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Worth the change? :)

Hello,
I've the Galaxy Gear 1 (that has its limitations) and I am planning to change it to the Sony Smartwatch 3. Is it a wise change? Anyone in the same situation?
Thanks.

Wait and see if battery drain issues get solved
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Love the device otherwise

dan-htc-touch said:
Wait and see if battery drain issues get solved
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Love the device otherwise
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I think it is, despite this.

senectus said:
I think it is, despite this.
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I'd say the battery drain issues are fixed. And yes, this watch is definitely worth the change.

I am coming from Gear 2 and I must say the overall experience is better.
It is smooth, lots of apps, and it handles notifications much better than the Samsung (what is the main reason for a smartwatch).
Not everything is better, I miss the led screen and Te 4 day battery life.
Also the random battery drain is still an issue....
Overall I love the watch would not go back mainly because the better overall experience.

I;m thinking of this exact jump.. Gear 2 to SW3. Were you on tizen or android wear on gear 2? What are a couple of key features you like about sw3 vs gear 2, aside from notification. I am hoping that GPS is good for golf.. Aside from battery life, are there any other drawbacks?
Ronee33 said:
I am coming from Gear 2 and I must say the overall experience is better.
It is smooth, lots of apps, and it handles notifications much better than the Samsung (what is the main reason for a smartwatch).
Not everything is better, I miss the led screen and Te 4 day battery life.
Also the random battery drain is still an issue....
Overall I love the watch would not go back mainly because the better overall experience.
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LG G4 marshmallow poor battery life and performance ?!?!

I am on MM almost three days and i noticed huge battery drains. Tried hard reset and calibrating the battery, but no luck. Im stuck on 2.5h SOT and it makes me angry. On lollipop i was getting almost 4.5-5h SOT on 3g and data always on. I noticed some lags and downgrade in performance. Shame on you LG, please fix this.. G4 is best phone and we need best software for it.

yep, same battery results for me. i went back to LL

went back to LP too till they get MM rooted

I'm not having this problem with my mm
did you do a full wipe cache ?

Hani88 said:
I'm not having this problem with my mm
did you do a full wipe cache ?
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Didn't have twrp installed to clean cache/dalvic

reg66 said:
Didn't have twrp installed to clean cache/dalvic
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I meant a full factory reset after upgrading from LP ?

I have same SoT time like LP.
Can't understand what's wrong with others.
2.5hr that's insane....

Me too ... My battery sucks...i niticed that the drain is more visible in mobile data. I don't know if gsam battery make a correct read in mm but it siad that"system logd" eats battery. In WiFi is side by side with android system but on mobile data is double. A bad joke this update. I wait root appears for lg mm and get rid of this . also chrome and Google now use more battery like before. Where is doze...after night usually I lose 5-6% now 12-13%. It's always like this ... I make the same mistake upgrading to lollipop from KitKat with HTC m8 and go worst. Now the same. Goodbye updates from me. I stay with the original software. I love android but here always sucks ... In the meantime for example my battery lost 3% when I wrote that ?

Hani88 said:
I meant a full factory reset after upgrading from LP ?
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Yep, I factory reset and reinstalled everything, still poor battery

3 h SOT here too but with greenify (donation version) I reach 4 h.
By the way it's ridiculous..

By the way after I make the factory reset I run gsam monitor with no app inside... The same system logd system dbox or something are in line with the screen. So it's not a misbehaving app it's only a bad implementation of mm made by lg. They want to be the first but they become the worst.

are you using V20b or V20a ??
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Radiohead81 said:
By the way after I make the factory reset I run gsam monitor with no app inside... The same system logd system dbox or something are in line with the screen. So it's not a misbehaving app it's only a bad implementation of mm made by lg. They want to be the first but they become the worst.
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let me tell you something dude
If you want to get a less battery eater screen you have two solutions :
- Go back to fHD screens like Sony Xperia phones
- Go to amoled panel like note 5 with all of it famous weaknesses (SOT = 5.5 - 6 max )
For me a powerbank is the best solution to enjoy this beautiful screen of G4

Hy dude... I was talking about some background process that apear after mm update. even with this doze mode my phone running out of juice faster in stand by. I don't get your opinion ... You think that with lollipop I have a different screen? Before the update I get easily 4 h sot with some coc playing.

I guess we must wait for MM to get some software updates and optimization .. For now the best is to roll back to LP like i did and wait

you guys are doing something very wrong, my H815 battery life is insane, with heavy use, I cannot run down the battery in a 16 hour day! - I go to bed and the phone is still on over 40% - running stock newest marshmallow 20B with a few tweaks

How you do this ? My battery lasts only 2h screen on time

And how do you get v20B ? I am on v20A and it shows me that i dont have update

Why does this phone use so much battery while idle?

The question is very tongue-in-cheek. I really love this phone, but the battery life is nothing like a Moto E that my kids use as a WiFi house phone.
The Moto E will sit mostly idle for an entire week, WiFi on the whole time, an hour and a half-ish of SOT, and battery will be 15%. After 7 days.
My ZF2 can only sit idle/wifi for about 2 days even though its battery is ~1000mah larger. My old LG G2 could do 5 or 6 days.
I've experimented with stock and Cm13 with similar results. I'm not looking for 8 hours SOT, I want to take my phone camping and know I can get calls or make calls when necessary. (Odds are, I'll hijack my kids' phone for the trip - but I shouldn't have to do that!)
I guess I'm wondering if this kind of idle drain is common with ZF2? Is it the Intel SOC? Is it screen/touch drivers? Something just seems real strange...

I wonder the same. My Zf2 uses more juice idling on wifi overnight than my iphone 5 uses idling for a week.

somesay because the processor, Intel SoC(bad).
somesay because asus poorly customise the phone.
somesay because it had poor screen.
the answer is really uknown....

It's because of cache memory getting filled up after a longtime use or frequent rom update. always wipe cache atleast once in a month or after every flash.
Steps: (if u are still in zenfone stock firmware with OTA updates)
1. Turn off you Zenfone 2
2. Press and hold Power button + Volume Up together for few seconds.
3. When the phone is vibrating, release the Power button. You will see Normal boot and Recovery boot options to select.
4. You can select Normal boot or Recovery boot by pressing Volume up/down button. To enter Recovery mode choose Recovery boot.
5. You will see sleeping android robot. Press Power button + Volume Up and release the buttons. You are now in Recovery mode.
6. If the 5th option does not work for you, press and hold Power button, then (while holding power button) quickly press Volume Up and release and then release power button.
Use vol up/down to navigate to wipe cache and select using power button. Wait for 8 - 10 minutes until it is complete.
7. Now, to exist from recovery mode, just select reboot option or press and hold the power button for a few seconds to force it to reboot.
This really works and gives you the Battery life as it was on its new phone.
Hit THANKS if this has helped you.

Seems like pretty much every android phone and tablet ive used.
The longer you own it the worse the standby drain gets...and then the manufacturer gets blamed, software "bloat" gets blamed, everything gets blamed except the one thing that should be blamed...google's services running in the background chewing up battery but giving under "play services". All the nexus devices i've owned have been no different.

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6. If the 5th option does not work for you, press and hold Power button, then (while holding power button) quickly press Volume Up and release and then release power button.
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Thanks for that hint. I'm new to ZF2 doesn't know till now how to clear cache from recovery caused by the update fail in recovery.
It maybe better to root stock rom just for amplified and grenify with xposed, kept alot more power on my other devices.

I think the problem lies in android lollipop and x86 architecture ..... Arm architecture is still the best (maybe, kyro will be better)
Once we get marshmallow the idle battery drain shall be gone , so shall be the notifications too!!!
Its just that you cannot get moto e like battery but still there are one plus users with custom kernels getting 6+ hour sot and 3 day idle longevity
So there shall be hope for someone to make a new kernel especially for x86
Btw, use echoerom just google "echoe rom zenfone 2" thats a asus stock based rom so you wont miss zen ui too, and has got good performance and battery for some reasons.

Don't know what you're doing wrong but my son's has been on standby for almost 5 days with 25% remaining.

I would blame 5.0, I haven't tested custom roms like CM, but let's hope it goes away in 6.0. My battery standby looses about 10-15% in 8 hours on standby. I use Superzen and I'm on. 139

I don´t know what I´m doing wrong ... the battery life on my zf if good to excelent.

If most phones could be tested out for one month of before buying, most of them wouldn't be bought. this ZF2 has many issues that they still haven't fixed with OTA's. I'll never own another one, I'll go back to Samsung on my next one.

sdrawkcab3 said:
The question is very tongue-in-cheek. I really love this phone, but the battery life is nothing like a Moto E that my kids use as a WiFi house phone.
The Moto E will sit mostly idle for an entire week, WiFi on the whole time, an hour and a half-ish of SOT, and battery will be 15%. After 7 days.
My ZF2 can only sit idle/wifi for about 2 days even though its battery is ~1000mah larger. My old LG G2 could do 5 or 6 days.
I've experimented with stock and Cm13 with similar results. I'm not looking for 8 hours SOT, I want to take my phone camping and know I can get calls or make calls when necessary. (Odds are, I'll hijack my kids' phone for the trip - but I shouldn't have to do that!)
I guess I'm wondering if this kind of idle drain is common with ZF2? Is it the Intel SOC? Is it screen/touch drivers? Something just seems real strange...
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Actually since I bought my phone, it took me only 3% for every 7 hours. It's even as low as an Iphone
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Twotems said:
Don't know what you're doing wrong but my son's has been on standby for almost 5 days with 25% remaining.
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This. I dont know why so many people complain about Zenfone 2's battery life. I am a very detailed use, I checked the battery percent every night before going to bed, and based on my data, my phone will stay idle for 9.7 days before it's gone flat
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darklink987 said:
I would blame 5.0, I haven't tested custom roms like CM, but let's hope it goes away in 6.0. My battery standby looses about 10-15% in 8 hours on standby. I use Superzen and I'm on. 139
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To be honest, I would consider it a big failure if you spend 15% for 8 hours of stand by, especially you're rooted, which means you should have be capable of doing much more than I do...

Chocketbear said:
If most phones could be tested out for one month of before buying, most of them wouldn't be bought. this ZF2 has many issues that they still haven't fixed with OTA's. I'll never own another one, I'll go back to Samsung on my next one.
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Bye, bye and don't let the door hit you on your way out! My Zenfone 2 is better than any Samsung I've ever owned regardless of price.

Twotems said:
Don't know what you're doing wrong but my son's has been on standby for almost 5 days with 25% remaining.
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That would be great!
Mind posting a screen shot of your battery screen? Or let me know what the top 3 drains are on his phone. It may give me a clue about where the drain is coming from.

sdrawkcab3 said:
That would be great!
Mind posting a screen shot of your battery screen? Or let me know what the top 3 drains are on his phone. It may give me a clue about where the drain is coming from.
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Here you go. Greenify and Autostart Manager only. This is the 2GB Z550ML model but my ZE551ML is the same.

You guys are all wrong. It's Obama's fault. Damn you Obama!
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There is something fishy about this phone. Not all zenfones have good battery life. Some ZF2 has very good battery life, some ZF2 has battery drain like hell. Since the os and the firmware is same, I have doubt that every zenfone 2 has same quality battery (or does every phone has 3000mAh battery actually?)

sdrawkcab3 said:
The question is very tongue-in-cheek. I really love this phone, but the battery life is nothing like a Moto E that my kids use as a WiFi house phone.
The Moto E will sit mostly idle for an entire week, WiFi on the whole time, an hour and a half-ish of SOT, and battery will be 15%. After 7 days.
My ZF2 can only sit idle/wifi for about 2 days even though its battery is ~1000mah larger. My old LG G2 could do 5 or 6 days.
I've experimented with stock and Cm13 with similar results. I'm not looking for 8 hours SOT, I want to take my phone camping and know I can get calls or make calls when necessary. (Odds are, I'll hijack my kids' phone for the trip - but I shouldn't have to do that!)
I guess I'm wondering if this kind of idle drain is common with ZF2? Is it the Intel SOC? Is it screen/touch drivers? Something just seems real strange...
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Do they have facebook and facebook messenger set up and running ? and you ?
i found these apps to be battery drainers when i used to have a facebook account.
Did you have a look at wakelock detector/better battery stats ?

Twotems said:
Here you go. Greenify and Autostart Manager only. This is the 2GB Z550ML model but my ZE551ML is the same.
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But do you have Facebook messenger, Facebook and Snapchat installed? Those are all battery hogs and are unoptimized as hell on Android compared to their IOS versions. I would also blame those, even with greenify.
EDIT: Quoted the wrong person, sorry for that, I fixed it now.

Twotems said:
Bye, bye and don't let the door hit you on your way out! My Zenfone 2 is better than any Samsung I've ever owned regardless of price.
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Well this is cute, why don't you do a little Google searching on ZENFONE 2 issues before opening your hole? and not to mention the fact that their support is really lacking much like your knowledge!!

Moto G5 battery life

The Moto G5's battery is absolutely dog s*** can't believe that people are getting over a day with this phone. When the phone's screen is off that's when it great. When it's on it's crap!! Help?

Could you share your screen on time? I am still satisfied with battery performance of my moto g5, even though the battery is not large enough and the chipset really consume a lot of power,

aaronboy205 said:
The Moto G5's battery is absolutely dog s*** can't believe that people are getting over a day with this phone. When the phone's screen is off that's when it great. When it's on it's crap!! Help?
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Don't know what you're doing but I use my phone non stop all day and right now after I unplugged it at 7am this morning I still have 66% left at 4pm
Obviously if you are playing high demanding games it will drain quicker but Iv been using wifi and apps all day no problems

TheFixItMan said:
Don't know what you're doing but I use my phone non stop all day and right now after I unplugged it at 7am this morning I still have 66% left at 4pm
Obviously if you are playing high demanding games it will drain quicker but Iv been using wifi and apps all day no problems
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I haven't played games?! I don't know what's happening

Is this good?

TheFixItMan said:
Don't know what you're doing but I use my phone non stop all day and right now after I unplugged it at 7am this morning I still have 66% left at 4pm
Obviously if you are playing high demanding games it will drain quicker but Iv been using wifi and apps all day no problems
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Have u got an update on Moto G5?

aaronboy205 said:
Have u got an update on Moto G5?
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Here's mine if you want to compare
Get an app which shows wake lock settings - you can see what apps are keeping your phone awake
Iv rooted my phone & use lineageos

TheFixItMan said:
Here's mine if you want to compare
Get an app which shows wake lock settings - you can see what apps are keeping your phone awake
Iv rooted my phone & use lineageos
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I've got stock ROM waiting for a update that could fix my problem!

aaronboy205 said:
The Moto G5's battery is absolutely dog s*** can't believe that people are getting over a day with this phone. When the phone's screen is off that's when it great. When it's on it's crap!! Help?
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Actually, the battery is quite good. Even with stock ROM. Even with .15 ROM (that's what I have right now).
But I have disabled Moto Display and few other things, perhaps this helps a bit.
You should try to find out what eats your battery. In worst case, try Factory Reset.

bookworth said:
Actually, the battery is quite good. Even with stock ROM. Even with .15 ROM (that's what I have right now).
But I have disabled Moto Display and few other things, perhaps this helps a bit.
You should try to find out what eats your battery. In worst case, try Factory Reset.
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Thanks but don two factory reset

Yes the battery is **** , I use custom ROMs on my phone with ambient display the battery was **** its the same with moto notification display drains AF I get decent sot of max of 5hrs which is average on stock 4 on los
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Also I tested a 1a charger on their g5 the charging is a lot slower but the battery life is much better

awake pretty much all the time
As my phone is not rooted , how can i find which app is waking the device?

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As my phone is not rooted , how can i find which app is waking the device?
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Get an app that tells you what apps have wakelock permissions & how often the wakelock is triggered by an app

TheFixItMan said:
Get an app that tells you what apps have wakelock permissions & how often the wakelock is triggered by an app
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just got the Wakelock detector lite

I'm really sorry for creating the [email protected] account as ive forgotten the password for my main account (leose).
Gyus please take a look at the screenshots . Do you think everything looks ok?

leose said:
I'm really sorry for creating the [email protected] account as ive forgotten the password for my main account (leose).
Gyus please take a look at the screenshots . Do you think everything looks ok?
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Looks perfectly normal to me

With some routers my battery goes down when display off. Solution: wi-fi off when at sleep.

How does this looks?

leose said:
How does this looks?
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Unknown as you have pulled the stats just after unplugging the phone from power

Don't know if any one noticed but the moto g5 kernel has performance as the default scheduler. Not really the best for battery life at all.

New Android 10 update

Hi Developers,
Massive respect for you all. i just want to know one thing before i Update to Android 10 from 9. I normally stay on 2.5 to 2.8 GB Ram on Android v9 but my question is if i update it to 10 is it going to reduce Free ram (Which i have on Android v9 - 2.5 to 2.8 GB). is it a good idea for me to update Rom to Android 10? i dont want to feel bad after i update and my Ram Uses are then High on android 10. please help advise me.

No reduce. I got now 3 gb of free ram. Installing android 10 yesterday.

BaskijskiSeparatysta said:
No reduce. I got now 3 gb of free ram. Installing android 10 yesterday.
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But i am getting only 2.4 gb ram with no apps in the background. It reduces to 1 to 1.5 gb with apps in ram.

ginorocKZZ said:
But i am getting only 2.4 gb ram with no apps in the background. It reduces to 1 to 1.5 gb with apps in ram.
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When no apps in background i got 3.5 - 3.6 gb of free ram. Its more when i use Pie.

Good morning! Please,did anyone lost their data after this upgrade without a backup?

Anybody getting excessive battery drain since Android 10 upgrade? I had an 18% from from 89% to 71% over 6 hours last night. No new apps installed etc. Cleared cache this morning to see if that will help

Don't worry about high ram use.
Its there to be used.
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G1032 said:
Anybody getting excessive battery drain since Android 10 upgrade? I had an 18% from from 89% to 71% over 6 hours last night. No new apps installed etc. Cleared cache this morning to see if that will help
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Report back after a day or two. Let the update settle a bit.
If it's still the same, recalibrate your batter by first fully draining phone till it powers off.
Then recharge phone t0 100% without turning on.
Once its 100% full, then keep the charger plugged it and power on phone.
Once again drain toll it shuts down.
If battery calibration doesn't help then factory reset your phone. This will delete your data so backup critical data

elawure said:
Good morning! Please,did anyone lost their data after this upgrade without a backup?
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no i did not lost data after update.

elawure said:
Good morning! Please,did anyone lost their data after this upgrade without a backup?
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ginorocKZZ said:
But i am getting only 2.4 gb ram with no apps in the background. It reduces to 1 to 1.5 gb with apps in ram.
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Run Device Manager once a while. I am getting more then 3 gb now. also battry backup is awesome now.

Android 10 update issue
I upgraded my a70 into android 10. After upgrading I feel its faster than previous... PUBG runs smoothly... But a problem has been anoying me... Screenshot option not working ... Anyone help me?

Sar0z said:
I upgraded my a70 into android 10. After upgrading I feel its faster than previous... PUBG runs smoothly... But a problem has been anoying me... Screenshot option not working ... Anyone help me?
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It's working, you just have to press volume down and power button at the same time and do not hold it too long. Hold it just for a second.

fizzingbees said:
Don't worry about high ram use.
Its there to be used.
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Report back after a day or two. Let the update settle a bit.
If it's still the same, recalibrate your batter by first fully draining phone till it powers off.
Then recharge phone t0 100% without turning on.
Once its 100% full, then keep the charger plugged it and power on phone.
Once again drain toll it shuts down.
If battery calibration doesn't help then factory reset your phone. This will delete your data so backup critical data
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Did battery calibration. 7% standby battery drain in 7 hours. Not great but I'll live with it

G1032 said:
Did battery calibration. 7% standby battery drain in 7 hours. Not great but I'll live with it
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Roll back to Android 9 if you can
As Android 10 has been recalled worldwide over software bug related to battery and charging pcb