Hello. I noticed that after the new Android 10 update the galaxy S10 series all got the long exposure camera update in Pro mode and are now capable of shooting up to 3200 ISO and 30 second shutter speed. Sadly the S9 series didn't get so lucky and stayed at the previous limit of 800 ISO and 10 second shutter speed. I don't think that there's a huge hardware difference between both model's primary 12MP cameras so I was quite disappointed that we got left behind. Also I don't think there will be any huge software updates for the S9 series since it's already a 2 year phone, so I was wondering if there could potentially come out a custom camera app that would unlock the current limitations of the camera?
Without full Camera2Api, I don't think it's easy to make a custom camera app which can take 10 second exposure shot, let alone 30 seconds.
But it IS FULL Camera2API. I downloaded the app and it has "FULL" checked and "LEVEL_3" , "LIMITED" and "LEGACY" are all crossed out.
That's weird, for me it's limited. I don't know.
Haven't checked in Android 10 though, might as well do it.
Yeah, the latest One UI 2 with Android 10 shows with Camera2api FULL Hardware Support Level. That's why I'm so confused...
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I got really exited about the new OP Three, there are just a few aspects I don't like, one of them being 120fps filming instead of 240fps. I'm a complete noob, but I'm trying to inderstand why it can't record 240fps videos. As far as I know, our processor (SD820) can manage 240fps (see S7/G5), and I guess our camera sensor can too (IMX298), but I couldn't find that information.
Anyway, previously I was interested in getting slow motion on a DSLR camera (Canon EOS 700D), but I found some reasons why it would't be possible: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/in...r0ic25ieqeee0&topic=11570.msg113776#msg113776
I know there are lots of differences between a smartphone and a DSLR camera, but what I found interesting was this:
3. The internal buses that move the raw data from the sensor to the image processors can't handle that much data (1920*1080*14bit*60fps = 1.7 Gigabits per second)
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OP3 can record [email protected] video, which would require 3840×2160×30fps=248832000 bits/s, while HD 240fps video would require 720×1280×240fps=221184000 bits/s (I'm not taking into account color depth since I assume it'd be the same in both cases).
Furthermore, some time ago, when camera2 api was first released, PkmX achieved 120fps and 4K on a nexus 5, which couldn't officially do that and had a far older sensor.
Since OP3 will be really developer-friendly and its sources are already available, do you think it'll be possible for developers to get 240fps, even on low res videos? Can you think of anything that could be a limitation?
Anyway, if I buy the phone eventually, I'll learn a bit about development and try to get it.
(Maybe I should mention that I found this digging into the sources, but I don't even know if it's related
iamthex said:
do you think it'll be possible for developers to get 240fps, even on low res videos? Can you think of anything that could be a limitation?
Anyway, if I buy the phone eventually, I'll learn a bit about development and try to get it.
(Maybe I should mention that I found this digging into the sources, but I don't even know if it's related
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you know the nexus 5x initially just had 120 fps and now it has a 240 fps mod, but thats due to the fact that google camera had just restricted it directly inthe apk itself, people just edited the google camera and BANG 240 fps on the nexus 5x.. oneplus3 could be a different story. i really wish it had it though, im like so close to buying this phone ! in the end i might just end up with the nexus 6p due to this feature
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you know the nexus 5x initially just had 120 fps and now it has a 240 fps mod, but thats due to the fact that google camera had just restricted it directly inthe apk itself, people just edited the google camera and BANG 240 fps on the nexus 5x.. oneplus3 could be a different story. i really wish it had it though, im like so close to buying this phone ! in the end i might just end up with the nexus 6p due to this feature
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I bought the 3. So far it's not looking good. It looks like the camera2 API implementation is broken for photos and who knows what for video.
They released some source and made a big show about it, but there is still proprietary code they haven't released and may never--they never did with the One which still has no camera2.
Might want to hold out on the 3 for things to settle and by that time the new Sony should be out with a much better sensor.
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I bought the 3. So far it's not looking good. It looks like the camera2 API implementation is broken for photos and who knows what for video.
They released some source and made a big show about it, but there is still proprietary code they haven't released and may never--they never did with the One which still has no camera2.
Might want to hold out on the 3 for things to settle and by that time the new Sony should be out with a much better sensor.
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i already placed my order :\ , i read somewhere that the external apps are working with camera2 api ! i dont remember which thread in xda but its there , one person was not working, others confirmed working
As OnePlus is a smaller company, it's understandable that they may not have the resources to fix all of the bugs, release security updates and work on the Android Nougat update all at the same time.
If you could ask One Plus to concentrate on 1 thing, what would it be?
For me this is easy. Video stabilization is broke at the moment.
Once they fix this, the Android N update would be nice. :angel:
For me. I think videos stabilization is acceptable honestly speaking its not that bad. We can co-op with it as being an average user. And for those of them who wants best in class video quality you better invest in something way better as the camera on oneplus is far better then the competition. And there's practically no drawbacks at all, imo. Speaking of which you won't get better than this in just a budget of Rs. 28k or $400. As the given market standard you have to spend almost double for samsung Sony and triple for the apple devices. So taking the compatibility and user experience in consideration. I think i can pick a oneplus 3 on any day. So in my opinion. OnePlus for the given moment should only concentrate on the nougat update. So that oneplus's flagship get some reputation of providing good and fast updates as doing so will enhance the market reputation and add another reason to get oneplus 3 asap. As if they provide an update within this quarter they will have a hefty amount of time to concentrate the video stabilization. As it is usable but there's nothing better than the best. ?
Random soft reboots of phone, especially when using Bluetooth + GPS like waze
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Front Camera quality, it just sucks. You go to a zone with a bit of a low light and the noise is unacceptable. OPO's front cam was miles better than this crap.
Faster WiFi chipsets , or nougat 7.1
7.1
Better digitizer glass
Camera , image quality and UI interface is really lousy. I always accidentally switch photo mode to video mode when try to zoom in or zoom out .
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I would ask for a stock camera app that all Roms could use.
Better camera than iPhone and Pixel
No doubt.........Android 7 update. Everything else in this phone is ok according to its price.
Rom flashing to be a lot safer & easy. Not like now, Twrp or firmware needs to be reinstal almost on every time you flash a new rom.
Better LTE, phone signal, camera.
Fix not users issue :highfive: like stabilization
I would love to see improvement of built in apps like gallery, music, shelf, launcher, camera, clock and enabling FM radio. More tweaks and cool useful features.
I.e: alarm clock that plays your favourit FM radio instead of tone / editing a ringtone in music app...
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Im happy with everything on my OP3, everything works super well imo.
A well built Android 7 would be great.
As the author of this poll I'm surprised by the results. In other places, there are people that moan that the OP3 is a buggy unsupported mess.
By most users opting for the N update, it proves the device is generally solid and the issues are the minority not the majority of users.
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Why?
I don't really care about V7. I'm more concerned about them screwing up Oxygen OS by making it into Hydrogen OS.
Software wise i just want regular security updates and big fixes. Once they have that down they can worry about messing up the UI and adding useless features.
Pipedream, replace your stock recovery with twrp and stop making me reinstall it after updates.
On the hardware front I just want an SD card. I don't need it obviously but I would prefer it.
I can at least remind you of one consolation while we endlessly wait for an update to match what our international counterparts have gotten; you can download the .apk for the camera in that update now, and enjoy better photos. I emplore you all to do so, it is noticably better.
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I can at least remind you of one consolation while we endlessly wait for an update to match what our international counterparts have gotten; you can download the .apk for the camera in that update now, and enjoy better photos. I emplore you all to do so, it is noticably better.
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What is the version number of the updated camera app? I'm currently running version 3.8.87 on my 7T (Tmo).
3.8.87 is the newest. At least in mine, my version before updating was 3.8.7x. possibly why my photos have been bad this whole time. Some might be on different versions, since the camera app isn't in the play store?
Okay. I pulled 3.8.87 from apkmirror.
I have not noticed any major difference at all between 3.8.87 and older versions. I was always happy with the photos. I only wish wide angle and zoom lenses would be available in Pro mode.
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Okay. I pulled 3.8.87 from apkmirror.
I have not noticed any major difference at all between 3.8.87 and older versions. I was always happy with the photos. I only wish wide angle and zoom lenses would be available in Pro mode.
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For me, I've gotten better main camera photos, roughly the same 2x photos, and DRAMATICALLY better low light photos. Not exactly sure what version I had (I want to say 3.8.75, but it's been better for me personally.
When I converted from TMO to Global 10.0.7, the camera performance was very noticeable. It's actually caused me to start using it as compared to StarCam or GCam.
Some gcam optimized to get the best out of the astrography mode of our pixel 6, I think I can squeeze even more.
Greetings and thanks.
I do not think there is much you can do to make it better!
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I do not think there is much you can do to make it better!
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Ohhh but yes there is.
I've used 40+ versions of gcam mods in the last couple of years... and the astrophotography's quality differences are palpable across the array of options.
The ability to tune certain variants is enough to make a night and day difference.
Black level. Shasta. Shutter speed/time. Total exposure length. Noise models. Hdr type/interface and versions. Frame numbers. Custom libraries. And the list goes on and on.
My favorite version is MWP 8.4, latest update.
The highly tuned astro pics are just breath taking.
Something that can not be said of the factory Google camera app.. even the 8.7.xx
Back in the day, before 8.x's came out... cstark27's gcam was as good as it gets. PX4.3 specifically. Using a magisk module for ultra long exposure times.. it literally produced some of the best pics I've ever seen in astrophotography mode. Exposure times of 9 minutes were possible. The only problem was that if clouds appeared in the frame, it created a painted photo. 9 minutes is a longgggg time.. lots of stuff could move around. I clouding the stars.
Today, I'd put MWP up against any other mod. And I highly recommend it.
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Ohhh but yes there is.
I've used 40+ versions of gcam mods in the last couple of years... and the astrophotography's quality differences are palpable across the array of options.
The ability to tune certain variants is enough to make a night and day difference.
Black level. Shasta. Shutter speed/time. Total exposure length. Noise models. Hdr type/interface and versions. Frame numbers. Custom libraries. And the list goes on and on.
My favorite version is MWP 8.4, latest update.
The highly tuned astro pics are just breath taking.
Something that can not be said of the factory Google camera app.. even the 8.7.xx
Back in the day, before 8.x's came out... cstark27's gcam was as good as it gets. PX4.3 specifically. Using a magisk module for ultra long exposure times.. it literally produced some of the best pics I've ever seen in astrophotography mode. Exposure times of 9 minutes were possible. The only problem was that if clouds appeared in the frame, it created a painted photo. 9 minutes is a longgggg time.. lots of stuff could move around. I clouding the stars.
Today, I'd put MWP up against any other mod. And I highly recommend it.
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So I posted that comment in August, I will say that I discovered a comment somewhere on this site (posted a screenshot in a chat, I can't find the link ATM) that sent me to dig up the latest stuff from MWP and stuff that worked on 8.4+ on the P6 Pro, (I am not rooted)
I take back what I said at the time
Thx for info
does Asus rog 6 pro compete with the s22 ultra or iphone 13 pro max ?
Nowhere near.
It's definitely a league below, particularly in low light & video quality. A solid B- compared to the A-listers.
It's okay to good, for general social media requirements/ daytime photography.
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does Asus rog 6 pro compete with the s22 ultra or iphone 13 pro max ?
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I looked a lot of review, the right hardware is there, the main problem is the camera software i will try with gcam apk and/or with some other camera application from Google store. Cameras software is the only weak point of this phone
Nope. You don't buy ROG devices if camera quality is a big thing for you. It does the job - that's it.
Try this gcam from BSG and my config file. Tell me what you think. Cheers.
as mentioned by some, the hardware is there but software is bad, even with gcam the results are poor due to bad API implementation.
6D ultimate here - inconsistent performance. sometimes it can be ok, sometimes it's crap.
imprecise blurring for portraits
lacks detail
inconsistent exposure
generally favours day light, and poor with low light
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6D ultimate here - inconsistent performance. sometimes it can be ok, sometimes it's crap.
imprecise blurring for portraits
lacks detail
inconsistent exposure
generally favours day light, and poor with low light
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Snapdragon even worse. Suffers from the exact same issues, however its just worse. It's generally accepted that the camera software is beta at best.
I'd love to see a full proper gcam port done for this phone
This whole phone is obsolete at its price. Everyone knew SD8 Gen 2 is coming shortly after the ROG 6, now it is here and every new phone out there will now smash this gaming phone AND offer a twice as good camera performance at a lower price.
Latoc said:
Try this gcam from BSG and my config file. Tell me what you think. Cheers.
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Thanks a lot for sharing these files.
Does the GCam package automatically replace the standard camera app?
Do you like the improvements?
As others, I believe the hardware itself should be just fine (not sure about the lenses, though) but the software is letting the phone down regarding IQ out of the box.
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Thanks a lot for sharing these files.
Does the GCam package automatically replace the standard camera app?
Do you like the improvements?
As others, I believe the hardware itself should be just fine (not sure about the lenses, though) but the software is letting the phone down regarding IQ out of the box.
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Hi, it does not replace the stock app, it is just another app like any other app. And yes, the improvements are there, for sure. Try it !
Any update app or config?
Latoc said:
Hi, it does not replace the stock app, it is just another app like any other app. And yes, the improvements are there, for sure. Try it !
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Thanks, will do!