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Hi everyone!
This is my review of the MAGICSIM DUAL SIMCARD Adaptor for Samsung Galaxy NOTE (my current Phone) and SAMSUNG Galaxy S2 (Previous Phone).
As someone who has used and currently use the MAGICSIM Dual Sim Adaptor for the Samsung Galaxy Note/Galaxy S2, I think I have enough information/experience to help you all make your purchasing decision.
First of all please note that unlike some other Dual Sim Adaptors, both the CUT and NON-CUT versions of MAGICSIM are 3G Sim card standard compliant. Also be aware that only one sim card slot operates on 3G frequencies (SLOT 1 on NON-CUT VERSION and SLOT 2 on CUT VERSION). The adaptor is controlled using a Dual-Sim STK (Sim Toolkit) application that gets automatically installed on your phone.
IMPORTANT: This is a one Sim Card Active At a Time Device so ONLY ONE SIM CARD WILL BE ACTIVE AT A TIME. You will have to use the application to switch sim cards at desired times or using the auto scheduler in the application. THIS IS NOT A DUAL STANDBY ADAPTOR.
Lets go though each one at a time;
-MAGIC SIM 3G DUAL SIM NON-CUT VERSION 28th GENERATION: I used this for about 3 months. At the outset I can state that this is the most fragile/risky version to use especially if you are someone that likes to root/hack you name it with your phone (like me). My reasons are simple. This adaptor's circuitry is very fragile and once it is placed in the simcard slot make sure that it is folded in such a way that you would never have to refold or rearrange the second sim's tray position behind the battery cover. Messing up with this too often will render the device useless and you will have to simply buy a new one. Furthermore, this adaptor's SimCard 1 Slot is a circuity driven plate that goes into your phone's sim slot (Samsung GNOTE/S2) and your 1st Simcard (3G) is inserted on to the top of the plate. Do not attempt to push both the simcard and plate together into the slot, you might damage the adaptor's plate. Also taking simcard in and out too often causes the plate ending to get damaged together with the circuitry on it. So be warned!
-MAGIC SIM 3G DUAL SIM CUT VERSION 28th GENERATION: This is the version I have recently switched to following serious concerns I had with the NON-CUT VERSION. Whilst at first it may sound really risky to use this version because your simcards have to be cut to a size smaller than the current micro-sim standard, the process itself is very easy and the content of the adaptor package has everything you need to resize your simcards to the correct size. You have two templates included with the adaptor too. TIP: If you don't already have the large size sim card (i.e. only have a micro sim like the one used in IPants or Xperia S or some of the new phones then simply place your simcard into a tray that resizes your sim to a normal size sim and stick the template sticker on the metal side and take the tray out. After tha simply cut your sim card by following the cut lines on the template. Once the cutting is done simply place the simcards into the adaptor trays and slide the cover and insert/place into your device's sim tray/slot. Whilst this option is a delicate option, it is nonetheless the best out there in my opinion because you no longer have to risk permanently damaging your adaptor. Don't forget in addition to templates for cutting/resizing your simcards, you also get two conversion trays to convert your cut sim cards to normal size simcards so that you can use your simcards on another phone that is not compatible with the adaptor or in your emergency use phone in case your Samsung GNOTE/S2 needs to be sent for servicing etc...
WHERE AND WHICH ONE TO BUY? Undoubtedly this is the most important question with there being lots of adaptors on Ebay and through retailers. I would strongly advise that you buy the MAGICSIM 28th Generation Version only and either through your established retailer or directly from: magic-sim.com. I bought my one from here and this is a very reputable, quick and professional seller. They are also listed on Ebay I think. SIMORE is another company that offers such an option but I think this version is the best and cheapest option compared to SIMORE offering. There are cheaper adaptors on sale online but make sure you know what you are buying because one of the sim slots included on this adaptor is fully 3G compliant, which means your 3G simcard will fully function if you want to make use of your data package ( I do!). Lastly on to the question of which MAGICSIM adaptor to buy. I have used both and will STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE CUT VERSION. If you are on this forum there is a greater chance that you are all addicted to playing around with your precious Samsung NOTE/S2 devices and the NON-CUT version is not a reliable long term solution for the reasons stated above. Whereas the CUT VERSION, after the initial cutting process will not affect the way use use/abuse your Samsung GNOTE/S2 as the simcard slot is not tampered/used/abused in any way or shape. Finally to ensure better compatibility (it is not the fault of the MAGICSIM) make sure that your simcard is of one of the modern types as very old type simcards with really big metal parts may not work (if you notice that yours is not working don't panic ask your network/cellular provider to replace your simcard as they will most likely send you a modern version considering the times we live in). Hope you all enjoyed this reading. Take care.
does this mean that you can receive call from 2 different networks at the same time? meaning both cards are active?
jeremy.chan said:
does this mean that you can receive call from 2 different networks at the same time? meaning both cards are active?
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In response, as stated in my review only one simcard is active at a time. So if you want to receive calls from one simcard whilst using the other, make sure you have call forwarding/call divert enabled on the other simcard so that when one is not active, call from the non active simcard are diverted/forwarded to active simcard. Once again do note that both simcards don't work simultaneously.
I've looked at the web site for these and have been tempted, but your review is well written and helped me decide on the cut version (I was leaning toward uncut). Thanks!
Thanks fore the review! I went ahead and purchased a 28th Gen cut version and it works works brilliantly. I now have my personal and work SIM in my G-Note!
Cheers
StalkS
Very interesting!
3G on only one of the SIMs is sort of the deal-breaker for me, though. I travel to Sweden a lot and would love to keep both SIMs in my phone at the same time so I don't lose either one between countries, and I always buy phones with 850MHz and 2100MHz 3G radios so I can have 3G data everywhere.
On Amazon I found a "HyperCard 3G" (while looking for a Magic SIM) and a reviewer says that they get 3G on both SIMs for that one.
Thanks fore the nice review! i'm gonna try it !
if I understand you can not receive emails from both at the same time?
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km2783 said:
Very interesting!
3G on only one of the SIMs is sort of the deal-breaker for me, though. I travel to Sweden a lot and would love to keep both SIMs in my phone at the same time so I don't lose either one between countries, and I always buy phones with 850MHz and 2100MHz 3G radios so I can have 3G data everywhere.
On Amazon I found a "HyperCard 3G" (while looking for a Magic SIM) and a reviewer says that they get 3G on both SIMs for that one.
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did you test it ?
jeremy.chan said:
does this mean that you can receive call from 2 different networks at the same time? meaning both cards are active?
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thanks
i had a moment of tl;dr there, i must admit
daveettitia said:
did you test it ?
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I don't have the HyperCard 3G, yet, but plan to get it. I won't be out of the country again until November, but I suppose I can swap my at&t SIM into either slot and see if it picks up 3G/HSDPA when active. Or borrow a friend's iPhone 4/4S SIM.
I can confirm that 3G data does work on either Sim but only on the current active Sim.
Hope this helps.
Anyone had any joy with this and ICS?
Cheers.
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Interesting..... Video
MagicSIM works perfect on my SGS2 (with GB 2.3.6) but only on the active SIM card. I have put it now also in my SGN (with ICS 4.0.3) - no problem - but you should buy a SGN version, because on the SGN is the SIM slot 90° rotated in comparison to the SGS2 , otherwise you must twist the ribbon cable if you close the battery cover (but it works too)
jscsltd said:
I can confirm that 3G data does work on either Sim but only on the current active Sim.
Hope this helps.
Anyone had any joy with this and ICS?
Cheers.
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Did you have to use the thin metal adaptor door or the normal one for the Note? Nice review
JHimmelbauer said:
but you should buy a SGN version, because on the SGN is the SIM slot 90° rotated in comparison to the SGS2
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Since you're living in Austria, like me, may I ask you where you've bought the MagicSIM?
Chest3r said:
Since you're living in Austria, like me, may I ask you where you've bought the MagicSIM?
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directly from www.magic-sim.com - the shipment needs about 10 days.
I'm currently in Florida on vacation, I use here the magicSIM adapter in combination with an A1 SIM and a US prepaid SIM from RedPocket mobile (http://goredpocket.com) - buyed from http://www.prepaidsimcard.org (this place is a little bit expensive - I think to buy at RedPocket directly would be cheeper)
I'm looking forward to that day when both Sim will work at the same time...
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AWFRONT said:
In response, as stated in my review only one simcard is active at a time. So if you want to receive calls from one simcard whilst using the other, make sure you have call forwarding/call divert enabled on the other simcard so that when one is not active, call from the non active simcard are diverted/forwarded to active simcard. Once again do note that both simcards don't work simultaneously.
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You can receive call on both sim when active sim 2.
If active sim 1, only receive call on sim 1.
If active sim 2, receive call on sim 1 and 2.
kentel said:
You can receive call on both sim when active sim 2.
If active sim 1, only receive call on sim 1.
If active sim 2, receive call on sim 1 and 2.
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really? Wonder if I had a data only sim as sim 2 and sim 2 was active, would a call to sim 1 ring the phone and I could answer it? I'm interested in trying this.
Can anyone confirm if by removing a MagicSim adaptor has any chance of causing damage to the sim housing on the Galaxy Note?
no - removing is not a problem for the SIM slot
Note_E said:
Can anyone confirm if by removing a MagicSim adaptor has any chance of causing damage to the sim housing on the Galaxy Note?
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So I will be getting the HTC One. I'm currently using an iPhone 5, and I want to be able to switch between the 2.
I know the iPhone 5 uses nano sim, and the HTC One uses micro sim, so I will have to buy an adapter.
However, will it even be possible to just switch sims, seeing as Verizon is CDMA?
Thanks!
I'm doing this same thing with my S4. You will have a SIM in the iPhone and a SIM in the HTC One.
You'll need to go onto the website and swap the active device on the line (takes like 5 mins, super easy).
Even if you could just drop the iPhone SIM into the HTC One (you can not), you'd still have to set the IMEI for the device to be the active device.
This is how they track data usage etc. Activation takes up to 15 minutes, but I noticed in my area in socal it took only 2 minutes.
There is no additional cost to swap or use a different device. Did this myself this morning, rep assured there is no charge but they do present a summary of what the line (your phone number) costs monthly. Not to be confused with the IMEI and SIM numbers (for which there is NO cost to swap, add, etc).
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So I will be getting the HTC One. I'm currently using an iPhone 5, and I want to be able to switch between the 2.
I know the iPhone 5 uses nano sim, and the HTC One uses micro sim, so I will have to buy an adapter.
However, will it even be possible to just switch sims, seeing as Verizon is CDMA?
Thanks!
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aubreyjohnson said:
I'm doing this same thing with my S4. You will have a SIM in the iPhone and a SIM in the HTC One.
You'll need to go onto the website and swap the active device on the line (takes like 5 mins, super easy).
Even if you could just drop the iPhone SIM into the HTC One (you can not), you'd still have to set the IMEI for the device to be the active device.
This is how they track data usage etc. Activation takes up to 15 minutes, but I noticed in my area in socal it took only 2 minutes.
There is no additional cost to swap or use a different device. Did this myself this morning, rep assured there is no charge but they do present a summary of what the line (your phone number) costs monthly. Not to be confused with the IMEI and SIM numbers (for which there is NO cost to swap, add, etc).
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I've swapped my sim between at least 20 devices without ever needing to change anything on the verizon web page. The only time I have ever had to have any interaction with Verizon is when going from a nano to micro sim. However I've cut three micro sims to fit into iPhones without issue.
aubreyjohnson said:
I'm doing this same thing with my S4. You will have a SIM in the iPhone and a SIM in the HTC One.
You'll need to go onto the website and swap the active device on the line (takes like 5 mins, super easy).
Even if you could just drop the iPhone SIM into the HTC One (you can not), you'd still have to set the IMEI for the device to be the active device.
This is how they track data usage etc. Activation takes up to 15 minutes, but I noticed in my area in socal it took only 2 minutes.
There is no additional cost to swap or use a different device. Did this myself this morning, rep assured there is no charge but they do present a summary of what the line (your phone number) costs monthly. Not to be confused with the IMEI and SIM numbers (for which there is NO cost to swap, add, etc).
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That's way too complicated. Just buy a $5 sim adapter off Amazon and voila. I switch between my s4 and iPhone on a weekly basis and have never had to call verizon or use the website.
With sim adapter I've been using the Same sim and switching between my galaxy s4, iPhone 5, bb Z10, and lumia 928.
Ok, so it looks like there are a couple different options, and now at least I know it's definitely possible to do easily.
Thanks for the replies everyone, you're awesome!
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**EDIT** Ha! Snap, 600th post. Sorry, had to, I got excited for a second.
I went by a Verizon store today to purchase an HTC One. At the store, there was a sticker on the HTC One that said "NFC SIM required to activate". The sales person didn't know if my nano sim / adapter would work at all in the HTC One. We couldn't even test it, because he said I'd be charged a $35 restocking fee if it didn't work, and if I decided not to purchase... I decided not to take the risk.
Has anyone actually tried moving an iPhone 5 nano sim to an HTC One (using an adapter)?
Can an active nano sim (non-NFC sim) be used / moved a new HTC One, or is a NFC sim really required to activate??
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I went by a Verizon store today to purchase an HTC One. At the store, there was a sticker on the HTC One that said "NFC SIM required to activate". The sales person didn't know if my nano sim / adapter would work at all in the HTC One. We couldn't even test it, because he said I'd be charged a $35 restocking fee if it didn't work, and if I decided not to purchase... I decided not to take the risk.
Has anyone actually tried moving an iPhone 5 nano sim to an HTC One (using an adapter)?
Can an active nano sim (non-NFC sim) be used / moved a new HTC One, or is a NFC sim really required to activate??
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I have not and I don't know the answer to your last question, however I've decided I'm just going to keep the nano sim in the iPhone and keep a sim in the htc one and when I want to switch I'll just go to VZW website and switch phones, like the first answer said. It's real simple so for me it's no big deal. I'd rather not put the wear and tear on the sim and sim tray.
I switch between my HTC One, SG3, and SG4 but they all have same size SIM.
I heard adapters can cause issues
gotta love how apple does everything different until it comes to software that was in Android light years before iOS
how do I tell if my SIM is NFC?
I am still using my SIM card I got when I bought Samsung s3
The iPhone Sim works in the One.
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The iPhone Sim works in the One.
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how do you figure???
iphone takes a nano sim card. much smaller
either need adapter, or ruin his sim and cut it to fit the iphone and then no way to get it to work on HTC One.
correct me please if I am wrong.
andybones said:
how do you figure???
iphone takes a nano sim card. much smaller
either need adapter, or ruin his sim and cut it to fit the iphone and then no way to get it to work on HTC One.
correct me please if I am wrong.
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That's what the OP inquired about. With an adapter it will work. Sorry if I confused.
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dscottjr81 said:
That's what the OP inquired about. With an adapter it will work. Sorry if I confused.
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ohh, no need to apologize, I am sorry as well. I understand your post now.
Then why would Verizon put a giant sticker on the HTC One box, proclaiming an NFC sim was required? Placing my iPhone sim in the One (with adapter) will just work? Hopefully this is the case.
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Then why would Verizon put a giant sticker on the HTC One box, proclaiming an NFC sim was required? Placing my iPhone sim in the One (with adapter) will just work? Hopefully this is the case.
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nfc sim is only required if you want to use verizons ****ty isis wallet service which no one uses.. google wallet ftw
josh995 said:
I have not and I don't know the answer to your last question, however I've decided I'm just going to keep the nano sim in the iPhone and keep a sim in the htc one and when I want to switch I'll just go to VZW website and switch phones, like the first answer said. It's real simple so for me it's no big deal. I'd rather not put the wear and tear on the sim and sim tray.
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This will not work. As soon as you activate the One VZ will "burn" your i5 sim. Same thing going the other direction. VZ will not allow you to have two (2) working sim cards.
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...I've decided I'm just going to keep the nano sim in the iPhone and keep a sim in the htc one and when I want to switch I'll just go to VZW website and switch phones, like the first answer said. It's real simple so for me it's no big deal. I'd rather not put the wear and tear on the sim and sim tray.
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Verizon used to disable a SIM after its been used... i.e. SIM A in phone, switch to SIM B, SIM A is no longer usable. So your plan might now work.
Instead, you'll likely have to activate the Nano SIM for the iPhone 5, then use an adapter when moving your iPhone 5 SIM to another phone...
Two SIM adapter options are -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009B9YWB4/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 or -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ABEA7E/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (i've ordered each of those, so I know they work ).
i literally just reactivated my nano sim, stuck it in my iPhone to make sure it worked, and then put it into my One using an adapter. works fine
I guess you can call Verizon and have them send you a sim card.
.. but only one lol
got one coming. just in case ever need one
they send for free and doen't charge for the SIM if anyone every wants to save themselves a trip to the VZW store
I had them send NFC SIM, didn't realize i dont need it but oh well.
she actually sent me two because their systems were slow and she never asked my address and I said ur sending it to my appt right, and shes like.. no.
she was very nice, apologized for not asking, and instead said f it and said ill just send one to you and one to the original order cos their computers weer sucking lol
Hi, apologies for starting a new thread on this. I've asked the questions but can't get a definitive answer so hoping this will help me and other prospective buyers.
I have 2 options. Buy from wondamobile and get the HK version (TGY csc) or buy from T-dimension and get the Taiwan version (BRI csc)
Both are dual sim 128gb. However I want to be able to use both an sd card and a 5g sim. I'm seeing reports that even after the latest firmware update, you can only get 5g if you put the sim in sim slot 2. Is that true because I wouldn't get it if I can't add an sd card as 128gb is nowhere enough space and I don't like saving my pics to the cloud and my WhatsApp media folder just grows and grows as I like to keep old stuff.
So really:
1) can I use both sim slot and sd card and still get 5g here in the UK (EE). I've checked and the 5g band n78 is what ee use so it will pick up the 5g signal
2) does it matter which version I get, hk or taiwan?
3) even though wondamobile say volte and WiFi calling won't work, I think with the latest update they do work. Is that right?
4) is t-dimension OK to buy from?
Thanks!
So I bought from t-dimensions via eBay (G9860). They are based in HK so u assumed I would get the HK version, however I got the BRI version. As people have said in other threads, there's no option to select 5g on this model as there is no 5g in Taiwan yet.
I changed the CSC from BRI to TGY using Sankey using a guide on this forum - was relatively simple process and didn't wipe my phone - I can now select 5g for both sim 1 and sim 2 - whether I can actually get 5g I don't know. While passing through a 5g area, I didn't catch a 5g reception, only 4g plus (I'm on a Vodafone 5g tariff) so I'm not entirely sure. My Vodafone SIM was in sim 2 tray.
Also both Google pay and Samsung pay work. For Samsung pay, when signing up you have some Chinese writing, but after that it's all English and you can add UK cards to your account. You will see a Chinese banner with HK ads thou.
WiFi calling works for me, volte doesn't appear to despite it being selected.
Not really answered your questions, but hopefully my experience is helpful
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So I bought from t-dimensions via eBay (G9860). They are based in HK so u assumed I would get the HK version, however I got the BRI version. As people have said in other threads, there's no option to select 5g on this model as there is no 5g in Taiwan yet.
I changed the CSC from BRI to TGY using Sankey using a guide on this forum - was relatively simple process and didn't wipe my phone - I can now select 5g for both sim 1 and sim 2 - whether I can actually get 5g I don't know. While passing through a 5g area, I didn't catch a 5g reception, only 4g plus (I'm on a Vodafone 5g tariff) so I'm not entirely sure. My Vodafone SIM was in sim 2 tray.
Also both Google pay and Samsung pay work. For Samsung pay, when signing up you have some Chinese writing, but after that it's all English and you can add UK cards to your account. You will see a Chinese banner with HK ads thou.
WiFi calling works for me, volte doesn't appear to despite it being selected.
Not really answered your questions, but hopefully my experience is helpful
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That helps a lot! How was your experience with t-dimension in terms of delivery. I heard they also ask for ID which I'm hesitant to send to China lol.
Interesting about the 5g too. I'll need another person to share their experience in relation to it working. I know I read one guy on here say it only works in sim 2, but they never mentioned if the option was also there for sim slot 1 and that they selected it but didn't pick up anything. 5g can be dodgy so who knows.
Samsung pay and Google pay I don't use anyway so fine with that not working. I think the same guy mentioned volte worked on ee... Again I dunno which sim slot or if it matters, or if you need a base hk model like his. Is there any reason why you have yours in sim 2 by default?
So they didn't ask me for any ID - the only issue I had was that I ordered the cosmic black version and they messaged via eBay that they don't have it in stock and would I like either grey or white instead. I asked how long for the black and was advised they don't know so if I want black they would rather refund than hold the order... I decided to go for white - actually glad as it looks quite nice and not had a white phone before. It took a week to arrive - they used DPD. No tracking available until in the UK which got me abit worried, but as soon as it showed up in Manchester, DPD delivered it the next day. Btw I didn't have any customs or tax charges either.
From what I read on trustpilot it's sounded like they only asked for ID if your delivery address was different to your PayPal verified address. Again, I ordered via ebay and PayPal so maybe that's why I didn't get asked for ID.
My primary number is in sim 1 and sim 2 had my simo which I use for data. No other particular reason for that order, that's just how I had it in my last phone (OnePlus 5t).
Only other thing to add is that if 5g is selected for sim 2 and then try and select it in sim 1 I get the message ' if you change sim 1 to 5g, sim 1 will be used for mobile data' and then sim 2 changes to 4g - so you can only have 5g selected for either sim 1 or sim 2, not both at the same time.
relax24 said:
Hi, apologies for starting a new thread on this. I've asked the questions but can't get a definitive answer so hoping this will help me and other prospective buyers.
I have 2 options. Buy from wondamobile and get the HK version (TGY csc) or buy from T-dimension and get the Taiwan version (BRI csc)
Both are dual sim 128gb. However I want to be able to use both an sd card and a 5g sim. I'm seeing reports that even after the latest firmware update, you can only get 5g if you put the sim in sim slot 2. Is that true because I wouldn't get it if I can't add an sd card as 128gb is nowhere enough space and I don't like saving my pics to the cloud and my WhatsApp media folder just grows and grows as I like to keep old stuff.
So really:
1) can I use both sim slot and sd card and still get 5g here in the UK (EE). I've checked and the 5g band n78 is what ee use so it will pick up the 5g signal
2) does it matter which version I get, hk or taiwan?
3) even though wondamobile say volte and WiFi calling won't work, I think with the latest update they do work. Is that right?
4) is t-dimension OK to buy from?
Thanks!
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Any reason those two shops are your only options?
Those are 2 I've seen mentioned by people. There's a user on ebay also selling for much cheaper than either but I'm not sure how safe it is buying from ebay
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So they didn't ask me for any ID - the only issue I had was that I ordered the cosmic black version and they messaged via eBay that they don't have it in stock and would I like either grey or white instead. I asked how long for the black and was advised they don't know so if I want black they would rather refund than hold the order... I decided to go for white - actually glad as it looks quite nice and not had a white phone before. It took a week to arrive - they used DPD. No tracking available until in the UK which got me abit worried, but as soon as it showed up in Manchester, DPD delivered it the next day. Btw I didn't have any customs or tax charges either.
From what I read on trustpilot it's sounded like they only asked for ID if your delivery address was different to your PayPal verified address. Again, I ordered via ebay and PayPal so maybe that's why I didn't get asked for ID.
My primary number is in sim 1 and sim 2 had my simo which I use for data. No other particular reason for that order, that's just how I had it in my last phone (OnePlus 5t).
Only other thing to add is that if 5g is selected for sim 2 and then try and select it in sim 1 I get the message ' if you change sim 1 to 5g, sim 1 will be used for mobile data' and then sim 2 changes to 4g - so you can only have 5g selected for either sim 1 or sim 2, not both at the same time.
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Appreciate the detailed reply! Oddly enough I can't even find t-dimension on UK ebay. I have found a random seller called bestbuy263 or something selling for £630
Re the sim 1 sim 2 stuff, I would only have 1 sim as I need sim 2 for the micro sd
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Those are 2 I've seen mentioned by people. There's a user on ebay also selling for much cheaper than either but I'm not sure how safe it is buying from ebay
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Why not buy from a reputable store like The Carphone Warehouse?
Then you get a warranty, and know it will work on 5G
NO way would I buy from some foreign website or ebay for something that expensive, ebay you will lose your money if it breaks, and quite possibly with those online sites too, the wondamobile one already says they are unsealed because they had to activate them before shipping, I wouldn't be accepting a £1k device that had already been used / possibly refurbished, possibly IMEI stolen / blocked
Spend the little extra and buy from the UK, and not ebay/amazon, buy it new from a good rep store
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Why not buy from a reputable store like The Carphone Warehouse?
Then you get a warranty, and know it will work on 5G
NO way would I buy from some foreign website or ebay for something that expensive, ebay you will lose your money if it breaks, and quite possibly with those online sites too, the wondamobile one already says they are unsealed because they had to activate them before shipping, I wouldn't be accepting a £1k device that had already been used / possibly refurbished, possibly IMEI stolen / blocked
Spend the little extra and buy from the UK, and not ebay/amazon, buy it new from a good rep store
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Because carphone warehouse is a UK company and only sells the UK version I.e exynos variant. And I don't want the exynos because they've borked it
relax24 said:
Appreciate the detailed reply! Oddly enough I can't even find t-dimension on UK ebay. I have found a random seller called bestbuy263 or something selling for £630
Re the sim 1 sim 2 stuff, I would only have 1 sim as I need sim 2 for the micro sd
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So the eBay trader ID they used is 'skytrade19' but had all the blurb of t-dimensions. Also I got emailed a t-dimensions invoice afterwards with 'skytrade19' listed as sales agent. The item id was 153876284501 - I can see it in my transaction history, but looks like the listing has ended.
T-dimensions does have a store on eBay.com.au - item id 392790145906 will bring up the listing for the g9860 in white. Converting the price from AUD to GBP works about about £660. I'd message them and ask if they are willing to list on eBay UK if your keen on buying from them on eBay.
I haven't bought like this before but wanted the Snapdragon model like you. I liked the idea of ebay and PayPal protection together so took the gamble and bought it. I used PayPal credit as well so should have section 75 protection for my purchase (which I wouldn't have if I used PayPal with a credit card) - see mse forum for details on the section 75 stuff.
Anyway it worked out for me overall, that's all I can say.
relax24 said:
Because carphone warehouse is a UK company and only sells the UK version I.e exynos variant. And I don't want the exynos because they've borked it
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No they haven't, mine is the Exynos version and it is fine, this last update fixed the only issue I had with it and that was a delay taking selfie photos with the front facing cam, now it's instant
I've been talking to a guy who exchanged his Exynos S20U for the Snapdragon version and he says the only improvement is it doesn't get as hot during game-play, but videos and selfie photos are worse
Don't listen to the SD owners hating on the Exynos, and likewise vice versa, and if I was going to import a SD model from anywhere it would be the US, not Asia
The last update that was released for BRI with July patch has also activated 5G so there is no need to change csc to TGY if it was originally BRI.
west2cool said:
The last update that was released for BRI with July patch has also activated 5G so there is no need to change csc to TGY if it was originally BRI.
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Will it work in sim slot 1 though...
relax24 said:
Will it work in sim slot 1 though...
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Just need someone to check
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Just need someone to check
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Oh I thought you had a Taiwan model g9880 ultra as opposed to plus
relax24 said:
Oh I thought you had a Taiwan model g9880 ultra as opposed to plus
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Both.
relax24 said:
Oh I thought you had a Taiwan model g9880 ultra as opposed to plus
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Sent the G9880 back as didn't like the size and got G9860 in white.
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Sent the G9880 back as didn't like the size and got G9860 in white.
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Oh so can you not check yourself if 5g works on sim 1 slot is what I mean? Or am I missing something?
relax24 said:
Oh so can you not check yourself is what I mean? Or am I missing something?
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Would involve driving 30 min.
Ahhh that makes sense lol!
My phone shipped from Amazon today and due Monday. Does anyone know if the US unlocked variant shipp with both sims (nano and eSiM) active? Need dual SIMs for work so hoping it does.
TGUY25 said:
My phone shipped from Amazon today and due Monday. Does anyone know if the US unlocked variant shipp with both sims (nano and eSiM) active? Need dual SIMs for work so hoping it does.
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I checked Motorola's site earlier today, in the specs section, down in the fine print notes, it states Dual-Sim capabilities will be introduced at a later date & may vary depending on carrier model.
At the minimum, sounds like you may have to wait for a software update to enable Dual-Sim capabilities.
Ordered mine from Motorola yesterday and hoping it comes with dual standby. However, I checked out a T-Mobile version yesterday and although it allowed to hot-swap swap from Nano to eSIM in the software it only had one IMEI number... Hoping the unlocked version maybe different but no software update can alter the missing IMEI. Fingers crossed but honestly not hopeful.
Mine is on the UPS truck for delivery this afternoon (unlocked version bought on Amazon) - earlier than expected so I will be able to report back after I have it. I'd read the info on the motorola website mentioned above and was hoping to get a definitive answer.
I got my unlocked Razr 5G (from Amazon) today. Box only shows 1 IMEI. Pretty sweet device - just working on setup but I can report that 1) both eSIM and the Nano SIM work BUT (and this is a really big BUT), only one can be active at a time. I started with my AT&T nano SIM in the device and it works great. I then switched to the eSIM and added my UK eSIM plan to the phone.
I was then able to go back & forth between the SIMs using the switch SIM menu option and it worked fine but only one can be Active at a time so when AT&T is active, no calls, etc on UK eSIM and vice-versa.
So, while it is technically a dual SIM phone, it does not behave as you would expect (or prefer) for a true dual active-dual sim phone. Given the box only shows 1 IMEI i'm doubtful the phone will ever be dual standby (which would require 2 IMEI's) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to use this as a daily driver or not.
Mine is the US version - nXT2071-3 - hopefully someone in the UK or elsewhere with a different model/firmware can confirm if another version is true dual SIM.
TGUY25 said:
I got my unlocked Razr 5G (from Amazon) today. Box only shows 1 IMEI. Pretty sweet device - just working on setup but I can report that 1) both eSIM and the Nano SIM work BUT (and this is a really big BUT), only one can be active at a time. I started with my AT&T nano SIM in the device and it works great. I then switched to the eSIM and added my UK eSIM plan to the phone.
I was then able to go back & forth between the SIMs using the switch SIM menu option and it worked fine but only one can be Active at a time so when AT&T is active, no calls, etc on UK eSIM and vice-versa.
So, while it is technically a dual SIM phone, it does not behave as you would expect (or prefer) for a true dual active-dual sim phone. Given the box only shows 1 IMEI i'm doubtful the phone will ever be dual standby (which would require 2 IMEI's) so I'm not sure if I'll be able to use this as a daily driver or not.
Mine is the US version - nXT2071-3 - hopefully someone in the UK or elsewhere with a different model/firmware can confirm if another version is true dual SIM.
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But... i have dual Sim smartphone, and it uses 2 nano-sims. I have them both activated and so the phone shows the two IMEI (from both carrier sims). My previous non chinese smartphone was an iPhone 11 and it had esim and a sim slot. So I used the first e-sim with my Canadian carrier and the sim card slot with my other canadian carrier. I could use both phone numbers on the same device but if one phone number rang on the phone I could not receive an inbound call on the second number.
Is that not how the Razr 5G works?
US variant (XT2071-3) that I got does not work like an iphone 11 (which i what I have now and,like you have one carrier using nano sim and another using eSIM) and both can send/receive calls and text - though like you said not at once- and it can do that because it has 2 unique IMEI and which allows it to register on 2 different networks. Moto XT2071-3 only have 1 IMEI - can only have 1 number on at a time and when one is on, the other is off - doesn't receive calls/texts when off.
EU variant XT2071-4 is supposed to come with 2 IMEI to work like your iphone 11 - both sims can be on and get calls/text. Very few have been shipped. i have one on order and will confirm when i get it. if that one works, i will keep it. The one i got from AMAZON is going to be returned since I can't use it.
I would guess that Dual SIM Dual Standby for 5G is coming with Android 11. It was the case with the OnePlus phones and perhaps that feature isn't available with Android 10. Are there any Dual SIM 5G phones with Android 10? This article helped explain the situation (along with the comments below) Android Authority Dual SIM 5G phones
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I would guess that Dual SIM Dual Standby for 5G is coming with Android 11.
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Hopefully the wait for 11 isn't too long
I got a UK version XT2071-4 and can report it is a true dual sim phone. Box shows dual SIM’s and I was able to load my US ATT eSIM and my Starhub nano sim on the phone and it works. You can’t use 5G in dual sim mode - probably something about the modem but it works great in 4G LTE with both sims. The global version is missing a few US specific bands though, running on ATT, not missed very much. So far so good. While the build quality isn’t as good (more plastic) I like the smaller form factor over the z-flip and the close to vanilla Android is nice. Happy camper now with full dual sim model - the us model I got from Amazon is going back. Now I just need a decent case...
Just need to confirm that Esim is enabled in the USA at launch. The fold 3 fiasco with Esim has me doubting, so need to confirm prior to ordering
I think it's safe to say yes as the S22 Ultra worked out of the box.
It BETTER be FFS!
Samsung has a mixed bag on this and the last fold did not work dual sim
They announced esim is available
Went to Best buy today to play with one. Flip 4 had Sim manager in the connections settings. Fold 4 did not. Guess will try a different best buy lol
zapote21 said:
Went to Best buy today to play with one. Flip 4 had Sim manager in the connections settings. Fold 4 did not. Guess will try a different best buy lol
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I think this may be carrier specific.
My Flip3 that I got from Verzion in June did NOT have sim manager. I flashed an unlocked ROM and got it.
If it doesn't have it out of the box (unlocked), that is going to make some heads roll, I will tell you that.
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I think it's safe to say yes as the S22 Ultra worked out of the box.
It BETTER be FFS!
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Fold 3 didnt.
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Fold 3 didnt.
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Yes and neither did the S21 Ultra and Flip 3.
At this point in the game I would be very surprised if any Samsung flagship didn't have it out of the box.
Well, pre ordered today. Lets hope...lol
I went on BestBuy's site, and had a chat with a 'geek' named Olivia. They sell the TMO locked version ( I bought the unlocked, but plan to have TMO SIM in it, so my bet it will boot into a TMO environment like the locked ones). As per very SPECIFIC questions I was told that the Fold 4 supports eSIM. I asked in three ways , and 2 out of the three questions were , in short. a 'YES' , the fold 4 US version under TMO will support eSIM to cover non TMO USA territories. The third question, if she can tell me if the menu under setting->connections have a SIM manager menu, was ignored.
Did I learn something new? NO. Do I know eSIM is supported? NOT SURE. I guess we will know around August 24th to 26th when the pre-orders from Samsung come in... Or maybe someone who got his AMAZON order maybe kind enough and share if the menu indeed exists..
My fear, before entering a TMO SIM, it will be there, and as soon as a TMO SIM will be entered, the menu will be gone... I have no doubt Samsung has the hardware. I will check the setting BEFORE I place the TMO SIM and will see...
Best Buy's chat support are either AI bots or 3rd world employees being paid $1/day. I wouldn't put any faith in them whatsoever. They're about as reliable as Samsung chat support.
Also beware in order to use embedded sim the device cannot be locked to a different carrier. For example if you have TMO and buy a device from them on EIP, it will be locked to them. It should work with two lines but not with Verizon or ATT. The only exception is if you pay in full and wait 45 days for them to approve an unlock request. Of course if paying cash it makes sense to buy unlocked in the first place. ;-)
Yeah, I am fully aware they know nothing of the devices they sell.. and I am well aware this is for fully purchased TMO devices. I did speak to a real person, and I did not get the answers I trust to be the truth.. I really hope SOMEONE who got his unlocked device from Amazon already will share his experience. With all the things I bought in my life at Best Buy, service and warranty by their 'Geek' squad was never something I paid for..
Man, I currently use eSim on my S21 that I am trading in. You guys got me nervous that i won't be able to setup my Fold 4 when i get it haha. I might need to order a TMO sim just in case lol.
Confirmed by TMO at a US store that the TMO version has Esim enabled. Saw it myself with a TMO sim inserted
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Confirmed by TMO at a US store that the TMO version has Esim enabled. Saw it myself with a TMO sim inserted
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Confirmed for T-Mobile i just enabled my Esim.
Yup. I did mine yesterday when I got my Fold
When I got mine yesterday, I had to insert the sim card from the Fold3, then go online to chat with a rep to get it activated. Tmobile device.
Wow, in the UK, all I did was 'Transfer e-Sim" on EE's site/app and plonk away it went after scanning the QR. My watch 4 to watch 5 e-sim swap however.....
Just want to clarify....
Esim is live for T-Mobile only..
Atnt straight talk and Verizon don't connect, they can't. I've been told by Samsung directly to wait for an update like the fold 3 for esim support to go live for them...
Came from a OnePlus 8 pro running atnt and Verizon and was slapped in the face when I found out this 0hones 1sim+1esim I was under the assumption the unlocked one was going to be dual sim..
So I'm trying to deal with Verizon through sim card for the time being. Verizon also doesn't have a slightest clue what my device is either, it read the 8 pro, now it just shows nothing in my account for a phone.