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Does anyone plan on upgrading to the 8 pro? Seems like a very incremental upgrade, but I am considering for the screen, and the fact that I absolutely cannot stand GPS navigation on this phone.

Cowbell_Guy said:
Does anyone plan on upgrading to the 8 pro? Seems like a very incremental upgrade, but I am considering for the screen, and the fact that I absolutely cannot stand GPS navigation on this phone.
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What's wrong with your GPS navigation? It's pretty accurate for me.

ej8989 said:
What's wrong with your GPS navigation? It's pretty accurate for me.
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It goes absolutely haywire sometimes a complete 180 sometimes.
I think it is a pretty widespread tissue. Has been reported on OnePlus forums they fixed it in a software update for the 7T pro models .
Glad you aren't having problems

I have the nav problem as well. lasts for a maximum of 5 -10 sec

From 7T to 8 doesn't seem worthy to me ... also, with the introduction of 5G and under display camera around the corner, I think it is better to wait for the T version

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Anyone else having horrible GPS issues?

I live in la... work in production and use my navigation constantly. This is killing me
The GPS doesn't lock reliably and it loses location all the time... usually at the worst possible time of course ?.
I had a one plus McClaren and it had the same issues... actually this phone is worse.
Can't really blame the phone it really seems like its has something to do with the 5g. My pixel 3xl works flawlessly with the same sim.
Turning off 5g doesn't solve the issue for me either. So no easy fix.
Mine is dead on.
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Mine has been off and will not lock quickly sometimes.
socalstagetech said:
I live in la... work in production and use my navigation constantly. This is killing me
The GPS doesn't lock reliably and it loses location all the time... usually at the worst possible time of course ?.
I had a one plus McClaren and it had the same issues... actually this phone is worse.
Can't really blame the phone it really seems like its has something to do with the 5g. My pixel 3xl works flawlessly with the same sim.
Turning off 5g doesn't solve the issue for me either. So no easy fix.
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I had a OP 6T before this s20 Ultra. I had the same issued you did with my 6T as your McLaren.
I do think the Samsung is actually a little bit better than the 6T. The 6T would just randomly stop tracking me and place me on the next road over, etc.
The S20 just stops tracking for a moment then picks right back up. I see issues with it but not like I did with 6T. I also think moving from T-Mo to ATT gives me a more reliable data connection so GPS seems a little better.
I also use my phone for DoorDash and hate these GPS issues.
Some people never see the issue but run 4 to 10 hours a day with GPS and I see it all the time.
BUt to answer your question. Yep, it seems like Android 10 itself is the actual culprit. This is what I have read when I was the 6T. Dont know if there is any truth to that.
S20 Ultra - started experiencing gps issues today too. On and off, and haven't been able to permanently fix yet.
Scott said:
I had a OP 6T before this s20 Ultra. I had the same issued you did with my 6T as your McLaren.
I do think the Samsung is actually a little bit better than the 6T. The 6T would just randomly stop tracking me and place me on the next road over, etc.
The S20 just stops tracking for a moment then picks right back up. I see issues with it but not like I did with 6T. I also think moving from T-Mo to ATT gives me a more reliable data connection so GPS seems a little better.
I also use my phone for DoorDash and hate these GPS issues.
Some people never see the issue but run 4 to 10 hours a day with GPS and I see it all the time.
BUt to answer your question. Yep, it seems like Android 10 itself is the actual culprit. This is what I have read when I was the 6T. Dont know if there is any truth to that.
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My pixel 3xl has android 10 on it and works flawlessly.
Every 5g phone I've tried has had GPS lock issues. T-mobile released an update that was supposed to fix it when I had the one plus 7t pro McClaren and it improved it but definitely didn't fix it.
I have issues with my ultra as well. Using waze it was putting me almost a Mille off I had to stop and restart everything and then it worked. Someone in the S20 sub reddit mentioned it and a bunch of people had the issue as well.
Ya know I hate to bring it up but a scary thought occurred to me...
The gps issues make the find me app almost useless. God forbid you leave or your phone walks off.
If the gps doesn't track correctly that feature is not gonna be reliable.
I don't even know who to blame here...
The device the 5g???
Seems to be pretty obvious its a 5g issue. None of my 4g phones have the gps lock issue.
Why do they even integrate it into the data. Couldn't it run as a standalone? Its got its own antenea doesn't it?
This is so disappointing... i did NOT buy this phone for the 5g but it seems that it might ruin it for me.
My gps is pretty important to me.
socalstagetech said:
If the gps doesn't track correctly that feature is not gonna be reliable.
I don't even know who to blame here...
The device the 5g???
Seems to be pretty obvious its a 5g issue. None of my 4g phones have the gps lock issue.
Why do they even integrate it into the data. Couldn't it run as a standalone? Its got its own antenea doesn't it?
This is so disappointing... i did NOT buy this phone for the 5g but it seems that it might ruin it for me.
My gps is pretty important to me.
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"the 5g???" That's a valid assumption imo, 5G interference(stronger source) against GPS(weaker RF signals)
Scott said:
I had a OP 6T before this s20 Ultra. I had the same issued you did with my 6T as your McLaren.
I do think the Samsung is actually a little bit better than the 6T. The 6T would just randomly stop tracking me and place me on the next road over, etc.
The S20 just stops tracking for a moment then picks right back up. I see issues with it but not like I did with 6T. I also think moving from T-Mo to ATT gives me a more reliable data connection so GPS seems a little better.
I also use my phone for DoorDash and hate these GPS issues.
Some people never see the issue but run 4 to 10 hours a day with GPS and I see it all the time.
BUt to answer your question. Yep, it seems like Android 10 itself is the actual culprit. This is what I have read when I was the 6T. Dont know if there is any truth to that.
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I'm with tmo and sometimes I have these issues on my s10+. Tmo in Miami sucks. I'm also switching to at&t since they have better coverage in South Florida than Tmo.
I'm on the T-Mobile S20 Ultra.
I recently came from the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren edition. GPS would not lock on the McLaren 5G because of 5G. When you disabled it, it would start working again if connected on LTE or WIFI.
Considering someone above tried that already, it might be a few other things:
#1 - Depends on the GPS app you are using. Maps worked best with Google Location Services enabled. Waze has been wonky on all devices lately. It took me 10-15 seconds to get a lock last night as an example but it eventually locked on (unlike the OnePlus McLaren which could go forever until it did).
#2 - Software glitch. Just like the OnePlus McLaren, a patch will be released to fix the issues with GPS and 5G. It was an issue on a lot of 5G variants of phones.
#3 - 5G Interferes with GPS (rumor and speculation by others)
I have the same issue sometimes its fine and other times I'm 600 meters off to the north east. It feels random. When I plug my phone into my android auto it locks right on but according to gps status pro the device thinks its 600 meters off. So when I unplug it shoots me right back to the wrong location.
What’s weird is I used GPS on the phone to drive from Northern to Southern CA on Wednesday. Then I think on the last part of the trip, as I arrived in LA, the GPS lost and couldn’t maintain lock. Yesterday and today GPS lock was nonexistent driving around Ontario, Rialto areas of SoCal. Had to rely on map and directions of Waze and not tracking location.
My GPS is nearly flawless for me - best I have seen on any previous android - and very fast....
Geekser said:
My GPS is nearly flawless for me - best I have seen on any previous android - and very fast....
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You using The International Version? Because the problem is with the Snapdragon chipsets on the U.S. Phones. The Exynos chipsets in the International version don't have this problem.
US unlocked version here, mine is flawless as well
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You using The International Version? Because the problem is with the Snapdragon chipsets on the U.S. Phones. The Exynos chipsets in the International version don't have this problem.
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G988U - Snapdragon - never had an Issue that I am aware of - when I run an apk to test GPS, I pickup all the satelites in seconds- it happens really quick and I haven't noticed any issues -
tell me how I can 'test it" to see if there are issues I am not aware of - but otherwise, it seems really good to me....
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G988U - Snapdragon - never had an Issue that I am aware of - when I run an apk to test GPS, I pickup all the satelites in seconds- it happens really quick and I haven't noticed any issues -
tell me how I can 'test it" to see if there are issues I am not aware of - but otherwise, it seems really good to me....
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Read Article below - If your GPS works fine then your not affected by this problem.
https://thedroidguy.com/galaxy-s20-gps-issues-1124687
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Read Article below - If your GPS works fine then your not affected by this problem.
https://thedroidguy.com/galaxy-s20-gps-issues-1124687
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I guess I am lucky then. I haven't really had any issues with this phone, aside from a little bit of the focus issues that were happening with the camera - those have seemed to gotten better too - and like most previous Samsung PHones the S20 ultra will only get better as more updates are released.
The screen shot below is from the GPS Test apk - in the past, if I tried doing a test indoors, it usualy took a few minutes to acquire satelights - but with my new S20 Ultra - I acquire satelights within seconds of opening the apk. It happens really fast for me....hope yours gets working better in the near future...
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I'm on the US Unlocked Snapdragon and i was definitely having GPS issues. I had GPS Status & Toolbox app installed with the Time to fix status enabled. Almost always between 60 to 90 seconds to get first fix even after doing it repetitively. After the latest firmware update i'm now getting an almost instant fix based on the GPS Status & Toolbox app. I was also having issues with WAZE not locking on for a long time. Google Maps seemed better. WAZE now locks on almost immediately.

General Anyone else Unimpressed?

I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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My last device was a OP 6T, so the OP 9Pro is several years later.....can't say I I'm having a similar experience. The 120hz beautiful display is buttery smooth. I only use wifi at my house and it's been fine. I personally think the camera is WAY BETTER than my 6t. It may not be Google Pixel quality but it's damn close.
My one and only gripe is the battery life. 6 hour average of SOT is not good.
sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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Latest firmware (see sticky)? I have no issues at all. WiFi and Android Auto working fine. Smoother than my 8 pro.
sultan.of.swing said:
I came from a 7 Pro and honestly have been pretty unimpressed with the 9 Pro.
The 7 Pro was probably the first android device that I have had in a long time that didn't give me any issues and the performance from day 1 to this day is amazing.
Now fast Forward I got the 9 pro when it was announced, It feels sluggish in comparison to my 7 pro and has tons of issues with Android Auto.
My biggest complaint is Wifi reception is exceptionally poor, my 7 Pro runs circles around my 9 pro when it comes to wifi reception.
I've tried flashing custom roms on the 9 pro but no matter the device honestly just feels like a turd. So I am back on stock.
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One thing regarding Android Auto: you have to enable developer options and change the standard USB behaviour to File Transfer.
Honestly over the years coming from 8t but started with 5t and having everyone up. the innovation died after 7 pro. just straight led to death(poor leadership). but with hassleblad and big sensors camera now comes into play. as for the rest of the hardware, well its current hardware what else do I say.. Oxygen is oxygen not the device, so software is equally relevant from previous versions... ltpo is an experiment we'll see how that goes. but to answer, generally I agree not impressed but not upset
If not for 5G, I'd have stuck with my 7 pro (I know I could have gotten a 7t pro but I figured I'd spend a bit more and get something new)
So far, it's not knocking my socks off
I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
Disappointed with camera tbh can get some nice shots granted but soon as zoom past 3x it all goes pear shaped all the promo hype prior to release with the moons I was expecting at least half decent shots but zoom is terrible out of focus and we'll just crap really very disappointing and collaboration with hassleblad was basically a marketing gymick to fool us into thinking it's going to be a epic camera , oh we fell for that hook line and sinker , let's hope they can turn it around in future updates , not holding my breath , it's odd the moon was big and bright last night a nice orange tinge and looked a lot closer than when held camera up to get a shot it was much further away looking through camera and to get as close as it looked to the naked eye I had to zoom in 20x and we'll then it's just a fuzzy ball , pointless having zoom if it can't get clear shot really
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I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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Strange. I have none of these issues. Very, very strange.
its getting better, next update will fix other issues which phone has be patient .
things are getting better
alleshi said:
its getting better, next update will fix other issues which phone has be patient .
things are getting better
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Can only hope so , another thing is The difference is pictures like colours taking same picture multiple times theres no consistency Evey one looks different some out of focus some look brighter some look dull or washy think they need to work harder at getting better consistency especially switching back and forth from wide angle etc it's terrible
entropism said:
I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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WTF dude?
A.) You are ****ed up your phone somehow yourself.
Or
B.) It's broken and you should have it replaced. There is a guarantee
Have you ever tried to reset the device and start over?
I read about software bugs in OxygenOS all the time. But somehow I've never had a problem myself. Before the 9Pro, I never had any problems with the OnePlus 3t also.
My 9 Pro works fine, Fast & never hot. It get's a little worm when it charges, but thats normal.
I am uninmpressed with samsung bs & iphose creap.
I agree it's getting better and better. My issue is that it was pretty bad when first released and some of these bugs should have to post release I think. Just my opinion.
It's getting better ever so slightly. But OOS 11 in my opinion never came out of beta. It ruined the 7 series, and honestly, it is hot GARBAGE on the 9 Pro, the UI/UX issues are annoying, things that just haven't been fixed and things that can be replicated on the 8 Pro that I also have.
The hardware is brilliant and some of the best ever imo (better than the iPhone 12 series), but OnePlus is seriously let down nowadays by their poor software and company decisions. Up until 1.5 years ago I had no issues with OnePlus Support, but now it just seems like customer service is the last thing on their agenda. Fairly disappointed but I guess this is the price to pay for their obvious complacency.
I would say the opposite of OP. Came from a 6T which is still going strong (gave to my sister). 9 pro is like WAY BETTER than 6T. The biggest gripe with oneplus has always been cameras but on 9 pro. It's frigging amazing. Initial reviews of camera were bad but they definitely improved it with updates. That's why didn't buy it staright away. The screen is gorgeous & buttery smooth. I love the curved screen. Always wanted one.
Just 2 issues - The battery life is meh. It's like pretty avg or below avg. The other issue is there is stuttering sometimes due to frame drops sometimes.
No issue with colors OS getting merged with OOS if it improves update speed & stability. They can still improve the camera a bit more. Some shutter lag is still there.
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I'm done with it. I love the device itself. The design, the hardware, love it. Hell, even love the pine green color. But the software is a complete clusterfuck of inane bugs and failures. I've never seen a device screw up google assistant before, but here we are. It's the only phone (of the 4 sitting on my desk) that doesn't know who my wife is, when I say "call my wife". Android Auto gets completely borked while driving. It doesn't ring when I get a call. A PHONE THAT DOESN'T RING. I'm in sales, and this is my work phone. This is a disaster. Oh, and the mute switch is bugged too, which is really odd. When the phone comes out of DND mode in the morning, it thinks the mute switch is in the silent position, even though it's (always) set to ring. Just silly.
Really annoyed I spent this much money on a phone I can't even use 2 months later. I went back to my S21, which I'm NOT a fan of. But at least it works as it should.
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I don't use Android Auto, but I never had any problem with the DND mode. Works perfectly every day. OOS 11.2.9.9 has a few minor bugs, but what phone doesn't? I'm mostly happy with my OP9P. Can't fathom where your "disaster" and "clusterfuck" are coming from.
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Can't fathom where your "disaster" and "clusterfuck" are coming from.
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Literally from the exact things I described in my post. Also you're talking about 9.9, my post was from July and the phone has long since been retired.

Question The Pixel 6 Pro absolutely lives up to the hype

My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
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Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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and that search bar so annoying
alleshi said:
and that search bar so annoying
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Yep and no option to change or move it
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Yep and no option to change or move it
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.
It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.
I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.
The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
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It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.
I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.
MArtyChubbs said:
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )
can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.
Sui77 said:
13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet
I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?
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I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.

Question Help me choose my next phone

Hi everyone, so i have a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, and while it is a decent phone, MIUI and the various other issues of this phone made me lose trust in Xiaomi/Redmi and i want to upgrade to a more premium brand/phone.
my options are:
Pixel 6 pro
iphone 13 pro
Oppo Reno 5 Pro
wait for pixel 7 pro
S21 Ultra ( i dislike the s22 Ultra look/grip)
Oneplus 10 pro NOPE
I don't really game on my phone, but battery longevity and top notch performance with best cameras are my requirements but since am listing all premium phones i doubt any will have issues in those points right?
i was thinking of just going for an Iphone 13 Pro, but the switch from android to apple is worrisome as am used to the freedom of customization that Android allows, i am also a Flutter developer and debugging apps on android is much quicker/easier than on iOS, but i can't help but see the iphone 13 series just an all around premium, the look, the grip, its very different.
But if i want to go for a Pixel, shall i just wait for Pixel 7 pro when its released? or just get Pixel 6 Pro
Am very undecided...
If you don't mind oxygenos get the op10pro otherwise get a google pixel 6 pro if I'm not mistaken it's on sale right now
spart0n said:
If you don't mind oxygenos get the op10pro otherwise get a google pixel 6 pro if I'm not mistaken it's on sale right now
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Thank you for your response,
I've never had experience with oxygenos, is it comparable to MIUI?
Also doesn't the pixel 6 pro have several issues with hardware since the pixel 6 pro is the first phone to use googles in-house processor?
I am curious to see what the Nothing Phone delivers.....should be announced soon...
simlol12 said:
Thank you for your response,
I've never had experience with oxygenos, isn't comparable to MIUI?
Also doesn't the pixel 6 pro have several issues with hardware since the pixel 6 pro is the first phone to use googles in-house processor?
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I've had a p6p and my wife has a p6 and we've had zero problems with them. The problems seem to be a hit or miss. And oxygenos is almost clean android
Start at the 7 minute mark for the pertinent content.
android_dan said:
Start at the 7 minute mark for the pertinent content.
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Jeeesus,i can see it in the thumbnail but i saw the video anyway... ye oneplus out!!!
didn't know the Oneplus 10 pro had a new feature: DIY foldable phone!
simlol12 said:
Hi everyone, so i have a Redmi Note 9 Pro Max, and while it is a decent phone, MIUI and the various other issues of this phone made me lose trust in Xiaomi/Redmi and i want to upgrade to a more premium brand/phone.
my options are:
Pixel 6 pro
iphone 13 pro
Oppo Reno 5 Pro
wait for pixel 7 pro
S21 Ultra ( i dislike the s22 Ultra look/grip)
Oneplus 10 pro
I don't really game on my phone, but battery longevity and top notch performance with best cameras are my requirements but since am listing all premium phones i doubt any will have issues in those points right?
i was thinking of just going for an Iphone 13 Pro, but the switch from android to apple is worrisome as am used to the freedom of customization that Android allows, i am also a Flutter developer and debugging apps on android is much quicker/easier than on iOS, but i can't help but see the iphone 13 series just an all around premium, the look, the grip, its very different.
But if i want to go for a Pixel, shall i just wait for Pixel 7 pro when its released? or just get Pixel 6 Pro
Am very undecided...
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I have Pixel 6 Pro now and unfortunately, I am one of those who has many bugs. I switched to the iPhone 13 Pro for a few days and now using the OnePlus 8T until the OnePlus 10 is released. I tried a few iPhones for a week and every time I go back to Android.
ram4ufriends said:
I have Pixel 6 Pro now and unfortunately, I am one of those who has many bugs. I switched to the iPhone 13 Pro for a few days and now using the OnePlus 8T until the OnePlus 10 is released. I tried a few iPhones for a week and every time I go back to Android.
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What made you switch back from Iphone? and what kind of issues did you experience with p6p?
Purchase the Pixel from Google and you have two weeks to return it. Surly by then you can decide yay or nay.
simlol12 said:
What made you switch back from Iphone? and what kind of issues did you experience with p6p?
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I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
it is up to you to decide. we cant decide what phone is best for you as we all look at phone differently. you be your own judge.
ram4ufriends said:
I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
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ram4ufriends said:
I like the clean android experience, so Pixel and OnePlus are my options. With Pixel 6 Pro bugs and OnePlus planning to retire OxygenOS, I wanted to check if I can survive iPhone and I couldn't. I am planning to flash Evolution X ROM on my OnePlus 8T and try it out for few days.
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
Finicky fingerprint.
iPhone issues for me:
Terrible notifications management
No YouTube Vanced
Screen TIme bug and a few other issues
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Well, it sounds like mostly software bugs, hopefully they'll patch em.
Oh man you're right. No YouTube Vanced oof...
Well, you ARE on a google pixel 6 forum...can't imagine what responses you will get. LOL
If you want something that just works and you use it in the way it was designed then the iPhone is a good candidate. If you want something that you can get to how you want it to look the the Pixel 6 Pro would still be my pick of Android devices.
Jumped from OnePlus as they have massively dropped the ball. Their devices are no longer cheap and their software has become very buggy and even slower to get updated.
I'm having the P6P and honestly I'm thinking of switching to samsung.
The phone is good don't get me wrong, but the battery life for me has been quite bad, considering always high mobile network battery drain(40% rn, and no workaround has helped me with that).
It falls down to your preference of which android skin you prefer the most, all of them are great in every requirement that you need, iphone 13pm wins the battery for sure, pixel is better on cameras if you're the kind of people that wants absolutely the most details possible on any level(It's better but not by a lot comparing to other phones).
Performance wise you won't notice difference between any of those, it can be again just the OS being laggy.
I don't know pixel just feels to simple for me, there's not a lot of customization in here, so I've had to root to gain more of what I want from a phone, install the addon features module for that and a couple of others.
So far yes, you can get lucky with the unit, and if you don't mind that pixel is a little bit more simple(kind of like iphone) in comparison with others, you can go for it.
The only 2 things that I hugely dislike about this phone is the battery life and just the simple OS, but I knew what I was going for so it's my fault that I've chose a phone with such limited and simple amount of settings.
I would wait for next samsung/pixel for now, and about current pixel, I cannot say for sure since I'm struggling with battery life, so cannot recommend a phone that I have problems with myself.
The /oneplus/oppo just don't cut it because of their android skins, iphone is better surely, but that's the phone that you'd want if you just want to buy it and use it without thinking about anything else.
I'd say wait and see what the P7P offers if you're not in a rush. Chances are it's going to just be a minor bump compared to the 6, as mobile tech has pretty much reached a peak for the time being. Unless the 2nd gen Tensor completely blows away the 1st gen, but even then probably won't see much difference in terms of every day usage. You could then just grab the p6p, which will probably have a nice discount by that time.
ram4ufriends said:
Pixel 6 Pro Bugs:
Missed calls (Sometimes I don't get a call when my friends try reaching me, no voice mail, no missed call. Happens after a factory reset as well. I miss important calls as well)
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That is actually an issue on the network side, not the phone. Basically the issue is that you connect to one network for data, and it needs to switch to another network for voice. Sometimes that network carrying voice is just not available and the call breaks. For example, if you have an LTE network that doesn't support VoLTE, then when a call comes in it has to switch down to HSPA. I've heard that "5G" networks are in a non-voice state, so they need to fall down to VoLTE or HSPA for a call. The solution is to lock your phone into a network that supports both data and voice. Like LTE with VoLTE enabled.
I had this problem *all the time* with my Pixel 2XL, which my network never authorized for VoLTE.
ram4ufriends said:
Consistent Bluetooth disconnection from my car.
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That was DEFINITELY a problem for a while, but it was a software issue that has been fixed.
ram4ufriends said:
Occasional frame drops. Animations are smooth on Pixel 6 Pro, but it has occasional frame drops.
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Um, hardly worth mentioning.
ram4ufriends said:
Finicky fingerprint.
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Fingerprint is probably not a good unlock method anyway, since it isn't clear if it is protected by the US 5th amendment or similar anti-self-incrimination laws in countries outside the US. GrapheneOS offers a hybrid unlock method that fully disables fingerprint on the lockscreen, but leaves it enabled for other places within the OS.
lesafijndt said:
I'm having the P6P and honestly I'm thinking of switching to samsung.
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Heh, P6P *is a samsuck*. Yes, I'm serious. Its an Exynos SoC+modem with a gooble sticker stuck onto it.
96carboard said:
Heh, P6P *is a samsuck*. Yes, I'm serious. Its an Exynos SoC+modem with a gooble sticker stuck onto it.
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Well, when it comes to hardware part sort of, but not so on software side and features/possibilities

Question I really like my Pixel 6 Pro

I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
love the device so much i took a big financial hit to get rid of my Z fold 3 for one - samsung wont be seeing me for a long time
wulfgarfang said:
I love my P6 pro as well. Although I really hate to say it, the fingerprint on the back of the device like my old P3xl would make this phone flawless for me. But I still love my phone.
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Same. The Pixel 3xl was the best phone ever, and the fingerprint sensor was the best thing about it! They should go back to that model, using through the screen is clunky and causes fingerprints.
metanbeky said:
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
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I use Android Auto every day and I haven't had a problem. Every few years I sometimes run into consistent problems with Android Auto and replacing the cable I'm using (with another high-quality USB 3.x cable) always fixes the issue.
metanbeky said:
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
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I avoided gestures until I got the Pixel 6 Pro. I finally resigned myself and mostly haven't minded it. If you want to continue avoiding using the navbar but want a workaround for swiping up from the bottom, Nova Launcher might give you close to what you want.
If you want to use the navigation bar then Nova Launcher should be able to be configured to completely do what you want with the swipe up from the bottom gesture.
It's fair if you don't want to use a custom launcher, though. I've sworn by Nova for the last 10+ years IIRC. Every time I give something else a try, I go back, and I don't bother trying anything else anymore.
Having used Samsung and OnePlus devices, I love the swipe up to go back feature. It results in far fewer accidental back presses than the default Google ones. For me, it was worth rooting and installing Fluid Navigation Gestures to get that feature on the Pixel 6 Pro.
Yeah, despite it's flaws, the p6pro is a great phone imo.
I got the 256gb model and bought a 30w pixel charger for it. Rooted it the 1st day I got it.
But the Bluetooth cuts out upon connection with my Sony bt headphones.
I'm on a13 DP2 and it's brilliant. Can't use viper tho
I love my p6pro too.
The only real complaint I have is battery life and photo quality. My pixel 2XL had better quality photos that weren't overly processed and were sharper.
Battery life is meh; I feel it drains too quickly and gets overly hot from just web browsing and texting.
I'd like to see more customization within the OS, since Samsung has an array of customization options Google refuses to provide. I don't mind using custom roms for that purpose, but they can be buggy and often break features from stock.
metanbeky said:
I've had my 6 Pro since December. I installed the December patch before it got pulled. I'm coming from a OnePlus 7 Pro that I loved.
The camera is amazing. The screen is great. I really like the call screening feature (which only arrived for me after the January update).
The finger print sensor is milliseconds slower than my OnePlus 7 Pro and is about the same accuracy.
My screen hasn't randomly cracked yet.
Android Auto is random at best (about the same as it was on my OnePlus 7 Pro and my Galaxy S8+ before that) which leads me to believe that Android Auto is not the most reliable but it's not a problem with the phone hardware.
I thought that the cutout would bother me more than it does. I notice it once in a while and I cringe when I see it compared to my OnePlus 7 Pro but even OnePlus doesn't offer a display without obstruction anymore so not many choices there.
Pixel gestures kind of suck. I wish I could go back to using the swipe up from the bottom that I had on my OnePlus 7 Pro but, again, even OnePlus uses the new gestures so there's not much a dude can do about it.
That being said over all I really really like the Pixel 6 Pro. There's some things I guess I don't like about Android and trends in the mobile phone manufacturing industry that I don't love but that's different than the phone.
I think most people will love their Pixel 6 and won't have any issues at all.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still using my OnePlus 7 Pro. Yesterday, I used it for a Zoom meeting and the selfie camera is way better than the crappy one on my computer.
The Pixel 6 looks great. I'd get the Samsung 22,because I've hade Notes in the past, but their privacy policies are really creepy.

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