be sufficient on Tab S4.
Do you have any experience with this?
Thank you!

Evzzza said:
Hi guys,
have anyone of you tried to edit 4k video on tab s4? I edit short 4k clips on my XZ2 (S845, 4GB RAM) in Kinemaster without any problems but I'm not sure if S835 can handle it plus XZ2 has lower resolution screen so maybe even RAM wouldn't be sufficient on Tab S4.
Do you have any experience with this?
Thank you!
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At least with Adobe Rush, it had issues exporting. But then again, it's Adobe Rush... ??

champ784 said:
At least with Adobe Rush, it had issues exporting. But then again, it's Adobe Rush...
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Thanks! Do you still own it? Could you try it? :angel:

Evzzza said:
Thanks! Do you still own it? Could you try it? :angel:
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I personally don't use Kinemaster, but have been considering using it for a bit now. I'll give it a shot. What are you shooting your 4K footage with? DSLR? Drone? I use a Sony mirrorless NEX-5R for 1080p footage, DJI Mavic 2 Pro for 2K footage, and my OnePlus 7T Pro and Pixel 3a XL shoot at 4K (albeit, bitrate isn't as high as a DSLR or Drone)

champ784 said:
I personally don't use Kinemaster, but have been considering using it for a bit now. I'll give it a shot. What are you shooting your 4K footage with? DSLR? Drone? I use a Sony mirrorless NEX-5R for 1080p footage, DJI Mavic 2 Pro for 2K footage, and my OnePlus 7T Pro and Pixel 3a XL shoot at 4K (albeit, bitrate isn't as high as a DSLR or Drone)
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Thank you that would be perfect as I'm shooting with XZ2 right now and going to buy S10 next month so bitrate should be comparable.

I don't care about exporting times but mostly about fluidity when editing while using transitions, text layers and music.

Evzzza said:
Thank you that would be perfect as I'm shooting with XZ2 right now and going to buy S10 next month so bitrate should be comparable.
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Yeah I'll see if I can have something in a couple of days (no promises though as I'm a dad with a job, so duty calls ??)
Any reason why you're considering a tab S4 over the six or an actual laptop?

champ784 said:
Yeah I'll see if I can have something in a couple of days (no promises though as I'm a dad with a job, so duty calls )
Any reason why you're considering a tab S4 over the six or an actual laptop?
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Thank you! No hurry!
It's because I can get S4 for 245€ but I would have to pay 510€ for S6 and I know I won't use it very often so I would rather buy S4 if it's powerful enough for 4k video editing.

Evzzza said:
Thank you! No hurry!
It's because I can get S4 for 245€ but I would have to pay 510€ for S6 and I know I won't use it very often so I would rather buy S4 if it's powerful enough for 4k video editing.
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Gotcha.. I'd also look into Davinci Resolve if you end up going with a PC, it's super advanced and free if you ever need it. But I'll still test it out and see how it goes

Evzzza said:
Thank you! No hurry!
It's because I can get S4 for 245€ but I would have to pay 510€ for S6 and I know I won't use it very often so I would rather buy S4 if it's powerful enough for 4k video editing.
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So far, exporting 1080p footage has been possible, but there's been noticable audio lag when scrubbing through your timeline. I haven't tried 4K, but I'm assuming it may struggle if I try anything higher. This is with Kinemaster specifically.

champ784 said:
So far, exporting 1080p footage has been possible, but there's been noticable audio lag when scrubbing through your timeline. I haven't tried 4K, but I'm assuming it may struggle if I try anything higher. This is with Kinemaster specifically.
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Thank you I appreciate it! I will probably go with iPad 6th gen and Lumafusion. I saw it can handle three clips of 4k video playing at once in luma and I can get it even cheaper than S4.

What games on S20 Ultra plays in 120fps mode?

I've tried few games like Real Racing 3 and Shadow Legends which both ran on 120fps on ROG Phone 2, but they only show 60fps on S20 Ultra. so was wondering what games supports S20 Ultra 120hz display.

I believe Asphalt 9 does. How do you check at what refresh rate the game will play at?
Edit: found this list.

every game if you use this

Pokemon GO definitely

ismailonrails said:
I've tried few games like Real Racing 3 and Shadow Legends which both ran on 120fps on ROG Phone 2, but they only show 60fps on S20 Ultra. so was wondering what games supports S20 Ultra 120hz display.
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Have you tried dolphin?
Lol been asking everyone to test this.
Not sure if they have a 120 fps mode but would be nice to see if it actually runs games.
If it does then anything on the play store will be a breeze

dladz said:
Have you tried dolphin?
Lol been asking everyone to test this.
Not sure if they have a 120 fps mode but would be nice to see if it actually runs games.
If it does then anything on the play store will be a breeze
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Someone on reddit running it and very happy with it

Mohamad Gahed said:
Someone on reddit running it and very happy with it
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Really? Will check it out. There's a Mali optimized version.
The windwaker on GameCube ran perfect on the oneplus 5, perfect when I removed the page file on the P20 Pro and added performance mode via magisk (utterly unplayable without those tweaks)
Literally no settings would allow the pro to run those games..
If the 77 can run GameCube games and perhaps Wii then I'll be impressed.
I know the 865 is something special and this is Samsung's last chip is making, just hope they optimize it, for £1400 it should be able to run anything.
I think I'm going to find it's bottleneck, my money's on the GPU.

dladz said:
Really? Will check it out. There's a Mali optimized version.
The windwaker on GameCube ran perfect on the oneplus 5, perfect when I removed the page file on the P20 Pro and added performance mode via magisk (utterly unplayable without those tweaks)
Literally no settings would allow the pro to run those games..
If the 77 can run GameCube games and perhaps Wii then I'll be impressed.
I know the 865 is something special and this is Samsung's last chip is making, just hope they optimize it, for £1400 it should be able to run anything.
I think I'm going to find it's bottleneck, my money's on the GPU.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20U...dash/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20U...dash/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Yea thats the SD mate I knew it would work perfectly on that, i'm just curious about the Exynos, it's been way behind in the past, hoping this year it'll be up to scratch, for the price it certainly should be.

The Root said:
Pokemon GO definitely
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Mine seems to fade in and out. Game looks amazing then it fizzles out and looks worse than my S20+

World Of Tanks Blitz is one of my favorites.

Call of duty Mobile and I think PUBG and Fortune too.