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Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.
No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?
This is an easy one. Galaxy Note 2 all the way! I will admit that the Nexus looks more attractive than in previous leaked pics but still for the aforementioned reasons, I'm sticking with the Note.
Exactly what I thought when I read the news. I got a Note and a GNex and I go back and forth. I do find I use my Note more though so I'm keeping my pre-order for the Note 2.
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Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.
No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?
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I will want to read reviews but I will check them both out again in a T-Mobile store asap & may get both to see which I use more/like more..
The https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_16gb is the best looking LG handset (check out video at http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/nexus-4-leaked-on-video/ & http://www.google.com/nexus/4/) I've seen with good (I actually usually prefer IPS & this will have higher PPI-hopefully the speaker won't suck like prior Nexus smartphones) although obviously not perfect specs (no expandable storage etc) but is priced well. The Note2 S-pen & software are pretty unique so I wonder if I will keep both
I also want to read the reviews on: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_10_16gb as I'm not sure I'm feeling the Win8 tablet I briefly played with the other day at BestBuy.
Feelin' like a Google FanBoy today: https://play.google.com/store/devices
Even the chromebook ( https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_samsung_wifi ) is priced to sell & I actually use the Cr-48 Google sent me more than I expected..may get one for my 9 yr old niece..
BTW, interesting video look at: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3568784/nexus-10-preview-price-release-date
I feel that different manufactures are realizing that getting updates out are a big deal to the buyers now. And even so there is always a way to get the new software on non nexus devices. My big issue with the nexus line is that I enjoy keeping my music on my phone, and that 16 gigs just cuts it to close storage wise. Also at this point no LTE is a little ridiculous, even the iPhone has it now lol.
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I feel that different manufactures are realizing that getting updates out are a big deal to the buyers now. And even so there is always a way to get the new software on non nexus devices. My big issue with the nexus line is that I enjoy keeping my music on my phone, and that 16 gigs just cuts it to close storage wise. Also at this point no LTE is a little ridiculous, even the iPhone has it now lol.
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I agree it's not the greatest trend to exclusively rely on the cloud but have you tried:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.music
"Access your entire music library instantly with the Google Play Music app, and save your favorites for offline playback"
https://play.google.com/music/listen
How much music do you want to keep locally?
Movies-video is much more of a storage hog..:
Yeah I person don't keep to much music but am known to download the high end games that take up space to. I guess I just like the piece of mind of knowing I can add a card to my phone. Especially since I just got away from the iPhone scene lol.
This article on forum.xda-developers.com gives the light in which we can observe the reality. regards
No LTE, not even 42Mbps DC-HSPA just 21Mbps. No expandable storage and crappy LG camera sensor. I'm sticking with my Note 2 decision.
gtalum said:
Now I have a dilemma. I'm very tempted to cancel my Note II pre-order for the Nexus 4, unlocked.
No LTE, no S-Pen, and no additional storage, but wireless charging, frequent updates, and no contract. Oh Google, why do you tease me so?
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Easy. Nexus or Nothing.
Nexus: Google software, Google updates
AT&T Note II: All of Samsung's usual software quality control issues (Such as inability to properly deliver "Project Butter" in its entirety on Exynos 4412 - Seriously, even the GNex UI responsiveness beats it!), plus all the bugs AT&T loves to throw in. You can absolutely count on AT&T firmwares to be steaming turds.
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Easy. Nexus or Nothing.
Nexus: Google software, Google updates
AT&T Note II: All of Samsung's usual software quality control issues (Such as inability to properly deliver "Project Butter" in its entirety on Exynos 4412 - Seriously, even the GNex UI responsiveness beats it!), plus all the bugs AT&T loves to throw in. You can absolutely count on AT&T firmwares to be steaming turds.
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As I agree 100% with you Entropy; the devices appeal to different markets. You have almost an inch screen size different.
Pro's and Con's of both devices. Apples to oranges. I myself will be getting both. Why not!? The nexus is only 349$ that's cheap, and 299$ if you get the 8gb.
My opinion. If you can afford the Note. Get the Nexus as well. I'll run the Note as my personal phone and Nexus as my work phone.
The only thing for this LGN4 is 4.2 and updates support as it usually follow... :good: that's it... dev will port note 2 all the wait...
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The only thing for this LGN4 is 4.2 and updates support as it usually follow... :good: that's it... dev will port note 2 all the wait...
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As he said Samsung can't even get butter right on the 4412. (If you dont know what the 4412 is google it, learn something new.) CM has pretty much dropped support. Seeing new light and the exynos becoming open source might change this however.
Fingers crossed at least. Because touchwizz straight up sucks.
Am I missing something? I player with the tmobile gnote 2 and it ran as smoothly if not smoother then my nexus 7 so how did they get project butter wrong?
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As he said Samsung can't even get butter right on the 4412. (If you dont know what the 4412 is google it, learn something new.) CM has pretty much dropped support. Seeing new light and the exynos becoming open source might change this however.
Fingers crossed at least. Because touchwizz straight up sucks.
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Yes, I heard exynos 4412 stopped dev right at the door... I love to flash a much better rom but, hmm... guess I just can't stand without card slot... 4.1 is good enough from now for me...
Still sticking with my note 2 pre-order. The gn4 looked nice except the storage options... just as bad as the note2 but at least I can throw in an sd card for my media. I will probably end up buying the gn4 or something similar to use in situations that might ruin my note2... like cycling, running, day at the beach. You get the idea. Hard to argue with a phone that has good specs and is really cheap by todays standards for off contract.
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My opinion. If you can afford the Note. Get the Nexus as well. I'll run the Note as my personal phone and Nexus as my work phone.
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I agree, and what I also have in mind. Having said that, if I had to choose either or, I don't know what I'd do.
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Easy. Nexus or Nothing.
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Why are you posting here?
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AT&T Note II: All of Samsung's usual software quality control issues (Such as inability to properly deliver "Project Butter" in its entirety on Exynos 4412 -
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What are you referring to here? Device hasn't even launched yet.
I'm still torn and undecided. Having the best features of 4.2 implemented in the updated Search app tilts things in favor of the Note 2.
I really like the idea of the Nexus 4 but I don't think I want to go another 2 years without LTE, nor do I want to be limited to 16 GB on the device. I could live with the 16GB limitation if the N4 had LTE.
I remain really impressed with the N4 price point & its hardware aesthetics but the Note2 is still more versatile if you can put up with the size & plasticky build (I'd slap a case on it but I do wish it had a more premium exterior). I look forward to seeing them side by side in a T-Mobile store on 11/14 & may trial them both if the N4 is as impressive in person. If the N4 loud-speaker sucks like prior Nexus devices it would be a deal breaker for me but I prefer IPS' more natural colors personally. I also want to see reviews including battery life etc..I'm sure they will be pitted against each other.
I hope the US Note2 gets the split screen multitasking-multview soon : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h12245evQ4w as well as advertised screen screen recorder function http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j-oTLGPUEY & the S-Pen functionality can't be matched
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/...-gesture-keyboard-multiple-users-photo-sphere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66-4uMQqerA
I'm not sure where the right place is to put this question.
It's a real question for me, dominated by the fact that the specs look pretty similar (except no. Locked bootloader etx) , but the price will be significantly lower. Of. Course we don't have the facts yet, but I'm holding off until the nexus 6 announcement before pulling the trigger on one of them.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity tablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
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In every Note forum there are always a slew of people who obviously are consumption users that don't need/want/care about all the features that, to me, are what make a Note a "Note."
Here's an interesting survey...
Clearly 35% would be better off without S Pen and 40% wouldn't miss it terribly if it weren't there. For them, like OP, any big screened phone would do.
Here's the current supposed specs of the Nexus 6...
The Nexus 6 is all but a secret at this point with a multitude of leaks telling us everything we needed to know about the handset. The smartphone is expected to be packing a 5.9 inch Quad HD display, a 13-megapixel camera with OIS, 3GB of RAM, a Snapdragon 805 chipset, a refined version of Android L (Android 5.0) and a mammoth 3,300 mAh battery. It could be shown off sometime later this month, possibly during Halloween. Google announced the Nexus 5 quietly during Halloween last year, so there’s no reason why the trend shouldn’t continue this year.
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/10/motorola-nexus-6-hits-fcc-certification-98187#z8pV1eRuP2vkzxdm.97It's pretty close to the Note 4. But... Google's camera's have always sucked, the display will most likely be decent but not fantastic, and battery life will probably be worse because, for some reason, Google has a hard time tuning battery usage on their own phones. Add to that it won't have expandable storage and most likely come in 32/64GB versions. Second but... The 32GB version will probably be $499-549 which undercuts the Note 3 by almost $300 which for those that could care less about S Pen and the faults I listed makes it a great value. That and it'll get updated directly from Google are its two biggest benefits over the Note 4.
My biggest issue so far in thinking about a Nexus 6 (or whatever it will be called) is the fact that Samsung/AT&T has been locking down the Note to the point where they void the warranty as soon as the knox is tripped.
That and the fact that the Note 2 is my third Samsung device and I want to try a different route.
They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Sight unseen I'd bet anyone here the camera's worse, the display not as good, and the battery life poorer. Those traits are more or less "Nexus things" unless something changes this round. Now whether this time with Motorola it's different is a wild card. But there were a ton of issues with the first Moto X when it came out (I don't know if they all got resolved, I don't follow Motorola). And a potentially huge not "the same" is the lack of external storage. Want to show off full res vids on that spiffy new QHD display? You better have a 128GB external MicroSD, be on an old AT&T unlimited plan, or get on the "pay for 15GB, get 30GB" plan before it expires. I'm not bashing the Nexus 6 (especially because you can't bash vapor ) just saying they've never been the "same." Where they win hands down is value and that probably won't change this round.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Stock Android and Touchwiz are the same? I'm sorry, but I don't agree. At all.
IMO, the two devices can't be more different.
I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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Yeah bro, I can almost bet anything that the Note 4 screen will kill the Nexus 6 screen. Not only are Nexus screens of lower quality compared to the competition (to cut costs), but it will also most likely be a LCD. Which I don't like compared to SAMOLED anyway.
I'm curious to see which direction you go, but the Note 4 is a killer package. I have played with it a few times at my local Best Buy.
Good luck!
I have gone into so many best buys to try out the Note 4 and I think it's lovely. ( I wouldn't buy the edge as I think it will be difficult to sell 2nd hand down the road.) But sometimes I need a change (and frankly the 4 is not that different to my Note 3). I'm sure I will buy both... But, Highlander, there can be only one (and as I mentioned above Sammy has won every other battle)...
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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DING DING DING. We have a winner!
It is puzzling to me that people are asking about Moto X and crap vs. a Note 4.
The Note 4 is an S pen enhanced phablet, half the questions are about plain old stock large screen phones. Different audience for the most part. I imagine there are people that will buy the Note 4 just for the size and never touch the things that make it what it is.
Go see nexus 6 section as there is a great discussion on Note 4 v Nexus 6
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Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.
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Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.
i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did
I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7
I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring
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ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.
yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...
Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.
The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.
I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here
Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
I don't see any lag on my note 7. It's very rare
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Soooooo, I have the new Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and with news of the recall it has me thinking... I have noticed some serious real life performance issues with simple task on my note 7. Scrolling is laggy, keyboard is too. Apps take a while to open (simple apps like text or even phone calls). I don't know if it will be fixed down the road or not.
I have seen the OnePlus 3 and it has me thinking that I should turn in the note 7 and make the switch. My biggest reservation is that there is no expandable storage.
I would like to get some XDA input on the note 7 vs the One Plus 3. Just not sure what route I should take!
Any input is very much appreciated.
Thanks!
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Lag could be a result from battery problems. My N7 works even better than S7edge. I will chose a replacement for note 7 with note 7 anytime
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You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.
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You should have added ZTE Axon 7.
for 450 EUR (vs 850 EUR for Note 7), Axon 7 is a real competitor.
don't forget that, although all 3 devices have AMOLED screens,
only Note 7 and Axon 7 are QHD;
Oneplus 3 has low FHD resolution.
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Remind me, I forget, what other mobile has the S-pen? one gets what one pays for and those less expensive mobiles will serve their customers very well. What you totally fail to realise is the Note 7 is NOT a bog standard flagship mobile. Its aimed at high end users who will make use of the S-pen, 64GB internal memory and a possible 256GB expandable memory to name just a couple of the Note7's basic characteristics.
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LOL there's no comparison, one is a mid range bog standard phone and one is top quality premium computing device.
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I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire
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I think many chose the note 7 as a complete pack, some for the s pen, some one posted that it would be like comparing cars, there are cheap well equiped fast cars, that do tje job very very well, but then the premium ones that cost much more and have similar characteristics, but much better looks and feel, and yes, some litle things not found in cheaper ones, so, at the end, it is a matter of taste, if you can afford what you really like an desire
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I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
I was thinking about getting the OP3 as opposed to the Note 7. But I realized that the OP3 wasn't going to offer me anything new. In fact, it would have offered me less (other than savings in money) considering I was coming off my S7 Edge.
I knew that the OP3 was going to be a temporary workhorse. Rooted, **** ton of roms, then I'd get tired of it after like month 3 then I would end up getting the newest Google device, while regretting not buying the Note 7 yet. Note 7 just has everything that can last me a legitimate year. Expandable storage, fast charging, multi window which i actually utilize every day, s-pen which i actually use many times throughout the day.
Sure, the price is up there. But this note 7 is a long term phone.
I have owned both phones. While I had the op3 since release and the note 7 for less than a month, I have to say the note 7 is auch better phone. I don't really need root, and didn't flash custom ROM on the op3. I used both android pay on the op3 and samsung pay on the note 7 daily and samsung pay is much more convenient. The op3 display isn't bad but the note 7 is noticeable better. I find battery life to be a bit better on the note 7. Both phone got me through a full day with moderate to heavy use but the not tends to have more battery at the end of the day. Dash charge was very convenient on the op3 and it did seem to charge much faster than note 7 (I don't use wireless charging). OxygenOS was a tad better than TouchWiz in terms of less manufacturer bloat, but it's not a deal breaker for me. I don't know if I will keep the note 7 after the new Pixel devices are announced but if I do I can see myself keeping the note 7 for 2 years.
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I m very dissapointed, with the Note 7!!! A big big flop.. and i dont care either for the exploding battery, nor the scratches! I cant believe that after 5-6 years owning a Note, they did not yet managed to eliminate the lag and shutter on the newest.. every year the same Samsung [email protected]
Im going down the OnePlus 3 lane, after trying both of them.. i shared my experience here..
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/26...op-and-why-you-should-buy-a-oneplus3-instead/
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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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Are you using the SD820 version? Because they Exynos flys with no lag or stutter.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.
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I'm thinking about switching to the Exynos version. My carrier is letting me return the SD version because of the recall and I'm thinking might buy an unlocked Exynos version since this one lags.
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I have very little or zero lag or stutter on my Exynos. It's the smoothest Touchwiz phone I've ever used.
I have the exynos model, I have no complaints, very smooth, no lags, I had note 4, and it had many shortcomings, I am real happy with my exynos note7
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Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..
I also have the Snapdragon. Would It be possible to get it switched when I return it? I thought Exynos was only certain areas?? Never heard of it being in USA..
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Yep sadly the Snapdragon.. every year the same [email protected] On my Note 4, i couldnt also believe the difference between the Exynos and the SD, but when i swapped for the Exynos, i was amazed!
Sadly getting an Exynos here in Greece, is kinda difficult @ the moment. Its sad to see Samsung repeating every year the same mistake. Bad memory management, bloated etc..
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I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.
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I originally bought the SD820 version from AT&T in the US. It was slow, lagged so badly, had terrible battery life and I ended up returning it. I replaced it with the G930FD Exynos version and it is a night and day difference!! The Exynos version is so much faster, smoother, the battery life is probably double and I love it. Food for thought.
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Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?
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Wow! That's good to know. So they had an option at AT&T for the Exynos version?? Or you purchased online elsewhere?
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Online elsewhere.
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Online elsewhere.
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Looks like this might be my best bet! Thanks for the help.
Basically, I have always been an Android user back to the early days when XDA was helping users to install Android on their Windows Mobile devices. I akways had devices like Nexus 5, 7, Tab S 8.4, etc. However currently I am terribly depressed with the tablet options out there. I'm not crazy about Samsung experience and apps. I have a Pixel 2 XL I'm pretty happy with.
I never liked Apple much due to the closed nature of their ecosystem. However I always envied their hardware and the simplicity and high performance. From what I've read, the soon to be replaced iPad pro processor A10x easily beats Samsung's shiny new Tab S4 processor Snapdragon 835. Lately, it seems like iOS has opened up a bit slightly... But still can't do all the things Android can do.
So my question is, based on my background... Do you think I would enjoy the Tab s4? For what reason did you choose to hand Samsung over so much money vs the tried and true iPad? I am hesitant to drop so much money on the same processor running on my phone from a year ago. What are your thoughts on the S4?
Also I would be buying the LTE Verizon version to use on TMobile. Does root work there too?
It's the same question I had, but I've always been an android user and in the end I took this tab, even if the latest ipad (not Pro) seems to be a bargain and even supports the pencil.
I can tell you the experience is very good, great battery, great screen, and also dex behaves very well (even if reviews say the opposite). The pen is very well implemented and when you get used to it, it's really a bonus, even if now you think you don't need it.
But I've never tried an ipad and probably it's wonderful, with better apps (they're expensive, but if you don't buy the pro you have a lot of money to spend for the apps).
Also keep in mind that the ipad can't wirelessly mirror the screen to a TV and can't read a Ntfs usb stick.
In the end I don't think you'll be disappointed whatever choice you'll take, it's just up to you to understand which tab better suits to your needs.
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I had a lot of doubts like you too. To be honest, I would probably not have bought it if not for the free upgrade to 256gb in my region. Regardless, it is a great tablet to me, beautiful, quite snappy (way way better than Tab S3) and has an awesome screen. Regarding Android apps, you should probably be aware too, most apps are going to say 'it's not optimised for your device' in the playstore but they are usable nevertheless.
DeX mode is really cute too, seeing it 'turns' into a pesudo mini laptop which may or may not be useful to you. This is part of the reason I bought it too to use as a partial laptop
Bottomline, Tab S4 is a much better buy for me compared to the Tab S3 which I bought for only slightly cheaper 1.5 yrs ago (only 32gb storage and laggy as hell!!).
Thanks guys. I am leaning towards getting the Tab S4 LTE because I want more freedom over the iPad.
How has the battery life been? Does anyone know if the LTE can get rooted same as the WiFi? I'm planning to buy Verizon version
I would not buy it, because of lack of fingerprint and most probably ****ty development
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I would not buy it, because of lack of fingerprint and most probably ****ty development
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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First time i saw my S3 i was suprised how good it look, but some times after i was disappointed. Fingerprint is working like in 2015 flagships, performance is not as good as i expect, performance is poor (on stock it is extremely slow, on linege or treble roms little bit better but still laggy when compared to e.g my OnePlus 5T).
Only good things in this tablet is screen, and nothing else. I'am thinking about switching to Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 or Google Pixel C
Stay away from it if you're going to use it in portrait mode, it suffers from crooked/slanted scrolling on text heavy pages, really annoying.
Its awesome tablet. Almost have working twrp already
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Its awesome tablet. Almost have working twrp already
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Any idea if it will work on LTE? - TWRP / Root
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Any idea if it will work on LTE? - TWRP / Root
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I should work the same
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First time i saw my S3 i was suprised how good it look, but some times after i was disappointed. Fingerprint is working like in 2015 flagships, performance is not as good as i expect, performance is poor (on stock it is extremely slow, on linege or treble roms little bit better but still laggy when compared to e.g my OnePlus 5T).
Only good things in this tablet is screen, and nothing else. I'am thinking about switching to Xiaomi Mi Pad 4 or Google Pixel C
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Google pixel is even more ancient.
Where can you buy the xiaomi? Doesn't show up on Amazon
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Google pixel is even more ancient.
Where can you buy the xiaomi? Doesn't show up on Amazon
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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Thanks guys. I am leaning towards getting the Tab S4 LTE because I want more freedom over the iPad.
How has the battery life been? Does anyone know if the LTE can get rooted same as the WiFi? I'm planning to buy Verizon version
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That's one thing I'm a bit afraid of. Without strong developer community we will be stuck on whatever OS Samsung updates to.
Has your Tab S3 LTE been going well?
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Battery life is great, I can get 12 hours SOT (no games, just surfing the Web and reading).
Development could be good, we have a snapdragon 835 which is quite supported. Anyway Samsung features are a great value for me (S Pen is very well implemented) and IMHO they are more important than getting 1 or 2 more releases of android. I have a Note 8.0 tablet with android 4.4.4 and it still works perfectly, I never needed to upgrade to LineageOS Nougat even if it was available.
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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I disagree with that the S4 is comparable and with further tweaking it will be even better. The pixel c was awesome and I loved it but too old now
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I disagree with that the S4 is comparable and with further tweaking it will be even better. The pixel c was awesome and I loved it but too old now
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Too Old but working better and faster. Even my Nvidia Shield Tablet was faster than Tab S3/S4
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Too Old but working better and faster. Even my Nvidia Shield Tablet was faster than Tab S3/S4
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You had the Tab S3 but it doesn't look like you have the Tab S4? Why are you so sure they are better than Tab S4?
I have both. Tab S3 is indeed crap but Tab S4 is a lot better.
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You had the Tab S3 but it doesn't look like you have the Tab S4? Why are you so sure they are better than Tab S4?
I have both. Tab S3 is indeed crap but Tab S4 is a lot better.
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I've tested S4 for 6 days, and not much changed for me. Lack of fingerprint scanner is disgusting, no more ram and only snapdragon 835. On terms of use, same problems like scrolling lag, etc.
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Yeah, Pixel is older but on stock it runs faster than S3/S4 ever could. And i can buy Xiaomi on alie, my local allegro or on gearbest
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Absolutely not. Pixel C features a Tegra chipset that is not quite very optimized for Android. Also, the Pixel C is a 3-year-old device, not recommended at all.
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Absolutely not. Pixel C features a Tegra chipset that is not quite very optimized for Android. Also, the Pixel C is a 3-year-old device, not recommended at all.
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If you talk to me about optimization, look at S3/S4 performance. UI seems to be laggy, animations are not smooth. In normal use Pixel C seems to work faster, animations are snappy. I have tried Tab S3/S4 and Google Pixel C and i'am going to test Xiaomi mi pad 4. Now am disappointed